Deleting My Flying Island - FoE Helper Stats Overview

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7 ай бұрын

WRONG STATS - The stats shown in this video ended up being incorrect. By playihg the game on both mobile and browser, I'm going to start doing exports on a session basis (only on a browser of course) to get the correct numbers. In spite of that, I'm leaving the video up because there have been so many good comments. This is a perfect example of how playing this game and digging in so much can lead to continuous discussion. Bad stats aside, I'm still at peace with having deleted my FI. Also one of my fellow guild members just put it like this:
"I am very likely soon going to delete all these buildings because I want to push my attack as high as possible, even HC and SC are not looking great compared to just regular event buildings now in terms of goods and fps. ToR and FI are horrible for sure."
Worth It? Himeji Castle Temple of Relic Space Carrier Flying Island
Today we look at the Statistics function of the FoE Helper plug-in for my Reward GBs.
There are GBs in th is category I don't have, thus no stats on those.
Watch as I respond in disbelief (sheer horror) 1of HOW LITTLE some of these GBs are putting out over the course of a month or two.

Пікірлер: 85
@jameshoag8295
@jameshoag8295 7 ай бұрын
Your voice is absolutely incredible. Thanks for the good info 👍
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@coleadams567
@coleadams567 7 ай бұрын
Interesting. So I never used this tool on my end, and explored it after watching your video. I'm a newer player and recently built my HC in the last month, leveled it to 58 since then and got my fighting collections at every level. The stats displayed for it were very clearly incorrect. I believe what I'm seeing reflects a loss of data that I've notice in GBG stats every time my computer does a late night update and the browser is closed. Maybe that's a cache setting I have for FOE helper or my browser, but it makes me suspect of long term data collection tools like that. Thanks for the new videos! Love your content, by far the best FOE explainer series I've seen.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting, you called it. I play on mobile AND browser so my numbers were not complete for this video. I've added notes to the description as a disclaimer. Like everything in this game, even the helpers must be taken with a grain of salt. There have been so many good comments I didn't want to take down the video even though I screwed up on the stats. This game is all about those ratios. I think chance GB's in general need to be looked at closer now that so many other solid event buildings are coming out.
@rickrutledge9363
@rickrutledge9363 7 ай бұрын
You are my favorite FoE person on KZfaq, though I watch several others too. You helped me up my game from HMA. I like studies like this one concerning certain GB's and how important they are for us. I'm in Artic now and the entire game has changed for me in a good way. I have noticed that diamond production has slowed to a crawl in nearly every way, and thats not cool... Thank you so much for your videos!
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, really appreciate the feedback. AF is good era to have an SC since it will help develop extra Promethium for the tech tree. Then in OF (which has a very long tech tree) the SC will help again. There is an SC strategy I've heard about where you build it for AF, then flip it frequently to move through the tech tree with less frustration. Then you deleted it and flip it up again for OF. I can see this being useful if you were in a hurry. Diamonds seem a lot more constrained in general now. We now know for sure Inno pulled way back on diamond awards for GbG as well.
@greatozgreatoz5641
@greatozgreatoz5641 7 ай бұрын
You can get to a point with Antiques dealer selling stuff you can start to buy all 6 items just for the Castle System points as well.
@smurfuldurf5350
@smurfuldurf5350 7 ай бұрын
Glad to see you posting again. Welcome back! I also keep HC around just to grow supplies like the previous comment. SC an island I got rid of awhile ago. ToR I keep just to keep feeding the antique shop. I don't really buy anything from there but you never know if they add something in the future hope this helps a bit.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Indeed the ToR does feed the AD and if you end up buying little crappy things you can sell them off, but all that stuff helps your castle points.
@davidbarry6900
@davidbarry6900 7 ай бұрын
Space Carrier and Himeji give a lot of Goods, as well as a decent amount of forge points, and a few diamonds. Totally worth it for me. Interestingly, they also give Rogues, meaning that you safely delete your Alcatraz if you have SC and/or HC, with a high enough attack boost, especially with newer Unit-producing event buildings like the Vibrant Sunflower Oilpress, ViceRoy's Villa, and upgraded Winter Wonderland Pyramid.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Thx for the comment. I can't ever delete Traz since I burn up at least 600 troops a day fighting in GbG to triple digit attrition levels.
