it’s just is really disappointing to me that these girls literally recorded/filmed their killer for evidence yet they still haven’t gotten justice.
@JustDr.S3 жыл бұрын
It really does seem odd to me. Murders are solved with much less evidence than this case. I have to commend those poor girls, though. Under serious threat of danger, to have the presence of mind to take pictures, videos, audio, all without the perp knowing it. Brave and intelligent girls, they were. Perhaps the police 'know' who did it, but don't have the evidence for a conviction. I hope so, because eventually they may get that evidence. If not, might never be solved.
@MindyBeee3 жыл бұрын
Infuriating. Somebody knows.
@jessicabookout7713 жыл бұрын
Also this park is very popular and there should have been many people there idk how no one saw anyone
@jmc75043 жыл бұрын
@@jessicabookout771 dont know the area at all, but seems like they couldve ran, maybe they knew the killer
@Eschrodingerwave3 жыл бұрын
@@jmc7504 LE made it clear the girls nor the family knew the killer. IMO, when they told us the girls stuck together I believe the killer probably just grabbed one of the girls threatening with a weapon so the other wouldn’t run because she was afraid he was going to hurt the other. I lost the video but there is a video out there with one of the attorneys stating shortly after the crime that even if this had happened before we had all this great technology it would still be an easily solved case. Talked like he was worried yet here we are.
@pembrokelove3 жыл бұрын
This case is so sickening, baffling, and terrifying to me. How is it that the victim bravely took a photo of him and recorded his voice, and yet we don’t have him yet. She was so brave to do that. She had to have known she and her friend were not likely to live and she made her last actions count.
@owenbenjewmansucksvoxoff62633 жыл бұрын
Ironically it to DATE, has NOT helped.
@Mikkaag3 жыл бұрын
The guy had a gun. And Abbey maybe could have got away but stayed for her friend..
@boogiestreet5943 жыл бұрын
Just a question, did he rape any of the girls, was it a sexual thing or just murder? because if it was just murder i think it's scarier
@pembrokelove3 жыл бұрын
@@boogiestreet594 as far as ive heard, it was a murder alone. No idea why he did it at all.
@squirleyspitmonkey39263 жыл бұрын
Because the cops have only released four words and one second of video. That's not enough to identify anybody. That's not enough to identify speaking patterns. Right now he sounds like every man I know, and this guy in the video. If the cops truly want to solve this, they need to release a hell of a lot more than what they have.
@xminusone1 Жыл бұрын
Everyone who harassed the old man who was innocent should be ashamed of themselves now.
@cherylschwarz1595 Жыл бұрын
Can you believe they have a suspect who lived in Delphi with his wife and daughter! Worked at CVS! Would love to hear your update on this!
@vieuphoria1008 Жыл бұрын
Right!?! I’m positive they will finally get justice
@alcoholya3 жыл бұрын
It's time for the cops to spit out a few more details they've been holding back... What they're doing now just isn't working.
@aaronberg1863 жыл бұрын
Machete Moonlight yeah it’s going on four years now. I think they should give the public some more clues.
@georgiafloyd10793 жыл бұрын
Yes why are they hiding things, seems like someone is being protected for a reason.
@bobjones33693 жыл бұрын
@ Nobody disagrees with you. But it’s way to far in your extreme. They haven’t even released the cause of death, anything about crime scene, items found, etc. imagine someone is able to learn for example, a wrench from their tool box was *used* (whatever you wanna call it) in the process of that day’s events, and/or this piece was found at the general crime scene. Someone hears that, goes “ive always suspected my husband/brother/coworker/teacher of this and now it makes sense because we were also missing a wrench from the toolbox as well.”
@Jesse-fd5bv3 жыл бұрын
@@georgiafloyd1079 It's George Floyd
@AliceA3333 жыл бұрын
@@georgiafloyd1079 if anyone were being protected, the video wouldn't have ever come to light. They're just holding things back because false confessions make things a mess and make it harder to find the killer.
@danielghosn6529 Жыл бұрын
they caught the guy now!! can't wait to see an update video from Dr. Grande 🙏
@KScott-er4ri3 жыл бұрын
How many people are here rewatching this video after a suspect has been put in custody? Finally a break in this case! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@Reportinglivefrommysofa3 жыл бұрын
You honestly might break KZfaq with the amount of traffic you're about to get to your channel with this posting. Thank you for all you do!
@ridgebackmomma62613 жыл бұрын
I agree!!!!
@kimberlyclark58013 жыл бұрын
Agreed I was just looking up the case to see if any progress has been made, when this notification popped up!
@odettegordonyo3 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul! Totally right! May this fiend be stopped and truth bring justice for the girls)-&
@christa77733 жыл бұрын
Lol he is. Love your channel btw RLFMS!
@Reportinglivefrommysofa3 жыл бұрын
@@christa7773 thank you!
@haydenjones58613 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I’m from Indiana, about 30 minutes from Delphi. we want justice for our girls
@williamsussman7343 Жыл бұрын
Same I lived in Indy in 2017 and would run on the monon trail every night after work
@Throatzillaaa Жыл бұрын
I just saw they arrested someone.
@SB-ou2ji Жыл бұрын
“TODAY’S THE DAY!” (Sister’s tweet) 😭💔 Please do an update video! I can’t believe they made an arrest 🙏 please let there be Justice for these beautiful girls 💔💔💔
@jeffhelsing10963 жыл бұрын
Anyone else gets chills when you heard “down the hill”
@lipshamorrissey46363 жыл бұрын
Listen closely and you may hear what I and many others hear. Between guys and down there's another voice, kinda sounds like Charlie Brown Wah-wah-WAH. Listen again. I've gone back and forth on what they're saying, it's either We said NO!, or Let us GO!
@poisonivy19853 жыл бұрын
@@lipshamorrissey4636 I hear it too. Bone chilling
@debraedwards40893 жыл бұрын
I hear it too. Sounds farther away and I think that's why they dismiss it.
@tamarevans90253 жыл бұрын
@@lipshamorrissey4636 Yikes! 😳
@lipshamorrissey46363 жыл бұрын
@@tamarevans9025 Yeah, I know. I almost hate to point it out bc it's so chilling. And I can't not hear it, every single time. I've pretty much settled on it being We said NO!, even though according to at least one analysis from a trusted source, it can't be there, it doesn't register in a scan. But there it is nonetheless. I'm trying to recreate the recording to see if lots of outdoor background noise might sound like a human talking when recorded on a phone. Not so far. I'd refer you to the source, but they've taken their channel down.
@joannecraft98423 жыл бұрын
The gaps in the bridge is why they think it was a local or has been there often. He seems to be comfortable walking on it.
@ticrific3 жыл бұрын
Plus he knew where to go. Outsiders weren’t familiar with the location, it’s a thing only the town or surrounding towns are aware of
@chunkyMunky3293 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure my brother has antisocial personality (psychopathy), and something he told me is that he loves to try everything in life, regardless of risk. So, it makes me think that the murderer can still be from out of town because a psychopath can very quickly take enough risks to explore a new area.
@anyoneanyone35153 жыл бұрын
Yep, definitely someone who knows the area. They need to be looking at a teacher, pastor, and someone of stature in the community.
