say it again cause bitches complain about everything but the second the show ends y’all gon be crying -

@@nicholas8484 that’s facts

Absolutely! Facts are facts, America!

@@nicholas8484 PREACH!!!

I read this comment as he said it lol

I blame people - y’all told them to switch it up but then when they do y’all want normal drag race

@@nicholas8484 and then when its back to "normal" drag race they will say its boring like season 11

@@nicholas8484 you see people asking for MORE twists?

@@nicholas8484 Not really, since S9 & AS3 we've been clamoring for a season without twists and bullshit. The thing is that twists and bullshit sell single episodes really well (sometimes), but don't do good for seasons as a whole.

I wanna see less twists and more design challenges!

Nah, Denali from s13 was the best lip syncer of recent times. Edit: I'm also including LaGanjas feature from AS6, and Kylie's lip syncs from that same season. Ginger Minj isn't bad at all either; I'm not saying Sasha Velour hasn't done her thing, but other queens have too.

@@brandohalstead7654 I was referring to the finale lip sync reveals since Sasha’s

Yeah no I definitely think that although there have been some GREAT lipsyncs, there hasn't been one as iconic since So Emotional

@@brandohalstead7654 Tbh, i think Yvie did just as well as Sasha. Not better, but she did great.

she really changed the game with lipsync reveals, her rose petals shower will forever be iconic

Exactly. Not every show is made for us.

This. It's not their fault that you don't got time to watch em all. 😂

it’s sad because with so many seasons at the same time, the attention its divided and the queens don’t get the recognition they deserve. for example the drag race italia girls don’t have many followers because the focus was on canada s2

@@felipelendario but that wasn’t for Americans, it was for people in Italy too enjoy, that’s what ppl need to understand. U can enjoy the international versions all u want (I like Canada more than my own American version for example) but u can’t get mad people aren’t watching versions of the show literally made for and by people In other countries.

@@noahreisner5199 i saw the video of one the italian queens saying how important it was for italy to have a drag race and i obviously think that’s super nice, i just think that with a little more organization they could’ve entertained the italians and also got recognition for the rest of the world. cause as i said with a lot of seasons at the same time one of them will be a success and the other one will flop (like uk s2 with us s13 and then canada s2 with italy s1 and uk s3)

I'd call the current seasons something like the "silver era" tbh The quality of these queens is through the roof and I personally think it's the best the show has been since season 6 (some exceptions of course, but S12 and 13, A6, UK2 and 3 etc. are amazing)

@@theshard5697 I would exclude season 13 in MY opinion honestly, but everything else I agree. Especially Drag Race España, that season was immaculate for its first season

@@munozl613 yeah i didn't like 13 too much.

@@munozl613 I feel like season 13 is a great season to rewatch/watch when u know what's gonna happen. The judging and twists were lackluster but the challenges and the queens themselves were great

golden age s4 s5 s6 and as2 season 12 was amazing too ngl

NGL i think that does have to do with the casting as well, no one can disagree that season 8 to 11 had Multiple filler queens, queens which they knew would get packing early and didn't expect us to be attached to them. Today it's clear as day Ru likes a ton of the queen's and almost always mentions watching their auditions, it almost feels like the casting is mostly her choice by now instead of the past seasons

oh ABSOLUTELY- i noticed by the first episode of s12 that she was enjoying it sm more and still is in the recent seasons. it's refreshing to see the judges actually enjoying what they're doing

Yes!! Even in the reading challenges he was like not really engaged. Miss the early D.R. Ru

Definitely! I think it had to do with a lot of the criticisms that the host Rupaul is not absolutely necessarily for the Drag Race franchise. This helped Rupaul reconnect to the show but also led to other queens getting to host seasons in other countries

i havent watched in years but might have to give it a go again if its improved

heathers vs boogers of S3 as well

Laganja vs adore

There's really no Jinx vs Rolaskatox. It's mostly Jinx vs Roxxxy. I love them all though :3

Sarena vs everyone. Darian Lake vs Dela. Willam vs whoever she felt like poking at.

Wow yeah I remember when they were just like, "thanks for the opportunity, bye!" Now they have a whole speech prepared lol

Iconic!

