Dell M5010 Laptop GPU Fix Using Re-Flow

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For many display related problems on laptops a re-flow could be used to fix the issue it is having.
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Reflow soldering is a process in which a solder paste (a sticky mixture of powdered solder and flux) is used to temporarily attach one or several electrical components to their contact pads, after which the entire assembly is subjected to controlled heat, which melts the solder, permanently connecting the joint. Heating may be accomplished by passing the assembly through a reflow oven or under an infrared lamp or by soldering individual joints with a hot air pencil.
Reflow soldering is the most common method of attaching surface mount components to a circuit board. The goal of the reflow process is to melt the solder and heat the adjoining surfaces, without overheating and damaging the electrical components. In the conventional reflow soldering process, there are usually four stages, called "zones", each having a distinct thermal profile: preheat, thermal soak (often shortened to just soak), reflow, and cooling.

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@toddneeds4969 11 жыл бұрын

I had little faith heating would fix an issue over-heating caused in the first place, but it did work. Thanks man!

@maxm_0 11 жыл бұрын

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME,!!!!!! I was so close to turning this laptop into a long range rifle target. My wife's machine would only give the "7 beeps" with no display on bootup. I saw your video last week and decided to try it, worked flawless. Thank you very much for sharing...

@richardleerodgers5303 9 жыл бұрын

very clever!! as any real Tech knows these motherboards are manufactured using wave solder technology where all the chips are glued to the board and sent through a liquid solder bath for a few seconds. If there is any minor imperfection in the lands on the board could be dust or just bad solder flow. I applaud the guy that posted this for his resourcefulness.

@johnnythegeek 9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@richardleerodgers5303 9 жыл бұрын

@CPRcomputersDirect 11 жыл бұрын

Hi, Thanks for the video. I just wanted to offer a couple of tips. 1) Remove the glue on the corners of the GPU before re-flow 2) Run a no clean flux under the chip ( like Kester 951 ) 3) A good pre-heat is a crucial part to a proper re-flow. 4) Temp control is very important. If this is something you do often I would recommend a Hot air station. Please feel free to take a look at my m5010 GPU reflow video.

@montyhopeful 11 жыл бұрын

DUDE!!! You are the freaking man! I have the M5010 and had the 7 beep code.(black screen on start up) I watched your video and It worked!! Its unselfish people like yourself who take the time to share your knowledge and post your vids that helps save the do it your self people mega bucks! I am appreciative my friend, Thanks!!!

@ouethojlkjn 8 жыл бұрын

I decided not to apply the heat gun treatment but followed all the other advice and re-assembled. My Dell M5010 exhibited the same garbled screen for about 30 seconds but after it decided to reboot, the screen has come back as normal! It has been running and downloading and applying months worth of windows updates and so far has been absolutely fine. I also took the opportunity to check the fan wasn't clogged (it wasn't) and one other thing - the three screws in the triangular arrangement, they were not tight. I think this was a factor with my laptop too? (I screwed them down). Many thanks for the clear tutorial.

@ouethojlkjn 8 жыл бұрын

Also, one cooling trick I have used in the past - remove the DVD/CD unit if you don't use it routinely. The locating screw in this case can be found under the memory cover. Remove the screw and then ease out the drive from the side. You then have a large void which will let the air in easier and help dissipate the heat. You can put the drive back in on the occasions where you might need it.

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Glad it worked out for you. Thanks for watching!

@maxm_0 11 жыл бұрын

Mine was the same way, as if no paste applied during Dell assembly. I cleaned the proc, applied heat with heat-gun, applied the paste and reassembled. Works perfect now.

@B2BDingDongTongB2B 11 жыл бұрын

I have tried this before on motherboards with other peoples guides all failed. I came upon yours and decided to try again and it worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks a million!!!!

@johnniecaps 11 жыл бұрын

Hi Johnny, Thank you for the tech tip. I used a heat gun with an output of aprox 500 deg. I almost expected the motherboard to curl up like a potato chip but luckily, it didn't. I reflowed all 3 chips, heating them for about 10-15 seconds. I did not hold the gun over the chips steadily, but waved it on and off, while measuring the temp w/an infrared laser thermometer. 215 degrees seems to have done the trick. I left the board mounted and made a tin foil shield w/a square cut out.