@ecasey913 жыл бұрын
@@chunkyMunky329 well that’s terrifying
@wmaxeyindiana3 жыл бұрын
As if he was attracting their attention.
@Basey3 жыл бұрын
My friend and I used to go walking like this all the time, we were maybe 14 or 15. Probably why this story resonates with a lot of people, we've all walked alone or with a friend at some point. You just never know. Frightening to think about.
@carolv84503 жыл бұрын
Always have a plan.
@TotemoGaijin3 жыл бұрын
Well, yeah, its literally like Stand By Me, except they're no longer with us.
@lesmorris102 жыл бұрын
Yup all the time as a teen.
@gaylemaher83792 жыл бұрын
Like the Dr. says, “We may have come in contact with a killer but we don’t know it”
@jamesb.91552 жыл бұрын
Things seem to be a lot less safe now for everybody.
@lucyalexander3607 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for you to make an update of this video! What difference a year makes. I hope justice gets served for the girls and their families.
@theresapierce39343 жыл бұрын
Something really stinks about this. Pictures and footage of the man, audio too and he is still at large. How the girls died etc hasn't even been released to the family. So many flags.
@stephaniem37803 жыл бұрын
I don't know how true it is, but supposedly a text from Libby's uncle got leaked where he said how they both were murdered.
@SC-ew2fc3 жыл бұрын
As Stephanie says, a text from someone in the search party was leaked. Unfortunately, it stated they were both stabbed multiple times and one of them had their throat cut.
@bhobolate90543 жыл бұрын
If this is true which I know they didnt really release anything publicly which tells me that they're either protecting someone or that they practically know who it is but cant pin it on him yet and are waiting for the perfect moment
@youdontneedtoknow56882 жыл бұрын
@@SC-ew2fc Was there any signs of sexual abuse?
@visassess86072 жыл бұрын
@@youdontneedtoknow5688 As far as I can recall, there were no signs of sexual abuse
@calithunder3 жыл бұрын
At this point, what do the cops have to lose in releasing more info that could help the public identify the killer? So aggravating.
@Wistful773 жыл бұрын
Agree, there is so much more to this case that the public might be able to help with. But it seems the cops know who it is, and are protecting some people, for their own protection. It stinks like bullcrap.
@aaronberg1863 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the cops have a clue just like the rest of us. As much as they tried to clean the photo up it just isn’t clear enough.
@FrancesShear3 жыл бұрын
- Not being able to later catch the king pin who was barking out all of the orders to more than one murder involved in the killings with similar evidence being left behind while practicing often their own imitation of Pelosi's maybe only frustrated with extremist orthodox believers voice that she can manage or while practicing their neo-Nazi Hitler style voice while barking out orders to a team of killers part of more than one cult instead? [I better not ever move to the U.S. not because I hate Americans only because I am not afraid to call out what looks to me a possible spade on any 'bridge over troubled water' too while of course not jumping too fast to any firm conclusions myself like it for sure being only one murderer who is only antisocial, [instead of psychopathic] narcissistic, impulsive, irresponsible, with a poor work history, maltreated as a child themselves. Only one thing for sure at this point we can assume is that whoever was doing the dirty work of murder unless it was murder for hire piece work [instead of for peace] was probable already trained in karate or whatever other martial art and already trained well enough in how to use a firearm for back up well enough to kill 2 people both at the same time.
@fembot5213 жыл бұрын
They have to keep some details in order to weed out tips and fake confessions. Very standard.
@johnnytakisawa3 жыл бұрын
@@fembot521 you dont keep all the info. You keep a few details that only the killer would know. They have botched this and it's starting to look like it was on purpose.
@loofahsswanson5593 жыл бұрын
This is the one case that I can’t stop thinking about. Thank you Dr. Grande!
@kevinyoung88923 жыл бұрын
If this person was a family member or a friend of mine I would recognise him from this video, someone must be protecting this person.
@truthseeker4084 Жыл бұрын
He is a loner.
@lulub1433 Жыл бұрын
He resembles a lot of people. However, the resemblance of the bridge image held against the picture of the suspect just arrested is undeniable. I tend to believe you are right, and his family either live under a rock or had to know.
@billw9284 Жыл бұрын
The wife knew it was him no doubt. The crime was committed within miles from their home. The walk the voice the clothing. She knew it was him. This was in the news 24/7 in Delphi and people in the town obviously spoke about it constantly. So the wife was hearing about the whole time. The wife knew she just chose to hope it would all go away one day.
@ivyyoung5212 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe that this case won't be solved. I really want justice for those two girls and there is a sadistic killer out there still.
@kindyecobaby Жыл бұрын
Arrested local weirdo creep Richard Allen last Friday. He has a humourless nothing looking face with dead eyes. He lived in the town and has no criminal record
@vieuphoria1008 Жыл бұрын
And here we are today hopefully there will be an end
@rochelleshon3063 жыл бұрын
Dr G “amorphous blob related violence” has now made my list of favorite quotes by you. Thanks for your work. This case haunts me and I continue to pray for justice. Much ❤️to you from CA.
@charlieapples93733 жыл бұрын
That was a real gem amongst a treasure trove
@QCDoggies3 жыл бұрын
Amorphous Blob comments cracked me up too
@bmcminn88383 жыл бұрын
This is the one case I want to see get solved ....its sad that it has basically gone cold with picture, video, and his voice ....at somepoint law enforcement is gonna have to release more details
@soysaucehairdye78693 жыл бұрын
I think it will get solved eventually. Personally, I believe in the geocaching theory where the killer is a professor that grew up in Delphi and would do annual digs in Delphi. His last dig in Delphi was during the summer of 2017 just a few months after the murders.
@charliesierra24903 жыл бұрын
I think they know who did it. Possjbly protecting one of their own, but likely don't have the evidence to convict. This man knew these girls and they knew him.
@queenofswords64633 жыл бұрын
@@charliesierra2490 I agree with you.
@janetbaumgardner74923 жыл бұрын
How did the girls die...stab, strangled, or does nobody know except for police
@bmcminn88383 жыл бұрын
@@janetbaumgardner7492 they haven't released any Information about it even how they died but expect it to be solved somehow
@mhthmusicvideos3 жыл бұрын
Easy to play armchair detective, I know, but I'm wondering if he produced a weapon as he approached, probably a gun, that he then concealed in a pocket while he continued to approach. This would have been the trigger for the girl to start recording, and "Guys.... down the hill" definitely sounds like a command or instruction. But without some additional threat of a weapon, I think it likely that the girls would have just run away. There was DNA recovered from the scene which has, as yet, not found a match. Perhaps the police may want to consider running the DNA on familial/ancestry DNA websites, (forensic genetic genealogy) which is what they did with the Golden State killer and found a match that led to the arrest and conviction of Joseph James DeAngelo.
@katieschwartz96892 жыл бұрын
DNA cannot not just be used against a person alone they have to find that missing piece because most killers like to be on the search teams so when they find the body they have an excuse as to why their dna was there. there were alot of people searching spiting etc.... yes i know they have thing in place for searches but basically most people were searching even after the guy called off the search.
@ghostwalk24462 жыл бұрын
Where did you hear about DNA being recovered?
