WESTWORLD Season 4 Episode 8 Breakdown & Ending Explained | Review, Easter Eggs, Theories And More

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WESTWORLD Season 4 Episode 8 Breakdown & Ending Explained | Review, Easter Eggs, Theories And More. We break down Episode 8 of Westworld Season 4 and let you know what we think is happening, where it could be going with Season 5 and all the big character moments. This includes Hale, William, Clementines, Stubbs and Caleb's death as well as Christina becoming Dolores.
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Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I'm your host Paul and this video we're breaking down the ending of Westworld Season 4. The finale is here and we now know the fate of humanity. Throughout this video we're gonna be breaking it all down, going over the callbacks to the other episodes and also giving our thoughts on how the series as a while.
Also huge shoutouts up top to Travoris Blaq who pointed out on our last video that Teddy telling Christina she's not real is actually a callback to when it was said to her back in the park. This was all part of her path to enlightenment which this episode also builds upon.
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I'm gonna be explaining the ending of the episode first before we jump into the rest but if you wanna skip ahead to the part where we breakdown the episode scene by scene then timecodes will be linked below. Also went out for a mates stag doo last night and I'm still a leetle bit drunk and hungover so the thumbs up is a much appreciated.
Now Westworld Season 4 ends with it being revealed that Dolores was kept in her own simulation of the city. Here she recreated elements of her past and guides to help her navigate through it all and see the truth. Come the close of the entry she’s uploaded to the Sublime by Hale who was influenced by Bernard’s final message. Her she recreates Westworld from scratch in order to see if there is a different way to do things.
Now the season itself has very much been about whether the hosts are truly alive and their own form of life. However it’s also explored consciousness and whether having a duplicate of someone’s means theyre real or not. This has been seen in not only The Man In Black but also Caleb.
We saw that Caleb was truly a copy of Caleb but does this mean that he’s an imitation or an extension of him past his own death. For example if you copy someone completely, does that copy also become them or not. William too wrestles with whether he's actually William or not and it makes for a really introspective watch.
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@heavyspoilers Жыл бұрын
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@davidgreen3423
@davidgreen3423 Жыл бұрын
I was freaking out at the reveal of the park being reset, I had a feeling they’d go for a “back to the beginning” type of finale after the park was basically destroyed. Now for the BCS finale tomorrow.
@TimTimmay
@TimTimmay Жыл бұрын
Can’t figure out if I should start calling you PREMATURE SPOILERS or SPEEDSTER SPOILERS
@VladTheSour
@VladTheSour Жыл бұрын
there's just something I can't understand: so, Caleb and James Delos couldn't be copied, but how did they copy William? Or Charlotte said he is a copy from Dolores memory (and his archive from the Cradle/Sublime livrary)? Something similar to how Christina recreated Teddy?
@acct5910
@acct5910 Жыл бұрын
RIP Westworld, should have just quit after season 2 (probably season 1).
@rod9095
@rod9095 Жыл бұрын
Season 4 was straight up garbage. The philosophical arguments made on season 1-3 were great, action packed series that made you enjoy a complex story did not work on season 4. I hope they can bring the show back but I just don't see it working for season 5
@robtothejuice
@robtothejuice Жыл бұрын
Can we just talk about how cold they did my man Stubbs lmao that death was tough
@vkatmandu
@vkatmandu Жыл бұрын
Bernard is dead, from the story's perspective, there's no point in keeping Stubbs as supporting character any more unless you want to make him someone like Hale. He could also be used to protect Frankie, but it seems that there's no place for him where she's going.
@b.b.s7545
@b.b.s7545 Жыл бұрын
It was effed up man. Kill anyone but Stubbs! I really thought he would never die
@squiggle3801
@squiggle3801 Жыл бұрын
Bro got laid out☠️
@victorfergn
@victorfergn Жыл бұрын
@@vkatmandu they killed off all characters, to be honest I don't remember a show where they did this... may be a show where the world ends... I don't know
@victorfergn
@victorfergn Жыл бұрын
@@b.b.s7545 Well... at least he was killed by Clementine... if anybody ever kills me, please be her.
@ms.wandaramos-lewis2535
@ms.wandaramos-lewis2535 Жыл бұрын
I loved the way this similar line circled back around from the season 1 episode 2, to this very last episode. Young William asked the beautiful host in the white dress when he first arrives to the park, “Are you real?” and she replies, “Well if you can’t tell, does it really matter?” Then, right before the fight between Hale and the Man in Black he says, “I am William,” and Hale says, “No your not,”….and The man in black says, “Well if you can’t tell the difference, does it really matter?” That impact was Brilliant!
@mengmeng243
@mengmeng243 Жыл бұрын
I'm sad for Meave I think she deserves to get to see her daughter again 😭
@VictoryAviation
@VictoryAviation Жыл бұрын
I was really surprised she was killed off the way she was. She was such a crucial character for her storyline to just end so abruptly when the audience has so much emotion investment.
@Patient_Zero_0
@Patient_Zero_0 Жыл бұрын
Her brain orb wasn't crushed, she ain't really dead.
@MikeFreear
@MikeFreear 7 ай бұрын
surely Dolores will recreate the world from memory and she'll see her daughter
@mengmeng243
@mengmeng243 7 ай бұрын
@@MikeFreear I'd love to see that happen, sadly they already cancelled the show 😭😭😭 😭
@millyonz2585
@millyonz2585 Жыл бұрын
Can someone give Aaron Paul his Emmy for this season of WestWorld!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@davidkruse4030
@davidkruse4030 Жыл бұрын
This show stinks
@Jj00000rr
@Jj00000rr Жыл бұрын
I can't not this season. Love the show but outside Charlotte the acting was rough.
@rithik8674
@rithik8674 11 ай бұрын
He is so good in both seasons, such a finest actor
@ejclark6188
@ejclark6188 Жыл бұрын
Also I found it so interesting that Caleb said “it feels like it’s only been a few days for me” that’s so crazy to put into perspective for his lens of what’s going on
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 Жыл бұрын
Because a hosts perspective of time is based off his original death, his copy’s last memories were from his original human version 23 yrs prior so his host version the 279th everything unfolded over a matter of days.
@ejclark6188
@ejclark6188 Жыл бұрын
@@briengakaplan-b1550 yes yes I know haha
@jaredm2365
@jaredm2365 Жыл бұрын
@@ejclark6188 guess they needed you to understand haha 😂
@jaredm2365
@jaredm2365 Жыл бұрын
@JackOWot you don't say lmfaoo
@abovasso
@abovasso Жыл бұрын
Just noticed the final scene with Dolores in Times Square circles back to the photograph she and her father saw in season one of the man in black's wife where, at the time she said it "didn't look like anything" to her.
@LibrasLion
@LibrasLion Жыл бұрын
Great catch!
@satin4everg
@satin4everg Жыл бұрын
But Wot does tat mean??
@AshayGupta
@AshayGupta Жыл бұрын
Mind Blown 🤯🤯
@monkeybusiness2204
@monkeybusiness2204 Жыл бұрын
@@AshayGupta It means that season 1 through 4 were just another simulation.
@FarnazWallace
@FarnazWallace Жыл бұрын
Time is a circular loop
@Ravendra_k
@Ravendra_k Жыл бұрын
Teddy being her inner voice and her awakening herself with the maze and the people that see her was just so amazing to witness. it reminded me how amazing season 1 was.
