it’s just is really disappointing to me that these girls literally recorded/filmed their killer for evidence yet they still haven’t gotten justice.

This case is so sickening, baffling, and terrifying to me. How is it that the victim bravely took a photo of him and recorded his voice, and yet we don’t have him yet. She was so brave to do that. She had to have known she and her friend were not likely to live and she made her last actions count.

Everyone who harassed the old man who was innocent should be ashamed of themselves now.

Can you believe they have a suspect who lived in Delphi with his wife and daughter! Worked at CVS! Would love to hear your update on this!

It's time for the cops to spit out a few more details they've been holding back... What they're doing now just isn't working.

they caught the guy now!! can't wait to see an update video from Dr. Grande 🙏

How many people are here rewatching this video after a suspect has been put in custody? Finally a break in this case! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

You honestly might break KZfaq with the amount of traffic you're about to get to your channel with this posting. Thank you for all you do!

Thank you for posting this. I’m from Indiana, about 30 minutes from Delphi. we want justice for our girls

“TODAY’S THE DAY!” (Sister’s tweet) 😭💔 Please do an update video! I can’t believe they made an arrest 🙏 please let there be Justice for these beautiful girls 💔💔💔

Anyone else gets chills when you heard “down the hill”

The gaps in the bridge is why they think it was a local or has been there often. He seems to be comfortable walking on it.

My friend and I used to go walking like this all the time, we were maybe 14 or 15. Probably why this story resonates with a lot of people, we've all walked alone or with a friend at some point. You just never know. Frightening to think about.

I can't wait for you to make an update of this video! What difference a year makes. I hope justice gets served for the girls and their families.

Something really stinks about this. Pictures and footage of the man, audio too and he is still at large. How the girls died etc hasn't even been released to the family. So many flags.

At this point, what do the cops have to lose in releasing more info that could help the public identify the killer? So aggravating.

This is the one case that I can’t stop thinking about. Thank you Dr. Grande!

If this person was a family member or a friend of mine I would recognise him from this video, someone must be protecting this person.

I refuse to believe that this case won't be solved. I really want justice for those two girls and there is a sadistic killer out there still.

Dr G “amorphous blob related violence” has now made my list of favorite quotes by you. Thanks for your work. This case haunts me and I continue to pray for justice. Much ❤️to you from CA.

This is the one case I want to see get solved ....its sad that it has basically gone cold with picture, video, and his voice ....at somepoint law enforcement is gonna have to release more details

Easy to play armchair detective, I know, but I'm wondering if he produced a weapon as he approached, probably a gun, that he then concealed in a pocket while he continued to approach. This would have been the trigger for the girl to start recording, and "Guys.... down the hill" definitely sounds like a command or instruction. But without some additional threat of a weapon, I think it likely that the girls would have just run away. There was DNA recovered from the scene which has, as yet, not found a match. Perhaps the police may want to consider running the DNA on familial/ancestry DNA websites, (forensic genetic genealogy) which is what they did with the Golden State killer and found a match that led to the arrest and conviction of Joseph James DeAngelo.

It's not all that difficult to narrow down the killer's identity once you accept a few basic facts in the case. At the 2019 Press Conference LE revealed Young Sketch and declared that he was responsible for the murders. It was then revealed through media outlets that LE had possession of Young Sketch 4 days after the murders, on February 17 2017 (murders were February 13). Why didn't they release Young Sketch when they had it and ask the public to identify him? Because they already identified him. They thought he was a witness at the time. At CrimeCon 2018, Sgt Jerry Holeman reveals that LE had several sketches of witnesses, family members, and search party members. The only way LE would have known that is if they identified the people depicted in the sketches they had. In the April 29, 2020 interview with the Carroll County Comet, Sheriff Leazenby stated that the killer had likely been "interviewed but not immediately identified as an offender." So, they had several sketches at the beginning of the investigation and those sketches were determined to be of witnesses, family members and search party members. And the killer had likely been interviewed but not identified as the killer. The killer therefore, was likely considered a witness at the beginning of the investigation. The sketch of him was one of several sketches of witnesses they had all along. His alibi therefore will be one that puts him at the crime scene in order to explain why a witness saw him there (why a sketch of him exists) but will supply an innocent reason for being there that would have survived superficial scrutiny. They know who he is. He was hiding in plain sight as a witness. He changed his appearance dramatically following the release of Young Sketch. He is local, and his family is well-known in the community, just as Leazenby said it would be in that interview.

We have video. We have audio. We have the "odd crime scene." Why isn't this person identified? Thank you Dr.Grande for sharing your perspectives. 👍

Pure evil. Heartbreaking story.