@robertstorey9606
@robertstorey9606 7 ай бұрын
I agree I have deleted my trap in all worlds
@davidbarry6900
@davidbarry6900 7 ай бұрын
@@robertstorey9606 I can't quite bring myself around to deleting it yet on 2 worlds. The happiness might be more important than the troops in future? However, I simply didn't build it on my 3rd - and don't miss it either. That said, I don't do nearly as many battles as FoeAdvance.
@realandrewhatfield
@realandrewhatfield 7 ай бұрын
Congratulations! I started last year and quickly realized that fighting focus was the most efficient. I have never built a ToR, and only plan to build the SC when I get to AF/OF. You did make me reconsider building the HC though :)
@joshsmith3598
@joshsmith3598 7 ай бұрын
Don't do it. Use that space for special buildings. The other thing with an HC? It is costly to level up. You're better off using those Fps to level up the GBs that are vital to city growth: Arc, CF, Traz. CF was beginning to wane but new GBG and new GE have brought it roaring back. GBG that requires fighting at higher attrition than ever means you need a bunch of troops. Arc is the key though. Higher you get it more those snipes, taking spots in 1.9 threads & helping guild pay off. To me all other GBs with exception of SC in AF/OF and SOZ because it is so cheap....are nice to have but not necessary. I see far too often players toss GBs in the sticks then try to spread their Fps out. It is far better to concentrate them and build the foundation of your city before you add the nice to have.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 6 ай бұрын
I'm actually considering a deletion of my HC. It's so massive, and being a figher I get so many hundreds of rewards from that pathway, the HC is on my near future chopping block. Just posting a video today about my first round of GB deletions.
@dollarchy
@dollarchy 7 ай бұрын
Im still a fan of Himeji Castle since outside of GBG there arent many good ways to accumulate supplies - also the goods and fps are nice. I recently deleted the ToR and never built the Flying Island. Never was a fan of the Flying Island. I also recently deleted my AI Core and my Atomium recently since we have no need for extra SAT guild goods
@MT-xp7pe
@MT-xp7pe 7 ай бұрын
Good Overview as to worth of GBs .On the bye where in Helper is that view found
@quoras1887
@quoras1887 7 ай бұрын
I dont know, maybe it is really bad luck, but a Himeji at your level (91+) should produce about 90 Fps per Day and 170 Goods. Maybe your Helper didnt count all the data, because it only counts if you play on this specific pc, if you play on multiple pcs or mobile your data is lost. For Space Carrier ist the same at lvl (91+) it should provide 90 Fps and 170 Goods per Day + the other rewards. But you have to play everyday for that and make every 10 fights/10 negos per day. Which can be hard for negos if you are not in Mars. But doing negos every day is important to lvl up your Castle of the Castle System. My TOR is only slightly higher, but still has way better results. Here its the same if you collect relics on mobile or other pc they dont count in the helper. Its important to understand how leveling it works. The Chance on getting more relics declines in the higher lvls and only rasis 0,25 every few lvls, but the chance to get gold over jade relics increases every level and the chance of getting silver decreases. If you dont know what to do with antiques dealer stuff: Buy everything everyday and resell it. It provides you with castle points which will ultimatly result in nice (permanent) bonuses. Flying island. I would agree, it was always very niche, but now with better and better event buildings it is hard to justify. I will probably delete it soon too.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
You called it, because I play on mobile and browser my numbers were not complete for this video. I've added notes to the description as a disclaimer. There have been so many good comments I didn't want to take down the video even though I screwed up on the stats. This game is all about those ratios. I think chance GB's in general need to be looked at closer now that so many other solid event buildings are coming out. I hate nego's, so my SC might be on the chopping block regardless of stats.