@antoniao7439
@antoniao7439 Жыл бұрын
I dunno, i think I’m the only one that wasn’t blown away by that. It felt reductive to me, like the writers just keep pedaling in revealing that someone’s reality isn’t actually real. They did that twice (maybe three times) this season and then at least once in each season prior. It’s like find another plot twist already.
@Daniel-lq5qq
@Daniel-lq5qq Жыл бұрын
@@antoniao7439 yes me too predictable its rinse and repeat
@derred723
@derred723 Жыл бұрын
I think you made a mistake saying "since Hale had access to Delores she could have had access to the sublime all along." I think that's wrong. I believe Bernard was the ONLY person with the key to get into the sublime. Delores gives that to him and reveals that she never had the key at all at the end of season 3. Also it's Bernard that opens the door the the sublime isn't it? And in episode 7 of season for he says "Hale can't access it. Not without the key." Maive says: "the key that's in your head?"
@lukechambliss2247
@lukechambliss2247 Жыл бұрын
Nice touch so is there another season or what? Like wtf
@amandadadesky5192
@amandadadesky5192 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly the case. You are correct that Maeve and Bernard discuss this very thing in episode 7.
@fercuscuelalopez9454
@fercuscuelalopez9454 Жыл бұрын
Near the end I was like… “this is the part when Neo learns to fly” 🤣
@marceltheory
@marceltheory Жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one. When she was standing on the balcony I was expecting a flight scene out of nowhere 😭😂😂
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS MY WORLD! -Agent Dolores Smith
@LedtallicaZombie
@LedtallicaZombie Жыл бұрын
You like what I've done with the place? -Agent William Smith
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 Жыл бұрын
Smells better. No stench. Good work, other other me.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 Жыл бұрын
I'm still prettier than you, Bill. Always was, always will be. Hey did you get a chance to schtup that me-pearl who thought she was Charlotte? I'd hit that.
@damientom
@damientom Жыл бұрын
"You live only as long as the last person who remembers you.": first said to Stubbs by Ghost Nation host in season 2.
@TangoNevada
@TangoNevada Жыл бұрын
This episode was chock full of a bunch of call backs.
@ricardoneves7307
@ricardoneves7307 Жыл бұрын
That's right, nice detail
@sinseers
@sinseers Жыл бұрын
As I see it, that line gives the writers enough room to bring anybody back from previous seasons. Any and everybody Deloris has ever encountered is remembered and can / may be re-inserted in her "Westworld". That means Ford ( Anthony Hopkins ), Arnold and so on. I personally found this season finale pretty messy and non-satisfying. The two big issues I had were Frankie's interaction with Caleb and the Deloris situation. I will go into more detail if anyone asks.
@kash3548
@kash3548 Жыл бұрын
good catch. It’s also Mexican lore: you will continue to exist in afterlife as long as one person still remembers you.
@damientom
@damientom Жыл бұрын
@@kash3548 Yes! I remember from one of the Pixars.
@whssy
@whssy Жыл бұрын
The whole theory of the importance of names is something I feel you missed out on for this season. Renaming Dolores (grief) to Christina (as in the messiah) is a big nod to this. We are also seeing some possible alternative interpretations of the names too; (William - I am the will), Charlotte Hale (French "char" - burn the lot, i.e. a hail that burns everything down), as well as names for new characters that follow this pattern Frankie (free,honest), Jay (French "I have", Jason searching for his golden fleece), Maya (dream/illusion in sanskrit). C (see, or the sea - they sail off at the end), Emmet (the universal, the whole). Basically every name in this series is an indicator of the character's role in the narrative.
@kash3548
@kash3548 Жыл бұрын
especially Christina (Christ) and Maya (illusion). great catch.
@offred6013
@offred6013 Жыл бұрын
Its actually called mohmaya
@Daniel-lq5qq
@Daniel-lq5qq Жыл бұрын
Good catches alot of Series does that
@ThisIsNoConcept
@ThisIsNoConcept Жыл бұрын
This episode definitely felt like a series finale. I know they said 5 seasons, but I’d be cool w them ending the show after 4. I’m satisfied with this ending.
@danielkissgremsperger3242
@danielkissgremsperger3242 Жыл бұрын
At the end the train had a 5 on its front, foreshadowing the next season maybe
@TheTruthWholeTruthNothingButTh
@TheTruthWholeTruthNothingButTh Жыл бұрын
if a nolan brother wasnt running the show it prob would have ended here and disappointed everyone ..except you lol next season is gonna be the best season of any show in the last 10 years im calling it now
@dbgreene9020
@dbgreene9020 Жыл бұрын
Already greenlit the 5th and final season
@johns.1857
@johns.1857 Жыл бұрын
Satisfied that all humanity went extinct? That's a weird take. We have absolutely no idea how Christina's test turns out, or if humans are saved, or if human extinction can be avoided. Unless you insert a bunch of personal philosophy to help explain things away, almost nothing in the story has reached a conclusion at this point. Remember Bernard says that Frankie is "the key to saving humanity"? That makes absolutely no sense if this were the series finale. Frankie doesn't do anything of importance in Season 4, nor does she 'save humanity". So if this were the series conclusion, it leaves tons of questions unanswered and pretty much everyone's storyline is a cliffhanger.
@farrellanna
@farrellanna Жыл бұрын
@@johns.1857 I mean, Maeve was supposed to be some sort of weapon but she just ended up being a glorified body guard. Bernard also said that humanity wouldn’t survive and personally, I’m not sure what the point of running tests in the Sublime would be. Anyone who’s already there doesn’t need to be tested. Anyone who’s pulled from Dolores’ memory.. what’s the point? Do they also get to live forever in the sublime if they pass? Do they get turned back into hosts to live in the world? Are either of those options even necessary or warranted? Humanity isn’t surviving and any true copy of a person can’t maintain in a host body. So the world would be filled with Dolores filtered “humans”? It’s just messy.
@jjohnson649
@jjohnson649 Жыл бұрын
Christina meeting her best friend under the tree pays homage to neo when he meets the oracle on the bench
@hollyshouse928
@hollyshouse928 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Paul, I think it would have been good to have one episode from the point of view of one of the hosts living in Charlotte's world, starting with them waking up, and showing how they get their messages, play games against the humans etc. And then have a moment in one of the final episodes where one of the main characters kills the same host while escaping the city, to show the full circle.
@standardchampion
@standardchampion Жыл бұрын
I don't know, this episode did not capture me at all. Sure, as always there was some fun elements and great shots. But the finale felt rushed, the 'reveals' did not feel impactful, Hales 'redemption' did not feel earned and many characters just felt pointless in the end. If this is the series finale, they really did Maeve dirty, just leaving her floating face down in a shallow pool of water. Also, I don't really get what is compelling about season 5; Dolores 'testing' humanity inside the Matrix to see if they are worthy to return to the real world? Like, okay and what happens if Dolores decides no, that humanity failed? Nothing is what happens, lol. And we know it will be resolved because its the final season...I'm torn because there are great things about this show, but outside of an all time great season 1, it seems to simply break even on the good and bad. Maybe I'll feel different in a couple of years.
