Because of Suh which put us at #3 defense I believe.

We had some guys that year. Crazy tho that our offense was the weak link considering the personnel. Just goes to show how much a great front 5 do for us.

@@ayewhaddupdoe facts that defense was really good we even had slay back then

Considering no other year we had a good defense its pretty easy to chose

@@florida1289 #2 overall defense before the refs in Dallas screwed us again

So true. I can think of at least 3 lions channels where they straight up read Pride of Detroit for content.

I agree 💯

@@controldekinai Woodward sports

That's what social media is for. Everyone thinks that they're independent in thought. But what does everyone do on social media? Insult everyone whose takes are different than their own. No one even asks for proof. For instance the Eagles just went from being True Contenders to a laughing stock with almost the same roster due 100% to play-calling. Do you know _why_ no one seems to fully acknowledge this? Because everyone wants retain the take that only QB play affects outcomes. Even on channels such as these you'll rarely hear people *in the comments section* openly criticize any HC. Those are Authority Figures. If the OC & DC were to blame, how does one point the finger at them without including the HC who should be responsible for them? People can't. So they won't even blame someone HC-adjacent. Normally I wouldn't care except that's at least something this channel & a few others at least do _sometimes._ & it feels a little insulting to sort of half-indicate that it isn't appreciated. & opinions are generally harmless until they lead to actions. For instance it doesn't matter how many people still think Lamar is a glorified RB. They tried to replace him & make him look less important than he is & failed. But what about Justin Fields? Getsy instituted the designed QB rushes twice, once in '22, the other time mid-'23 when Eberflus was presumably busy acclimating the new DC & Montez Sweat to the defense. (Eberflus has said repeatedly that He Decides what plays to limit the offense to & his o-line play-calls are similar to another micro-managing HC, Frank Reich). The first time, Fields made the Bears the #1 offense 3 weeks straight with no o-line or receiving corps. The Bears lose all 3 games & because the public doesn't want to implicate the HC they cite this as proof that Fields can't win. They order him not to throw to certain receivers on certain plays. This results in drives ending when those plays are called. So they say "they had to do this to simplify the offense for Fields." So it's His Fault that his coaches made a decision that led to disastrous drive-ending plays for _over a year?_ Again, wouldn't care if this was only opinion. But NFL coaches & GMs are not immune to such trash talk. Matt Canada was chanted to the unemployment office. Now perhaps because of fan retribution, NFL teams think that a guy who produced more offense without on-field talent than Allen Mahomes & Burrow who has a WR _trio_ isn't worth a 4th-round pick. Funny world, eh? I haven't yet seen a single thing Caleb has done in college that Fields hasn't done better in the NFL. No one refutes this. They just cleat out whatever meme they last heard & defend it. Caleb can do things _Goff_ can't do & Fields can do everything Caleb can. It makes no sense.

I agree, I think Williams is gonna bring the dawg out of our Dline.

Agreed!

Agree! We will have Paschal and hopefully a healthy Levi as well. Are CBs bout to lock WRs down. Season cannot come fast enough

It says Bly is the cornerbacks coach still on Wikipedia

@@marcpomaville9429 He's not, it hasn't been updated.

An injury or 2 to our offensive line would derail the entire season. Right now we stand to fill-in with Sorsdal and Awosika's of the world when (not if), those injuries happen. Even the most ardent of Goff supporters (I'm one of them), admit that he's wholly dependent on the system around him for him to function optimally, and that system starts with a top 5 O-line in front of him to keep him clean. If we don't have that, he's in panic mode, and the shit show starts.

DJ reader is a key but the main key is Davenport

@@applyingpressure9963no it’s reeder

@@solomo3456 no is Davenport we already know what reader can do Davenport have to play his a game if the d-line as a whole is going to be successful

@@applyingpressure9963 we got pascal comminsky to back him up but it’s definitely

lol. You people are arguing over defensive tackles READER (spell his name right) or right defensive ends. Your left end is the only end that matters. Defensive tackle is a rotatable position and right end is an edge setter. It’s really a dumb argument. If your team loses due to depth at either position, your team is poorly assembled.

Ansah, Fairley/CJ Mosley, Suh, Jason Jones, Tulloch, Whitehead, Levy, Slay, Mathis, Ihedigbo, Quin

Lol. Why don’t we talk about the pass defense? You realize with the nfc north championship on the line that “great defense” allowed Aaron Rodgers to not miss a single pass in the middle of the field, right?