@Eztoez
@Eztoez 5 ай бұрын
Do not be afraid to delete GBs. There are a handful you should keep. Most of them simply aren't worth building or keeping. You do not need GBs that produce forge points. You can make more FPS doing 10 minutes of GBG than any of them will give you. Get a bunch of recent event buildings and you'll be just fine. Even if you lose 75% by deleting a level 100 CDM so what ? 100 makes no difference when your attack is 4K+. You'll make the rank points loss back in a single season of GBG.
@stonefistdonny
@stonefistdonny 7 ай бұрын
My level 17 flying Island gave me 50 diamonds 4 times last month.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 6 ай бұрын
Not terrible, but I think the Seed Vault is a better play (diamonds to donuts).
@wanawoll
@wanawoll 7 ай бұрын
3 days ago was at the same point and without Helpers data. Deleted FI, SC, GT, SG all was @~70lvl. Now I'm sure and delete HC and ToR aswell. Thank you for the vid.!
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 6 ай бұрын
See latest vids on deletions. I'm holding on the ToR for certain reasons, but decided to chop many more lately.
@angelfury8182
@angelfury8182 6 ай бұрын
What are your thought on the Seed Vault? So far, I like mine.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 5 ай бұрын
I did a video about it before. I love it and its one of the best buildings in the game. I have mine leveled up into the 80s
@joshsmith3598
@joshsmith3598 7 ай бұрын
It isn't just HC, ToR but given the influx of special buildings is the CDM worth the space or further investment? SOZ just on it size will always be a solid GB. But other GBs like the TA don't look worth at all given the cost it takes to upgrade and the special buildings that provide a cheaper alternative. So much it feels it getting power crept out. I mean Harvest sets used to be the gold standard for attack but now? Are they worth it, when you're getting 2 x 2 buildings in events that require no roads that surpass the wheat fields etc? Game it feels is racing away with special building stats and it is making choices tougher and tougher with space. I have always preferred the minimalist approach to get most bang for buck in AA and AD. I believe that is still way to go as it also allows concentration of Fps on a less GBs so easier to level them. Yet...given new attrition in GBG is there a point that increasing AA and AD is a waste of time? So much needs to be addressed game is in a real flux. For the flaws in old GBG and events it provided a pretty clear path for progress, now that path feels muddled and has made the AD and Tavern almost useless. I mean with AAs approaching 5k+ who needs a 30% boost? Even in events despite all the shiny new toys there are serious flaws. Daily specials are becoming less and less attractive. Also mini game rewards are often useless, BPs, drummers etc why are we getting them well past their usefulness? So many questions for Inno to answer and I fear their "solution" will always be ways to milk more money from us rather than creating a more coherent game.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 6 ай бұрын
Great comment, just posting a video now about my current round of GB deletions. Right on.
@jeffdeneui3681
@jeffdeneui3681 7 ай бұрын
It depends on how you spend your time in FoE and what are your goals? Do you just log in to collect each day? or do you do a lot of GBG and GvG? Also, what buildings do you have to replace them? The GBs don't have to be your most productive buildings...just more productive than your worst buildings. Your numbers seem way off from what's listed in the wiki. Last I checked the wiki was fairly accurate...was there a stealth nerf? For example, for the HC you show about 28.5 FP/day and 26 goods/day. You should be getting around 90 FP and 170 goods/day (on average). You might want to track your outcomes for 10 days or a month to see if FoE tracker is right. The difference is so great it could easily sway your decision the wrong way. Also, what are your goals? Do you care about city ranking points? A leveled GB is worth tons more city ranking points than a special building. If you care about city ranking points then a GB would have to have significantly bad efficiency to warrant it's removal (note: I've removed a Capitol and ToB). GBs represent a significant investment of resources and time...not to be thrown out casually :) The HC and SC are virtually identical (other than the spoils of war vs diplomatic kits). I use diplomacy in GE to use my 10 SC chances (since I can use my worthless tavern silver to get an extra chance) and HC chances in GBG, PvP tower, etc... {note: the last breakpoint for HC, SC and BG is level 91. So, imo, it's worth reaching the last break point but not any more levels}
@johnsimpson8424
@johnsimpson8424 7 ай бұрын
SC and HC give about the same rewards. I use the 4 lesser exploration sites in titan to negotiate as they are cheap with respect to goods, and I don't need to spend any diamonds to finish them. It does not take any time to do 4 every few hours to collect all the rewards. I would keep the tor as I always go to at least level 4 and you might as well get the extra rewards for no extra work. I never built flying island as it looked like a tota waste of space. As the bldg creep accellerates all the great bldgs start to lose their luster. Attack bldgs that give attack bonus can be matched with 3 bldgs from current events. But I don't delete them as I spent thousands of fp's over the years and just when I would start to remove them, inno would upgrade the points to reflect the inflation in the game.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 6 ай бұрын
That's just it, the power creep is obsoleting a majority of OG great buildings. Just posted a vid about my first round of GB deletions and a city rebuild.