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

It does make a bit of a difference. You can pick thermal grease at Radio Shack. If you do it again, hit it with the hit gun for a little bit longer.

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Glad it worked out. Thanks for watching!

@Desmopedro350z 4 жыл бұрын

One of the BEST repair videos I have seen on KZfaq! GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!

@johnnythegeek 12 жыл бұрын

Yeah I guess I should have. It looked like it had an excessive amount on there. Maybe I will later on. Thanks for the input and for watching!

@joaoluizaranhadefaria 11 жыл бұрын

Worked like a charm !!! M5010, 7 beeps... Anomalys still, 2 boots to get video, but i had nothing so, by far the best solution ever !!!! Best regards and thanks !!!!

@NickArnette 10 жыл бұрын

It worked just as you said. I wish you would have mentioned what heat setting you were using on your heat gun and also wondering why you didn't remove and replace the old thermal paste on the graphics chip? Thanks so much though. The actual part of doing the reflow was very well explained. I followed your example to a tee and it worked! You saved a good computer from being thrown away!

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Dang. You totally scored on that! Wish I could have found a laptop in the trash! It was probably a laptop for a company or business and they just take the HD for security purposes. If the video issues happen again you can hit it with the heat gun for a longer period of time. Try to make a heat shield to protect all the other parts and only expose the graphics chip. You can use foam board and aluminium foil. Thanks for watching!

@matthewcrowther2701 11 жыл бұрын

Thought i would post to say thanks. My wife's laptop had the dreaded 7 beeps, was all set to buy a new one but thought it couldn't hurt to give it a go. Wasn't too hopeful but followed your vid and there we go. One working laptop. It even works better than before as there were some graphical issues. Computer experts said they couldn't fix this as it "needed a new motherboard". Next time ill direct them to this! Cheers!

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

From what others have told me, this solution worked for them. They also mentioned that they got a black screen with 7 beeps too. You don't really have much to loose in my opinion. Give it a shot and heat up the chip for about 1 minute if you use a hair dryer. Try to protect the other parts by making a shield to block the rest of the board and only blast the ship. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

@MarkPrimo 11 жыл бұрын

AWESOME. You did a great job on this video. Right to the point, sped up the screw removals, showed me just what I needed to know. I had 7 beeps, no boot, like many others. This worked great. I bought a solder iron rework station to do this. I don't know what the optimum temp is, but I used about 320 degrees F for 30 seconds. I hit the underside for 15 seconds and the CPU and chipset processor too just for good measure. Dell should pay you and link to this video.

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

The heat gun is to melt the metal contacts underneath the the chip. The top of the chips should be cleaned of impurities.

@Hearsay807 11 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I had the exact same corrupt video, and this fixed it. I just upgraded my hard drive and memory, after my hard drive died, so I didn't want to lose this laptop just yet.

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Ususally generic stuff or anything that is made of nano diamond or anything that does not require curing time. Thanks for watching and sorry for the late reply!

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Glad it worked. Thanks for watching!

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

any type of thermal paste will work fine. Artic silver is popular but I like to use nano diamond compound.

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sorry for the late reply!

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip. Thanks for watching!

@distortionwarrior 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good video, I had to do this for a family member. I have a full solder station with hot air, but opted to try your hot air gun like you recommended. Worked just as well and a good deal faster. Very professional video- keep them coming!

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

I can't really say because it would depend on how often you move your laptop around. The more flexing it does, the sooner it will need to be done again.If it happens again, hit it with a little more heat for a longer amount of time. Good luck.

@TerraformingMaster 9 жыл бұрын

Wrong procedure: this is not a reflow. It will work for awhile, but not permanently. To do it right, you have to bake the board at 165 degrees F in an oven for 24 hours to remove moisture that would otherwise make molten solder explode, then shoot liquid soldering flux under the chip with a needle dispenser (from digikey), then heat with the gun until about 20 seconds after the solder on components surrounding the chip has obviously melted. If the procedure in this video had actually gotten the solder got enough to melt, the solder would have exploded from the trapped moisture.