@katieschwartz96892 жыл бұрын
@@ghostwalk2446 its most likely they would have some dna unless they were pro and cleaned everything . but skin sheds every min of the day so there would be skin ...
@ghostwalk24462 жыл бұрын
@@katieschwartz9689 Well I think you're right, most likely there was DNA at the scene, after all this dumbass "bridge guy" didn't know he was being recorded and never thought to check or take the victims' phones. You've got to consider the investigators themselves though, we know one of two things about them. One they are the most incompetent investigators ever, or two they are purposely protecting the killer, so while there was probably DNA at the scene I just don't think it was properly collected. This investigation was botched worse than anything I've ever heard of, the fact that they haven't been criminally charged or at least fired is absolutely baffling, and such a disservice to those poor girls and their families
@katieschwartz96892 жыл бұрын
@@ghostwalk2446 even one piece of strand hair would be there get stuck, skin the tiniest bit gets stuck on clothing or on there skin it always flakes away human dont notice this because its so small . they should have widened the crime scene he could of left dna in an area near.
@vespasian8032 жыл бұрын
It's not all that difficult to narrow down the killer's identity once you accept a few basic facts in the case. At the 2019 Press Conference LE revealed Young Sketch and declared that he was responsible for the murders. It was then revealed through media outlets that LE had possession of Young Sketch 4 days after the murders, on February 17 2017 (murders were February 13). Why didn't they release Young Sketch when they had it and ask the public to identify him? Because they already identified him. They thought he was a witness at the time. At CrimeCon 2018, Sgt Jerry Holeman reveals that LE had several sketches of witnesses, family members, and search party members. The only way LE would have known that is if they identified the people depicted in the sketches they had. In the April 29, 2020 interview with the Carroll County Comet, Sheriff Leazenby stated that the killer had likely been "interviewed but not immediately identified as an offender." So, they had several sketches at the beginning of the investigation and those sketches were determined to be of witnesses, family members and search party members. And the killer had likely been interviewed but not identified as the killer. The killer therefore, was likely considered a witness at the beginning of the investigation. The sketch of him was one of several sketches of witnesses they had all along. His alibi therefore will be one that puts him at the crime scene in order to explain why a witness saw him there (why a sketch of him exists) but will supply an innocent reason for being there that would have survived superficial scrutiny. They know who he is. He was hiding in plain sight as a witness. He changed his appearance dramatically following the release of Young Sketch. He is local, and his family is well-known in the community, just as Leazenby said it would be in that interview.
@ELECTECHNUT3 жыл бұрын
We have video. We have audio. We have the "odd crime scene." Why isn't this person identified? Thank you Dr.Grande for sharing your perspectives. 👍
@JustDr.S3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it seems the police have more evidence than many other murder cases. I hope they have other law enforcement agencies looking at this case. If it's just them, it may not be solved.
@Jesusblowsme6663 жыл бұрын
@@rubberchix calm down man he's just referring to what the police has, not himself
@isunlloaoll3 жыл бұрын
@@JustDr.S wait, so the FBI is not involved?
@JustDr.S3 жыл бұрын
@@isunlloaoll I think other law enforcement agencies were involved. I'm not sure, though.
@plantpants37463 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the suspect didn't take her phone or destroy it...maybe he knew about cell tower pings and didn't want it on him?
@widow2373 жыл бұрын
Pure evil. Heartbreaking story.
@chillallthekildren3 жыл бұрын
I believe the kids witnessed this man doing something vulgar and he for what ever reason killed these girls
@greatcat68183 жыл бұрын
@@chillallthekildren this is so dumb
@KeithCarey333 жыл бұрын
The later sketch was way off. He's over 40, out of shape, and pudgy. Fat freak who is not from the area.
@davebunnell11052 жыл бұрын
Cops been looking for this man for 5 years, flyers, sketch artists, more artists, maybe it would have been a good idea to release the video of the suspect. Not the 2 second release, there is 43 seconds on that tape. The police never released it. For what reason I cannot understand, it's incompetence. Police withhold evidence so when a suspect is found only the suspect knows the truth. Nothing on this tape fits that description. I can't believe they released only 2 second and then had the public guess the identity for years, this might have been solved if the public saw a longer version than just 2 seconds. She went there to meet what she thought was a new love, and this killer showed instead. 43 seconds of a man living in a small town, and we got 2 seconds. The police failed.
@IncognitoGypsy3 жыл бұрын
I think that he knew one of them, and had knowledge they would be there.
@bjarskiweber3 жыл бұрын
I can not imagine the anguish the families felt when the girls went missing. It's sad commentary on our society when two girls can't go out walking in the middle of the day😪
@bjarskiweber3 жыл бұрын
@Robin Yabanks it's also a sad commentary on our society to see comments like yours.....
@marleyex26953 жыл бұрын
I lived near the woods so my friends and I used to play in there often even from a very young age. We knew about the dangers but we still went anyway because people really didn't visit those woods other than us. But whenever I hear of stories like this case my blood literally runs cold because it could of been me or one of my friends. 🙁
@mightymeatymech3 жыл бұрын
@@marleyex2695 our town had the same woods, plus a railroad like these girls' did. I used to walk it constantly until someone creeped out me and an ex (super long story) and also was stalking a friend of mine who walks back there too (another long story). It sucks cause the woods are supposed to be fun for kids away from society, not dangerous
@ivyrose7793 жыл бұрын
This is an unbelievably sad and heinous case, but it is extremely uncommon and, statistically, the likelihood of it happening to any particular person is very low. We should live using common sense and taking precautions known to be effective, but there’s no need to live in fear.
@rubyattwood3 жыл бұрын
@Robin Yabanks funerals
@christinekrebs24203 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I actually was thinking about this case the other day. I wish they could solve it. So happy that one of the girls made the recording. How scary it must have been for them!
@kellybarner87162 жыл бұрын
Both girls loved ‘true crime’ so it’s likely they’d said to each other at some point beforehand ‘wow if I ever get chills from someone,let’s film them’ then they did. They’ve now linked someone via the girls social media that could’ve been the killer but we will only ever find that out weigh after the arrest,if any! I think these girls were amazing and they loved each other,im from the UK and I was literally one of these girls when I was their age,I just wish they would’ve one day got to have been my age,41,love and wishes to both families.xxxx
@fairey663 жыл бұрын
4 years now ... I have so many observations and questions, I’m in the UK 🇬🇧 and this is the crime that I think about nearly everyday, this case and the Madeline Mc Cann are the two that I am most passionate about .. again great a listen thank you 😊
@elinoirsmythe2243 жыл бұрын
It's crazy to me that in such a small town they can't find the killer despite having audio and video evidence! Someone knows, for sure.
@waterunder37183 жыл бұрын
The killer knows and there’s hella info out there and still NOT SOLVED I thought by 2020 they knew who it was
@bhobolate90543 жыл бұрын
It is very possible that they're not even from that area and just came to do that and left
@abelis6442 жыл бұрын
@@bhobolate9054 Someone drove from somewhere else to the middle of nowhere, finds 2 girls, murders them and goes home??? All precisely premeditated and thought through? That makes zero sense.
