Farewell to the Southern Railway Loops

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Recorded in 2020, this documentary records the final through trains on Norfolk Southern's Old Fort Loops in North Carolina.
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@DelayInBlockProductions Жыл бұрын

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@theoutdoorsandgames6133 Жыл бұрын

where is 611 vid

@tavi9598 Жыл бұрын

Saluda was abandoned because they were rerouting through freight via the Old Fort Loops. Now they're abandoning the Loops too? What a waste.

@DucatiGTS Жыл бұрын

I do not understand how you're sitting at only 114k subs, I know people who have RF channels & have eclipsed 200k subs in less than 2 years. You have great content, that algorithm must not like you.

@DelayInBlockProductions Жыл бұрын

We don’t get it either. It’s frustrating. Thanks for watching though and for the kind words.

@Scaletrains Жыл бұрын

Great video! We actually made the 9613 in HO Scale a few years ago.

@tylerrose5232 Жыл бұрын

Nothing like a bit of self promotion I see

@jacobdubielak 5 ай бұрын

I love how the Norfolk Southern train conductor was talking to you about the drone

@Ryanstumpie1 Жыл бұрын

And as of June 2023, things are looking good with the talks of through freights coming back to Asheville District!

@tacticalllama67 Жыл бұрын

This is my back yard...sad to see it in deline. Ran all the ridgetops of Old Fort mountain.

@annregovich767 Жыл бұрын

RIP southern railways

@amyreynolds3619 8 ай бұрын

I was in Asheville in July and the yard in Asheville was very full and had many NS locomotives there 2023

@NS_1903 Жыл бұрын

Great work!! Thanks Drayton.

@Trains-With-Shane Жыл бұрын

So while I like the remasters I much prefer your own narration.

@karenchilders4865 Жыл бұрын

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@joeystrains.9316 Жыл бұрын

One of the channel`s best captures yet, with the different perspectives. Excellent video. Beautiful country scene.

@DelayInBlockProductions Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jeffmiller3150 Жыл бұрын

That's got tourist railway written all over it!!!🛤️🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃💰

@joeystrains.9316 Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@RailPreserver2K 9 ай бұрын

@@joeystrains.9316same

@steveamurray59 Жыл бұрын

Well Done !

@AngryCatMan1982 Жыл бұрын

The best hope for preservation is for the state of NC to purchase or lease the route from NS. Similar to it's Piedmont counterpart terminating in Charlotte & Raleigh, this hypothetical "new service" could terminate in Asheville & Salisbury. Of course the entire line needs to be PTC compliant, and there's the roadblock.

@Stopshawnb Жыл бұрын

The line from Longview to Asheville has a speed limit of 25 Miles Per Hour. It still got signals working for just a few trains somehow! that might be the reason why NS pulled the plug for the Old Fort Loops.

@thomasmackowiak Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Drayton, for uploading this video on Norfolk Southern's last trains over the former Southern Railway's Fort Loops and the CSX's Clinchfield Loops. I enjoyed watching this video!

@earlschmitt884 Жыл бұрын

Always 😢sad to see old rail lines come to an end.

@joenewstead4848 Жыл бұрын

Apparently the chip plant in bristol is under new ownership and it is unown if they are gonna continue getting cars shipped.

@stanb42 3 ай бұрын

You’ve really got to appreciate the 19th and early 20th century civil and ROW engineers to meet the requirements of moving tonnage over the mountains with no natural passes.

@cu29640 Жыл бұрын

S-Line may end up being leased to the Blue Ridge who will hopefully build up some new shippers with a customer service design.

@MASTERCHIEF1062 Жыл бұрын

.... dude, they'll be lucky if they get that, has no one told you and the paper mill in Canton is being closed down? that's a major customer gone, money like that is gonna be hard to find on the S line.

@cu29640 Жыл бұрын

@@MASTERCHIEF1062 Yep and thats sad but there is hope someone will buy it. Many of Maine's paper mills closed and most have been purchased and fully re-opened. Cartons will be needed more and more if there is a desire to reduce single use plastic. Plastic is good for permanent use...I am referring to drink cartons etc. Lots of other customers on the S-Line with severed spurs. Concrete plant in Marion and others. NS must have not wanted that business otherwise why give up rail if you already have your own private spur.