It also didn't help that it was clearly the most rushed season... like, rushed to the point that they couldn't wait to get Ru's makeup artist on set before they shot everything. Maybe that's the season they filmed in 10 days and Willam was just confusing Down Under with UK3 cos if you told me they filmed Down Under in 10 days, I'd buy it

@@PeanutsAssorted I believe down under has the shortest 'filmed to aired' timespan ever

Meh. I don't think WOW really come into it. There's a lot of influence in how TV is produced, from directors, to cast, to editors, to CEOs, to producers... I think the Australian season just feels different because their TV is different generally Everything I've seen produced in Australia has a different vibe, it's the opposite of Hollywood

So WDW owns drag culture? RPDR wasn't high art in the first season, either. Give it time.

But it also seemed like it was designed by a bunch of Americans who had no idea what Australian culture actually is. Like Ru seemed to have an idea in his mind for what Australian references were iconic and yet they are references that no actual Aussie can relate to but which Americans would probably go "lol Australians". And then things I thought for sure would be on there weren't. For example I expected Snatch Game to be entirely characters associated with Australia and New Zealand, where was anyone from Kath & Kim, Priscilla, Julia Gillard, anyone from LOTR etc? Instead most characters were actually from America or Britain and the Australian characters were either poorly done (Bindi Irwin) or downright insulting and hurtful to the person being portrayed (Lindy Chamberlain). I wish that Drag Race Down Under had been completely under the control of Australians and New Zealanders just like Drag Race Thailand was under the control of Thai producers and directors. That would have meant our culture and drag was properly represented instead of a caricature of what Americans think "Down Under" is like. You know what's way better than DRDU? House of Drag. It's actually run by Kita Mean and Anita Wiglet and it's a New Zealand drag show. And Elektra actually did super well on that drag show as well.

And now Glee people were on the Secret Celebrity one. We've come full circle.

​@@laurenwoodforde7661Who else besides Alex Newell?

Jenna Ushkowitz and kevin McHale ​@@amybess

I agree with most of these, but I'd honestly choose Ongina to represent the first era instead. She really shined the most on that season.

id say trixie and bob need to be in here somewhere.

I think Violet Chachki also changed the game looks wise

How is Sasha not there when her lipsync changed the game at the time? Everyone tried to emulate that and just couldn't do it.

tixie, laganja, ongina violet and bianca need to be somewhere in this list

True, BUT Rupaul sees something special in Symone. They were seen sharing a table together, doing red carpets and acting like genuine friends. No other queen has had this much support from Rupaul herself.

@@drakeperry667 I mean that's not what the sentiment even was. They were saying drag was becoming more mainstream, and used Symone being at the Met Gala as an example. I was pointing out Symone was not the first to go, other queens went years before her. It has nothing to do with RuPaul.

@@drakeperry667 Also Gottmik.

@@junelaananke7138 Oh honey.......it has EVERYTHING to do with RuPaul. Without RuPaul drag would still be an underground thing at gay bars that only gays and friends of gays knew about. Sometimes I wish it was back to the "good old days" of drag show at gay night clubs but "unfort" todo cambia: everything changes! Cest la Vie!

@@ronrendon No, it doesn't. The sentiment wasn't about RuPaul, it was about drag becoming mainstream, and *again*, one of the examples was Symone going to the Met Gala. Is that due to RuPaul's influence? Yes, absolutely. Could not be here without her. Does that specific sentence have anything to do with her, and her liking Symone more than other girls? No.

Also there's a requirement to have a reveal during finale lipsyncs (because producers want another Sasha moment to happen), so as queens try hard to meet the high standard that Sasha set, some focus too much on the reveal itself instead of actually lipsyncing (e.g. Asia), but Sasha is a great lipsyncer not because of her reveals but because of how she performs, so most queens, especially those who aren't strong lipsyncers in the first place, really fall flat.

