"endgame" is a meme term that keeps you buying expensive boards in the hopes that one might cure your keyboard purchasing addiction. the real endgame is realizing you love the keyboards you have and you don't really need any more because the ones you have look, sound, and feel good, and they do what a keyboard does: type. be happy with what you have and save up for a new hobby, get a dirtbike or something. this is coming from someone who loves keyboards. trust me

Just want to say, every time I see your name and thumbnail in my subscriptions feed, I genuinely get a rush of joy that I get to watch a video from you. Thank you

i've been waiting for this review!!! so excited for VENTO80!!!

I was never really a keyboard enthusiast, I just saw the opportunity to make my perfect board and I did, thanks to you and a lot of time and money t trying different things. Your videos helped me above all the other creators’, the last I “needed” being your video on the Akko Mod 003. Got one for myself in grey, waited for nigh on 3 years through covid for my GMK panels to arrive and at the perfect moment the zeal clickiez came out. Paired perfectly with the Rama works m6-C (the one that has a grey and prime colour retro gaming palette). Sure I kinda want a hall effect board for gaming but, mainly thanks to you and your videos, I can confidently say I have my endgame - I only come back to watch your uploads occasionally cause you’re a nice dude :)

I love this channel always give me how I can expand criteria of judgement.

Another great review, thanks Scott! The Vento does sound similar to the evolve, which is fine since that's also good. I also agree that I like the Suit more than either, but still another great release by Owllabs!

defff artistic design, such playful lookin board!

Great video as always scott! These kinds of boards are way out of reach for me, but I'm glad theres a way to listen to it :) cant wait for the next one!

This is the keyboard I've been waiting for, and I hope I can buy it!🤩🤩

Wowie, I am digging this boards design

This video actually made me appreciate my mister suit a bit more. I yearned for a vento but realized I was just bummed I didn't get the evolv and was fomoing on this one. The biggest thing I can appreciate about the vento aside from the matrix-esque design is that you can build it without the foams and have a nice bouncy typing experience and still get a good sound signature whereas the mister suit you kinda have to use all the foams because it sounded so weird without them but you end up with something stiffer.

Loving the content Scott (especially the Bond analogy)! Bummer about the hotswap sockets, I saw a board on Alexotos stream recently that was millmaxed from the factory, that seemed like something next level, I’d love to see that become the norm and replace the Kailh-style sockets! No risk of popping them out!

I like how he used the palm rest to have the boards line up perfectly during cuts.

it's beautiful

Wow! Even with all the foam it still sound quite lively with the GMK caps! The Vento 80 actually sounds a little deeper but I think it's still got a little clack, just not as much.

Owlab and Wuque are definitely killing the game imo !

I'm glad you mention about the kailh hotswap sockets, i have to be super careful to make sure they dont collapse but even the slightest mistake is costing me. i guess the only good thing is.. "it still works i guess" lol, the OCD in me feels weird knowing it's collapsed and my switch essentially has a bent pin but w/e.. it makes contact.. does what it needs to do.. its fine i guess

I'll be honest and say that Owlabs have kinda missed the mark, mainly because I think as a company they are kind of not sure where exactly they want to go for their higher end stuff compared to the qwertykey boards, particularly the neo series which pretty much captures most of the essence of old owlab boards in a ridiculously low price point due to high MOQ, simple-and-good design, and honestly these days, even wins out older owlab boards in the no-foam department, not to mention some pretty innovative engineering behind some of the board design choices like the magnetic quick connect, "stack" mounts options, etc. That left really little room to go for the higher end models besides going for more "aesthetic" choices, which, I really feel this is hit-and-miss, and acoustically a lot of these aesthetic choices end up being worse, and due to the intricacy involved in the machining, the cost also goes up significantly. It somewhat reminds me of the issue faced when monokei tried to bring out the more mainstream jane ME v2, which imo really misses the mark with the multitude of issues in terms of the engineering design, the acoustics, and also some QC problems that came together with it, all due to the aesthetic choice of "screwless" and a more modern look to the more "plain jane" look that, ironically, should design the jane. End game is personal, and so there's nothing wrong with folks who find this board end game, and there will definitely be folks who gets drawn strongly to the aesthetic of this board, which is definitely one of it's kind. It's just that I'm not a fan of the deviation of the owlabs brand from a more mainstream appeal kind of brand that's hard to get due to pricing/availability, to a brand that now a lot more niche (even more niche than matrixlabs from what I can tell), that also seem to have a lot of gimmicks rather than features.