@brittaolson65502 жыл бұрын
@@abelis644 I would have thought the same, being from a big city. After I moved to a small American town, I found out people would drive to other towns to party or have casual dates, because they didn’t want their reputations ruined. Gay people, too. In small cities, thieves drive over an hour, to the city, to steal goods to sell. I know this because I’m in long term recovery from addiction, and it’s a common thing in those circles. Since then, I’ve been working to solve the (addiction) problem. If it’s a habitual criminal, or someone with deviant interests (clearly), it may be second nature to him, to take his business elsewhere to avoid detection. What does make me think you might be right is that he felt comfortable enough to walk on that bridge, and even to approach someone aggressively, there. Then again, he may have come regularly to visit the place, but it does suggest a high degree of familiarity.
@joanbaczek2575 Жыл бұрын
The audio and video sucks
@carolbenson65243 жыл бұрын
The picture of the man on the bridge seems like an older man.
@erikparent81763 жыл бұрын
Yes, he looks like he has wear and tear in his hips. The way he says "down the hill" sounds like a scolding dad. One sketch looks like a man of about 20, that can go in the trash, I believe.
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki3 жыл бұрын
@@erikparent8176 I noticed that "old man" walk or some kind of bone disease, and he has small feet for his size. There's lots of char. about him besides his face. His lower torso looks very thin, he's not filling out those slim jeans at all. IF it is the killer, he's not at all like the young face in the sketch, but much like the first sketch released.
@erikparent81763 жыл бұрын
@@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki yes, I agree with your analysis. He has so many distinctive features and movements I dont understand why he is not recognized. It's much more likely someone knows him but does not want to come forward.
@oneamong55713 жыл бұрын
This whole thing smells. Either law enforcement is purposely trying to confuse the people or there is a cover up. This guy should have been caught. Omg. The guys on video and audio and le has even more video supposedly not released. Very odd.
@scarlettbutler28733 жыл бұрын
@@erikparent8176 I agree with you. Seems at least in his 40s.....
@Boeing-oy6kw3 жыл бұрын
“And they will probably never know.” Well that was depressing.
@karawigley62313 жыл бұрын
Came back here because there was a man arrested for kidnapping a 10 year old girl that investigators are looking into & all the characteristics you described, he has. I’ve learned to not get my hopes up when a new person of interest comes up, people will be so certain only for law enforcement to announce they are no longer a POI, but there are some undeniably odd things with this recent guy. 1. The girl he kidnapped was of a similar age as Libby & Abby. 2. He lured her to his house in broad daylight. 2. He lives 20 miles from Delphi. 3. He is an outdoorsman. 4. He alternated between having a job & doing well & being jobless & homeless. This is important because when he was homeless he would often live out of a tent in the woods or under a bridge. 5. On his social media he has several pictures of bridges, trains & old railroad tracks. I know those are not really concrete indicators of guilt but they are still odd nonetheless.
@Modern_Nostalgia3 жыл бұрын
"Guys...down the hill" tells me the suspect knew where to direct the girls to maximize his chances of a successful crime. He likely knew the area, and there must've been some shred of DNA evidence left at the crime scene. It baffles me he still hasn't been apprehended despite all the resources, tips, leads and coverage this case has received. Thank for covering this one Dr. Grande.
@lesmorris102 жыл бұрын
He took helluva chance on a warmish day in broad daylight to commit the crime..its unbelievable..and he so far has gotten away with it..wow
@JacobC4792 жыл бұрын
They've said they have DNA but not what kind or if its a full profile but it sounds like they do have DNA but he's not in the system.. maybe familial DNA will solve it.
@katieschwartz96892 жыл бұрын
DNA cannot not just be used against a person alone they need another piece of puzzle because most killers like to be on the search teams so when they find the body they have an excuse as to why their dna was there. i mean alot of people searched and spat etc... makes you think. i also know this is fact because i study criminology . its a tactic killers do
@matthoward85462 жыл бұрын
Yes, there has to be DNA.
@brittaolson65502 жыл бұрын
@@lesmorris10 And in a small town like that? It’s crazy.
@gjh92993 жыл бұрын
This case is so scary and frustrating. The girls were so smart to use their phone. Ive seen the crime scene on another channel, it's down a hill from the bridge. It;s not very far from the bridge
@lorimiller43013 жыл бұрын
I think it was Grey Hughes Investigates that had some great information on this case. He's very thorough and has a few long episodes, you might find that picture of where the Girls were found if it's been released.
@BoomerElite4u3 жыл бұрын
@Lance Anthony nah, dozens of people saw the bodies during the search. Next day someone went back and filmed the yellow tape and uploaded it on KZfaq.
@wastedcentury18053 жыл бұрын
Bodies location was only 170 yards straight line from end of bridge. But the route requires two stages of down hill, some zig zagging, brief walk through a semi-wooded area, then across Deer Creek and up a 4 foot bank. I think an aspiring perpetrator could identify that area as ideal in one or two visits, whether or not he had ever been there beforehand
@abigailnorfield1113 жыл бұрын
if libby could of zoomed in dang it
@Nathann5563 жыл бұрын
I had heard that there were multiple crime scenes. There is a barn they were apparently taken to where I would imagine most of sexual assault occurred
@Synths-n-Guitar3 жыл бұрын
This horrible case but needs to be analysed so that people. Can be educated on dangers that world unfortunately has. Thank you for covering this case
@lousunny56823 жыл бұрын
Right it’s absolutely true. When have we ever in time seen a possibly person of interest caught on camera and uploaded on a social media platform directly from the victim. That is horrifying
@lorimiller43013 жыл бұрын
@@lousunny5682 yeah and can you believe with all that that he's still at large ?!! Outrageous, seriously crazy that he's not been caught!
@lousunny56823 жыл бұрын
@@lorimiller4301 Lol omg that’s so creepy 😩 rural areas make me feel weird sometimes because you could have people hiding out. Did you see how someone solved the zodiac killer puzzle?
@codyzachary30473 жыл бұрын
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@codyzachary30473 жыл бұрын
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@rupertperiwinkle44772 жыл бұрын
Father and son (Kline) cat-fishing duo that target underaged girls. Son lures them via social media - Instagram - tells them where to meet - promises them something upon their arrival? Then, son hides "down there", underneath the bridge, while father walks towards them, tells them to "go down there." There, they are killed. Strange how neither killer thinks of taking the girl's cellphone with them. This evidence was left behind for police to find.
@gigiravel Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande can you please do an update on this case? They have arrested Someone in connection with the girls murder. I would like to know your analysis on the suspect. Thank you so much I just love your channel 🤗
@NinjaFalllow3 жыл бұрын
As an Indiana native that lives a few counties away from Delphi, I appreciate you covering this.
@cazbee61263 жыл бұрын
I think this crime was definitely planned. He knew where he wanted to take his victims, and with police saying the scene was weird and there was a lot of evidence he may have even set it up beforehand. Then he just had to wait for suitable victim/s. 💕 These precious girls
@78twood Жыл бұрын
Thank God for that 5% ! Well as far as the profile, he did have a substance abuse problem and may be a narcissistic. It does seem that these killers are usually your ordinary guy that nobody suspects! That’s the scariest thing about these people 😳
@ND-or5so Жыл бұрын
Yes, they are missing something upstairs that forms a human being as a whole. Which is empathy, no consciousness or shame of their actions. You will only see feeling for themselves, surprised they got caught, in denial, disconnected, and devoid of sympathy towards their victims, etc.