@user-lw1cf8qk4m 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I had no heatgun and nothing to lose so candle worked perfectly)

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Try connecting an external monitor to the laptop first then turn it on. If the image displays on the external monitor fine with no problems then the lights in the LCD panels are not working and you would have to replace the whole LCD panel. If the image does not display on the external monitor correctly then you might try to re-flow the chip like in this video. Good luck.

@ssenterprises561 10 жыл бұрын

nice video, good job explaining without dragging on

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

I would say to clean and reflow the chip. And yes add a little bit of new thermal paste. Good luck.

@timj3277 10 жыл бұрын

Hi I thought your vid was really good. Very clear and well presented. There is another vid on KZfaq and the guy uses foil folded four or five times with a hole in it the same size of the GPU to protect the surrounds. He then heats the PGU with a pencil torch to I think 450f? He claims he did this for his mother and again I think, on another dell and it was still going four years later. Anyway thanks again I will be giving this a go.

@johnnythegeek 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I do also recommend making a shield to protect the rest of the board.

@johnnythegeek 12 жыл бұрын

It would be similar but certain screws and the position of the gpu would be a little different.

@pimpablo 11 жыл бұрын

Wow you are a life Saver! I did this procedure and it sure did fix my notebook. Thanks alot. You really saved me alot of money!

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Most likely this video will help but the steps to accessing your model will probably be different. Try this at your own risk and try taking the hard drive out first and backup important files, then try to do the reflow. Good luck.

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

It is not permanent. Eventually, the more you use your laptop by carrying it around, the more flexing the parts inside will experience. Also, just sitting on your desktop the chips will heat up and expand then cool and contract. The constant usage will loosen the chip and it will detach again. How well you reflow it will determine the longevity of the reflow.. The spudger came from iFixit website. They sell a really great kit! Good luck.

@jayl911 11 жыл бұрын

Another laptop salvaged (for now, crossing fingers). Thank you!!!

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@kentgale8753 10 жыл бұрын

This worked for me. Back in business. Thanks for the video.

@lou03915025 12 жыл бұрын

oh one more thing i'm trying to get the ketpad off and i don't see any little areas to click intoany ohther suggestions. i got the rebuilding of the desktop down-packed and your video just solidified my work, and i will be starting college in jan. to get a degree in this work, so maybe i'll be able to return the favor. errors are just ways for finding improvement.

@user-lt3pj6gc2w 9 жыл бұрын

thank you so much for this wonderful tutorial. my dell n5010 laptop is beeping 8 beeps with a black screen. Is this problem is similar to the one you fix?? I hope you will answer me

@terripullman6886 11 жыл бұрын

I thank you very much for taking the time to reply to me. I watched your video, and it was so helpful I thought I could try it, and like you said what have I got to lose. I found a guy that will do the same thing for $40, which to me is worth it, but I plan on watching him do it..I have been ripped off so many times because I'm an older female and don't know that much about computers, but with your videos that will change..I want to be able to fix things for myself if possible..I'll kit..thanks!

@SethDStanley 11 жыл бұрын

Thank you SO MUCH! I thought my computer was gone for good, and I don't have the income to get a new one and have music projects due for work and...man this video saved my bacon! You rock :)

@Smedley895 12 жыл бұрын

Damn... i wish i knew how to do this a few months ago i spent £90 which is around $170 to get my laptop re-flowed :( nice video anyway keep up the good work :D

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thanks for watching!

@amssabith98 7 жыл бұрын

thank you so much ! I was pissed of with my pc. With your help I made work good ! Thanks for your video! Do more videos !

@Henwen2 11 жыл бұрын

You rule! Thank you so much for making this video. It worked like a charm!

@johnnythegeek 12 жыл бұрын

nothing to lose so take it apart and investigate. Take a look at the capacitors to see if they are blown.

@edgarsabolins8751 8 жыл бұрын

Known technique, but it involves lot of risks - especially your tutorial. First of all, don't ever recommend people to use an ordinary heatgun on an unprepared board and without using a temperature sensor. Some of the folks may think, that they can repeat this very same procedure for longer than 10-15 seconds. In that case it'll most probably result in a: 1) deformed or melted plastic components (for example those ram slots, or even a CPU socket); 2) moved or blown away SMD components. (if a hot air melts the solder under nearby SMDs, you just have to be lucky, if you don't mess something up) 3) overcooked GPU chip and finally.... will certainly result in need for a new motherboard, because it'll be made irrepairable. In my early days I had a lot of practice with old & recycled boards - I've seen and experienced it all. Some guys even recommend a blowtorch for heating up those chips - I guess, that's the next level of this Russian Roulette.

