Defcon 21 - Stalking a City for Fun and Frivolity

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10 жыл бұрын

Brendan O'Connor
August 1st--4th, 2013
Rio Hotel & Casino • Las Vegas, Nevada

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@Bella_Rei 7 жыл бұрын

"When every script kiddie, sitting down in his basement, can stalk an entire city, maybe we'll see some improvement on this issue!" Me in basement watching a marathon of DefCon talks: O.o.... uh...

@glassed6852 7 жыл бұрын

ikr

@applezauc3 5 жыл бұрын

i dont get it

@CGoody564 5 жыл бұрын

@@TehvulGarcia he's saying anyone can do this with a little technical know how. He is not saying script kiddies could do it better. Script kiddies just use other people's exploits.

@hwhw4414 10 ай бұрын

I needed a familiar face. Or in my case, a familiar crowd.she walks in beauty like the night. Of cloudless climes and starry skies. The best of dark and bright. One shade the more, one ray the less. Had half impaired the nameless grace Which waves in every raven tress. Smiles that win and tints that glow .Softly lightens on her cheek, on her brow so soft so calm yet eloquent. Where thoughts serenely sweet express how pure how dear their dwelling place. A mind at peace with a below. A heart whose love is innocent. Dr... I have read your destruction of sennacherib we have some questions on the nature of the art.

@omegadroidzero 5 ай бұрын

@@hwhw4414 get sober

@Sevilou 5 жыл бұрын

Defcon is like TED on steroids, how did I not discover it until like few days ago.

@aromanstuff 10 жыл бұрын

What an awesome talk. This is what Defcon is all about.

@CGoody564 5 жыл бұрын

One if the best in the last 5 years; I watch it every few weeks lol

@zapfanzapfan 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, I didn't know Penn was a programmer :-)

@daled4191 2 жыл бұрын

Penn and tester

@drewalleman Жыл бұрын

@@daled4191 lmfaoo

@user-fg5hi5de1n 10 ай бұрын

That's not penn

@user-fg5hi5de1n 10 ай бұрын

It's Jonah hill's older brother

@duchessj7257 5 жыл бұрын

Watching in 2018. Still relevant. This speaker is awesome, well spoken and all about mentorship.

@thatgeezeruk 5 жыл бұрын

He is awesome, right?!!!

@2DEKAY 5 жыл бұрын

Watching in 2019. Still relevant sadly doesn't seem things will go the way they should according to this guys views...

@TzunSu 4 жыл бұрын

Except for Weev ending up as an open neo nazi and the webmaster for the daily stormer.

@agenericaccount3935 4 жыл бұрын

@@TzunSu Minor

@anthonyturo8372 Жыл бұрын

2022 reporting in.

@brianbeard7278 9 жыл бұрын

TY GOD A DECENT SPEAKER FOR ONCE.

@dergrammarfuhrer1901 7 жыл бұрын

Young Penn Jillette knows his shit.

@ImMimicute 7 жыл бұрын

10/10 would die laughing again

@officergregorystevens5765 7 жыл бұрын

First thought I had about this guy lol...

@michaelmcneil4168 7 жыл бұрын

> Penn Jillette knows his shit Does he know why they have to have the screen small as thumbnails? Are they hoping to save up electrons?

@OB-806 5 жыл бұрын

I barely understood a word of what this guy said, but he said it so well I watched the whole thing.

@MarkLawsonY3K 5 жыл бұрын

Education is the consideration of "other" ideas and especially when you have to look up every other word or so!!!

@Architector_4 5 жыл бұрын

+Mark Lawson Yeah, but you can't look up a word if you can't even hear a word!

@CGoody564 5 жыл бұрын

You don't need to understand the technical details; you just need to know that this is very easily possible by those with know-how. But it wouldn't take much research to know the technical details generally speaking

@Architector_4 5 жыл бұрын

I think we understood the OP saying that they barely understood a word differently. Josh, could you please clarify, do you mean that you don't know what these words mean, or that you didn't hear the words themselves because of questionable audio quality?

@CGoody564 5 жыл бұрын

@@Architector_4 pretty sure he meant that he didn't understand the technical details of the talk; the audio quality is quite clear compared to previous years. He wouldn't know he said it so well if he couldn't hear it...

@CGoody564 7 жыл бұрын

one of the best defcon talks in recent years

@psychocrysis2 10 жыл бұрын

Incidentally, weev got out of jail just five days ago, because they determined that the new jersey trial was bullshit.