@dorothylyon12
@dorothylyon12 7 ай бұрын
I’ve never built FI, it didn’t look like a good return for space. I’ve deleted my SC in my main world. The special goods production is useless as you get above about SAAB- you can continue to produce P & O special goods if you need them from your ships, but the SC will give you lots of those instead of higher age special goods that you need. Basic strategy- wait to build SC until you hit AF, run it up to about 40 there, run it to 58-61 in Oceanic, delete it in SAAB or SAV. In Space Ages just camp an extra week or so to get the special goods you need from that era thru SAT. Also, I hate negotiations.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
I agree the FI wasn't a good RoI on space. This game is all about those ratios. I think chance GB's in general need to be looked at closer now that so many other solid event buildings are coming out. I hate nego's as well, so my SC might be on the chopping block regardless of stats.
@kendog0731
@kendog0731 7 ай бұрын
I use my TOR in a swap with a guildmate to just boost fp inventory. Any rewards us just a bonus.
@ThreatLevelMDNGHT
@ThreatLevelMDNGHT 6 ай бұрын
looking at your drops makes me think you're playing on mobile / different devices, could this be the case?
@ThreatLevelMDNGHT
@ThreatLevelMDNGHT 6 ай бұрын
Ive just read the comments and you've seen to already figured it out 😅 I wouldnt look at your personal experiences regardless, best off looking at the avg gain from everything; a great source for this would be the video UBERnerd made on the topic of GBs productions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdFyq8WTut_Dd6M.htmlsi=2eqiDnrG2NapXfjv
@dennisradoor
@dennisradoor 7 ай бұрын
this data is wrong, 120 forge points in 1 month, that's what you get per week AT LEAST
@tictaczac024
@tictaczac024 7 ай бұрын
I agree Dennis, I have a very low level Flying Island lvl 5 and FoE Helper is showing loads more rewards for the same time period. @FoE Advance Have you cleared the internet history, or cleaned? FoE Helper resets.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
You called it, I play on mobile and browser, so my numbers were not complete for this video. I've added notes to the description as a disclaimer. There have been so many good comments I didn't want to take down the video even though I screwed up on the stats. This game is all about those ratios. I think chance GB's in general need to be looked at closer now that so many other solid event buildings are coming out. I hate nego's, so my SC might be on the chopping block regardless of stats.
@tictaczac024
@tictaczac024 7 ай бұрын
Can you get FL back, or do you still feel its a waste of 24 squares? @@foeadvance7024
@Jolly51
@Jolly51 7 ай бұрын
Deleted my ToR in SAAB….Once in Titan dropped SC. Both were waste of space
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
While on the bubble, keeping mine for now since I'm getting one ups, store buildings and junk to sell in the AD which does feed the castle points.
@rherm123
@rherm123 7 ай бұрын
I would delete that Babel before anything.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 6 ай бұрын
Yep it's gone. Just posting a video about deleting a number of GBs. I was keeping it around out of laziness to fulfill good collections for event quests. But its toast now along with the SMB, SC, LOA and so on.
