Imagine you knowing anything about agriculture...

@@ShainAndrews What does knowledge of agriculture have to do with a company selling you a product with all the bells and whistles included except you can't use the bells and whistles without paying substantially more money beyond attempting to defend and justify it? - Are the people complaining about BMW's subscription based heated seats irrelevant because they don't understand automotives? Any fan of video games knows exactly what this path looks like and where it ultimately leads. Corporations slowly push forward adding features over time to the base product (lifetime unlocks) garnering all of the priase imaginable, then when they inevitably hit the wall and struggle for new features, they begin pay-gating features previously included in base products slowly enough that nobody complains until they realize they're paying the same or more for a product that has comparably less features unless spending even more money. In video games it's customization/aesthetic/visual things like character clothing, arguably not that important, being taken from the base game and monetized in other ways - But is in essence the same thing happening here, except with tractors and farm equipment it's markedly more useful/important features

@@TheCynicalJedi Who are you to jump into somebody else's conversation. Sure like you trying to compare the real world with games. You're not going to make it very far. Really like you trying to make it about software, or feature keys... of which my comment was not about at all.

@@ShainAndrews Lmao. It's an open comment section, not a DM and OP hadn't even replied to you, for what is in hindsight obvious reason. I wasn't comparing the real world to video games, I was comparing two comparable situations ocurring in two different real world industries. "Of which my comment was not about at all." Your comment was about absolutely nothing, other than attempting to belittle someone else based on their knowledge, or lack of, in regards to agriculture, something irrelevant to the point they made. For the record, I didn't specify software or feature keys at all, I said "features" - Those can in fact be physical things too, like heated seats in a car, that in some cases you're forced into paying extra for whether you want it or not, and those that do still need to pay more to use it.

@@ShainAndrews LMAO, you forgot to tip your fedora...

@Doug Anderson I think it is more complacency than arrogance to be honest. Unlike Automotive, the standards for agricultural machines are much less stringent. A caveat to less standards and more 'guidelines' is that security measures end up becoming optional rather than mandatory with Automotive. Obviously almost everyone has a car, very little have agricultural machinery - the OEM effectively has less of an incentive to invest in security measures.

@@douganderson7002 Most people are very well aware with the problems of John Deere and their software. Actually wait nevermind people are dumb I forget only 30% of the US population even knows what the name of our Vice President is and only 60% of Americans can find the United States on a map.

Farmers have been 'hacking' their own tractors for maybe over a decade now. Farmers have been doing it out of necessity longer than anyone else. We see facilities getting hit, not lone tractors taking to the hills. There is atleast one really good documentary about younger farmers dealing with these restraints put on the equipment. They definitely do care and it seems to really hinder their efforts.

not alot of networked devices on the farm...

@@thinkamajig Wrong.

Love the feedback, and I totally get where you’re coming from. What you asked for is coming soon 😁 For the talk, I specifically chose to publish this way of doing it as it shows a way that the OEM will never be able to prevent this from happening: the OEM cannot stop me from doing this to my device, in good faith. I know it may seem like I’m making it easy to fix, but it certainly isn’t haha. One example is that for them to prevent this from happening would require full disk encryption and they can’t simply start encrypting devices as the compute overhead and possibility of bricking devices remotely is too high. Basically, the demo is enough to show those who need to know how easy it is to jailbreak.

It's always a double edged sword. You're telling them how to lock it down better and telling malicious actors how to exploit them, but you're also telling people how to be able to actually use the very expensive machine they paid for without being extorted.

As mentioned the units in the field will out last our laptops. Farmers don't upgrade fast enough for JD to patch effectively. A hack today lasts for decades. Food should be Open Source.

Read this as "fantastic corn" at first.

that was such a fantastic comment. i want to commend you for the best internet comment all around.

I believe some talks was shut down by the feds

Cause you got 20 acres and i've got 43.

They do except that the firmware has to pass their repo and all the yum configs have signature thing on. I am however working on another method using isobus virtual terminals which are like popups over canbus

YES!!!

So sick as in no one watching can reproduce his hacks as he does not go into the details of his successful hacks, just waffles past them.

The issue being the group of people who happen to be technically skilled enough to write the code for that overlaps very minimally with the group of people who are farming at the scale to benefit from said code.