@CGoody564 7 жыл бұрын

why's that

@michaelmcneil4168 7 жыл бұрын

psychocrysis2 Thanks for the chickenshit. Hanni Fakhoury, a staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, argued that accessing a publicly available website does not constitute unauthorized access to a computer system under the CFAA and that he shouldn’t have been charged in New Jersey.On Friday, the federal appeals court agreed that the venue for the case hadn’t been appropriate and ordered Auernheimer released from prison.He began serving in March 2013.

@maxczapski9275 7 жыл бұрын

What a brilliant and mature mind. Hats off.

@spacepirateivynova 7 жыл бұрын

8 gigs... wow... how far we've come in 3 years. It's kind of a bad thing in a way, though, as coders have a LOT more storage and memory available for extremely cheap nowadays and can just make a 10 dimensional array with a thousand variables, half of which never even get looked at :D

@EduardoGonzalez-bm1mk 4 жыл бұрын

Grim Dark End instead of a 1 dimension array with a search function.

@ejbully 3 жыл бұрын

Rendezvous node. Not meant to have excessive storage capacity. Meant to be efficient.

@resignator 6 жыл бұрын

Prob the best prepared and well spoken defcon speaker i have seen.

@SWonYT 4 жыл бұрын

One of the best talks I've seen in a long time. I hope more people work as hard as you to combat these problems. I hope I'm able to. Even if you can't, I hope your work will be continued and joined by many. As someone under 18 years old, you have inspired me greatly.

@Daddyfatclaps 8 жыл бұрын

thank you sound man for fixing that feedback/ringing in the beginning....fine work.

@donobobo8519 7 жыл бұрын

This presentation is well prepared !

@agenericaccount3935 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for thinking of Weev.

@PeteMcDonald 9 жыл бұрын

Well delivered and really interesting, good on you Brendon :D

@jaymolly2956 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@NamelessInteractions 10 жыл бұрын

awesome talk

@HackersOnBoard 4 жыл бұрын

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@AmarrIndustrial 9 жыл бұрын

“But Brendan” I was so ready for the fiber optics "joke" at this point.

@gurrillaz101 10 жыл бұрын

wow.. great speech from speaker

@thatgeezeruk 5 жыл бұрын

You're amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jacobmohrbutter2821 5 жыл бұрын

Great video

@MonkeyboyGoku 8 жыл бұрын

the podium is crying

@Millez 5 жыл бұрын

2013, wow

@nobleherring3059 3 жыл бұрын

Noticing the date on this video is a great way to fuck up your whole day

@jackfortey282 7 жыл бұрын

the more of these i watch the less safe i feel

@sixhundredandfive7123 3 жыл бұрын

The man referenced Tsar Bomba and Freakazoid...amazing.

@joker28666 Жыл бұрын

Watching this in 2022, with spyware systems like pegasus existing, blows everything out of the water as far as probably our worst case predictions at 2013

@abhishekpatil5768 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣i feeled that blow!!

@In_swedish_the_jam_means_sylt 9 ай бұрын

i wanted this dude to start slamming the podium and yell" I say salesmen... and women of the world unite! We must never acquiesce for it is together, TOGETHER, THAT WE PREVAIL! We must never cede control of the motherland! For it is together that - we prevail!"

@miniwarrior7 7 жыл бұрын

I'm watching this in 2016 and this is fkn unbelievable!!!! I can't keep up with this futuristic crap.

@TheAechBomb 5 жыл бұрын

the future was years ago

@adrianalexandrov7730 3 жыл бұрын

imagine watching it in 2020

@yeetyeet7070 3 жыл бұрын

This is still important today

@provenknowledge 3 жыл бұрын

Knowledge is power.

@theword4501 5 жыл бұрын

Very Interesting

@josephcombes7058 8 жыл бұрын

looks like im going to have to learn more about network security......ahh fuck.

@FourtySven 10 жыл бұрын

i raised my hand, for real.

@TribunusLaticlavus 10 жыл бұрын

I liked the end of that disclaimer :P

@piratepat44 10 жыл бұрын

When he is talking about the wireless routing advertisement, is he talking about BGP?

@mariarahelvarnhagen2729 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic Accounting

@mariarahelvarnhagen2729 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic KZfaq Work With Weston Hecker

@mor4y 3 жыл бұрын

Don't ever make the mistake of looking this guy up on twitter, he's seems to have exchanged all his knowledge and enthusiasm for bitterness and bigotry, such a waste of someone who could have really helped get that awkward bit of security that is metadata over to the general public 🤦‍♂️

@Samuel-oh9fv Жыл бұрын

What's his twitter handle?

@theinsanegamergeek 11 ай бұрын

"WAH, man doesnt support my politics therefore BAD!" Grow up.