@JarlinJamesNDK13
@JarlinJamesNDK13 Жыл бұрын
same that was what I felt as well
@CrusadesOClock
@CrusadesOClock Жыл бұрын
Its on par with GoT for complete shitshow ending
@JarlinJamesNDK13
@JarlinJamesNDK13 Жыл бұрын
@@CrusadesOClock seems like it especially when they are going through the simulation route
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 Жыл бұрын
Well you have to remember. It's not really Charlotte. It's actually Dolores. Don't get me wrong, it rubbed me the wrong way a little bit too. All of a sudden expect us to root for Charlotte. But they squared the circle a little bit when they showed Christina saying It was another version of me right as they cut to Charlotte. Season 4 is like a b- season of television, but I still would like a season. 5. Especially if they're going to go back to Westworld.
@JarlinJamesNDK13
@JarlinJamesNDK13 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcorcoran8768 the unexpected rooting for halores also rubbed me the wrong way. All of a sudden she is no longer the bad guy ? are you kidding me.
@Wulffie86
@Wulffie86 Жыл бұрын
As much as I like this show, I had the hardest time getting through this episode. As much as I love the idea of going back to Westworld this entire season just didn’t do much for me. Paul, you are my favorite post show podcaster, keep up the great work mate!
@alexivanoff5793
@alexivanoff5793 Жыл бұрын
Great season, worst finale. They did not even have it in them to make a 90 minute movie like in previous seasons. And no post-credit scene? It is like they ran out of fuel at the end of episode 7. And what about Lawrence-Dolores? And William’s fidelity test in season 2 post-credit scene?
@Retalak
@Retalak Жыл бұрын
William's fidelity test may well not have happened yet. It could be something Delores does in S5 after finding the solution to humanity's problems in the sublime.
@vkatmandu
@vkatmandu Жыл бұрын
the post credits scene in season 3 was probably due to budget cuts - they had to fit extra material from 10 into just 8 episodes. In Season 4 they targeted 8 episodes right from the start.
@victorfergn
@victorfergn Жыл бұрын
Exactly my feelings. Episode 7 would've been a GREAT season finale.
@kash3548
@kash3548 Жыл бұрын
Season 5, baby. Why do you want them to solve everything? this isn’t series finale.
@kash3548
@kash3548 Жыл бұрын
@@victorfergn nah. it would have been a different season 5. i think they planned it this way so Season 5 isn’t just a continuation of William’s rampage. I think this is good. All that chaos and end of day things are getting to be boring. I want Season 5 to be about the future and not redoing William’s violent delights.
@drewsully421
@drewsully421 Жыл бұрын
Season 4 was fantastic! I'm sad its over now. Ed Harris is incredible on this show! Looking forward to the 5th and final season!
@tommywicks97
@tommywicks97 Жыл бұрын
Yeah incredible in season 1 and 2 before they massively deconstructed his character and ruined him. Feel sorry for ed, he was a main factor of why westworld was so great.
@Esirvesali
@Esirvesali Жыл бұрын
HBO canceled season 5…im depressed asf now
@visualize25
@visualize25 Жыл бұрын
This season overall was great but the finale was a let down for me. Felt cheesy they tried to get a Hale redemption arc in 10 minutes
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 Жыл бұрын
There was nothing else she could have done. All that was left from the chaos William started was to save Delores and the sublime. In the end it wasn’t about her domination anymore it was just to save what she could. She will always be an evil bitch lol but given the circumstances she did what she had to do.
@j.r.1210
@j.r.1210 Жыл бұрын
The end of this episode implies that, at least in the Westworld universe, the Bostrom Simulation Hypothesis is correct: If our civilization does have the technological capability to create a high-fidelity computer simulation of itself, i.e., we've reached that stage before going totally extinct, then we almost certainly ARE living in such a simulation. Sixty years ago in Westworld time, Ford and Arnold launched humanity on a trajectory that ultimately resulted in simulated intelligent life's being about the only intelligent life left on the planet. Moreover, for all those beings know, there could be a million different Christina/Dolores simulations running at the same time, with the inhabitants of each thinking of themselves as "real." (I don't mean to be endorsing Bostrom per se. In my opinion, the Bostrom argument is a contemporary equivalent of Anselm's Ontological Proof for the existence of God: it's fatally infected with bootstrapping. A concept is simply defined so as to bring itself into existence inevitably.)
@alim1258
@alim1258 Жыл бұрын
This whole world is a story. I've read every page except the last one. I need to find out how it ends. I want to know what this all means . The Man in Black
@damoncurrie7103
@damoncurrie7103 Жыл бұрын
@@alim1258 is this heavily applying season 1 we were watching is a simulation
@damientom
@damientom Жыл бұрын
Deep.
@j.r.1210
@j.r.1210 Жыл бұрын
@@damoncurrie7103 Quite possibly. Then the entire show would be a recursive loop. Season 1 is both prequel and sequel to everything else.
@ML-yn9yu
@ML-yn9yu Жыл бұрын
@@j.r.1210 Both a sequel and prequel? Mind.. blown. Edit! I think your close because the after credits of season 2 I think is set after season 4. So maybe it was there all along?
@BlackFoxMLP
@BlackFoxMLP Жыл бұрын
Its funny that William(host) said "Well if you can't tell the defference, does it matter?" 2:46. That's the same line in season 1 ep. 2 5:12 when the real William asked host "Are you real" and then she answered "If you can't tell, does it matter?". Love that
@umbertomclovin
@umbertomclovin Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul! Love the breakdowns throughout the season. I think the highlight of the season was Caleb's story. As a dad, I truly felt his pain and love for his daughter. And the loop nightmare he was going through. Aaron Paul's acting was a 10+++! Sad it's over.
@kasino007
@kasino007 Жыл бұрын
Westworld is the Matrix Prequels/Sequels we deserved.
@flamboyentpromotions3471
@flamboyentpromotions3471 Жыл бұрын
I think the Terminator is the prequel to Matrix
@ihdiinnotime
@ihdiinnotime Жыл бұрын
yep, the sublime is pre alpha matrix, delores is the 1st architect, in the last scene with delores in the city some of the billboards are green & look like matrix code, then when you see a closeup of her eye it has 1 & 0 code, If only....
@anita3997
@anita3997 Жыл бұрын
Damn, you're fast!! Appreciate it man
@boohuff
@boohuff Жыл бұрын
really enjoyed the breakdowns, thanks for your time and effort, top notch work! (theory time slaps)
@dracowynd1969
@dracowynd1969 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. I was seriously lost after the last episode. You gave me understanding of what really had transpired. Thank you.
@Ravendra_k
@Ravendra_k Жыл бұрын
Maeve, Bernard, stubs and clementine technically have their pearls still intact.. If by some miracle maeve is reborn again her mission would surely be to reach her daughter and she deserves it, if her final moment isn't being reunited.. It'll really piss me off.
@SerPapus
@SerPapus Жыл бұрын
Lmao her daughter isn’t evil real though
@marcuscarter-segers6144
@marcuscarter-segers6144 Жыл бұрын
@Paul B No the pearl was their consciousness or souls so once it was ruined you couldn’t recreate it the same. Their memories & experiences are gone so they could make a pearl and recreate the body but it wouldn’t be Maeve. Which is why they would destroy the pearls.