@@sparo_splat couldn’t agree more with this! I also think that there are times where they focus too much on doing some new crazy never seen before reveal (again- like Asia) instead of just timing things right- like peppermint had some AMAZING reveals because of timing and performance, not because of how “revolutiony” the move was- but how/when she did them made it 100 times better and more effective

@@sparo_splat afaik they also asked for S9 queens to do reveals, no? I feel like I read that somewhere, could be wrong. But imo, the problem is that not only the show, but also the queens did not understand that the whole petal stunt wasn't the reason why Sasha won - she won because of the overall performance, the petals and emotion she delivered matched the song, and she was ready with a scissor to cut her wig if Stronger was chosen for her by luck - it's not about a random stunt, it's abt understanding the song and what you want to convey for the public. Unfortunatelly, people couldn't see past the rose petals.

You really think Peppermint had a chance without the lip sync thing? Season 12 is the only one where ALL of the finalists felt like potential winners.

Agree!! Sasha Velour is my favorite winner to this day!!

It was the best season, for me at least

and now season 9 is one of the big fan favorite seasons ever

Hated it? It was the first good season in a while lol and most people thought that

@@Juanmaligno sis reddit circa 2017-19 would tell you otherwise. People lost their shit when Shea lost

era 7 is called gagatondra

I believe that was Era 6. Era 7 I believe has started with S15 when it moved to MTV

No I agree because it’s all part of the globalification of the show. RuPaul may not have originally cast cisgender women etc, but now inclusivity is too important for the show’s longevity to be disregarded. It really diversifies the cast, giving appeal to a wider audience who may not have seen themselves in the original casts, plus gives RuPaul himself brownie points with the LGBTQ community. I think casting certain queens has changed drag itself, not just the show.

Scaredy Kat from UK season 1 was a straight cis male

@@gwiyomijessi848 no scaredy just had a girlfriend they never said straight

oh my god women can be drag queens now? this is my time to shine :)

@@gwiyomijessi848 Scared Kat is bisexual! Stop this bi erasure!

Same!

7-9 were great. 9 is arguably the best season imo

Season 6 was also my first season that I watched!

S6 and S9 are my faves. I personally enjoy S7 more than S8 tbh, the acting challenges were too much in both seasons, but I felt like the cast in S7 pulled me in more

I can definitely see them doing their own version of the ANTM US vs UK season - new queens from the US against all stars of the UK seasons. Let's just hope it wouldn't be like ANTM and be the last good season made though haha.

Can i ask what happened?

Yeah they’re talking about Sharon. But also the fact that redacted could be applied to two people is funny 🤣. Redacted season four and redacted season 12.

wait what timestamp i completely missed this lmao

@@mushroup That’s not really in this video, but it’s a lot with Sharon. And then we all know what happened with Sherry.

@@mushroup 8:55

So true!

season 7 is such an underrated season. it had a disadvantage of being after 6 and post of the challenges flopped but even then, a few challeneges we're amazing like the john waters challenge and the fall and spring fashion challenge

that shakesqueer and born naked literally haunt me still

The challenges being terrible only made it more iconic

It even Had it's own season 9 Era with a bigger budget and a new venue (the horror stream app in place of vh1)

and the same is happening with a third show in mexico, "la mas draga" with its fourth season having a greater success and feeling like the beginning of a golden era

wait why do we hate santino again

@@aishwaryasankhe6018 idk we just do

@@aishwaryasankhe6018 because he has bad taste

S11 Drag-lympics was the most incredible!! I rewatch that challenge all the time

I haven't kept up with drag race stuff recently, what happened? (I'm assuming we're talking about S.N.)

@@Hunny8ee sharon has done literally everything in the book but i think me just telling you that she did blackface to impersonate rupaul should be enough

@@Hunny8ee Dida Ritz went on a podcast and brought up Sharon calling black queens the n-word behind scenes. Bob and Monet have been open over the last few years about her racism and problematic choices. I am disappointed and upset that Sharon chooses to think that way. There's a part of me that wishes for Sharon to apologise and change for the better. But I have little to no hope since she's been behaving this way for a LONG time. Redacted doesn't seem to show consideration for others' feelings.

@@oliviawalmsley2167 sadly she went too far from the forgivable stuff. her controversies include grooming and talking a minor into hurting herself

no mention of all stars 3 though! that format was something 😵‍💫

I do believe season 13 was the start of that era with it being more pronounced as the next seasons air