@efeyzee 8 ай бұрын

He seems to be off Twitter but his LinkedIn has his pronouns. I want to see if the bad vibes I got off him is correct, what kind of bigotry are you talking about

@hwhw4414 10 ай бұрын

Remember when internet used to be in a room attached to a building with one good math game and the jnco chat room? Our house also had magic cable. Freshman year college , I refused to get Facebook. Three months later I feel like I'm the last to get fb.... no. we were one of the first. Operator how may I direct your call.

@Astarath 5 жыл бұрын

Have you thought about connecting two or three microphones mounted on equidistant sides of the board to map the room the device is in, in 3D via passive sonar?

@thedramallama69 2 жыл бұрын

2 akg condenser microphones would pick up the room perfectly... if mounted properly

@elidoubleday8080 5 жыл бұрын

This guy is a fucking genius and great talker

@levvayner4509 5 жыл бұрын

If your system is intercepted, the id of your node sending delete commands would be accessible, right? If tor users in your area were limited, like in the case of the Harvard bomb threat genius, you could be identified as well.

@alexc4924 5 жыл бұрын

* The system spams the data everywhere and hopes the other node gets it eventually, it doesn't know where the other node actually is, so what good is a node ID? * If the adversary captures enough nodes they might be able to track down the sender by timing analysis, but it will be difficult. * If they're using Tor then if the adversary captures enough nodes, it still won't help them unless they also break Tor. (but then at least one of the nodes has to have an Internet uplink in order to access Tor, and they can unplug that node)

@briankemery459 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone happen to know which botnet talk he refers to at 13:00?

@kevinowenburress2435 5 жыл бұрын

Okay so this guy knows about telecomix

@an_on5252 5 жыл бұрын

questions on vpn stuffs - he mentioned that apple doesn't allow for the vpn to be set and secured before any real data gets tossed: what popular OSs allow/disallow this and how do I set it up to firs vpn-erize my connection?

@EduardoGonzalez-bm1mk 4 жыл бұрын

You can use socks proxies with random proxies services like stormproxies . But their ip are flagged in some sites .

@tubbalcain 3 жыл бұрын

@@EduardoGonzalez-bm1mk socks(5) proxys don't supply encryption by it self, that happens on applicationlevel, like shadowsocks or Orbot.

@Adding1122 9 жыл бұрын

So what would be the difference between placing a couple Wifi Pineapples with wireshark enabled, and a coupe "F-BOMB" 's around?

@KK-uy6gd 9 жыл бұрын

Like he said earlier in the presentation, he doesn't want to aggressively sniff the data. He's doing this all passively. You could do it with the pinapples but pineapples cost a little more than the f-bombs.

@CarterColeisInfamous 10 жыл бұрын

zomg thats tots the structure i was going to propose 18:23

@vuufke4327 2 жыл бұрын

this guy truly is the cliché movie hacker man, with the map gui tracking, narrow glasses ponytail and all

@Cookie_Wookie_7 5 жыл бұрын

What happens to the FBOMBS when there is a power outage?

@TheAechBomb 5 жыл бұрын

they drop offline, and if it's a bunch at once in an area you know it's safe to set them back up

@conceptrat 3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps this would helped with tracing during Covid19?

@thedramallama69 2 жыл бұрын

Id rather know where the feds were on the 6th. Seams less predatory to me

@isbestlizard 4 жыл бұрын

0:42 the correct insult is "you dog faced pony soldier liars!"

@grinlike1282 9 жыл бұрын

black or white... its all a gray zone

@mthlay15 7 жыл бұрын

why am I watching these videos? I don't know how to program and I've never soldered anything.

@calebccff 6 жыл бұрын

Why ask rhetorical questions? You can learn both of those things relatively easily. Maybe you should, but you can enjoy it anyway

@Tokyo-gz5nc 9 жыл бұрын

"for fun"

@Someone-else-Probably 7 жыл бұрын

I guess Bolbi Stroganovsky got bored of slapping and clapping

@MB-zx5ow 7 жыл бұрын

@3:55 -- I need a drink, maybe 3

@glennmesel7987 5 жыл бұрын

@Lethaltail 3 жыл бұрын

But Brendon: what does a cat have to do with fiber optics?

@Beall619 5 жыл бұрын

"we can't rely as a community, on the government not prosecuting hacker's for legal actions" 8:50

@SuperiorFanBase 10 ай бұрын

2023.... I think we lost?

@vuufke4327 2 жыл бұрын

that podium looks very sad

@gl_tonight 8 жыл бұрын

dude i struggle running filters on 300MB caps wtf are you doing with 600GB+ caps I'd be lost running the stats on that i'd be like paradise

@lua-nya 7 жыл бұрын

Well, I think the P2P nodes do some pre-filtering... I don't have that software, so I'm not sure.

