If he does become quirkless, that will be extremely ironic given the fact he is going to be called the greatest hero.

Fun fact the name Toumura has "tou" which means 10 in Japanese. All OFA users has kanji number somewhere in their name like Izuku has "ku" which means 9 and nana which means 7 and Toshinori yagi has "ya" means 8.

I don't know how I feel about Deku/Izuku losing his quirk after we had to sit through years of watching the guy train and break his body to master it

Deku giving up OFA wouldn't' be an immediate loss of power for him. Like All Might, he would still have a ton of physical power left until it ran out (minus perhaps the other quirk factors) and also his OWN VESTIGE would be inside Shiggy and so Deku himself could go save Tenko as a vestige inside Shiggy.

The way I interpret the "let go of One For All quirk" is that either 1) doing so would power up the remains of Star's and Stripe's New Order: "Poison and Rebel command" to combat Shigaraki For One from the inside (since fighting traditionally from the outside has not been working for the past hundred chapters) OR 2) power up the hundreds of stolen quirks within Shigaraki For One to create a Quirk Doomsday effect that would destroy him from the inside (since One For All drastically reduces the lifespan of naturally born quirk users). This may act as a knock-off of Naruto Baryon-Mode life shaving fighting strategy.

Him giving shig AFO might trigger the quick singularity that makes his body uncapable to handle everything. Some have theorized that shig was already there, but he's been able to maintain himself through it all to this point

What if the 4th user swapped places with Stars and stripes. What if he was like " yo star take my place" Idk I'm just grasping at straws

honestly i kinda like how ultimately altruistic deku is, he's the ultimate pure form of the trope, he is THE hero, to the end.

The theory I've been pushing for a while. He forces OFA on to Shigaraki. Primarily the fragment that is Tenko so Tenko can fight back with the vestiges.

If the 2nd could look through Deku's memories, then once Deku lets go of OFA his vestige will be able to look through Tenko's memories, as Shigaraki looks through Deku's memories. They will finally understand each other. Tenko will regain faith in true heroes as Deku helps Tenko through the pain. Then there will be a united All for One and One For All that could be the kindest and strongest force in the world that would be able to prevent any future quirk singularities.

It’s probably gonna be like that one mha movie ending where he gives it away and ofa forces itself back into deku but with afo this time

Deku is going to pass on OFA to Tenko Shimura (not shigaraki) and NaNa's going to tell him the words Deku wanted his mom to say. You can be a hero. I don't like it but I think that's what's coming

If Deku gives up all of the quirks he SHOULD still have a remnant of power like All Might Did.

I doubt he's gonna lose it anytime soon, at least not before he goes 100% on shiggy. Theres another theory online that says "letting go of OFA" actually means letting go of the principles engraved into the quirk and its users, meaning that he's letting go of the idea that saving everyone (including the villains) is first priority and that he should actually go for the kill rn to ensure the safety of others

I wonder how Danger Sense works now? It was increased in strength because of One for All. So, when Shigaraki stole it, was it still enhanced, or is it now reduced because it's no longer part of One For All? If it's reduced back to it's base level, it might be fairly useless to Shigaraki.

It’s a nightmare going quirkless again

My theory is that the battle is now transitioning into the battle of the vestiges. And not just the vestiges of OFA but all the current vestiges of AFO. By giving OFA to shigaraki, a vestige of Deku will appear that will be able to use OFA to it unlimited potential without the burden of his body to truly “revolt” against OFA and save Tenko.

Let’s remember, One for All can only exist in a quirkless person. It’s too much of a strain on there body. And I know Shigaraki has an upgraded body. But it could be like a Po and Kai moment. Where Izuku does give him one for all, and not only do the vestiges fight back. But the quirk is too much even for Shigaraki.

At this point it seems like Horikoshi is being pressed by Shonen to end this fight like with Madara in Naruto. And low-key, I feel that Horikoshi is vicariously expressing himself through Shigaraki and he's become attached at this point. The tone from how this series began took a complete turn over when it came to truly filling out the character Shigaraki. It's quite sad honestly I don't think he wants Shigaraki to lose here, and from what I'm seeing Shigaraki is hell bent on proving that he is beyond redemption. At worst a very sad bleak ending for MHA ( which I know won't fly for Shonen) is the story ends grim and bleak like "Devil Man Crybaby" but hopefully not as empty as "Neon Genesis Evangelion" . At this point none of us really can predict how this fight will end, but we all know Deku has to fulfill his role as the greatest hero ever or whatever.