@russellhoyle-em5sb Жыл бұрын

@@cu29640 don't forget Ingles.

@williamflowersrailfannerpr3808 Жыл бұрын

What a way to say goodbye to SOU loops RIP

@gordtvradio3465 11 ай бұрын

The CSX SD70T4s are really nice locos

@fluxthelycanroc9603 4 ай бұрын

These days its kinda common to see "road power" on locals. Further south here in georgia we use dash-9s, sd70s, es44s etc. You name it its probably been on a local. Not to say we dont have any smaller engines more suitable but thats just what we tend to be allocated

@dallasrailfanner3870 Жыл бұрын

RIP Loop

@liampurcell9561 Жыл бұрын

Used to hang out around the Andrew's loop in Old Fort, you could watch the trains come in on one side and see them leave the hollow about 40-50 feet higher. I'd go down there with my girlfriend and we'd pitch a hammock in the trees where you could see both sides of the loop. I think I still have a spike or two from that track. You could feel the diesel shake the ground and the trees as it climbed up and around.

@liampurcell9561 Жыл бұрын

Also- I know I watched a N/S train do the loops in Spring of 2021. So they must have kept at least a few more trips running. It was a big one too.

@Stopshawnb Жыл бұрын

@@liampurcell9561 must have been on a Monday or a Tuesday. we would be having 1 local that is like 5 to 15 cars, but on some Mondays or Tuesdays, it can be as long as 30 cars. but be aware, some Mondays and Tuesdays the train can be as small as 6 cars. P87 once when up to 20 to nearly 40 cars eastbound, since P87 doesn't run on weekends.

@KNR6292 10 ай бұрын

"perfect moments cannot be preserved....except in memories" thanks for sharing!

@johnsalomone5101 4 ай бұрын

Aww, I wish the production of the content actually showed full trains,,being a " train"= video, specially will old & new rolling stock kinda the best part,, is filming it, not to miss heritage showcase the rusty yesteryear,

@williamflowersrailfannerpr3808 Жыл бұрын

Gotta miss SOUTHERN Railway loops

@adrian33161 Жыл бұрын

Once my brain decided that it’s a donkey on the side of 9802, I can’t unsee it

@RailPreserver2K 9 ай бұрын

I hope some kind of excursion could be established on this, kind of like the hiawassee loop

@kennethtiller7916 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. If the loops are closed, will NS continue to operate trains out of Asheville? Especially now that the canton mill is closing?

@MrSubaru1387 6 ай бұрын

@1:09:27 first time driving in the NC mountains? lol

@cu29640 Жыл бұрын

Does the bowater coal train go via Roanoke down to Salisbury? If so why so out of the way versus direct thru Morristown?

@Stopshawnb Жыл бұрын

Yes, unfortunately. The reason is that the speed from Morristown to Long View, aka West Hickory (160 miles) is restricted to 25 miles per hour, making the trip slower, or the danger of having a loaded coal train going down on the loops. Once NS upgrades the speed, the loops would come back I bet.

@doctordeath.5716 Жыл бұрын

What is going to happen to the loop now?

@Mudpaws Жыл бұрын

Ripping it up

@coolruehle Жыл бұрын

@@Mudpaws ugh!

@swbfuf Жыл бұрын

@@Mudpaws no way, actually?

@MASTERCHIEF1062 Жыл бұрын

@@Mudpaws no you're thinking of Saluda, i heard talk the state's looking at the loops for passenger service between Asheville and the nearest Amtrak station.

@AngryCatMan1982 Жыл бұрын

@@MASTERCHIEF1062 That would be ideal to try to link across the state. I remember a few years ago, the state was looking to extend their service to Wilmington via the old W&W subdivision. Another route was using the Aberdeen Sub. to the Wilmington Sub. Imagine being able to take one train from the mountains to the beach, and back.

@killerbees177 11 ай бұрын

Is it easy to get to the southern loop?

@amyreynolds3619 8 ай бұрын

NS is having to reopening Lynnwood yard because they were making to much noises at the yard at Spencer and the towns fines the company so much that they are re-opening the yard as of May of this year.

@Bongofurry Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they turn it into a bike path.