Very interesting to hear your take on the sound, I definitely trust what your view is given you've heard them (and vastly more boards) in person than I have, but from those sounds tests, the Mr Suit sounded more solid than the Vento which to me seemed almost more hollow of flimsy which is weird given the quality of construction and heft to the board

I'm new to custom keyboard and I purchased a kzzi k75 pro (arcade model with kzzi moment pre lub linear switches). as soon I got it I tape mod it and changed the keycaps for something more translucent and ticker. I am happy with the sound, feel and quality of this setup. I sit on my desk everyday, write code and the sound it makes and feel makes me proud. This is my endgame keyboard.

Another banger board from Owlab! I would still pick Mr.Suit over the Vento 80 as well because of the sound profile and F13 key.

I really like the Vento look and sound. If I had big money, that would be something I'd go for.

Ooooooh I really love it…… I hope to win this time the reffle❤

I like the James Bond and Mr Suit thread line 😉

What I've heard is that endgame is just when you run out of money. But I think it obviously has to meet a sound, feel, aesthetic and level of functionality that you're happy with. And like you said, it needs to invoke that feeling of specialness. Not really sure if finding your endgame would stop you from purchasing new and upcoming keyboards though.

THE FIRST WHO MENTIONS THE PROBLEM WITH THE HOT-SWAP SOCKETS! The collapsing leaf-springs are the worst!!!

Pumped to have won the raffle for this

Watched this channel on 2020-2021 came to see again and got surprised w that ridiculous haircut😂😂😂😂 that haircut is too good

endgame keyboard is the friends we made along the way

As always, loved your video. I personally think the suit just sounds a lottttt better. Idk if it's the switches, but for some reason it sounds empty even with all the foams--not so much hollow, but more dull. edit: it sounds like a modded gk61 with foams lmao

Great video! I'm currently deciding if I want to sign up for the Vento raffle or F1-8x V2 group buy.

It totally is a pain to deal with super flexy pcb/plate combos. I pretty much have to use a plate fork. Geon makes one and it's been pretty essential for foamless builds.

I find it so interesting that people would pick the Suit over this. I love my Suit! And I agree! But when the Suit came out all people did was complain about it not sounding great. Interesting to see how differently folks feel years later.

A one-off designed by yourself is the only true endgame; Literally cannot be more exclusive, holds sentimental value because you made it yourself, and can tune the looks and structure to your liking and your liking only. Which is why I have 2 of them and probably am going to make more

I personally enjoy it but I definitely understand why some people wouldn’t. it reminds me of the civic type r, where the aesthetic seems almost overdone

This board is like a Owlab x Matrix Labs mashup

I have a QK100 with all the foams and it isn't my favorite foamy sound. I then got a QK75n without PE or case foam and it's one of my favorite sounding boards. Time to remove the foam from my QK100. Owlabs/Qwertykeys appears to have optimized it's keyboards without foam.

계속해서 업그레이드 되어가는 세상~ 모두의 삶도 행복하게 그랬으면 좋겠네요^-^

Yeah the Kailh hotswap sockets are terrible compared to the V2 (v3?) Outemu sockets. I don’t know why nobody is using them… perhaps they're internal to Gazzew? Keebio boards have them, and it's magnificent. Better grip, keeps tension with more changes, and easier to insert

idk if its just me or finding this channel through the search bar was impossible

Wow if you missed out on the Jelly Evolv, this could be the best replacement to that.

I really wish someone would make an "endgame" 96% keyboard with a knob encoder, a couple macro keys, aluminum chassis, and a brass plate.

I was mistaken in my earlier comment after I paused from doing my daily 20,000 steps and saw that when he panned on the "expensive" keyboard @ the beginning it was in fact not a Q2 Series from Keychron, but I spat my water regardless lmao cuz from a distance it sure looks super similar for an expensive keyboard

I literally just had a kailh hotswap collapse on me yesterday but i managed to salvage it

Keycap selection colors looking like black diamond 75

Is there an ambient light at the back like the jelly evolv?

A definition of end game is when you have achieved all your goals and are just playing for fun.

Where is the Voice. But after I tried Jelly V2 my endgame still Spring and Suger 80 Lite. And also if you like Owlab but cannot hit the raffle, you can try Precent Studio - Luna X1, PT990 and Volt 2 those are powered by Owlab

wouldn't the flex cause that magnetic connector to lose connection?

the only reason why (in my opinion) i dont like the keyboard is the spacebar sounds really high pitched compare to the rest of the board with all foams. other than that this keyboard sounds amazing

Isnt that the jelly evolve but changed?