Izuku can fight him in the same way as all might did, even tho he doesn’t have the quirk maybe he can still use the remaining powers of it

I think stars and stripes was pointing to the moment in heroes rising when bakugo had ofa and it knocked him out cause of the power and they chose deku over bakugo so maybe when deku give ofa to shigaraki its going to knock him out or kill him then the vestiges are going to choose to stay in deku like what happened in heroes rising also maybe somehow deku gets afo from this and all the quirks in it

I feel like black whip might be the version of buff all might ( transformation ) making his muscles larger

+Danger Sense is already in shigarki and he used the Quirk.

This chapter's art was soo good. MHA is by far doing the best in terms of art quality in currently releasing chapters. He really is history's craziest hero. Also Spidersense has the same weakness, too many attacks can confuse Peter and a certain chemical can outright disable it. Also a frequency can disable it too.

I mentioned this in an older video, but I think it ends with Deku sacrificing (aka giving OFA) to AFO; however think more on Stars and Stripes. Instead of rebelling, they go find Tenko and within Shigs give them their power and thats how the "internal rebellion " happens Tenko vs Shig

Something that cane to mind, what if the play is to overload the Shigi personality with the OFA vestiges or just the quirk factor to make that personality or him explode: revealing Tenko

I like the FMAB type ending, giving up everything that makes you "special" to win

12:40 along the lines of the 2nd my hero movie, what if bakugo is given a portion of OFA. Deku gives up all of himself, but leaves that fraction in bakugo. Bakugo is then the only one able to fight shigaraki in the physical world while deku fights as a vestige in the vestige world since he sorta lets bakugo “inherit” OFA.

*Deku honestly deserves to whoop AFO & Shigis ass without losing his quirks but i understand also 😢*

I think Star n Stripes quick jump in one for all when Shiggy touched and stole danger sense

The power to transfer quirks even against some ones will as all might said in s1. Meaninh midoria give OFA to Shigaraki. Then the vestiagse like in the island movie, transfer back to midoria with AFO in tow.

Or it could possibly be for nana to find tenko within shigiraki and release him from shigarakis hold

Bro cursed energy plus blueberry and a small bit of black berry really good! I call that Hollow Purple. Max hollow purple is a cocktail.

I think storywise, Shiga got the danger sense quirk because it only reacts to malicious intent, which Izuku won't have

He'll probably get his original quirk back afer losing OFA

Always had a hunch that it would be an Inner-Quirk World type fight at the end to decide the victory. Never thought they would actually pull it off though. Kinda proud of 'em

And you said En should have been taken last time 🤣

4:24 Deku makes a *PAAAHHHH* noise 😂

We haven't seen All Might for a couple chapters at this point, he's still laying on the ground somewhere still not dead. Since Izuku is currently fighting Shigaraki, what if some of the heroes deploy Eri and get him to Toshinori to rewind him back to when he had OFA. Cause if there is going to be a mental battle within Shigaraki, there still has to be a physical fight. Maybe they can rewind All Might to when he only had the embers of OFA inside of him since if they rewinded All Might back to his prime, it wouldn't make much sense since Eri's rewind quirk depends on how much time is stockpiled, plus the quirk factors rebelling against Shigaraki. All Might and the Quirk Vestiges could work together to defeat Shigaraki. This might also be the actual "gruesome death" Nighteye described to All Might all those years ago.

i like how this story is moving forward

bakugo: "kills a villain baby" Deku:"ill take his.....arm"

well if you think about it even with the suped up body shigi probably wouldnt be able to handle the raw output of OFA seeing as he already has AFO. as well as like you said the vestiges fighting back within AFO they could find Star quirk factor and have her quirk change the laws within AFO. Because wiht OG AFO dead it would mean that there would be no confusion in shigis head of who he is so the rule she used like 2 years ago in the manga could work. THE VESTIGES CAN STILL USE THE QUIRKS THEY WERE BORN WITH!!!

Kinda feels like Aang vs Ozai

Even when hero society has been shown to be in shambles Deku still wants to hold onto saving everybody. This character is too pure for his own good.

the fact deku is holding back just to not kill shigaraki makes me piss my self

We see things so differently. Although your way will most likely play out. I saw izuku losing one for all to bakugo, or ofa leaving and going at the wishes of the vestige. Since bakugo would be more than willing to do what izuku isn’t willing to do.

I loved the battle in Deku demonstrated here, but I’m 90% sure OFA is basically gonna reset when all this is over, all the vestige will work to destroy AFO in the mindscape taking the quirks and raw power with them.