@glorgau
@glorgau 7 ай бұрын
You didn't say anything about the Colosseum. Everybody can use more happiness in their life. ;-)
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Lol very true. I can't believe the one GB (other than a Delphi) that players have ripped on for years might now be of some interest.
@patcondell2190
@patcondell2190 7 ай бұрын
So Space Carrier is not especially productive when you don't do negotiations? In other news, bears defecate in woodland areas
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Yes the SC only provides chance rewards based on negotiations. It's other primary utility is to produce special era specific resources for AF/OF - mostly useful when going through respective tech tree's of those eras to do research faster.
@patcondell2190
@patcondell2190 7 ай бұрын
As you do not regularly do the full complement of negos that rather negates any value in the data that you present on the SC rewards. I personally do nego every day and find the rewards easily worth it (at level 91). However I can also easily understand wanting to save time by not doing them in which case yes the SC should be deleted when there is no further need for the special resources.
@matyasmoravetz7131
@matyasmoravetz7131 7 ай бұрын
SC is also nice, when comes new age, because every 70itch special goods more are nice too get. But I also negotiate daily on the 5 exploration sites - so no probs to use all charges. FI I now have only for easthetics. Himeji is still nice for me, it gives me something and I always fight. ToR I will maybe delete in future.
@LSGolly
@LSGolly 7 ай бұрын
Hi, I just came across this video, sorry to say but you don't play that much. looking at your stats for the 2 months you selected and my stats over 1 month for TOR, SC, HC and even incidents in FOE Helper, I have more than double the rewards than you do in half the time. my GBG's are - TOR LVL 80, HC LVL 62 and SC LVL 91. Never built the Flying Island, did not think it was worth building even though it is one of the best looking GB's.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your response. I'm posting this comment on the top description line to avoid further confusion. WRONG STATS - The stats shown in this video ended up being incorrect. I'm going to start doing exports on a session basis to get the correct numbers. In spite of that, I'm leaving the video up because there have been so many good comments. This is a perfect example of how playing this game and digging in so much can lead to continuous discussion. Bad stats aside, I'm still at peace with having deleted my FI. Also one of my fellow guild members just put it like this: "I am very likely soon going to delete all these buildings because I want to push my attack as high as possible, even HC and SC are not looking great compared to just regular event buildings now in terms of goods and fps. ToR and FI are horrible for sure."
@blrblr1
@blrblr1 7 ай бұрын
I dont know how you can have such terribly low numbers in your FoE helper. Specially for Himeji... either you have some data loss or you were using himeji charges on your phone and therefore it is missing from helper. Because my himeji is 91 and when I opened my helper from 1.-30. November these are my results... 50 goods 27 10 forge points 23 5x rogue 20 50 forge points 17 125 goods 14 200 forge points 6 10x rogue 5 50 Diamonds 4 You have in TOTAL 12 rewards in a month (which is not possible to get such a low result), I have 116 rewards. Conclusion: your numbers are way off base and totally wrong.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
It was data loss Thanks for your response. I'm posting this comment on the top description line to avoid further confusion. WRONG STATS - The stats shown in this video ended up being incorrect. I'm going to start doing exports on a session basis to get the correct numbers. In spite of that, I'm leaving the video up because there have been so many good comments. This is a perfect example of how playing this game and digging in so much can lead to continuous discussion. Bad stats aside, I'm still at peace with having deleted my FI. Also one of my fellow guild members just put it like this: "I am very likely soon going to delete all these buildings because I want to push my attack as high as possible, even HC and SC are not looking great compared to just regular event buildings now in terms of goods and fps. ToR and FI are horrible for sure."
@JohnWick-zl5oc
@JohnWick-zl5oc 7 ай бұрын
do not delete ToR! with new events overpowered buildings u will replace ALOT of buildings in most cases very often, so store item from ToR is great to use for redesign remove old stuff (and sell them) then redesign layout if nec. then plant the new better buildings, ToR also feeds the Antiques dealer with items and is great for upgrading all stuff when you age up, it should never be deleted, ever. Tor feeds the AD wich feed castle wich will add more bonuses to your town without using any space increasing your overall efficiancy, its alot better than many think.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Very true about the ToR. The only way to really get the castle bonuses up is to constantly sell stuff from the AD.