@staho86 7 жыл бұрын

I've done it for 5 minutes without temp sensor last night and all runs great

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

try getting a heat gun. I will put a link in the description. Try to blast it for a longer period of time. Maybe about 90 seconds. If it happens again then try 2 minutes. Also, build a heat shield to protect the other parts from getting hot.

@maierfelix 10 жыл бұрын

Worked perfectly for me! Thank you!

@rvreddy6486 11 жыл бұрын

HI JOHNY I fix my 7 beep sound problem Thanks very much ..u r looking like a helping God.......

@rpg481 12 жыл бұрын

very nice tutorial! unfortunately that's what happened to my HP laptop

@sisgen1 11 жыл бұрын

You are a genius! My laptop is working again! Thanks

@bobbyk1083 10 жыл бұрын

Great, clear video - thanks

@epsilonvideos6677 9 жыл бұрын

thanks man.. i have tried your solution and and works fine.. thanks . p.s. my laptop overheated due to a fan failure...

@anchitkumar9271 7 жыл бұрын

what is name liquid GPu care please

@48georgieboy 11 жыл бұрын

easy to understand tut, thanks

@danplustache5234 10 жыл бұрын

Good video seemed to work. On another PC, goes straight to F1 and F2 on display but nothing happens when I press either Cant go to cmos. Any ideas?.

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Maybe you attached them back together incorrectly?

@MUHelps 9 жыл бұрын

+jhonny phung, what will happen if i didnt put any thermo paste?

@JeetenGandhi 8 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Phung First of all thanks for the clear demo. My Dell Inspiron is also facing the same problem. I've sent that to Dell service center for diagnose and they couldn't find any problem. I've also run the diagnostic tests but they were all clear. The service center guy has told me that it seems to be an issue with my graphics card and i may need to replace my motherboard and it's having only 3 months warranty. Somehow, they have temporarily fixed the issue but now it has started reoccurring and i don't want to change the motherboard as i don't see any other problem with it. I want to try this myself and I question i have here is: which is the best thermal compound to use? I see many options but i am confused with which one to use! Please help me! Thanks in advance.

@johnnythegeek 8 жыл бұрын

try the Arctic silver 5 or mx4. you only have to apply very little.

@JeetenGandhi 8 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks a lot for help.

@ArturoBallardo 9 жыл бұрын

I got a problem with boot up, just got black screen and 7 beeps repeating in loop, that's all nothing else, no boot at all. Memory & battery were removed, connected an external monitor, still same prob. Do you thing is same problem that it happens in this video?

@kennethhowell5291 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the help!

@johnteklay6468 8 жыл бұрын

does it have a beeping sound what if i use silver 2 thermal paste? thanks

@nikunjpatel3149 4 жыл бұрын

i am doing this process but still same problem after some time sp now what can i do for next

@babyzyon1 11 жыл бұрын

great vid totally works thanks

@Makattack707 12 жыл бұрын

Very nice thanks for sharing

@debikamitra5683 11 жыл бұрын

Hi, my computer has the same 7 beeps problem. Did you do exactly what you saw in this video or did you do anything additional to fix the problem? Thanks.

@KadMac25 12 жыл бұрын

This laptop model seems to have a lot of problems. I have one right now and I have nothing showing on the screen and it makes 7 beeps over and over again. I think the motherboard has failed. :(

@damianochendalski7183 8 жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention to unscrew a screw next to the ram (the seccond one) and your fix works with 7 beeps of death

@lou03915025 12 жыл бұрын

and the fix done in the same manner, correct?

@mikey4texas 11 жыл бұрын

Was the temperature supposed to be at 750 F for 10 to 20 sec? or 1000 F for 10 to 20 sec?

@RebelViking912 11 жыл бұрын

how long on average does this "repair" work until it has to be done again?