Stars and Stripes is probably pointing at a vestige of the last shred of AFO because OFA is originally his!! 😅😅

10:22 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

He's going to get AFO and take back all his quirks. “The power to give and take could have been the kindest in the world.”

The creator did say izuku dad would make an appearance so maybe he has some special quirk that he can give to deku

How do the vestiges of OFA know she rebelled inside of AFO? maybe I’m Forgetting a chapter but I don’t see how they know that

I love that in the panel when star and stripes hand pointed through the heavy door in the vestige world some theories already speculating like what's gonna happen.. I've seen some theories like deku will acquire new order , deku will activate a new quirk , deku will give up one for all and give to shiggy to overload it and there's one theory stating inside the door is hisashi midoriya .. idk what's true here lol

So will deku just have the super strength left to use on shigaraki along with the enhanced speed base ofa gives him?

I feel like this is how All Might was using all these powers as one subconsciously, like when he changes from muscle form to a normal form and you see the smoke

The vestiges will go into shigi, Deku will be left with only the power stockpiling quirk putting him back to what the quirk was originally thought to be. Then Nana will be the one to reach Tenko, all the vestiges will die but Tenko will fight for control with Shigi, then he’ll force Deku to kill him, but also tell Deku that he saved him. Deku with the last of his strength will defeat shigi and lose OFA, ending the war between the brothers becoming the greatest hero. But his hero life is over as he once knew it. Bakugo will become the #1 hero and Deku will become a teacher, teaching the new generation on how to be proper heroes.

If he becomes quirkless he'll maybe get a quirk evolution or something and get some sort of weird non quirk power

Deku deep down has no issue with killing someone, especially shigaraki earlier in the story. In the paramount war, Deku watched shigaraki seemingly kill Gran Torino. Upon seeing this Deku disobeyed Gran Torino and directly engaged shigaraki with the intent to kill him. Deku outright declares that he has the intention of just outright killing shigaraki, as he tells him that he is the only man he will never forgive. Black whip is then stated to suddenly increase in strength as deku’s rage increased, only for deku to then slam shigaraki with a 100% Wyoming smash to the face, showing that he is not holding back. Deku then watches shigaraki nearly kill erasure head by trying to rip his face off and make him cut off his own leg, so he begins his fated 1v1 death match with shigaraki in the air. Deku starts rapid fire speed blitzing shigaraki with back to back 100% smashes so fast that shigaraki’s regeneration can’t keep up. Shigaraki shouts at deku questioning why he’s going to essentially potentially kill himself just to kill shigaraki, to which Deku replies explaining that despite his dream being to become the number 1 hero, upon receiving one for all he pledged to a responsibility to find and permanently take down all for one by any means necessary. To deku, this responsibility is put above his dream, so he doesn’t care if he’ll die just to kill shigaraki. Especially now that it had gotten personal after shigaraki seemingly killed 2 of deku’s mentors right in front of him. Shigaraki/all for one then seemingly kills Bakugo, to which Deku goes absolutely ballistic and loses himself to blind rage and killing intent. Unexpectedly, deku gets caught by shigaraki/all for one, and is shown a vision of vestiges within one for all and all for one, which reveals a scared crying child within shigaraki. By seeing this, the origin which shigaraki had that deku previously didn’t give a shit about begins to make sense to Deku. Deku wanted to absolutely kill shigaraki, but seeing the weakness within shigaraki, he notices that killing him would literally just prove him right. Hero society doesn’t give a shit about this stuff, they’d much rather ignore it to sustain the society they have rather than ever even try to do both. But a hero always tries, and killing shigaraki now violates the heroic morality Deku has. Hero society cares more about the public heroic acts, while caring about the little guy isn’t something they consider important enough to be worth needing to do. But for Deku and even All might deep down, “meddling when you don’t need to, is the essence of being a hero!” Deku never had a quirk for most of his life, so the only thing he had to substantiate his dream of one day being the number one hero was his morality. Being put in a situation where he puts his own morality into question is what the vigilante arc was built off of. He now has to not only leave to fight shigaraki and all for one on his own, but he has to ponder on what he should do whenever he finds them. Sure if he finds all for one, he’ll just kill him. Just the mention or thought of all for one fills Deku with visible rage during the vigilante arc. Deku wouldn’t have any issue trying to kill all for one just like all might did, because all might fought the “demon lord”, the embodiment of evil. But encountering shigaraki who is the embodiment of destruction makes Deku rethink his philosophy. The entire arc is just Deku using every villain put in front of him as a philosophical experiment to answer the question of “if I’m put in front of a villain too strong to capture, can they be rehabilitated, or do they all have to be put down like a dog?” He fights muscular, and that experience tells him the later, but Deku is far more power than him so he can just be captured. Then he fights lady nagant, and that fight tells him that villains can be reached even despite the flaws of hero society. Lady nagant is the predecessor to hawks, hawks is a foil to Dabi, and both dabi and shigaraki are leaders of the league of villains created by the carelessness of hero society. The entire arc people are telling him to kill shigaraki. Gran Torino of all people tells him that some people just can’t be reasoned with, as he knows that Deku is struggling philosophically. Nana shimura tells him that shigaraki is too far gone and needs to be eliminated. But after all of the moral confusion he’s had in this arc leading him to being mentally and physically exhausted causing him to numb himself to everything, his piers display to him his own previous philosophy, and his conclusion to his question now stays the same. He answers to himself, and to his mentors, even though there might not be a way to save shigaraki, a hero will always try. Now in the manga, Deku puts this conclusion to the test. He keeps saying that he needs to end things quickly, the one for all vestiges tell him to end things quickly, but while prioritizing finishing the fight, he also prioritizes reaching shigaraki to either save him, or receive the answer he needs for himself in order to justify killing him and potentially proving him right. The stakes are now at their highest with shigaraki saying screw it, and saying he might just destroy all of Japan and erupt a nearby volcano. We even get a flashback when shigaraki threatens this of best jeanist explaining that now that shigaraki is hardly even the successor of all for one and rather just the pure embodiment of destruction, he might direct this destruction toward the earth itself! Society as we know it is at stake, Japan is at stake, and potentially even the very earth. It’s not or never, and we’re waiting to see what move will have to be made.