Can't believe hot swap sockets are failing...gotta say, I prefer Mr. Suite sound from the video. Still, I like how companies always try new stuff

If you're not daily driving a split 30% column staggered keyboard you're far from the end, keep on going you'll get there.

I was hoping that red button was a nub mouse like on old ThinkPad laptops. I've been wanting a pc keyboard with a TrackPoint for a min.

what are the keycap set you have at 2:26?

Hey Keybored, what do you think of the "feel" comparison of Suit vs Vento?

So… when are we getting that Keybored Keyboard? :D

I’ve seen you mention this in a few videos now, how do you recover from a Kailh hot swap socket failure?

Mr Suit sounds much better if you want the traditional pe foam sound.

The design is awesome, the sound though.. I'm somehow not super convinced :/ I'm honestly still in awe of my Cycle7's no foam sound, and here I just don't get that sense of excitement for sound

I gotta say I agree the mr suit is better. Not a foam person, but even so the suit sounded better. Vento looks good, but the sound is a bit disappointing for the price tag

These matter to me. They're trying to hard. I still rock my Tofu65 with my "pillow mount" idea I came up with. It's my everyday. Who would've thought. Just my thing. Timeless, simple design.

It's insane to think that keyboard weighs as much as an AR-15.

Is the plate fork in the room with us

Usually really love all of Owl labs boards but this one just looks a little too busy for my liking. Still seems pretty nice though

I do not find 'end game' keyboard. I just enjoy collecting the keyboards I like their design and maybe sell some of collection when I have more. I like to participate the raffle and do not buy overpriced resale. The concept end game is never real. There always something new, something better, something you wanna try it out.

To me the Endgame is my Mammoth 75. By that I just mean the best that I can archive and closest to perfection

OwlStab v3 was not that good before in China sales, somehow the wire always scratch the top

How are these $500+ projects still thriving when you can get prebuilt quality keyboards both mechanical and rapid trigger for $100-150?

How can you get it?

‘Ancient astronaut theorists’ 💀💀

is this the ano silver colorway?

There is no endgame. The hobby is about trying new boards and switches. Its fun. It isn’t some false destination.

Scott are you doing ok? You seemed a little blue in this episode. I hope all is well with you and I hope it’s just my imagination. Thanks as always for the videos -PAPA

There's no "endgame" in this hobby. It's more like pokemon, gotta catch them all! Well, not all, just what I like...

Looks great but sounds like a QK80 to me and for that price?! I think I’ll skip this one.

Polling rate?

The true endgame is a keyboard so expensive you couldn’t possibly justify spending money on a keyboard again 😉

Owns 5 Owlab boards, calls them Owlabs

Endgame is when your wallet is empty.

Kohaku is endgame

How does it compare to Evolv?

No ISO matrix for poor people :D but definitly nice board

Sounds good, but I have no positive comments about its appearance.

0:00 it's price

Get an ergo-something, you need thumbclusters.

wow does anybody know what the keycaps/Keyboard is @0:07?

That the new Korean style?

Nice design but sounds like every other QK/OwlLabs board.

Vento looks so alive and fun but sounds a little boring. Mr. Suit is the very opposite. If we swap the sounds of these two, I would want them both :)

Isn't it hilarious that these keyboard companies know their products are not worth what they ask for by a long shot, so they have to use artificial scarcity and exclusivity to distract

The only thing I hate is that thing with the red button on the arrrow keys, I find it really ugly.

I seriously don't like the look of this keyboard and the direction in which OwLab is going. I'm not denying that it's a good keyboard, because it probably is. But no matter how good it is, it's crossed out by my appearance. I'm a big fan of OwLab and TKL. I have two Mr Suits, but this keyboard is the biggest disappointment for me

It looks cool but I've heard $20 keebs that sound better.

It’s very masculine…

Nice board, but pass from me, I’ve already got a Mr Suit and this is not unique enough for me to justify. Also I just bought a Kohaku and I’m broke now.

Lol there's no such thing as endgame, every new toy is always going to be an endgame until someone is mature enough to fully understand what contentment and detachment to material things

510 and still no ISO?! disappointed!

you have not even touched endgame. Hit me up and I'll show you what you have missed.

For me it is too much. I like simplicity in keyboards, no extra buttons, no screens etc.. I prefer endgame that has nice unique shape with proportions, top materials, perfect finishing and awesome sound.