Cops been looking for this man for 5 years, flyers, sketch artists, more artists, maybe it would have been a good idea to release the video of the suspect. Not the 2 second release, there is 43 seconds on that tape. The police never released it. For what reason I cannot understand, it's incompetence. Police withhold evidence so when a suspect is found only the suspect knows the truth. Nothing on this tape fits that description. I can't believe they released only 2 second and then had the public guess the identity for years, this might have been solved if the public saw a longer version than just 2 seconds. She went there to meet what she thought was a new love, and this killer showed instead. 43 seconds of a man living in a small town, and we got 2 seconds. The police failed.

I think that he knew one of them, and had knowledge they would be there.

I can not imagine the anguish the families felt when the girls went missing. It's sad commentary on our society when two girls can't go out walking in the middle of the day😪

Thank you so much. I actually was thinking about this case the other day. I wish they could solve it. So happy that one of the girls made the recording. How scary it must have been for them!

Both girls loved ‘true crime’ so it’s likely they’d said to each other at some point beforehand ‘wow if I ever get chills from someone,let’s film them’ then they did. They’ve now linked someone via the girls social media that could’ve been the killer but we will only ever find that out weigh after the arrest,if any! I think these girls were amazing and they loved each other,im from the UK and I was literally one of these girls when I was their age,I just wish they would’ve one day got to have been my age,41,love and wishes to both families.xxxx

4 years now ... I have so many observations and questions, I’m in the UK 🇬🇧 and this is the crime that I think about nearly everyday, this case and the Madeline Mc Cann are the two that I am most passionate about .. again great a listen thank you 😊

It's crazy to me that in such a small town they can't find the killer despite having audio and video evidence! Someone knows, for sure.

The picture of the man on the bridge seems like an older man.

“And they will probably never know.” Well that was depressing.

Came back here because there was a man arrested for kidnapping a 10 year old girl that investigators are looking into & all the characteristics you described, he has. I’ve learned to not get my hopes up when a new person of interest comes up, people will be so certain only for law enforcement to announce they are no longer a POI, but there are some undeniably odd things with this recent guy. 1. The girl he kidnapped was of a similar age as Libby & Abby. 2. He lured her to his house in broad daylight. 2. He lives 20 miles from Delphi. 3. He is an outdoorsman. 4. He alternated between having a job & doing well & being jobless & homeless. This is important because when he was homeless he would often live out of a tent in the woods or under a bridge. 5. On his social media he has several pictures of bridges, trains & old railroad tracks. I know those are not really concrete indicators of guilt but they are still odd nonetheless.

"Guys...down the hill" tells me the suspect knew where to direct the girls to maximize his chances of a successful crime. He likely knew the area, and there must've been some shred of DNA evidence left at the crime scene. It baffles me he still hasn't been apprehended despite all the resources, tips, leads and coverage this case has received. Thank for covering this one Dr. Grande.

This case is so scary and frustrating. The girls were so smart to use their phone. Ive seen the crime scene on another channel, it's down a hill from the bridge. It;s not very far from the bridge

This horrible case but needs to be analysed so that people. Can be educated on dangers that world unfortunately has. Thank you for covering this case

Father and son (Kline) cat-fishing duo that target underaged girls. Son lures them via social media - Instagram - tells them where to meet - promises them something upon their arrival? Then, son hides "down there", underneath the bridge, while father walks towards them, tells them to "go down there." There, they are killed. Strange how neither killer thinks of taking the girl's cellphone with them. This evidence was left behind for police to find.

Dr. Grande can you please do an update on this case? They have arrested Someone in connection with the girls murder. I would like to know your analysis on the suspect. Thank you so much I just love your channel 🤗

As an Indiana native that lives a few counties away from Delphi, I appreciate you covering this.

I think this crime was definitely planned. He knew where he wanted to take his victims, and with police saying the scene was weird and there was a lot of evidence he may have even set it up beforehand. Then he just had to wait for suitable victim/s. 💕 These precious girls

Thank God for that 5% ! Well as far as the profile, he did have a substance abuse problem and may be a narcissistic. It does seem that these killers are usually your ordinary guy that nobody suspects! That’s the scariest thing about these people 😳

The monster on that bridge is obviously a middle-aged man at the very least! It's almost like the authorities are trying to confuse the public with the new sketch of an obviously younger suspect!

I disagree that it wasn’t premeditated. I believe it was. He went to that trail that day to kill someone, he just didn’t know who it was gonna be yet, or if the opportunity would arise.

I’m a home visiting nurse practitioner based out of Indianapolis and I drive through Delphi sometimes on the way to see some of my patients. It is really weird to know that something so scary happened in such a quiet town. Their poor families.

He must have been somewhere that day, gas station, groceries, food pantry, something considering that all of us are recorded an average of 19 times a day as we move around.