@simonw1313 Жыл бұрын
Still got to get over that "only 20% of cold case arrests end in convictions" hurdle. And if they are to do that then they will have to have a lot more evidence (possible) than they put in the recently released probable cause to get him detained.
@beckycarter92113 жыл бұрын
The monster on that bridge is obviously a middle-aged man at the very least! It's almost like the authorities are trying to confuse the public with the new sketch of an obviously younger suspect!
@crickett48773 жыл бұрын
Or there was more than one person involved - which explains a lot btw.
@stewartj34073 жыл бұрын
I disagree that it wasn’t premeditated. I believe it was. He went to that trail that day to kill someone, he just didn’t know who it was gonna be yet, or if the opportunity would arise.
@taranorris57403 жыл бұрын
I agree 100 % ... these girls were just an easy target. He had gone there to kill that day. He is local and probably has killed in the region before. Or even the bordering the states.
@youtubeplayer81733 жыл бұрын
I agree..he was holding some things in his jacket, from what I see imo, premeditated for sure...also agree he was looking to do what he did & they happened to be there when he saw opportunity
@murdermysterymissing80443 жыл бұрын
If the girls hadn't been there, he probably would have killed someone else on the trail that day. This was not a spur of the moment thing. He planned this well in advance. I think a person could also stake out a potential crime scene long before they commit a crime there, and that he could live outside of the area.
@memyself44313 жыл бұрын
Not sure I agree. I think he was comfortable in those kinds of areas and knew the area and those girls happen to be there and he has done this before but didn't premeditate the murders. I don't think he said he would kill whoever randomly walks across this bridge!
@heatherfox96723 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@Nursepractitionerd3 жыл бұрын
I’m a home visiting nurse practitioner based out of Indianapolis and I drive through Delphi sometimes on the way to see some of my patients. It is really weird to know that something so scary happened in such a quiet town. Their poor families.
@edwardhlavka58432 жыл бұрын
He must have been somewhere that day, gas station, groceries, food pantry, something considering that all of us are recorded an average of 19 times a day as we move around.
@mindrolling243 жыл бұрын
Looking at the man’s gait and overall appearance I think he’s more likely to be over 40 years of age. That’s just my initial impression.
@grantp40223 жыл бұрын
I'd say 48 -52 yrs old, so why are they publishing 2 different photos on the man ?
@sandelemental65023 жыл бұрын
It's hard to make any inferences from his gait because he's walking across a fairly dumpy bridge. Being able to move that quickly across it seems like it would be of someone younger and more daring.
@LITMOVIESCENES2 жыл бұрын
@@grantp4022 its the property owner
@abbylex17613 жыл бұрын
i remember this happening, i live in indiana and i was in middle school at the time. my mom wouldn’t let me go anywhere by myself for weeks, and i thought it was stupid at the time. the more details i learned about the case the more i truly just trust my mom
@carolv84503 жыл бұрын
Good thinking!
@svenskgangmiljo21682 жыл бұрын
It was naive and irresponsible by their parents to leave them on their own in such a isolated wooded area. There are alot of people who are just nuts out there. In the woods there are people who are fiercely territorial and see strangers or intruders as prey.
@brittaolson65502 жыл бұрын
That must have been terrifying, and so sad for you. I’m sorry you had to go through that. I grew up in the inner city and was afraid a lot, from about age 12. I didn’t want to mature into a young woman, because crimes against that age group and gender were common, especially trafficking. Delphi seems like such e nice place to grow up. That’s why I moved to a small town when I had kids. It’s scary to know that nowhere is really safe. I took a good R.A.D. self defense class in college, and it has helped me to feel safer. They teach you real police ground tactics and other fighting skills that you practice on men in padded suits. It makes you better prepared! I hope you are able to feel safe again. ❤️🩹
@brittaolson65502 жыл бұрын
@@svenskgangmiljo2168 It wasn’t in the wilderness, where there are hillbillies and outlaws hiding out. At worst, there might be drug dealers or homeless people camping, but probably not camping in February. It was a city park, if in a very small city. There are clearings with buildings and farm land all around. Some of the YT channels have aerial views of the whole area, from GPS and helicopter footage from the search for the girls. I know Gray Hughes does. It was thought to be a safe place for a long time but, sadly, nowhere is completely safe. It’s hard, when you have kids and the whole family is working. I used to put my kids in structured activities until I got home but, around age 11-14, they rebelled against them because they want more independence, and to spend time with friends. I have lived in a town that size, and would probably feel my teens were safer in a nature park than unsupervised in town. Town kids are often bored, and get into trouble. I know they were good kids, but so are mine, and they saw kids using drugs, stealing, vandalizing, and they would try to pick fights in town. (We moved to a bigger city, with more for teens to do, and it helped). Maybe home is safest, but if adults aren’t home, perpetrators also attack people in their homes or yards, and you can’t really control if your kids stay there. Having family in Sweden, I think what really needs attention is the American work week. Many Americans work 60-80 hours. Even one full time job is 40 hours plus commute, and I’ve often put in more time to get the work done, and have take home work. If we had a 30 hour work week and public higher education so older siblings don’t have to work, it would be possible to supervise kids adequately. Their family seems very responsible to me, considering the circumstances.
@ebraden093 жыл бұрын
I think this case particularly haunts people because we can literally see and hear their murderer. It makes it particularly frustrating. If I was those girls I’d probably think “Okay if something bad happens, they will surely see this and get him” but that’s yet to be the case. I had a few experiences with creepy/off people when I was younger. At the time I just brushed it off as “that guy was weird” but now I’m older I think about the what-ifs. It’s so scary and I hope that those girls bravery wasn’t for nothing.
@BrandyTexas214 Жыл бұрын
I know we had a dude try to get us in his truck one time.. I think back on that and wonder what he was planning..
@icgreener Жыл бұрын
Well… today is the day, Dr. Grande, justice for Abbey & Libby! Hallelujah. ✨
@loissarachman95623 жыл бұрын
Dear Dr. Grande, I admired your commentary. What concerns me is that I don't think the police are recognizing that the audio voice of the suspect is of an older person, not a younger person as in the newer sketch.
@ems49153 жыл бұрын
Just finished the “Down The Hill” podcast and this video appeared! Perfect timing. Thank you for your insight, Dr. Grande.
@shelleycarlson61843 жыл бұрын
It was a great podcast!
@joyhruska93773 жыл бұрын
@@shelleycarlson6184 yes it was! Very informative and well done.
@LaFaveBros3 жыл бұрын
It’s up to ALL of us to put an end to amorphous blob-related violence.
@nolagirl24583 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@nolagirl24583 жыл бұрын
@Charlie Hunt my God NO! I thought the amorphous blob comment was funny, just a lite note! & you must to even think that way, so check YOURSELF
@BurgerHospital3 жыл бұрын
@Charlie Hunt You find it necessary to start shit for no reason?