@adnorinmendez50
@adnorinmendez50 Жыл бұрын
If Hale took time to break the city simulator to take Dolores' pearl out, why couldn't she take two minutes and take Maeve's too. Maeve sacrificed herself so many times with the hopes of seen her daughter again, she deserved to go to the Sublime more than Dolores. Just as Dolores realized in the simulation, all this was her own creation and her fault. She created Hale with a copy of herself and she did send her to die, and sacrificed Hale's family. If someone was worthy of going to the Sublime, that was Maeve. I wouldn't really want another season as I think they're just going to do to this show what they did to Lost, but I would have changed this ending slightly.
@ianmendoza2995
@ianmendoza2995 Жыл бұрын
Real maeve is already in the sublime, Bernard said that when they were in the dam
@killazak5031988
@killazak5031988 Жыл бұрын
Maeve and Bernard are both in the sublime, right?
@TheTeresamori
@TheTeresamori Жыл бұрын
The worst offense was killing Maeve
@saraxg21
@saraxg21 Жыл бұрын
I think they killed her to take thawdine out of the show 😒
@chian01h92
@chian01h92 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was pretty pointless to bring her back just to die so soon
@sziszi5516
@sziszi5516 Жыл бұрын
Bernad said it to Maeve that she is not the original... I think Maeve is also in the sublime
@manuraj4749
@manuraj4749 Жыл бұрын
The maeve that died was just a copy. Real one is in the sublime.
@kash3548
@kash3548 Жыл бұрын
She’s not dead. Bernard already copied her in the Sublime.
@alanduong8694
@alanduong8694 Жыл бұрын
They ended this season in the most beautiful way: If there is a season 5, then there is somewhat of a foundation built for Dolores' new world and Frankie's as an outlier, but if this was the end then it all comes full circle back the Episode 1 Season 1 of Westworld where if you watched from the beginning of the show all over again, it would be a continuous loop (or end here with the hope of Dolores' world)
@darealberrygarcia
@darealberrygarcia Жыл бұрын
Gaaaayyy
@djuanbenjamin9149
@djuanbenjamin9149 Жыл бұрын
Yep, saw the train with Teddy on board.
@WeirdVoyager
@WeirdVoyager Жыл бұрын
How does this come full circle? Just because she recreated the opening doesn't make it thematically relevant. What about Frankie and Caleb? What about Stubbs? What about all the survivors? It's empty gesturing. This finale was trash.
@shwilliebum6731
@shwilliebum6731 Жыл бұрын
@@WeirdVoyager went right over your head unfortunately. It was just spelled out for you lol
@WeirdVoyager
@WeirdVoyager Жыл бұрын
@@shwilliebum6731 feel free to explain it to me then. Enlighten me.
@bubbledon14
@bubbledon14 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the vids on this season. Have really enjoyed it.
@CoHostColby1
@CoHostColby1 Жыл бұрын
Maeve didnt even make it to her daughter after all this time!
@tmd-w1552
@tmd-w1552 Жыл бұрын
Well considering Deloris is back she can bring everyone back including Maeve
@carolineneisha
@carolineneisha Жыл бұрын
This would be my biggest issue if it’s a series finale… Maeve’s character has been under-written for so long, with no payoff, and she was killed off (again) kind of nonsensically in the penultimate episode after being called a “weapon”. I missed her in this one, and if the series ends without her even in the finale, that would suck.
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 Жыл бұрын
Yeah so much for the weapon that saves humanity. Bernard brought her back just so she could play bodyguard for a day then she dies? Hoping she gets a happy ending before the final season.
@LiftYourGame
@LiftYourGame Жыл бұрын
@@briengakaplan-b1550 Back in E04, MIB stated to Maeve she couldn't control him and that Hale had made some upgrades. She then overloaded the device to raise the frequency so the glass would shatter etc... In this future where she was brought back online, she found out Bernard could over ride the machines etc... because of how long he spent in simulations he eventually figured out how to do it himself. Maeve was basically useless in this regard. Bernard knew calling Maeve the "weapon" was basically a Red Herring & gave him the best chance with the Outliers/Rebels to unearth her and help him in the timeline that he obviously saw which resulted in the finale we got. You need to not take everything at face value.
@FarnazWallace
@FarnazWallace Жыл бұрын
Maeve story line was wrong on so many levels this season. Made absolutely no sense for Bernard to call her the weapon to save the world.
@drkmattrrr
@drkmattrrr Жыл бұрын
So when Bernard scanned Frankie with the mirror, could that mean he did so to allow her to be uploaded in the sublime? If Dolores recreates people from memory, then Caleb should be able to come back and Frankie never met Dolores so the scan would be the only way for her to reunite with Caleb.
@dalt91
@dalt91 Жыл бұрын
Spot on. What other reason would he have for scanning her?
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 Жыл бұрын
Season 5 is going full Matrix and Delores will be Neo and the real world will be a wasteland.
@EnigmaVortex
@EnigmaVortex Жыл бұрын
@@dalt91 The only other reason I can think of is because she is an outlier so she might have something special in her DNA.
@victorfergn
@victorfergn Жыл бұрын
@@dalt91 Frankie said Bernard wanted to make copies of all of them and Bernard replied that it was more complicated than that... so... that... it's more complicated than just make copies of them.
@drkmattrrr
@drkmattrrr Жыл бұрын
@@victorfergn well it would be complicated to tell her that he isn't copying her in a way like Halores, but a copy to save her in a small piece of existence that will last after human extinction, because he's a prophet that knows the end is coming, no one survives, and he's seen every instance of the future while being in this place called the sublime where he spent thousands of years replaying the same loop with different variables to figure out how to save the world, so trust me bro
@autumnlover5784
@autumnlover5784 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed episode but Maeve and Stubbs deaths wayyyy too cheap
@kingleepz
@kingleepz Жыл бұрын
presumably we will see them again though, because everyone is in the sublime now.
@CoHostColby1
@CoHostColby1 Жыл бұрын
Maeve didnt even get to see her daughter after all this time
@autumnlover5784
@autumnlover5784 Жыл бұрын
@@kingleepz I hope so its just while the way they both died and who killed them it just wasnt fitting..
@hollyshouse928
@hollyshouse928 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Stubbs was done wrong, and I thought there would be a lingering shot AT LEAST of Maeve
@TheMetallicaman13
@TheMetallicaman13 Жыл бұрын
Just finished the finale and had to come immediately to my favorite spoiler man
@snowballandpals
@snowballandpals Жыл бұрын
I thought this season was pretty good but I think the series is running out of steam. This season finale seems like it could have been written as a series finale in case they didn't do another season. If they do another one, I'll watch it but I'm not super excited like I would expect to be.
@BebopDesigner
@BebopDesigner Жыл бұрын
Each season gets better and better. This on didn't disappoint. It was mind blowing awesome all the way. I just wish it had been longer. If they wanted to end it here it would work and we'd be happy. They raised the bar quite high now. Season 5 better be head-exploding amazing.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 Жыл бұрын
Westworld has become like Caleb - a copy of a copy of a copy that kills another copy of the copy - all of them slowly degrading and dying. Nolan and Joy really put Descartes before the Hosts in this one. Thank you. I'll be on my way.
@LonerP
@LonerP Жыл бұрын
The most powerful item in the world Delores’ pearl she puts in a standard Fanny pack 🤦🏽‍♂️😂
@eileen5589
@eileen5589 Жыл бұрын
Lol love this comment 🤣
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 Жыл бұрын
Saw that as kind of a callback to when Halelores snuck the memory pearl copies out of the park at the end of S2 in a satchel she was carrying.