@WillPittRFC
@WillPittRFC 7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised the returns on your HC are so "low". I seem to hit the 200FP returns about twice a month, so maybe you just had a bad month for it (my HC is 91). I'm still in Tomorrow era so haven't built the SC yet, and I've given up on the settlements having done the first four, and can't be bothered slogging through the Mughals so no need for the FI. ToR still has it's uses and the odd 100FPs here and there are always useful, and it's still fairly cheap, though I'd left it about 65 as I was trying to hit more gold relics for the FP returns.
@michaelblitz5311
@michaelblitz5311 7 ай бұрын
I agree. my results on all of my gb's were more than double yours, I understand you don't negotiate, I make sure to negotiate the world map as that is usually very easy and uses previous age goods. but my FI is far less than double yours, (just got it today into the self leveling zone for the 1.95 thread ) and I got 35 shards for November, while the FI averaged about level 20 for the month. But my HC was so much higher than yours. I hit 7-200 fp for November 6 in October and 7 in September.
@joshsmith3598
@joshsmith3598 7 ай бұрын
GBG changes really slammed the HC. I averaged close to 10k fights a season in old GBG and HC seemed very lucrative. Thought TBF I didn't check stats. Now...with attrition restricting # of fights HC simply wasn't worth it. I deleted it few seasons into new GBG. It hurt but it was right decision. The special building space it occupied easily surpassed what I was getting plus they also give AA and AD I wasn't getting in that space.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your response. I'm posting this comment on the top description line to avoid further confusion. WRONG STATS - The stats shown in this video ended up being incorrect. I'm going to start doing exports on a session basis to get the correct numbers. In spite of that, I'm leaving the video up because there have been so many good comments. This is a perfect example of how playing this game and digging in so much can lead to continuous discussion. Bad stats aside, I'm still at peace with having deleted my FI. Also one of my fellow guild members just put it like this: "I am very likely soon going to delete all these buildings because I want to push my attack as high as possible, even HC and SC are not looking great compared to just regular event buildings now in terms of goods and fps. ToR and FI are horrible for sure."
@Priestess0fTheMoon
@Priestess0fTheMoon 7 ай бұрын
i think your data provided from the plugin is not accurate, it could be due to some caches or i don't know, but i can say for sure i get a lot more rewards from my HC(77) and SC(76) and ToR (80) for a month and i am not always playing on the PC to collect that data inside the plugin
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your response. I'm posting this comment on the top description line to avoid further confusion. WRONG STATS - The stats shown in this video ended up being incorrect. I'm going to start doing exports on a session basis to get the correct numbers. In spite of that, I'm leaving the video up because there have been so many good comments. This is a perfect example of how playing this game and digging in so much can lead to continuous discussion. Bad stats aside, I'm still at peace with having deleted my FI. Also one of my fellow guild members just put it like this: "I am very likely soon going to delete all these buildings because I want to push my attack as high as possible, even HC and SC are not looking great compared to just regular event buildings now in terms of goods and fps. ToR and FI are horrible for sure."
@saltyragequit1234
@saltyragequit1234 7 ай бұрын
unless you have very low ToR level your stats is wrong i think my stats form ToR from last month (level 83) - november: units = 1.1 unit per day + 1.3 rouge per day goods = 43.3 goods per day FP = 22 fp per day reno kits = 2 in month one up kit = 6 in month store building = 3 in month other buildings = 39 in month total (but yes - in general I agree that its not great - but im out of store buildings and reno and one up i should also need if they realease new age and have one up 100 of buildings perhaps in future...)
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the response. There was an issue with the data batch being incomplete when I recorded this. A bit of egg on face, however I'm still happy to have killed off the FI. Uber Nerd recently backed that as well!