There’s so many corny puns in Agriculture, so I can’t confirm this 😂

@@SickCodes I've got no beef with that

@@SickCodes now you're just farming for laughs

@@renakunisaki nah, I respect his dedication to reaping the discourse being sown here

people here complaining about this guy's presentation and I have no idea what they are talking about. but, would make a lot of sense if it's just adhd cus I also have terrible adhd. I guess ppl with adhd can both understand each other a lot better than someone without.

It has the appearance of being from a livestream. Bitrate management is severely constrained on those, seeing as the encoder can barely plan ahead at all.

this man just gave you the right to repair

this wasn't a video showing THAT he cracked the computer, hes telling you the tools he used to break the tractor. He wants you to use the tools to break your tractor as well

Thanks for the feedback mate, there was definitely quite a bit of fluff in here. In follow up talks since this, I have removed most of the useless/boring parts. This was my first talk post-pandemic so was pretty nervous on stage 😂

Every thong 😳

@@renakunisaki 😩

Does it even have AI? I thought it just had GPS.

Neither one of you know anything. Just buzz word salad tossed at the wall....

@@ShainAndrews intuitive SaaS systems completely in harmony w/ versatility of on-demand deployment how about that one? I hope you liked my salad because it was hard to put together without my brain hurting lol

@@ShainAndrews also sir, with all due respect, can you confirm or deny the allegations that you are in-fact a dog driving a car - who can also write KZfaq comments?

I think the biggest takeaway is that it's now possible to repair your tractor, and actually be allowed to use the features it has, without paying obscene subscription fees and just trusting that their systems keep doing the right thing. Another notable finding is that the anti-theft protection is trivial to bypass.

I hate to criticize people who give presentations, but this was really messed up. If he had structured the content it would have been really interesting, but I really struggled to follow and kept thinking that everything will be wrapped up at the end of the presentation, but then he ended up playing DOOM. Running DOOM on the console on a tractor is fun, but not very interesting when it's hard to understand how he manage to do it. I doubt that people who are not computer literate will benefit from this information at all. It was far too messy and unstructured for that. What's the point of having lots of slides that he just flips right past.

Yeah this guy would have benefited greatly if he'd prepared a script and read from it. It seemed like he had some technical issues as well so that's why he skipped some slides.

I didn't have trouble following it.

@@kspfan001 can you tell us how he enabled root without desoldering?

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eMqWo7leyK_PpXU.html

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o715icepvtOXeIE.html "Repeat after me "I'm retarded not retardent"

Only when it helps them

Watching handicaps on 20ft

So here's another 500 lb interaction every iteration of action "not touching you"

You clearly havent been around a serious farming operation in a while. You may as well state that "Its a teenager, they don't NEED the internet!"

For exapmle: They fly drones with multispectral optics that capture invisible changes for TARGETED applications of chemicals, fertilizer, irrigation, infestation intervention etc... These are then used to augment regularly sampled satellite data of the farm and compiled into a solution package which is crosschecked for weather forecasts and implemented for the day.

@@Energine1 Niggas got by with their eyes and an almanac for millions of years, they don't need that shit, lol

nah this guy is "Sick Codes"

@@quillclock could he be in anonymous?

@@robs3644 I mean yeah. anyone could be.

Do you reckon he sleeps with his dad?

No his name is Patrick

Right back at you. Get over it.

@@HRRRRRDRRRRR Get over what? Watching half the human race go full retard? How about turn off the propaganda news networks and stop complying with your own slavery? I’m sure those are big words and concepts for you to synthesize so take your time.

I travelled to the US recently and people mostly don't wear masks anymore, but at conventions and other gatherings it's usually heavily recommended because you have a lot of people spending time together in the same crowded place, so disease can very easily spread - makes sense to take extra precautions there.

youre the only ones freaking out dude. where did the "my body my choice" go?

@@rebane2001 So you don’t get it either. I’ll spell it out for you. People have been spreading all sorts of nasty things for hundreds maybe even thousands of years and the human race is still here alive and kicking. What makes you think (oh yeah, the propaganda media networks) that masks do anything at all? Hundreds and thousands of years is scientific proof vs. 2 years of media BS. I’m sorry, I just can’t believe anyone with half a brain can even think that’s logical. It makes no sense at all. I respectfully disagree and I hope this fades away so that our kids concept of a normal life isn’t permanently adulterated.