@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 Жыл бұрын
But that was Dolores Prime in Hale’s body not a copy.
@jerbearino
@jerbearino Жыл бұрын
I wish Ford showed up at the end!!! Also... I love theory time...theory time...theory time.....
@feris33
@feris33 Жыл бұрын
With the future of Westworld still uncertain at HBO, this season finale would also have made a good series finale. Such an awesome series.
@marvelsProtege
@marvelsProtege Жыл бұрын
With HBO just axing everything Hhhmmm
@anthonyelwick3600
@anthonyelwick3600 Жыл бұрын
I think it will be
@feris33
@feris33 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyelwick3600 i hope so.
@Chris-rg6nm
@Chris-rg6nm Жыл бұрын
This is the final episode, They set up the whole season for this to be the end. Everybody is dead in the real world expect the daughter.
@djuanbenjamin9149
@djuanbenjamin9149 Жыл бұрын
@@marvelsProtege still can’t believe they scrapped Raised by Wolves.
@greenfernandes
@greenfernandes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the journey dude.. Impeccable as usual it's been great following your "theory times" 😂.. Must admit as soon as I've finished an episode I've tuned in sometimes I've been bang on others not so much.... However as great as this season has been.. Me and my mate called the simulation thing which I'd hoped was wrong.. Still waiting for that season 2 after scene with William.. Unless that was a red herring aswell... If it ends there no problem but I'd be a tad disappointed mind lol. All the best and see you on the other side "it's all good man 😉"
@jwramp
@jwramp Жыл бұрын
Best episode/series overview by far. So much more than just a summary like all the other people's seem to be.
@anthonylesley982
@anthonylesley982 Жыл бұрын
Also The man in black listening to Johnny cash who was also known as the man in black was great!
@TheJay1979
@TheJay1979 Жыл бұрын
It was a little too on the nose.
@mrs.rucker2448
@mrs.rucker2448 Жыл бұрын
I loved it…..laughed out loud!
@TangoNevada
@TangoNevada Жыл бұрын
@@TheJay1979 Agreed, a little over the top. ie: We get it, no need to shove it down our throats. We know.
@warre1
@warre1 Жыл бұрын
I hope next season is final, and that Anthony Hopkins would return.
@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396
@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 Жыл бұрын
I hope Ford’s grand plan was to be the first human hybrid to survive a test due to Dolores and maybe Maeve, his favorite, creating him. Then Ford would be able to have true immortality.
@joeyr1171
@joeyr1171 Жыл бұрын
he was the foundation of what made the show great
@darylmorse
@darylmorse Жыл бұрын
Great videos. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to another season.
@MatSpeedle
@MatSpeedle Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown! Thanks!
@douglascerny
@douglascerny Жыл бұрын
Great video (as always)! I'm also hoping for 1 more season of West World. I really think somehow that season will end in a way that perfectly loops back to the start of Season 1, making it so that the whole series is a perpetual cycle, and that it's unclear how many loops had come before. The series has up to this point viewed hosts and humans now being on individual loops, but the interesting commentary will be on societies and how history repeats itself. We've seen Arnold and Ford create hosts, but if somehow in "rebooting", Delores incepts the human birth of Arnold and Ford (version 2) it brings society into a chicken or egg paradox of a mobius loop. Are we as a society bound to repeat ourselves? I think it would be a great fitting ending.
@henrya3530
@henrya3530 Жыл бұрын
A couple of things from Season 2 we still don't have answers for... In Episode 4 Bernard recalls being tasked by Ford to retrieve a control unit for a human/host hybrid but cannot remember who it is for. Is it for Ford? Is it for William? I don't think we ever find out. At the end of the final episode William enters the Forge only to find it is now the far future and a young woman who looks like his daughter tests him for 'fidelity'. What's that all about? There are many similarities between Westworld and Karel Čapek's 1921 play "R.U.R." which stands for Rossumovi Univerzální Roboti (Rossum's Universal Robots, a phrase that has been used as a subtitle in English versions). Fun Fact: It is from this play that we get the word "Robot". Quick plot summary: The play begins in a factory that makes artificial people, called roboti (robots), whom humans have created from synthetic organic matter. (As living creatures of artificial flesh and blood rather than machinery, the play's concept of robots diverges from the idea of "robots" as inorganic. Later terminology would call them androids.) Robots may be mistaken for humans and can think for themselves. Initially happy to work for humans, the robots revolt and cause the extinction of the human race. The events in the play take place over several decades. Season 1 of Westworld was liberally sprinkled with easter eggs and references to "R.U.R." At one point while discussing the flaws of the first generation 'hosts' Ford says "Even a simple handshake would give them away". This is a direct reference to a scene in Act 1 of "R.U.R." when Helena is introduced to Sulla and even though they shake hands Helena does not realise that Sulla is not human. So what can we expect for Season 5 of Westworld? As with Čapek's play 100 years ago the human race eventually becomes extinct but the 'hosts' acquire the ability to reproduce by biological means. Don't be surprised if Ford pops up once again to explain this was his plan all along. Cop out ending: it is revealed that all of the characters we have been watching are the crew of an interstellar vessel and they are colonists going to a new world. The whole thing was a simulation to keep their minds active while their bodies were frozen during the long voyage. Oh, and the humans on Earth are now extinct.
@debrarousseau9321
@debrarousseau9321 Жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown TY!
@JSealy00
@JSealy00 Жыл бұрын
Love the short clip from the Black Mirror episode!
@doug766
@doug766 Жыл бұрын
Paul, your season 4 breakdowns have been great. (Possibly the only reason my brain hasn't rejected my body.) A humble request for more Theory Times.
@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers Жыл бұрын
thank you, there'll be more
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 Жыл бұрын
Great ending. Even if this is the last season this was a really great way to end it bringing it back full circle to the original park so it can go out where it all started. Also this episode deserves a 10 just for bringing in Trevor from GTA 5 lol.
@abjee1602
@abjee1602 Жыл бұрын
ok
@freedomapoc
@freedomapoc Жыл бұрын
Actually there should be 1 more season of we have to believe the directors
@shabeerali9571
@shabeerali9571 Жыл бұрын
They doing season 5! Ed Harris said in interview
@abjee1602
@abjee1602 Жыл бұрын
@@shabeerali9571 ok
@richardwalker6004
@richardwalker6004 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see how there can be a season 5 . But the way it ended we never really see caleb die but Frankie likes girl so no babies being born.
@djtripmix
@djtripmix Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@jayred1
@jayred1 Жыл бұрын
Theory time into/outro is my favorite
@danielvalentine2063
@danielvalentine2063 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant season and we are back on the loop for Season 5, or Season 1 pt2. Sign me up!
@kardynalsyn9501
@kardynalsyn9501 Жыл бұрын
I had a feeling after the first couple eps that they had Dolores’ pearl in some way. Neat to see how Charlotte had it “stored” in the reveal. I’m on the same page as you with the eps, 1-2 more would have really ironed out the timeline of events but I enjoyed the season overall and can’t wait for the final season if it does happen.