@teaspoonsofpeanutbutter64253 жыл бұрын
@@BurgerHospital there's always ONE who has to be a cockwomble.
@QCDoggies3 жыл бұрын
@@teaspoonsofpeanutbutter6425 I'm immediately adding Cockwomble to my vocabulary!
@colorbugoriginals44573 жыл бұрын
Update May 2021: James Chadwell II has been arrested for kidnapping a nine-year-old and is being looked at in connection to what happened to Abby and Libby. Interestingly, he kind of looks like the sketches.
@SobekLOTFC3 жыл бұрын
The killer is MH- a youth pastor. He changed his appearance drastically after the murders and his voice is an exact match. The killer posed the girls like they were being baptized as well.
@colorbugoriginals44573 жыл бұрын
@@SobekLOTFC that's an interesting theory, I think I know who you're talking about. Was some evidence released suggesting the baptism con?
@SobekLOTFC3 жыл бұрын
@@colorbugoriginals4457 look up Delphi UMC on YT- he is all over their videos. The pre 2017 videos he walks and talks just like BG sketch/video.
@colorbugoriginals44573 жыл бұрын
@@SobekLOTFC gawd. Dying to know his alibi.
@SD02242 жыл бұрын
@@SobekLOTFC if that is true that’s so disturbing . Wouldn’t surprise me that some youth pastor had some sadomasochistic sexual deviancy. My guess is who ever it was , the person catfished the girls to meet him near or on the trail to hang out . Hence the killer was waiting and had a kill site already set up prior to kidnapping them
@johnhanks83332 жыл бұрын
I believe the Carroll County Sheriff' should check out a guy who worked at a meat packer, wrote a post on the anniversary of the murders.He knew and spoke with Libby German and lives in Delphi, is part of the Snoeburger Farm family. He also looks like a sketch I did after studying the photo of the guy on the bridge taken by Libby's phone.
@al3cxa3 жыл бұрын
It’s been 3 years and I still think about this case every other month and do some research to see if there are any new leads or if justice has been served. I’m so sorry for the girls and the family I am hoping and praying this case never gets cold and justice gets served.
@kate4biglittlevoices Жыл бұрын
And today we have news 📰
@LoodaLee3 жыл бұрын
Again, Dr. Grande, you hit the nail on the head. Looks like police wants to discourage any tips coming in. Thank you for covering this sad case. Hopefully this cold case will one day be solved. 💜
@roxannemoser3 жыл бұрын
I concur. How can the police have a full snapchat video of the crime, release only the bridge walking incident, yet still haven't found him yet? Libby practically handed their killer over. And had they not given up the search, Abby would've been found alive. She succumbed to her injuries shortly before they were found.
@Adam-bq2vw3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the reasoning would be behind that?
@anonymousperson30233 жыл бұрын
@@roxannemoser that's not suspicious to me. Does that snapchat video identify the man? No. I can barely see the facial features on his face
@barbm10013 жыл бұрын
@@roxannemoser I know that diff dates were given for each girl for a day apart. Is there any other fact that would lead you to be the truth? I’m curious.
@LoodaLee3 жыл бұрын
@@Adam-bq2vw I'm following this case on true crime channels and if I understood correctly they do have a good suspect but nothing is moving forward. It's mind boggling.
@23parisarm3 жыл бұрын
I was always baffled about the “odds” of this crime taking place and also for the longest time thought it had to be random, but the more I listen and watch stuff about this case I’ve started thinking maybe it’s possible the killer was watching, or following them, not necessarily in real life, but online? I just feel like everything is to specific to be a random event!?
@monalisanail54312 жыл бұрын
I agree I believe this individual had his eye on both of those girls for quiet a while...I do not believe he just showed I think he secretly followed them there
@brandonh94022 жыл бұрын
@@jjm2948 It has been confirmed that Libby was Infact talking to the Anthony_Shots account.
@DtotheG923 жыл бұрын
It's an absolute travesty that they haven't got this guy. Heart goes out to the parents.
@rebeccascott26173 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this case, Dr. Grande. My heart aches for these girls. 💔
@DuckiesDad083 жыл бұрын
I know the topic is grim, but I appreciate your uploads. Life’s been difficult lately, and your videos help me understand the world a bit more. Makes me feel less disoriented in disorienting times. Ty.
@daseguin2 жыл бұрын
This was revenge murder, aimed specifically at Libby German. Abby was just unfortunate to be with her. This is why Libby was stripped naked and staged, while Abby was laid down fully clothed, coffin style. The small and close knit band of meth heads and cookers that did this did so to exact revenge on Libby's father, Derrick German, who was going to be going to prison for drug distribution, but was let off the hook when he agreed to become a police informant. One of the men involved, Garret Kirts, 2 years later, murdered his ex-girlfriend by strangulation, which was planned, and did this with 2 or 3 of the others. He also confessed to the strangulation murder of a man 2 weeks previously, which he was never charged for, due to corruption within the LE system. He and the girl who was involved in the other girl's murder are each doing 55 and 45 years. Garret was best friends with BG, and BG is the only one of the bunch that is not incarcerated on any charges. These all knew that land and Ron Logan's property like the back of their hand, and had grown up going there and partying out there regularly. The two that i mentioned were murdered by strangulation were most likely killed because there was fear that they were going to come forth to LE regarding what they knew about Libby's and Abby's murders.
@BodhiSatfa-co2zz3 жыл бұрын
Doctor Todd, would you revisit this case now that James Brian Chadwell has been arrested? Thanks Doc
@cynthiakluck-johnson58953 жыл бұрын
Yes please do
@dkava763 жыл бұрын
Notice how closely Chadwell fits the profile the doc lays out? Very strange.
@emilyflotilla9313 жыл бұрын
I did interact with a killer once, or should I say I went to middle and high school with a guy. Was always nice to me, funny yet shy in big groups. Years later he killed a young man who was the object of his then partner's eye...a lust triangle gone wrong. Took his body out to a county forest area and left him. He wasn't found for ages, can't recall how long, but at minimum weeks. The further twist is that the young man's mother who was killed turned out to be my first AA sponsor. Gives me shivers. (She helped me tremendously, been sober since, 37 years!
@k.ohalloran87583 жыл бұрын
My very first boyfriend, from 25 yrs ago, he just recently was arrested for killing his estranged wife. Took her out to a secluded, wooded area aNd shot her in the head. Left her there for over a month before she was found. ....creepy as Hell...
@sean87362 жыл бұрын
Have a large brandy to celebrate your sobriety
@emilyflotilla9312 жыл бұрын
@@sean8736 Sorry, it's gonna take more than that to trigger me. I wouldn't suggest saying that to a newcomer though...very empathic of you to weigh in. ❤🕯
@emilyflotilla9312 жыл бұрын
@@sean8736 By the way, I just celebrated 39 years.
@brittaolson65502 жыл бұрын
@@k.ohalloran8758 Very creepy. I will never meet an ex-partner alone. Too many stories, like that!
@209_mentality43 жыл бұрын
One from my home state!! Very sad and baffling case. Someone somewhere has to recognize that man. My heart breaks for their families. Great video dr!