@beyondcatastrophe_ 4 жыл бұрын

Hongkong protests are going on... that comment about protests seems sooo relevant right now

@HelloKittyFanMan. 5 жыл бұрын

How could someone get electrocuted by one of those plugs? Who's putting a finger from each arm onto each prong of the plug?

@zombie_pigdragon Жыл бұрын

They shorted mains power into the USB power out.

@HelloKittyFanMan. Жыл бұрын

@@zombie_pigdragon: That's not what I'm asking. You'd have to touch one side with each hand in order to be electrocuted!

@di3g04 5 жыл бұрын

Real technical talk starts at 9:42

@ethanwild3301 Жыл бұрын

Thank You

@HJess1980 9 жыл бұрын

TheHark.net - phising site now?

@CGoody564 7 жыл бұрын

he didn't get the funding needed

@makilgore06 9 жыл бұрын

20:30 for WaReZ lolol

@user-kk5qe9fj2l 3 жыл бұрын

that's a really nice idea you have there, would be a shame if someone found a way to deploy it on routers via a virus.

@XRatedPoetry 9 жыл бұрын

what uh, what if uh...what a person put about 10 of these in time square and like...dropped a bluemonster hack to stream the feed to the screens

@dead_p1xl964 7 жыл бұрын

Well, that's terrifying. My apartment when this was filmed was right smack in the middle of that surveillance map...

@gafeht 7 жыл бұрын

*faint pencil scribbling*

@dead_p1xl964 7 жыл бұрын

I live 1300 miles away now. Scribble away.

@gafeht 7 жыл бұрын

*more scribbling*

@Donaldo 8 жыл бұрын

can't view past 12:59

@dakorjparie2425 5 жыл бұрын

pineapple just cigar attack? at 10 minute

@dakorjparie2425 5 жыл бұрын

oh, it was jasager pineapple attack

@tinkerbellsfan1991 Жыл бұрын

Lmfao. If you don't want to see my ..... or her...... don't hack us . Protect us

@tinkerbellsfan1991 Жыл бұрын

Raymond Murphy

@spacepirateivynova 7 жыл бұрын

It's a damn shame those 'mysterious strangers' managed to completely screw over 'occupy wall street' and use it for their own social justice purposes.

@CGoody564 7 жыл бұрын

those mysterious strangers he was referring to were feds who infiltrated the groups and started violence so the team of feds could use force; not sjw's. please pay attention and don't try to use what he said for your own purpose. that's why that was mentioned during the 'counter-infiltration' slide, and was followed by the Blackberry statement.

@hello-again6994 7 жыл бұрын

Grim Dark End ...did the feds outsource stupidity to sjws?

@smorrow 6 жыл бұрын

While I don't doubt that the deep state is diabolical, i.imgur.com/caYsNxV.jpg.

@Lewis5850 10 жыл бұрын

Couldn't be more relevant after finding the NSA has been reaping all the app data taken from apps over collecting.

@HelloKittyFanMan. 5 жыл бұрын

8 GB apiece? OK, so they actually _don't_ have hard drive space, then.

@retrotails 9 жыл бұрын

The horrible programming language he refers to at around 14:11 is spelled "nesC" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NesC

@raingloom5334 8 жыл бұрын

+retrotails THANK YOU I opened the comments only for this

@SciStarborne 6 жыл бұрын

All the talk of budgeting for the hardware, and I'm thinking "why not just load it onto a used mobile phone?"

@TheAechBomb 5 жыл бұрын

because phones have a bunch of different hardware configurations, it'd be hard to set up something that'd plug-and-play on all of them

@HelloKittyFanMan. 5 жыл бұрын

Haha, oh yeah, just assume they're all single...!

@abdAlmajedSaleh 4 жыл бұрын

the domain i think has virus

@S3thc0n 6 жыл бұрын

Not sure why a map is needed. I recommend building an XKeyStore equivalent.

@HelloKittyFanMan. 5 жыл бұрын

Haha, "LOG"ging!

@OSRS_KQs 5 жыл бұрын

I'm serious when I say this. I don't understand what this meeting is about or what most of the topics are (I just skipped around). Can someone summarize what this video is about? Did Weev win the lawsuit? What has changed since 2013? These defcon videos keep appearing in my recommended section. I figure I should put some effort into understanding what they are about.

@MarkPentler 5 жыл бұрын

reetismatic have you not googled at all?

@suteerth12 10 жыл бұрын

Does anyone else think this is like Watchdogs(the game)?