It'd be pretty cool to see Tenko be like a vestige of his quirkless self or something

all these years of mastering ofa and watching deku progress just so that deku can give his quirk last second in the hopes that he might make shiggy explode from too much power . not to mention how the fuck will deku continue being a hero without a quirk . like its a fact without a quirk means no playing hero . so if you ask me its assinine. deku should just get another powerup and finish this

I got your answer so if Deku transfer one for all to Shigaraki he should retain the embers much in the same way that All Might did he just won’t have all the other meta abilities he’ll just be back to being super strong, speedy Deku like All Might. I could even see him because of the quirk singularity being able to retain even more or if he ends up “quirkless” having a by-product of the quirk singularity and other meta quirks like Yoichi. I don’t like the idea of Deku and Shigaraki trading quirks back and forth and this makes the most amount of sense with evidence we’ve seen from All Might earlier in the series.

Called it when liberation started going hard. Izuku erases quirks, making him the great equalizer, or the last quirk user, thus making him the best

Well what if something like the second movie where Deku “gives up” OFA they fight inside the vestige world and once Shigaraki is defeated the previous users wish for Deku to keep OFA

I feel like it would be able to still box one thing is deku bodys been broken and rebuilt so many times not like a normal human like I wouldn’t be surprised if that makes his body way more durable to be able to fight shigaraki

What's Kudo's plan tho?

If this does happen i called it back in Apr 4, 2021 xD lmao I just had a feeling. Them hinting that you can only transfer OFA to a quirkless person so it doesn't kill the user just made it obvious. I really don't want it to go in that direction but it is what it is i guess.

what i think it will happen will be a vestage battle. shigaraki will link to izuko and at that moment we will to a vestage battle and in that battle izuku will will shigaraki from the inside and not lose the one for all

What if when deku gives up OFA and enters Shigaraki vestige to save tenko, the quirk remains within him afterwards in a similar way like when deku gave bakugo OFA in the second movie

Honestly, I personally don’t like the route this final battle is taking, which is disappointing after watching Bakugo utterly wreck All For One. Shigaraki is just way too overpowered at this point, on top of him suddenly being able to steal One For All with no problem, and the possibility of Izuku just giving up the power he worked so hard to make his own just feels too cliche. And Izuku’s insistence on saving Shigaraki just runs me the wrong way. He knows full well how utterly dangerous Shigaraki is yet insists on trying to save him, even after Shigaraki made it VERY clear he doesn’t want to be saved. Even if Tenko is still in there Izuku is risking way too much trying to save someone who’s fully willing to kill his own allies just to wipe Japan off the map completely. I’m really only keeping up with the manga at this point because I want to see how it ends.