@killerbees177 11 ай бұрын

So what did NS do with the loops? Did they tear the tracks up?

@KNR6292 10 ай бұрын

Gonna take a road trip to see the Saluda Grade and the Old Fort loops this October!!! lets hope theres something left to see

@johnathanlewis2049 Жыл бұрын

PSR has done a lot of damage to the railroad industry. It makes the boards of directors and stockholders happy but it destroys jobs

@brandonoconnor1079 7 ай бұрын

I hope Amtrak brings service to Asheville. It would be a shame for the loops to go the way Saluda did

@yankeesforlife24 Жыл бұрын

More than likely those locomotives weren’t sent there by upper management. While not “on purpose” most likely the crew member at the power desk is a railfanner or someone who understands the significance and sent them there.

@chickdavis8308 Жыл бұрын

Where is the paper mill near Asheville that uses all of those wood chips?

@DelayInBlockProductions Жыл бұрын

Canton and it has since closed.

@Stopshawnb Жыл бұрын

@@DelayInBlockProductions Closing soon. Hopefully, the Bridgewater Chip Mill would find a new customer and P87 will still run on the loops. I heard that there going to Charleston SC or Augusta GA, so they might truck the chips down there, or find an alternatives, or still run them on the loops.

@mileniumforcefrabfrab2997 Жыл бұрын

what are loops?

@kz100 Жыл бұрын

The loops are a way to gradually raise a railroad from a lower elevation to a higher one. In this case, the loops raise the railroad from the foothills to the top of the Blue Ridge mountain. Other examples are Horseshoe Curve in Pennsylvania, Williams Loop in California and the Tehachapi Loop also in California.

@joedelusso1415 Жыл бұрын

I guess the final nail in the coffin Will be the closing of the evergreen mill in Canton NC in june.

@jefferykeeper9034 Жыл бұрын

Why do you keep changing camera angles because some people would like too see the hole train.

@austinross1825 Жыл бұрын

I miss your old narration to be honest it’s really obvious you’re using an AI voice. Whoever said your personal narration is annoying they can stick it I think you have a good natural speaking voice. Hope this boosts your confidence buddy.

@nolantherailfan5048 Жыл бұрын

Was this loop abandoned?

@Stopshawnb Жыл бұрын

No to maybe. P60 might be the last.

@jessemoose6970 Жыл бұрын

No their talking about bringing through freight back and once or twice a week there Is a train taking freight to Linwood or to Asheville

@Stopshawnb Жыл бұрын

@@jessemoose6970 but we haven’t seen that train in like 2 weeks. If this new service doesn’t happen, the Line from Asheville to Statesville might become a branch line, or hopefully Asheville to Catawba would get sold off. That will mean the Asheville District will be lost, and the line from Catawba to Salisbury will be part of the Danville District.

@cellovid Жыл бұрын

Is this the clinchfield loops?

@bigB6flyer Жыл бұрын

No. They they go thru Altapass,NC on the old Clinchfield Line now CSX.

@lakegeorgedental3998 Жыл бұрын

@@bigB6flyer Thanks... I'm sad to hear of lines closing. I had a lovely day of trainspotting near the altapass tunnel many years ago on a family vacation.

@TrainsAreReallyCool Жыл бұрын

A prime example of NS's terminal stupidity in 2020.

@williamlee1429 Жыл бұрын

Two 4,500 hp road diesels doing the work of a 600 hp switch engine back in the day. What a monumental waste of horsepower and fuel.

@christherailfan5851 Жыл бұрын

don’t forget about the 2.94% grade

@Stopshawnb Жыл бұрын

@@christherailfan5851 Running in Notch 4 or 5, and even 3 up a 2% grade, only bringing 12 loads up the mountain with a total of 8800HP at the front. Might be because of fuel prices. If a locomotive is in notch 8, it's wasting some fuel.

@christherailfan5851 Жыл бұрын

@@Stopshawnb they probably don’t want to be wasting time since the traction motors lose a significant amount of power at speed compared to at a crawl.

@Stopshawnb Жыл бұрын

@@christherailfan5851 They never craw, up till about 30 woodchip hoppers.

@christherailfan5851 Жыл бұрын

@@Stopshawnb alr then