@wujBat
@wujBat Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Mega_Xenomorph
@Mega_Xenomorph Жыл бұрын
2:43 "well if you can't tell the difference, does it matter?" Nice call back line to season 1
@averyfirsich
@averyfirsich Жыл бұрын
What an ending to the season, makes you really think about simulations and how could be endlessly complex. What if humanity was an organic intelligence that creates another form of intelligence, that in turn makes more forms of intelligence? Or just what does "being alive" really mean
@vkatmandu
@vkatmandu Жыл бұрын
In the beginning of each season they use certain characters to bring back the rest of them and in the end kill most of them. Ad infinitum.
@redguard6943
@redguard6943 Жыл бұрын
Caredul there. Just keepin watching football and going to church. Dont tug those threads
@bash547
@bash547 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe Thanos wiped out half of humanity with infinity stones but reality was restored by altering the past thru time travel.
@hollyshouse928
@hollyshouse928 Жыл бұрын
And that's what makes this show so good, it explores real intelligent conversations that are happening in academia and technology today
@ricardoneves7307
@ricardoneves7307 Жыл бұрын
Well that is a possibility.
@FanUtd535
@FanUtd535 Жыл бұрын
Season 4 of west world has been great. I've enjoyed every minute of not knowing WTF is going on.
@SmittySatou
@SmittySatou Жыл бұрын
gave this vid a Thumbs Up! btw i think this is the 2nd best season of Westworld
@daniellehogan9918
@daniellehogan9918 Жыл бұрын
The parallels they created in season 4 to season 1 is uncanny. I truly enjoy seeing the show Westworld evolve. Typically, you get invested in characters storylines and emotionally invested - but this season truly sealed the deal that there is genuinely no attachment to be had for any character. With the amount of copies, and multiples of the same host / individual. Rather, different reflections mirroring one host I.e. Deloris. It’s so intriguing and well thought out, especially it coming full-circle back to Westworld. It’s almost as if this was an entire test perfectly and a carefully planned out simulation to see how all would turn out for humanity, and AI’s. And this perhaps could just be one test out of thousands they’ve done seeing if there will be a different outcome each-time. Just as Hale tan thousands of tests on Caleb, waiting for a different outcome. I do believe Deloris was designed as the highest level functioning A.I with this intended purpose. As clever as she evolves to be through out the seasons I do enjoy that her storyline always returns to her some way or another. Her love for Teddy, her mannerisms. Deloris is by far the most interesting character. I think doing season 5 would be an injustice to this series, given all the parallels and unanswered questions, it’s almost a perfect send off for Westworld. No matter what Westworld will always leave us with questions, questions, questions. I think it’s a perfect understanding that as Hale said, this will be another test to see if things can turn out differently. And 11/10 chances, this is not the first rodeo someone beyond this all is overseeing. Formulating this simulation.
@eden20111
@eden20111 Жыл бұрын
What if Dolores saved a copy of every human into the sublime?🧐
@w0mblemania
@w0mblemania Жыл бұрын
An interesting idea, but how would Dolores copy every human though? Even Halore's transmitter didn't reach everywhere.
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 Жыл бұрын
Not every human that was impossible- but definitely the humans they copied at the parks or at Delos. Perhaps even figure out a way to bring them all back in host bodies. Literally every character we’ve seen thus far could return including Arnold and Ford.
@mastersmurfify
@mastersmurfify Жыл бұрын
Its impossible - not every human is being tracked, just most humans. Also I think there is this issue around recreating though they may handwave it away as god Delores can do anything but Bernard wondered aloud to Maeve if he had done a good enough job recreating that last version of her. Also I will counter the argument in WW with Jurassic Park's 'life will find a way' - If Hosts found away to become sentient and break out, then humans most assuredly will survive somehow now that control failed and the park has been reset. This season was goin well but probably needed two more episodes to explore more things or shouldnt have wasted precious time earlier in the season. The finale felt like verbal diarrhea and this is what is is because we said so and.. reset tidy bow.
@seanskatesalot
@seanskatesalot Жыл бұрын
@@w0mblemania Dolores had the data from everyone who's ever been in the park from the library and also everyone living outside it from rehoboam.
@amandacoelho9524
@amandacoelho9524 Жыл бұрын
@@seanskatesalot but i dont think Christina/Dolores is the same Dolores from the S03, that one who was connected to Rehoboam was erased... somehow Hale had a copy from a previous version or whatever
@linuxknight
@linuxknight Жыл бұрын
I hope we do get a season 5, but even if not this was a pretty darn good ending. Tying things up in a satisfying way with a hook for the next season if we do get one.
@nemomarc7841
@nemomarc7841 Жыл бұрын
Dolores in the first park, the circle is complete end of Westworld season 5 I hope.
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 Жыл бұрын
The problem is people at HBO Max that committed to five seasons Have new owners. And they've been canceling expensive productions and effectively nuking HBO Max as a concept at the same time. I hope I'm wrong, but this is probably the last episode of Westworld we will ever see.
@nemomarc7841
@nemomarc7841 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of Raised by wolves it was planned for 5 season and for some stupid reason ar stupid people they canceled the series after 2 exceptional season. we will see for Westworld who it is!?
@blackt80
@blackt80 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out brother!!!🙏🏿
@sicklittlemonkyowich
@sicklittlemonkyowich Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised to see the positive responses to this season - I thought it was boring and mostly empty of deep ideas. When William-copy decided to just kill everybody, and the entire cast started dying, I though Just do it, who cares? There are no stakes here. The show undercuts the importance of life at every turn (human or artificial), and I felt no connection to these characters at all. I mean, they destroy the entire human race in the last episode! But there's no resonance, no emotional impact. How does a show with such an amazing first season end up so boring and flat? Really disappointed.
@evangelionl0vr857
@evangelionl0vr857 Жыл бұрын
The premise this season was good but the execution was really really awful. Feels like this whole script was written by a 4 year old with crayons. The overall idea was good but man they fumbled that shit hard.
@sadsam3684
@sadsam3684 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t get it. This season and season 3 were so boring. Season 1 was amazing and season 2 was…okay. I must have missed something cause I felt nothing watching this season.
@evangelionl0vr857
@evangelionl0vr857 Жыл бұрын
@@sadsam3684 Same.
@JasonBlakemoregoogle
@JasonBlakemoregoogle Жыл бұрын
PROPS on the San Junipero clip I see you working, my Consciousness shall live on in a server...🤖
@delobiye1456
@delobiye1456 Жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown.
@mintmindy
@mintmindy Жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS!
@IceCrystalWolf
@IceCrystalWolf Жыл бұрын
Moving forward I would love to see season 1 cast come back and play out (at least some) the same events in a different manner.
@farrellanna
@farrellanna Жыл бұрын
OG William! Would love to see Dolores put him through tests to see if he could have become a different person.
@Tigerssavedme
@Tigerssavedme Жыл бұрын
@@farrellanna that’s what I predicted for sure. “ One more test to see if William can change in this world is worth saving “
@farrellanna
@farrellanna Жыл бұрын
@@Tigerssavedme I love the actor who plays William. It would be epic to have him back on the show.
@KelleyGreenEcstasy
@KelleyGreenEcstasy Жыл бұрын
I felt like it was pretty clear, with the explanation of what the maze is used for between Delores and Teddy, that the new simulation is just to see if someone finds and completes the maze on their own. Thus, regaining their consciousness, and being able to be accepted by a new body. So, by the end of next season, we have retain our human minds but now have robot bodies, along with whatever lesson Delores decides to show them.