@ashrafhussein5881 11 жыл бұрын

thank you its great and it solve the problem

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

I did have to do it again once after this and I shot it longer. Has not needed it again and it's been about 6 months. I don't own this laptop. It belongs to a friend.

@Rossuk2012 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks, worked perfectly....

@anchitkumar9271 7 жыл бұрын

Ross Banks hi

@w4st3r 11 жыл бұрын

I salute you, my friend.

@pimpablo 11 жыл бұрын

I did this and it did fix my screen issue but now my wireless adapter is not being recognized. You have any info for me?

@Fleece3 11 жыл бұрын

Why take the motherboard out? Cant you do it in the computer?

@soopsoopdawoooop5586 10 жыл бұрын

Is the thermal paste needed? Where can I find some of this at?

@debikamitra5683 11 жыл бұрын

Hi, can you tell me what kind of thermal paste you used? I'm ordering some from amazon for this purpose and there's several different types.

@VindictiveNoah 11 жыл бұрын

Hey Jon! I was just wondering, so my laptop started to get the dreaded 7 beep. So I reflowed it two different occasions both working, however it's doing it again. Is there any potential risks from reflowing it more( I've been using a high powered hair dryer xD)

@johnnythegeek 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@tamireich5131 9 жыл бұрын

If I totally replace th motherboard, does the CPU and GPU come attached to the motherboard? I have just begun looking into this, and do not want to spend the money purchasing a new laptop.

@johnnythegeek 9 жыл бұрын

You would have to take off the CPU and install it into your new motherboard. The gpu is permanently attached.

@luckyspin956 11 жыл бұрын

I was about to ask if this same method could work for the 7 beeps on the computer. Apparently it does, I know I just witnessed it on the video but was any of this process hard for a newbie like myself.. N for the 7 beeps did you reapply thermal on the CPU or no?

@Efmetroid 11 жыл бұрын

hey amm in my case the laptop i have dont even make a startup sound or show any sings of display is al black only the 7 beeps rapidly when it start the fan go off. i opened and the video chip was dry with nothing left of thermal paste. what do you think adding thermal paste wil solve the problem or its something worst having to do with the cpu ???

@lh1288 11 жыл бұрын

So i have the 7 beep prob and I tried this and It worked! However i foolishly turned off my comp when i attempted to turn it back on the dreaded beeps returned. While I was re-installing everything i didnt use any thermal compound (beacuse i dont know what it is or where to get it) could that have made a diffrence? I plan on trying this again.

@varuninnz 10 жыл бұрын

hey mate, i followed this tutorial, for N5010 my laptop display seems to work fine. however now my computer turns off after 15 seconds. - Tested turning on without my keyboard plugged in - Tested turning on including my hdd. - Removed everything including ram. it gives me 2 beeps and stays on forever without any display. - Tested all the above cases without my battery plugged in. Really lost now, if you've got any solution for this problem. Please also note: I completely cleaned my fan out so there shouldn't be any overheating issue.

@varuninnz 10 жыл бұрын

Please note: I used a hair dryer.

@DigitalCyborgman 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bro for this Vid... you're a life saver ! You have save me to spend "$". For that, I will buy myself some beers and thinking of your video.

@chsor415 11 жыл бұрын

i have the 7 beeps problem too. but it says its a processor problem? so did you still do re-flow on the GPU?

@NickArnette 10 жыл бұрын

Like I said three weeks ago, it worked, but the repair only lasted for two weeks. Back to the 7 beeps. Should I try to have it repaired, or should I just toss it at this point?

@johnnythegeek 10 жыл бұрын

If you are considering throwing it away. Try to reflow it again with a heat gun and for a longer period of time. Maybe about 1-2 minutes. Be sure to protect the other parts from heat.

@NickArnette 10 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks Johnny. I did the reflow, using the heat gun for a little over a minute. I did the proceedure three times to make sure the solder flowed. It's working well now. Hopefully, it'll hold up this time. I also installed a copper shim and a new thermal pad over the processor. Seems to be running fairly cool..between 45-70 celsius core temperature. Using the Core Temp App.

@TheBestChannel 10 жыл бұрын

i get the same problem, thanks to the technicien that repair it, it return to work you, i pay 50 $ :)

@TheBestChannel 9 жыл бұрын

***** yes ;)