Would it be weird if they rebel from within the AFO quirk, shigaraki not knowing how to kill vestiges like All for One did, or not being strong enough in willpower to do so, surrenders the quirk to Deku to stop the destruction inside him. Making him an coincidental quirk god

I feel like the more shigi takes from him the stronger the other quirks becomes?

I really pray he doesn't lose OFA,that would truly suck ass.

i really do hope so cause deku become quirkless because is begining a greedy fk and still trying to save that kid when he don't even to be save.

Remember how Izuku got OFA back after transferring it to Bakugo in the second movie? Maybe something similar to that might happen.

It could be that after Shigaraki take OFA from Deku, the quirk singularity finally kicks in and he completely loses control of his body.

I have no idea whats happening!

I don't that's gonna happen If whole of negative will of shigaraki can overcome One for all Then positive will of Izuku will overcome All for one And in the end both one for all and all for one will stay with izuku And Deku will be the greatest hero of all time

How god damn long is this fight going to last?

Mo daijoubu! Naze tte? Watashi ga kita!🗿

What if he loses the previous user's powers? I keep a normal one for all. Like he was before.

I don't think izuku is going to be quirkless for very long since it seems to be hinted that he may end up getting star and Stripes Quark known as New Order. Because in the image that we saw of all might and kudo, in the void of one for all, tell izuku that he needs to let go of one for all now the only reason why I can think of as to tell him to let go of this power is that he accidentally could have gotten Stars and Stripes quirk by accident from shigaraki when he temporary touched him. And the Hand of stars and stripe had pointed in a direction that Kudo and all might were looking at so this could be leading to something big into izuku acquiring New Order.

I have a feeling that Deku may give away the quirks inside of One For All, but not all of them. As we saw with Shigaraki and Danger Sense, he may give them away. But the door inside of the vestige world may finally open, and while the vestiges are fighting against Shigaraki. Deku will go to the door and unlock the All For One quirk.

Wasn’t like deku after using gear shift so post to pass out like 20 chapters ago did they forget

If he let's go of one for all, would he still have the embers to fight with like all might did because he's willingly giving it up? If the vestiges fight on the inside to save Tenko while Deku fights on the outside using the embers, that's what I think, but I am expecting to switch to find out what's going on with Eraserhead, Kurogiri and Present mic before the end of this fight

thanks for putting major plot point in title so I can just find out by scrolling KZfaq

It would be cool if somehow Star and Stripes got into the One for all dimension so deku could use her quirk

This battle was always going to be won in the vestige world. Even if it ends with Shiggy decaying into nothing (possibly along with Deku), the final battle was always destined to be a spiritual one. Deku losing OFA right now means that we really are less than a year away from the hard ending of BNHA.

Deku's line about the rug basically reinforces why I like him so much. This chapter as whole basically reinforced why I like him so much overall. Also, if the theory about him being quirkless again by the end of it is true, I have to say, I would absolutely love for that to happen. It would really bring things full circle.

YOUR TAKE AT THE END SOUNDS RICHT BECAUSE WOULDN DEKU BE A VESTAGE? and eh can fight and persuade the ko to rebel from the inside with all might nana and inspire tenko to love heroes again

why not just find the vestige of the user of decay, and make him rebel?

My theory is it might be a trick by Shigiraki to get the quirk?

If he transfer OFA over the traditional way, he'll keep the embers. This will probably be enough to take on shiggy with his super power body. I bet they manage to destroy decay and all other quirks as well, since it's not the quirk Shiggy had at birth (if he even had one). The fight will probably end with both AFO and OFA being gone from the world.

Maybe they can somehow strategically let him get all the quirks except to stockpiler. So the last fight will be baby All Might v. Tetsuo

how about giving shiggy all the quirks and attempting to overload the singularity causing him to cease to be

Perhaps One For All will cause all the Quirk remnants in Shigaraki to become full on vestiges, causing them to rebel against Shigaraki

I don't think they are referring to him giving one for all completely, but rather the vestiges themselves, they will be able to battle Shigaraki from the inside and Deku will still have one for alls base quirk to fight him with on the outside

I think it would be kinda neat if Deku defeated Shigaraki with his deku vestige if shigaraki does take all his quirks.

Spoilers ahead if you’re not caught up on the manga. Bit of an asspull here fellas but what if as star and stripe was dying, I remember she was allowed to impose like 3 rules? What if she abandoned all her rules set the rule on all for one / tomura but then activated another rule stating that her quirk would fall to her “masters” successor in the event he became quirk less ?

Can he give up ofa and receive stars and stripe quirk 👀 and just put a rule to keep his ofa fuel

I really need to get back to watching mha