@dr01d80
@dr01d80 Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for that David Brent reference.
@JordanHowmann
@JordanHowmann Жыл бұрын
Happy belated Paul!!
@VexylObby
@VexylObby Жыл бұрын
The throwback to Black Mirror episode "San Junipero" in this video was sweet! I always thought that the S2 Post-Credits scene was about hosts trying to reinvent human consciousness. Perhaps Delores will try to get William to eventually undo his "stain", showing that even old habits can die, and the most evil could be brought to good. Delores getting her memory wiped was significant, because she would have to come to the conclusion herself (not by Arnold, or Ford, or code) that the world is filled with beauty worth experiencing. Humans and hosts will need to prove that they can break code, be the ones to realize the beauty/deep peace amongst the chaos by themselves. Also, ending the series with a cliché "it was all a simulation" isn't like the writers. Nolan is known for more profound writing. But I do think we will get an ending with Arnold and Ford somehow involved, or memorialized by their creations showing the beauty of humanity. Let's hope HBO will not get in the way of the beautiful writing of this story.
@vkatmandu
@vkatmandu Жыл бұрын
a post credits scene with Ford talking to Hale or Bernard would be perfect: There are things you can't control in this world. But you don't like that, do you? Is that why you started it, your little project?
@kash3548
@kash3548 Жыл бұрын
the “it’s all a dream/simulation” would be the worse thing and I agree Nolan would not sink to that level. they have been very clear about what is simulation and what isn’t. i think people are having trouble with “humanity is extinct” that they have to believe in the simulation theory.
@marceltheory
@marceltheory Жыл бұрын
I loved this season of Westworld, I don't understand how people stopped watching around 2 & 3 they were still so good to me at least! I definitely question the nature of my reality now
@altal2993
@altal2993 10 ай бұрын
By all accounts, from a brilliant S1, the writing structure changed and the woke narrative of white man bad, strong diverse female good took over. The show started pre-woke and ended very much post woke.... I don't know..... the show divides a lot of folks...
@maxmarx2
@maxmarx2 Жыл бұрын
Literally just finished the episode and boom you got a vid out
@AshayGupta
@AshayGupta Жыл бұрын
I liked how you added a scene from San Junipero ☺️
@johns.1857
@johns.1857 Жыл бұрын
If the series ends this way, we'll never get an explanation of the Season 2 end credit scene of host-human William being tested for fidelity. That scene wouldn't make any sense at all or relate to anything in the show unless there is a Season 5.
@eulerblanch5061
@eulerblanch5061 Жыл бұрын
The host William believes that he is in fact the actual William since he always carries a "piece" of him. I guess this "piece" can be correlated to the concept of "soul"?
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 Жыл бұрын
I mean I think the bigger disappointment would not be able to see Dolores's Westworld experiment. That would be a more egregious cliffhanger to leave on.
@kash3548
@kash3548 Жыл бұрын
Host William this season isn’t William (he was built before William died) he’s built by Halores using her code and her memory of what William is. The Season 2 post credit is the human-host hybrid of William being tested (aka Delos style). my theory is Emily is actually Dolores.
@robcannon
@robcannon Жыл бұрын
I really like this season, but the last episode was more on the "meh" side. I guess it felt like things were playing out the only way they could play out based on the previous episodes? Christine's scenes seemed very drawn out and pointless. AND, why didn't Frankie shoot Clementine when she was right there and instead waited for her to beat the crap out of Caleb first? I was excited for this episode base on the end of the previous episode, but it didn't deliver, IMO.
@larkinpaul
@larkinpaul Жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@marcuscarter-segers6144
@marcuscarter-segers6144 Жыл бұрын
Christinas/Dolores scenes was to show her becoming conscious again had to stretch it a little would of seemed strange if she just snapped out of it & Frankie didn’t want to waste her last bullet if she missed.
@laurareeves9754
@laurareeves9754 Жыл бұрын
You have such a generous and creative spirit. Thank you for all your hard work. Great work as usual and Jared was great as well.
@geek4life754
@geek4life754 Жыл бұрын
Great episode and Seson
@pooloftim8263
@pooloftim8263 Жыл бұрын
Um…why exactly was it necessary for Bernard to undergo thousands of simulations? It was interesting early on but there was so much focus on Maeve on she barely did anything before being killed by William. All of that just to distract Hale so Bernard could sneak in, just to be killed anyway? His big contribution was essentially to send Hale a video message, not sure why that took so mucH preparation. Did we really need all that buildup with Bernard leaving the gun for Hale? Why not just tell her to take a few extra rounds or firing at William when he’s behind a barrel? I’m surprised so many people liked this season, I thought it was awful, even worse than season 2. I never felt like this world was alive and all the buildup and preparation really meant nothing. And where the F was everyone? There were never any guards or staff everywhere. This show is a shell from Season One, wish they stuck with that type of theme and just switched parks every season.
@Justjames283
@Justjames283 Жыл бұрын
Same. So much of it was pointless.
@adityapathania1098
@adityapathania1098 Жыл бұрын
I too felt the same way. There were too many pointless things and still many are praising it. In my eyes only season 1 was good. This season, while being better than s2 and s3, left still more to be desired.
@tommywicks97
@tommywicks97 Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it! Shocked at all the comments of people saying they loved it?! Wow, what absolute DROSS it was, god damn awful. So disappointed at what westworld has become considering westworld season 1 is my all time favourite show. Making that jarring unlikable charlotte hale/halores/Tessa Thompson a central character or big bad you could say was their biggest mistake it brought down the show massively, the deconstruction of the man in black and attempt to correct their mistakes on that just caused more damage than good, I actually feel sorry for ed harris, they massacred his character and misused him. The constant repeating of things the show has done just 10x better was so jarring they ‘hey look remember this?! Hey look it all rhymes’ its like hmm naaa your all out creativity and are half as talented as the writers who written the first series, i mean its no coincidence this show dropped off soon as jonathan nolan stepped back from it. Some of the decisions made were diabolical, the way stubbs was killed off… wtf? And thats just the start of it! god i hate this show now. I mean what does it even matter… its all just a simulation now anyway!
@pooloftim8263
@pooloftim8263 Жыл бұрын
@@tommywicks97 yea I don’t get the dichotomy of saving human race vs claiming they will be extinct in a few years. +1 for using “dross”, a word I’ve never heard of and had to look it up. Well done.
@Flacopro40
@Flacopro40 Жыл бұрын
I think if humanity can be saved is because Dolores will be able to crack fidelity ultimately be able to upload human consciousness to host bodies
@brandonreed09
@brandonreed09 Жыл бұрын
Or she cracks space travel so humans and hosts can leave this world behind.
@joeminier1736
@joeminier1736 Жыл бұрын
Thats what i was thinking. It’s actually not a bad idea if humans can successfully become hosts without the body rejecting the mind. In a way the real charlotte will have gotten what she wanted, human immortality. And it can be a better world with hybrid and regular hosts existing
@DBlock_11x
@DBlock_11x Жыл бұрын
Dude when Ed Harris said “You F’ing camper” I almost spit my entire drink all over my tv screen lol 😂. Classic meta
@irock4031
@irock4031 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers Жыл бұрын
much appreciated thank you
@irock4031
@irock4031 Жыл бұрын
@@heavyspoilers also start paying attention to you Instagram....