@rockergirl24893 жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much Dr Grande for looking at this case . Such a tragic and haunting story . Really hope these poor girls and their families get justice 💕💕
@SantaCruz0082 жыл бұрын
At first I was upset when he said that the case will probably never be solved, but now that I’m thinking more clearly and objectively, I believe the doctor is correct in his analysis…unfortunately, this case might never be solved, but people will never give up trying to solve this case…
@stephw24153 жыл бұрын
Y’all don’t even know how long I’ve waited for Dr. Grande to cover this. Someone knows who this man is. Let’s get justice for these girls, stop protecting him, he will do it again.
@Mimi-cq4bg3 жыл бұрын
I've been through a family member going missing. The despair is unspeakable and its unending.... even after they found her body. Its not just losing them... thats hard. The questions are worse because you know the answers aren't likely to come. Its been fifteen years for my family and its still an unknown. It breaks you in a way nobody else can understand unless you've been through it.
@reybensoulmates64983 жыл бұрын
So tremendously sorry for your loved one and your and your family's loss.
@tarabraun86672 жыл бұрын
@Mimi 78 I understand completely. The questions can drive you insane if you allow them. I pray for PEACE for you. My Father was murdered 3 years ago and every day I wonder what happened. And, you are right. Not many people understand the depths of the pain you feel.
@fabylash8003 жыл бұрын
We all try so hard to help catch this Killer. Everyone who has commented or input should be applauded. Going on what evidence we have, it's a huge war on crime really, keeps it active which is important. Let's keep our passion alive were getting there!!! Big Thank you to all who try to help find the missing piece of the puzzle. God Bless you All.
@janetbenning26453 жыл бұрын
I would never ever allow my child to be on that bridge.
@deborahmazza81233 жыл бұрын
Agree. The documentary on TV said it is a well known place for kids to hang out. Knock it down.
@thenorthwestpassage28803 жыл бұрын
Weird and sad this was never solved, especially since it’s in modern times
@neuralmute3 жыл бұрын
@Derren Mathoera It could be? But I think there should be some hard evidence if it was him. I'm not sure, just not satisfied.
@michelmurphy19793 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I hope there is a break soon.
@mysteryjunkie98083 жыл бұрын
60% of all homicides today still go unsolved.
@valeriyav21493 жыл бұрын
@Derren Mathoera If it was him, the case would have already been closed. They have DNA from the crime scene and they have Paul Etter's DNA. It doesn't match. Otherwise, the police would have claimed him a murderer a long time ago. He was, however, wanted for kidnapping and sexual assault of a woman in Tippecanoe County. That's why he had that standoff.
@SuperDonnasmith3 жыл бұрын
And especially since they have DNA? Are they sitting on the DNA or have they run it? Also they should be doing a genealogy trace for relatives if this person is not in a national data base of criminals.
@ArifahBaksh3 жыл бұрын
I'm having a 'Grande' old time binging Dr. Grande videos... sorry not sorry lol
@MusicLeeSarah3 жыл бұрын
I'm just drinking and reading the comments. "Large"
@dirtysanchez9413 жыл бұрын
Right? I love Dr. Grande. Since the pandemic, it's become a joy binge watching. Unfortunately for me, the 5 pound bucket of red vines licorice isn't lasting as long as I hoped. 😘
@dirtysanchez9413 жыл бұрын
@Robin Yabanks 😏🔥
@dirtysanchez9413 жыл бұрын
@@MusicLeeSarah Cheers!
@Jesusblowsme6663 жыл бұрын
Grande translated to english is Big lol
@mollyjones41653 жыл бұрын
I think the killer was stalking. This wasnt spontaneous. It was the day before Valentine's Day. I think he was in the area to find someone to commit a crime against. He was lurking around there waiting for people to show up who he felt he could victimize. He could have been there on other days doing the same only not to have anyone appear who he thought he could victimize.
@dianemoose99822 жыл бұрын
With all the dangers now days from the internet all kids need taught in school as a special class about the evilness that’s lurking out there on the internet. I strongly feel the older girl was the one who was communicating with this guy and he played he was the young good looking model. They planned to meet this good looking guy at the bridge. Then seen this old scruffy looking guy come towards them and realized they were scammed and in deep trouble. Girls for one are so vulnerable and trusting. Parents everywhere need to be on top of what your kids are doing!! P.S. There would never be a day in hell I’d let any of my kids walk on that dangerous bridge! It needs to be torn down
@dyamano2 жыл бұрын
Diane Moose ~ I think u r on to something there bout social media that somehow he was able to contact one or both of these girls / or followed one or both on social media !
@kayhawkins59253 жыл бұрын
The killer probably watched this maybe even left a comment. These people watch everything about their crime to relive the excitement and thrill.
@pknnbeach75253 жыл бұрын
LE stated they believe he watches the coverage on their conferences to the public.
@blackjains54213 жыл бұрын
Could even be u
@kayhawkins59253 жыл бұрын
@@blackjains5421 more likely you.
@blackjains54213 жыл бұрын
@@kayhawkins5925 And if it is?
@kayhawkins59253 жыл бұрын
@@blackjains5421 if it is the self loathing and self hate what drives you. The sense of control over life and death boosts your low self esteem. Taking the life of people who may had made contributions to mankind a low life like yourself is a nothing. The last thought in your mind upon death will be the most depraved thing you did to someone else and that last thought will be your eternal hell which rightfully you deserve. Maybe you escaped justice here on earth yet there is a hell quietly waiting for you.
@lnc-to4ku3 жыл бұрын
One of the most frightening types of killers, and every parents worst fear! Thank you for your thoughts!
@nicklasvoncloust50012 жыл бұрын
"One never knows where danger lurks..." Excellent comment Dr. Grande.
@EASTSIDERIDER707 Жыл бұрын
Time to revisit after a suspect has been recently been arrested and charged.
@RockinTheBassGuitar3 жыл бұрын
This one is particularly chilling considering that, if the killer is truly a resident of that small town, they seem to be able to carry on without any guilt to make them confess.
@OstblockLatina3 жыл бұрын
Do not expect from mentally ill people (a big chance the killer is one such person) to act normal. Applying sane person's logic to such individuals doesn't make sense.
@chunkyMunky3293 жыл бұрын
Choosing not to confess is extremely common amongst serial killers. So that does not make this case exceptional at all.
@jent38023 жыл бұрын
Dr Grande with the roast. Also, i live in the town that daniel nations lived in. I drove by his house before the killings and that dude mean mugged me to chills. I could see it. But isp dropped the ball fs. These girls deserve justice.
@MsFunnybags3 жыл бұрын
@@jent3802 The dead don't care about justice. Their families and their community deserves peace and to feel secure again.
@jent38023 жыл бұрын
@@MsFunnybags ok elizabeth. Semantics. But i think we both agree on the need for lawful resolution.
@Peter_crippN3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see "Dr. Grande (Todd Grande) mental health & personality" when he hits 600k
@sherunswithscissors3 жыл бұрын
I want to see which channels he watches - lots of videos on patreon for Dr Grande’s back story.
@MusicLeeSarah3 жыл бұрын
The two OG Dr grande fans right here... (I say that in a non sarcastic tone)
@Stebon64803 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see "The Grande Analysis" weekdays at 1pm on ABC!