@glassed6852 7 жыл бұрын

your elementary knowledge of hacking would make that a "yes"

@gafeht 7 жыл бұрын

I thought it was more like the matrix, what with the computers and stuff.

@deanvangreunen6457 6 ай бұрын

"Free for indie developers" did not age well, with the #2023Chaos

@Polaf3456 10 жыл бұрын

Oh man he referenced starcraft... I definitly dont think he means starcraft 2 either.

@max_ishere 3 жыл бұрын

Fix your audio

@spacepirateivynova 7 жыл бұрын

Why use Ruby scripting when you can easily embed Python and have 20 different ways to do any one task :D Though yes, I do think that Ruby is a very good language to learn as your first... and that makes it pretty well useful for anyone who understands the architecture. I'm just a python geek :D

@di3g04 5 жыл бұрын

He's an Apple boy. He says so in the 40:00 min

@CGoody564 5 жыл бұрын

@@di3g04 isn't that what ApplePy emulation is for? Not to mention that.. you know... Python can be used on Mac anyway?

@CGoody564 5 жыл бұрын

As one who just started trying to learn python, it is generally the easiest to begin when you have no actual particular goal in mind; however if you do have a specific goal in mind, it doesn't matter how many ways there are to program it generally so as long as you have an understanding of what needs to be done; if there is a language that allows one to learn what they need for a specific task quickly, I see no issue. Context and perspective matter; general purpose isn't always best.

@HelloKittyFanMan. 5 жыл бұрын

Well, to believe in immortality for real, it's about understanding what happens to us after the time we spend in the spirit world when we die -- we gain or bodies back, perfected (resurrection) -- and the role Jesus Christ has in that.

@DukeShambles 3 жыл бұрын

This didn't age well. hahaha

@necronomicon1472 5 жыл бұрын

I looked up nesC - no one should have to use such a terrible language!

@MarkButQuestion 5 жыл бұрын

Goddam the audio is horrible.

@MarkButQuestion 5 жыл бұрын

@Meso Phyl Smoke more weed and relax dude, you seem to have issues

@Architector_4 5 жыл бұрын

That's true. What helped with it is getting an EQ up my audio chain and lowering the treble. lol

@Earlesstag 5 жыл бұрын

on one hand the actual points and security flaws being presented are valid and really do need to be investigated and worked on. On the other hand, Using word choice such as "Holy War" and being excessively antagonistic, egotistical, and confrontational about it has obviously not gotten anywhere with the law. The attitude, word tone and word choice that he is using is not going to solve anything. It is just going to rile up the people who all ready agree with you while distancing the community from the government officials that can actually make a change. If you want change, approach the companies/organizations/governments that you find vulnerabilities in and present them with what the vulnerability is and a potential solution if you have one. Be cooperative, engaging, open and friendly, and that is how you will get change

@lancethrustworthy 3 жыл бұрын

Somebody needs to learn to edit, and edit this video. It's got too much poop.

@a8552bc 3 жыл бұрын

This was in 2013, and this comment with 7 months ago.

@RonJohn63 10 жыл бұрын

All credibility is *lost* when a "heroic, freedom-loving activists" mentions fear of the Government throwing them in Guantanamo.

@0xCAFEF00D 9 жыл бұрын

I don't quite see why. Surely you're not saying that he has nothing to fear because he's a proclaimed nice guy?

@RonJohn63 9 жыл бұрын

MrSnowman "because he's a proclaimed nice guy?" How many of these "heroic, freedom-loving activists" have *actually* been thrown into Gitmo??? 5? 10? 30? 100? Or *ZERO*?

@0xCAFEF00D 9 жыл бұрын

RonJohn63 First of all: How would we know where the government takes these people? I don't think they allow them to bring cellphones. Secondly I think he's not actually talking about the actual Gitmo, more about the practice of prosecuting people unjustly. Which certainly has happened. So how is his credibility lost? He may lose it according to a specific interpretation. Taking everything literally. Really Gitmo isn't the only military prison where the US can stash political prisoners. Just who do you think is keeping their practiced detaining under check? God? Some incorruptible person? It's crazy to assume you know everything when dealing with matters like this.

@Zeit142 9 жыл бұрын

I think that it was being used as a comedic device, not actually a warning that you will be sent to gitmo for anything talked about.

@RonJohn63 9 жыл бұрын

Zeit142 "used as a comedic device" Maybe. But I'm old enough to remember when parts of The Left really were irrationally panicked about being arrested and sent to Gitmo. (Just like elements of The Right who were panicked over being herded into FEMA Reeducation Camps.)