@JustRideTheVibe
@JustRideTheVibe 7 ай бұрын
I definitely think some of those rewards stats are incorrect on FoE Helper. As someone mentioned in a comment down below, it could be a cache problem or something to do with how the tool handles updates (both to the game itself and maybe even one's own computer?). Not sure exactly what the reason is, but the poor return from your ToR, being as high level as it is, just doesn't add up IMO. I definitely think you should be seeing quite a few more 100 FP and one up kit/reno rewards than 1 or 2 in a month, that just doesn't make any sense to me at all. Mine is only at like 66 or 67 and I definitely get more than what was displayed for you, and by a pretty comfortable margin. On the SC thing, I have mine around the same level as my HC for now (59 and 58 respectively), and one's basically a carbon copy of the other in terms of reward rates (and reward type as well, for the most part). I'm in OF right now, so it definitely helps getting some extra Oricalchum, but I also just love the fact that I basically have 2 Himejis now, and with the Castle system in place, it now makes sense to actually try and negotiate enough to at least burn all of your charges every day (when GE/GBG are running). I definitely think it's worth the FP investment at least up to 58 or so (for that 9th charge), though not too sure beyond that level what the added marginal benefit is. Regardless, those GB's are like little slot machines in your city, and they add a level of excitement to logging in each day. I also built an FI for the same kind of excitement, but the rewards are truly pitiful, and I'm probably going to delete mine soon as well. The ONLY reason I even have it at this point is to liven up the cultural settlements just a tad, because they really are such a draaaaaaag.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
The stats were not correct. I added comments to the video desc. as a disclaimer. Still important to look at certain GB's for value to your gameplay.
@henrytopham9681
@henrytopham9681 7 ай бұрын
Dude , you rock , but your stats are pants! Forge on!
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your response. I'm posting this comment on the top description line to avoid further confusion. WRONG STATS - The stats shown in this video ended up being incorrect. I'm going to start doing exports on a session basis to get the correct numbers. In spite of that, I'm leaving the video up because there have been so many good comments. This is a perfect example of how playing this game and digging in so much can lead to continuous discussion. Bad stats aside, I'm still at peace with having deleted my FI. Also one of my fellow guild members just put it like this: "I am very likely soon going to delete all these buildings because I want to push my attack as high as possible, even HC and SC are not looking great compared to just regular event buildings now in terms of goods and fps. ToR and FI are horrible for sure."
@robertstorey9606
@robertstorey9606 7 ай бұрын
I dont level a Tor past 50 .it's a good troop producer and good for rogues ,due too recent changes I found the best thing I did was delete a trap in all my worlds .. HC is great all round .. but again I dont go past 58 ..
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 6 ай бұрын
Lot's of chatter in my guild right now about deleting ToRs and the HC. I'm not on that track as of yet. I think all has to do with gameplay preferences.
@robertstorey9606
@robertstorey9606 6 ай бұрын
totally agree @@foeadvance7024
@saltyragequit1234
@saltyragequit1234 7 ай бұрын
also HC stats is wrong it think :D - you probably had foe helper update and all data is erased on it i would imagine :)
@saltyragequit1234
@saltyragequit1234 7 ай бұрын
HC last month level 92: 10 fp x 39 50 goods x 29 5x rouge x 18 50 fp x 11 200 fp x 9 250 goods x 7 152 goods x 5 50 diamonds x 2 500 goods x 2
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your response. I'm posting this comment on the top description line to avoid further confusion. WRONG STATS - The stats shown in this video ended up being incorrect. I'm going to start doing exports on a session basis to get the correct numbers. In spite of that, I'm leaving the video up because there have been so many good comments. This is a perfect example of how playing this game and digging in so much can lead to continuous discussion. Bad stats aside, I'm still at peace with having deleted my FI. Also one of my fellow guild members just put it like this: "I am very likely soon going to delete all these buildings because I want to push my attack as high as possible, even HC and SC are not looking great compared to just regular event buildings now in terms of goods and fps. ToR and FI are horrible for sure."