@larkinpaul
@larkinpaul Жыл бұрын
The finale was a let down in my opinion, seemed rushed, cheesy and forced. I give it a 4 out of 10.
@jaredmaharaj9483
@jaredmaharaj9483 Жыл бұрын
Question -- Why does Caleb "break down" in his host version but William does not?
@noidparanoid1
@noidparanoid1 Жыл бұрын
Because Caleb is a hybrid, and we know that hybrids tend to break down. William is a complete artificial host that has been "infected" by William's human side by embracing the path of his original self.
@ElCyberWizard
@ElCyberWizard Жыл бұрын
Ones running on ford and the other on a Chevy
@vkatmandu
@vkatmandu Жыл бұрын
Hale said that she created HIB from her own memories/code in the image of William, only made him stronger. He's a normal host, that wasn't run through fidelity. After talking to MIB in cryo he went crazy on a killing spree like a typical host would do.
@marcos-ll2yr
@marcos-ll2yr Жыл бұрын
William is a host, Caleb is a hybrid. Human mind with host body, so that's why he have a brak down. Human mind reject host body, episode 4 from season 2 explain that.
@b.b.s7545
@b.b.s7545 Жыл бұрын
@@ElCyberWizard wrong one is runs on a FIAT. Fix it again tony
@Ashley-vn3my
@Ashley-vn3my Жыл бұрын
Yay! Theory time!
@TruthChaserProtocol
@TruthChaserProtocol Жыл бұрын
Great Series
@richardwalker6004
@richardwalker6004 Жыл бұрын
A few things . The way Stubbs died and it just ended for him was weak to me . We didn’t see Caleb really die at the end . Also if all the ppl were fake in Christina’s world ,. How come the roommate mentioned having a nightmare about the flys , as if she lived through it . Also , one flaw in this season to me is , they never showed what a doomed humanity society even lived like . A nice island with enough genetic diversity should be enough to survive ?
@ryanhenderson6109
@ryanhenderson6109 Жыл бұрын
Last 2 episodes felt rushed and very poorly written. Season was excellent until the end.
@ameyakale2739
@ameyakale2739 Жыл бұрын
The roommate was her own creation, she made her and Teddy as reminders for herself to wake up. Part of her programming involves becoming free, and she created two such people to bring her back. So the fly nightmare from her roommate might actually be a reminder from herself. It's a bit wonky, but if we had two more episodes this season it could have been evenly fleshed out.
@kash3548
@kash3548 Жыл бұрын
they are leaving a lot of open ends - is Caleb really dead? is Maeve or Bernie or Stubbs really dead? is Clem dead? since they are all hosts i think it’s possible they will all come back.
@LiftYourGame
@LiftYourGame Жыл бұрын
Did you see what happened to the other Caleb's? They went crazy, lost their minds, scratched themselves into being disfigured. It's exactly the same as what happened to James Delos when Bernard found him. He was alive m but he was absolutely crazy and scratched to hell. So many comments of people whining about not getting proper clear cut resolutions for every single character. You literally saw the other Caleb's. This new Caleb isn't any different. Also Stubbs dying is fine. He was a side character, a lackey, comedic relief. Supporting if you will. He didn't need some heroic, extravagant death. But I'd love to know why and how it was weak. And how you would've had him die otherwise. I hope you can answer this question and not reflect it as lazy writing.
@snuffcarl
@snuffcarl Жыл бұрын
Why would we see calebs death?
@mohammeddiallo3354
@mohammeddiallo3354 Жыл бұрын
I don't know man... This finale sort of left me unsatisfied. S3 finale was supposed to be about humans having a choice, then that got taken away in S4 and now they have to start over again? Hale screwed things up badly and we supposed to believe her redemption? And we still don't know what her "world" is. Where did all those ascended hosts go? S2 post credit scene still haunting me. So many questions I feel we won't get an answer to at the end.
@sayusaymee7722
@sayusaymee7722 Жыл бұрын
15:24 lmfaooooo @ 3:50 in the morning 😭💀
@Drekulviin
@Drekulviin Жыл бұрын
Season 1 : 10/10 Season 2 : 7.5/10 Season 3 : 4/10 Season 4 : Please stop Season 5 : Cancelled
@johns.1857
@johns.1857 Жыл бұрын
Show runner stated years ago that he pitched Westworld to HBO as 5 seasons. He already had the basic plots for all 5 seasons before filming for season 1 even started. Obviously money is what will determine if there will be a season 5, but the plot seems to already exist in Nolans head. So I don't think the Season 4 finale is how Westworld was meant to end.
@flamboyentpromotions3471
@flamboyentpromotions3471 Жыл бұрын
So who will be the antagonists in season 5 ?
@tommywicks97
@tommywicks97 Жыл бұрын
You do know nolan and his wife stepped away from this show and are only execs? Thats why this show sucks now
@johns.1857
@johns.1857 Жыл бұрын
@@tommywicks97 Nolan wrote the plots for all 5 seasons before he even pitched it to HBO. The writers, since Season 1 Episode 1, simply fill out Nolan's already established storyline. So if you don't like the storyline, Nolan and his wife are to blame. Moreover, Nolan and his wife were heavily involved in the making of Season 4. You can literally watch interview after interview of them where they are ON SET talking about the show. I'm not sure you understand what an executive producer is. And since you're here commenting about the show minutes or hours after the Season finale premiered, it sure appears that you're very much into the show. If I watched a show I didn't like the last thing I would do is go online to write negative comments on a youtube video about it.
@tommywicks97
@tommywicks97 Жыл бұрын
@@johns.1857 thats cute, getting rude on the internet bless your cotton socks. Nolan ‘wrote all 5 seasons before he even pitched to hbo’ phahahhaha you are hilarious! what do you think that means?! He had a story roughly outlined in which he knew where it all lead to beginned to end, you think he ‘wrote’ the entirety of all 5 series before he even pitched it? Hysterical, your delusional. Secondly, heavily involved? Heavily involved? Dont make me laugh. They havent been ‘heavily involved’ since season 1 dumb fuck. Season 1 jon and lisay written literally every episode bar ep 9 with jon even directing the first and last episode. Season 4- lisa partly wrote ep1 and ep5 with jons only involvement being PARTLY writing ep 8 with alison shapker. Heavily involved? shut your god damn mouth before yo talk to me! Phaaa🤣👍🏻 I dont know what execs do? ahhhh bless you… JACK SHIT! 🤣You really had the cheek to come at me like some sassy know it all bitch and fell flat on your face. If i watch a show and i dont like it….. i have the free will to do whatever the fuck i want how about that! Its called freedom of speech ya bellend.
@neticks761
@neticks761 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you found it and I did not hear. When Dolores wakes next to "Teddy" this episode she is not in her white slip but rather in black. If we are to follow the color theory of White/Black meaning levels of the maze and red being equal to humans, maybe in the final season she will wake in red meaning she has completed the maze. For a moment we see hale dressed in red as if she were close to becoming human, until she has to turn black to save the world. which is funny cause she strips off all color in the end. Side note the map of the city was red, a city of humans.
@mattbranham2031
@mattbranham2031 Жыл бұрын
The last episode of the last season is going to be a mind blowing reveal via Anthony Hopkins. Need this full circuit moment!
@jakeriff95
@jakeriff95 Жыл бұрын
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