Looking at the man’s gait and overall appearance I think he’s more likely to be over 40 years of age. That’s just my initial impression.

i remember this happening, i live in indiana and i was in middle school at the time. my mom wouldn’t let me go anywhere by myself for weeks, and i thought it was stupid at the time. the more details i learned about the case the more i truly just trust my mom

I think this case particularly haunts people because we can literally see and hear their murderer. It makes it particularly frustrating. If I was those girls I’d probably think “Okay if something bad happens, they will surely see this and get him” but that’s yet to be the case. I had a few experiences with creepy/off people when I was younger. At the time I just brushed it off as “that guy was weird” but now I’m older I think about the what-ifs. It’s so scary and I hope that those girls bravery wasn’t for nothing.

Well… today is the day, Dr. Grande, justice for Abbey & Libby! Hallelujah. ✨

Dear Dr. Grande, I admired your commentary. What concerns me is that I don't think the police are recognizing that the audio voice of the suspect is of an older person, not a younger person as in the newer sketch.

Just finished the “Down The Hill” podcast and this video appeared! Perfect timing. Thank you for your insight, Dr. Grande.

It’s up to ALL of us to put an end to amorphous blob-related violence.

Update May 2021: James Chadwell II has been arrested for kidnapping a nine-year-old and is being looked at in connection to what happened to Abby and Libby. Interestingly, he kind of looks like the sketches.

I believe the Carroll County Sheriff' should check out a guy who worked at a meat packer, wrote a post on the anniversary of the murders.He knew and spoke with Libby German and lives in Delphi, is part of the Snoeburger Farm family. He also looks like a sketch I did after studying the photo of the guy on the bridge taken by Libby's phone.

It’s been 3 years and I still think about this case every other month and do some research to see if there are any new leads or if justice has been served. I’m so sorry for the girls and the family I am hoping and praying this case never gets cold and justice gets served.

Again, Dr. Grande, you hit the nail on the head. Looks like police wants to discourage any tips coming in. Thank you for covering this sad case. Hopefully this cold case will one day be solved. 💜

I was always baffled about the “odds” of this crime taking place and also for the longest time thought it had to be random, but the more I listen and watch stuff about this case I’ve started thinking maybe it’s possible the killer was watching, or following them, not necessarily in real life, but online? I just feel like everything is to specific to be a random event!?

It's an absolute travesty that they haven't got this guy. Heart goes out to the parents.

Thank you for covering this case, Dr. Grande. My heart aches for these girls. 💔

I know the topic is grim, but I appreciate your uploads. Life’s been difficult lately, and your videos help me understand the world a bit more. Makes me feel less disoriented in disorienting times. Ty.

This was revenge murder, aimed specifically at Libby German. Abby was just unfortunate to be with her. This is why Libby was stripped naked and staged, while Abby was laid down fully clothed, coffin style. The small and close knit band of meth heads and cookers that did this did so to exact revenge on Libby's father, Derrick German, who was going to be going to prison for drug distribution, but was let off the hook when he agreed to become a police informant. One of the men involved, Garret Kirts, 2 years later, murdered his ex-girlfriend by strangulation, which was planned, and did this with 2 or 3 of the others. He also confessed to the strangulation murder of a man 2 weeks previously, which he was never charged for, due to corruption within the LE system. He and the girl who was involved in the other girl's murder are each doing 55 and 45 years. Garret was best friends with BG, and BG is the only one of the bunch that is not incarcerated on any charges. These all knew that land and Ron Logan's property like the back of their hand, and had grown up going there and partying out there regularly. The two that i mentioned were murdered by strangulation were most likely killed because there was fear that they were going to come forth to LE regarding what they knew about Libby's and Abby's murders.

Doctor Todd, would you revisit this case now that James Brian Chadwell has been arrested? Thanks Doc

I did interact with a killer once, or should I say I went to middle and high school with a guy. Was always nice to me, funny yet shy in big groups. Years later he killed a young man who was the object of his then partner's eye...a lust triangle gone wrong. Took his body out to a county forest area and left him. He wasn't found for ages, can't recall how long, but at minimum weeks. The further twist is that the young man's mother who was killed turned out to be my first AA sponsor. Gives me shivers. (She helped me tremendously, been sober since, 37 years!

One from my home state!! Very sad and baffling case. Someone somewhere has to recognize that man. My heart breaks for their families. Great video dr!

Thankyou so much Dr Grande for looking at this case . Such a tragic and haunting story . Really hope these poor girls and their families get justice 💕💕

At first I was upset when he said that the case will probably never be solved, but now that I’m thinking more clearly and objectively, I believe the doctor is correct in his analysis…unfortunately, this case might never be solved, but people will never give up trying to solve this case…

Y’all don’t even know how long I’ve waited for Dr. Grande to cover this. Someone knows who this man is. Let’s get justice for these girls, stop protecting him, he will do it again.