@balauzer
@balauzer 7 ай бұрын
Dude, your stats are obviously wrong. A level 97 HC should give you nearly 5 rewards per day on average, totaling around 150 per month if you fight daily. Your are showing 12 HC rewards for a month. Doesn't that sound off to you?
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your response. I'm posting this comment on the top description line to avoid further confusion. WRONG STATS - The stats shown in this video ended up being incorrect. I'm going to start doing exports on a session basis to get the correct numbers. In spite of that, I'm leaving the video up because there have been so many good comments. This is a perfect example of how playing this game and digging in so much can lead to continuous discussion. Bad stats aside, I'm still at peace with having deleted my FI. Also one of my fellow guild members just put it like this: "I am very likely soon going to delete all these buildings because I want to push my attack as high as possible, even HC and SC are not looking great compared to just regular event buildings now in terms of goods and fps. ToR and FI are horrible for sure."
@wirthynek
@wirthynek 7 ай бұрын
Getting 8 shards in a month from flying island seems wrong. Are you collecting your shards on your phone? If your island is 60 with 37% chance, you should have like... 60 fragments or more.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the response. There was an issue with the data batch being incomplete when I recorded this. A bit of egg on face, however I'm still happy to have killed off the FI. Uber Nerd recently backed that as well!
@edhahaz
@edhahaz 7 ай бұрын
One month of data for these buildings is just not that much. It's true they suck however.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Correct. I determined the data was incomplete. Posted a disclaimer on the video description.
@Isaac-un4cn
@Isaac-un4cn 3 ай бұрын
Your FoE helper plug-in is giving you false information. There's no way you're only getting 12 rewards from HC in an entire month. At level 91 the HC gives roughly 4.9 rewards per day. 12 rewards sounds more like 3 days, not 30 days. Same with TOR, at level 90+ you should be getting 20+ relics per GE, there's no way those numbers are possibly accurate.Those numbers look like they're from a single GE and not from 4 GE's. If you do the math on TOR, it gives ~160 FP per week on average, at level 97.
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 3 ай бұрын
Right. Data cache was messed up. I posted in the description there was an error. Thanks for mentioning.
@T3Dist
@T3Dist 7 ай бұрын
Really, deleted the FI yet keeping the ToB, SMB, and Cape? The FI is much smaller and gives way better when it does produce then those do (less CC). Talking about the SC, ya I despise negotiating as well, but it gives the 200 FP packs it seems in groupings, one month will be none, the next month will be 3 a week. The most important thing to consider, what are you going to put in it's place? I see you have tons of room in your city now, why delete anything? You are sitting here with 4 crows nests.. Guessing these are the targets of your BG? You would be better off leveling the SV and using the BG attempts on the higher bldgs such as the labatory and high FP or goods bldgs. Also please please please would ppl stop posting 'expert' videos with a Tower on Conjunction connected to a road
@foeadvance7024
@foeadvance7024 7 ай бұрын
Yeah really. As an aside, the Flying Island taken to Lvl 60 will cost 30,941 FP @1.9 Similar arguments can be made about the diminishing returns of the Cape (as apparently you infer). If you care to look closer, you'll see that the city is undergoing an ongoing transformation (as any does) to accommodate the ever-growing expansion of Golden Vineyards, Grannys, Cider Gardens, ToConj's, Towers of Champions thanks to guild efforts, and the like. There are currently many buildings coming out of storage that will reliably offer what the FI was giving and more over given periods of time either due to their battle buffs (increasing attrition for more fights), or other daily resource creations. Battling 2 to 4000 fights per season offers many rewards, and that's just where I choose to put my energy along with the ongoing real estate shuffle. The SMB and Cape are surely on the chopping block, but that will come when I decide to make videos about the why, and why it wasn't a good choice to build them in the first place. Just because the ToConj is sitting on a road doesn't mean it has to be. Bigger fish to fry right now. If you'd like to setup a channel to help others out with what you've learned, please do, so that others can wax sarcastic on your city in the comments without any real context.
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