Another one the Lions ruined. Just one day decided he didn't want to play anymore; we absolutely killed his heart and desire to compete with how abysmally awful our front office (and coaching staff(s)), were. Barry, Megatron, Levy... the list goes on and on, but those 3 gotta be at or near the top.

Lol. The guy played how many snaps? He is a complete reclamation project at this point. You need to accept that.

He has played 2 downs in two and half years. And has had a torn achilles in each leg. I wouldn’t hold my breath that he provides anything. It’s sad, but true. If by some miracle he does see the field, it either means we have a catastrophic decimation of injuries at the position, or overwhelming disappointments, or (the least likely) he somehow plays like a superstar out of nowhere despite all the odds against him.

@@brandonbaty2291 I’m sorry but it’s always sorry ahh YT people talking like y’all know more about what a athlete can do more than anyone…. If y’all know so much then why aren’t their more YT athletes in football and basketball??🤨🤨🤔 oh right because y’all got that sorry loser mentality…. That’s why y’all careers never mean shii…. Black athletes understand you have to be tough and resilient we don’t accept defeat because we AREN’T cowards who’s always been able to hide behind shii. Ooops let me be quiet because I hurt feelings with the truth and now the replies gonna be “ 🤓 why you had to make it racial” because that’s literally the truth and difference between us!!!

They were horrible in pass defense in 14. They couldn’t cover a TE to save their lives.

Lol. Who is Ensah? You realize the record with Suh was 2010: 6-10 2011: 10-6 2012: 4-12 2013: 7-9 Short of 14, those defenses was a massive reason they lost. They also lost in New Orleans almost exclusively due to defense in 2011 It wasn’t a good era at all.

@@thomaswatkins3686 You are getting a little too heated there man. I was referencing general time frames. As far as Ziggy, I didn't look up his last name. However, in the future I will make darn sure that I align what I think with your expectations. 🤨

Lol. When? The 1 half game he played for the lions? We are using the term stud pretty loosely these days.

@@thomaswatkins3686 on san Fran he was a lockdown.

@@thomaswatkins3686 When he was healthy in San Francisco he was pretty good!

2023 Lions were baller against the run.

Also Alim will be able to get to the QBs with DJR next to him.

So coach. What do you think about Rakestraw and T A together. Do they have a chance to be starter’s?

AG will have no more excuses. He’s got his players. Should be light’s out.

Lol. Typical Brent. Replies to himself telling everybody how bad the line is. By far the worst commenter on KZfaq and it’s not even close.

@@thomaswatkins3686 lol 😂 Tom. And your by far the most rude person that comments. If you don’t have nothing nice to say don’t say anything at all lol. Good to hear from you jackass

Interesting. I had not thought of it that way, perhaps because the different approaches of the two front offices I try to pay attention to. The Ravens and the Lions. In the Ravens case, they generally just sit and take BPA, with very little effort to ever trade up. Whereas the Lions seem to be trading up for specific players at least in 2024. The difference in approach is striking. I know your comments enough to recognize that they have validity. So it's interesting to me to hear the different opinion on what the Lions did in this Draft. Certainly a stark comparison to the Ravens.

@@all_22_films I know it's super pessimistic and callous of a "regular dude" to call out these moves, but I respect the HELL out of what Holmes and Co. have done, especially with the draft, but it's infuriating to see all the fluff, like the moves/draft picks mentioned above, on top of the Hooker and Martin picks last year. These are 3rd round picks, they could've been/should've been used on players to help this team win last year and now, not "projects" (as Holmes himself admits they are), that even if ALL the stars align and the BEST case scenario comes to fruition, these guys are borderline NFL starters or backups, 2... 3, 4 years from now. It's asinine.

I should add; I hope to hell I'm 100% wrong and off-base with my perception of these moves I took issue with and they still run it back to the playoffs again and finish the job this year, but holy crap did a lot of teams get a whole lot better (at least on paper), after the draft and FA this offseason, particularly in the NFC. It ain't gonna be easy.

Typically with a spy and with corners who have quick reaction times, closing speed and strong in run support. Like the dudes they drafted.

Saying he was a cancer on the defense is definitely going too far. That term is reserved for dudes who disrupt the locker room, not for dudes who come up short of NFL quality. Give the dude a break.

Robertson and Sutton are close

Yes

Alt account for Tommie Watts? Troll? Hater? Pessimist? 🤡? All of the above??? So many possibilities 😂

@@LionsOnTheHunt313 don't like facts

@@Jamar-lg9ob I like facts lol. I don't like when people state their opinions as facts. You do this often in the comments.