I've been through a family member going missing. The despair is unspeakable and its unending.... even after they found her body. Its not just losing them... thats hard. The questions are worse because you know the answers aren't likely to come. Its been fifteen years for my family and its still an unknown. It breaks you in a way nobody else can understand unless you've been through it.

We all try so hard to help catch this Killer. Everyone who has commented or input should be applauded. Going on what evidence we have, it's a huge war on crime really, keeps it active which is important. Let's keep our passion alive were getting there!!! Big Thank you to all who try to help find the missing piece of the puzzle. God Bless you All.

I would never ever allow my child to be on that bridge.

Weird and sad this was never solved, especially since it’s in modern times

I'm having a 'Grande' old time binging Dr. Grande videos... sorry not sorry lol

I think the killer was stalking. This wasnt spontaneous. It was the day before Valentine's Day. I think he was in the area to find someone to commit a crime against. He was lurking around there waiting for people to show up who he felt he could victimize. He could have been there on other days doing the same only not to have anyone appear who he thought he could victimize.

With all the dangers now days from the internet all kids need taught in school as a special class about the evilness that’s lurking out there on the internet. I strongly feel the older girl was the one who was communicating with this guy and he played he was the young good looking model. They planned to meet this good looking guy at the bridge. Then seen this old scruffy looking guy come towards them and realized they were scammed and in deep trouble. Girls for one are so vulnerable and trusting. Parents everywhere need to be on top of what your kids are doing!! P.S. There would never be a day in hell I’d let any of my kids walk on that dangerous bridge! It needs to be torn down

The killer probably watched this maybe even left a comment. These people watch everything about their crime to relive the excitement and thrill.

One of the most frightening types of killers, and every parents worst fear! Thank you for your thoughts!

"One never knows where danger lurks..." Excellent comment Dr. Grande.

Time to revisit after a suspect has been recently been arrested and charged.

This one is particularly chilling considering that, if the killer is truly a resident of that small town, they seem to be able to carry on without any guilt to make them confess.

Can't wait to see "Dr. Grande (Todd Grande) mental health & personality" when he hits 600k

Amorphous blob against violence, you just kill me Dr.Grande

That man doesn’t walk or dress like a younger person. My guess would be 40 or more years of age

I can not get enough perspective on this case! I am excited to hear your take on it. Such a heartbreaking story. Thank you so much for bringing more attention to it. 💕

Liberty and Abigael left a trail of their murderer and we still can’t find him. It took too long for Law Enforcement to release his video, somebody would have identified him.

7:23 because it's been alleged that they were "catfished" there, hence the second photo of the perp is actually the image of the "boy" they thought they were communicating with on Snapchat

Happy to say Dr. Grande got this one wrong. The police just made an arrest of a Delphi resident, Richard Allen. He is being held without bond.

Love your videos Dr Grande, I listen to them at work with my headphones while stocking shelves. Makes time go by much faster. Keep up the great work

I feel like Dr. Grande would be an amazing educator. Really seems like the kind of guy who could make a massive difference to undergrads or high schoolers

The only details I could find to this day about cause of death or the crime scene was that they were covered in blood, that the bodies were staged, and pieces of clothing were missing. I would of liked to hear your analysis of the mindset of the person based on that. Also, since you posted this there has been an arrest and I noticed that the man they arrested worked at CVS, was married, had a family, no criminal record, and was totally unassuming. He was hiding in plain sight. But we still know nothing because everything is sealed.

There was more recorded.... The one girl saying "He's still behind me isn't he?" And her friend says "Yep". Then one of them says "He has a gun!". He likely used the gun to herd them down the hill to the other side of the creek . The very odd part is how the search parties didn't find them sooner. The timeline is so bizarre.

Omg cannot wait to watch this one tonight, very interested to hear your perspective. Although there really isn't that much info made public on this case.

Against the odds, let's have hope that this case will be solved soon 🙏

Nice. You answered every question I had about how she recorded him and why he didn't get rid of the phone. Concise and to the point, as usual, you delivered another interesting recap of the Delphi murders.

It seems to me the cops are covering for someone and know a lot more than they are letting on .

German was smart to take a video/pic and record the voice. Very sad case. Prayers to the girls and their families. 🙏🏼

You just described the suspect they’ve recently arrested. Well done analysis, Dr.!! I hope we see justice in our lifetime

Looking forward to perhaps a new video commentary on recent events. This video very revealing for that moment in time.

Sounds like the police should give a little more info...if they have any to offer...