@pamela09243 жыл бұрын
Only watch this channel & TCRS- both are absolutely stellar, both gentlemen brilliant.
@sandracmyers3 жыл бұрын
Amorphous blob against violence, you just kill me Dr.Grande
@SawyerFord133 жыл бұрын
That man doesn’t walk or dress like a younger person. My guess would be 40 or more years of age
@2alexkom3 жыл бұрын
Yes.I think between 45-60
@niax69203 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m thinking too. I feel like I’m looking at a 45-50 year old man. From what I understand, the police have him at 18-40.
@2alexkom3 жыл бұрын
@@niax6920 Do You know how did he killed them?Shoot or choke or stabbed?
@niax69203 жыл бұрын
@@2alexkom No, I don’t. I don’t think the police have released the cause of death 😒
@garretphegley87963 жыл бұрын
It is Indiana though.
@gram59633 жыл бұрын
I can not get enough perspective on this case! I am excited to hear your take on it. Such a heartbreaking story. Thank you so much for bringing more attention to it. 💕
@francescawilliams81773 жыл бұрын
Liberty and Abigael left a trail of their murderer and we still can’t find him. It took too long for Law Enforcement to release his video, somebody would have identified him.
@ticrific3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention it took them years to add “guys” to the “down the hill” audio. It makes me frustrated bc what was the purpose of leaving out “guys”???
@lorimiller43013 жыл бұрын
Maybe they thought the "guys" was more of an identified use of the term. Coaches, Teachers, someone use to being informal with Children would be more likely to say guys instead of girls ? I don't know thats my guess at the moment 🤔
@JustDr.S3 жыл бұрын
At this point, they should release a little more details. Cause of death might help. I hope they're not doing the investigation on their own. Seems like they could use a lot of help.
@memeburgler1873 жыл бұрын
@@lorimiller4301 I thought the exact same thing, or someone who has seen them before
@ducati1353 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing. Someone’s gate (the way they walk) is a unique characteristic in itself.
@wilhallman28903 жыл бұрын
7:23 because it's been alleged that they were "catfished" there, hence the second photo of the perp is actually the image of the "boy" they thought they were communicating with on Snapchat
@tequilasunrise72 жыл бұрын
How do you know that?
@chrisschneider3873 Жыл бұрын
Happy to say Dr. Grande got this one wrong. The police just made an arrest of a Delphi resident, Richard Allen. He is being held without bond.
@ex_nazguul3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Dr Grande, I listen to them at work with my headphones while stocking shelves. Makes time go by much faster. Keep up the great work
@usadrumhead3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Dr. Grande would be an amazing educator. Really seems like the kind of guy who could make a massive difference to undergrads or high schoolers
@sdmakeupandentertainment Жыл бұрын
The only details I could find to this day about cause of death or the crime scene was that they were covered in blood, that the bodies were staged, and pieces of clothing were missing. I would of liked to hear your analysis of the mindset of the person based on that. Also, since you posted this there has been an arrest and I noticed that the man they arrested worked at CVS, was married, had a family, no criminal record, and was totally unassuming. He was hiding in plain sight. But we still know nothing because everything is sealed.
@flightofthebumblebee95292 жыл бұрын
There was more recorded.... The one girl saying "He's still behind me isn't he?" And her friend says "Yep". Then one of them says "He has a gun!". He likely used the gun to herd them down the hill to the other side of the creek . The very odd part is how the search parties didn't find them sooner. The timeline is so bizarre.
@pamcakes12 жыл бұрын
All rumor.
@Gigi-hi3dc3 жыл бұрын
Omg cannot wait to watch this one tonight, very interested to hear your perspective. Although there really isn't that much info made public on this case.
@Debora_BR_IL_NL3 жыл бұрын
Against the odds, let's have hope that this case will be solved soon 🙏
@sarahanne__3 жыл бұрын
I hope so to
@maryrockhold82583 жыл бұрын
Perhaps there are people who don't want it solved. Politicians? Law enforcement? Family?
@sarahanne__3 жыл бұрын
@@maryrockhold8258 next you'll be saying the queen of England is a lizard
@maryrockhold82583 жыл бұрын
What a great analogy! I imagine they could probably walk about the same distance in the same amount of time.
@youtubeplayer81733 жыл бұрын
@@maryrockhold8258 kick rocks...
@sjrlas Жыл бұрын
Nice. You answered every question I had about how she recorded him and why he didn't get rid of the phone. Concise and to the point, as usual, you delivered another interesting recap of the Delphi murders.
@prestonnorris98223 жыл бұрын
It seems to me the cops are covering for someone and know a lot more than they are letting on .
@songbirdy3 жыл бұрын
I don't think they are covering for anyone. I think they just want to be able to really prove their case. If they charge him and in court they cannot prove it beyond a reasonable doubt he walks free and they cannot charge him ever again.
@lower_y3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Mr. Norris. The perpetrator had to be protected by LE to be able to get away with this murder. Delphi is in a very corrupt county related to drugs. I am praying that the killer is exposed and everyone who helped hide his identity. May their families have a small measure of peace ✌️
@songbirdy3 жыл бұрын
@@lower_y Do you think all LE is protecting him or is it possible there are clueless ones on the case? Just asking because I am hearing more and more about drugs and corruption in that county the more i read.
@Tsumami__3 жыл бұрын
Keeping information from the public doesn’t mean they’re covering for anyone. It means they’ll be able to charge the person easier when they inevitably do catch him. It means they’ll also be able to eliminate suspects easier.
@Liverpool50953 жыл бұрын
The FBI flew to Delphi and took an active part in investigating this crime soon after it happened. This is why to me these claims hold no weight. Its not like only local cops have handled this crime. The fbi came in and handled it too. The authorities have released his image and voice. They need to keep some things close to their chest.
@popeye52743 жыл бұрын
German was smart to take a video/pic and record the voice. Very sad case. Prayers to the girls and their families. 🙏🏼
@marycampbell88553 жыл бұрын
My thoughts too. She was very brave and quick-thinking to do that. It's distressing to see the lack of progress on the case.
@jami298413 жыл бұрын
For her to do that, she had a feeling they weren’t going to make it out of that alive... chilling and so sad. Prayers for the families🙏🏽🙏🏽
@lerin73363 жыл бұрын
You just described the suspect they’ve recently arrested. Well done analysis, Dr.!! I hope we see justice in our lifetime
@jamieohiogal9559 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to perhaps a new video commentary on recent events. This video very revealing for that moment in time.
@jhholliday49663 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the police should give a little more info...if they have any to offer...
@84blizzle3 жыл бұрын
Usually info they hold back is because it's critical to the investigation. Like, for example, say someone gets shot to death and they don't release info on what type of gun it was, so when they interrogate someone they might slip up and say "I don't even own a .45 cal gun," which basically gives himself away. Albeit, this is a lazy example but you know what I mean.
@OstblockLatina3 жыл бұрын
Police is notorious to mask lack of knowledge by pretending they have it but don't want to share it.
@ticrific3 жыл бұрын
@@84blizzle but in this case I can guarantee they had info that wouldn’t harm the case. It took them YEARS to release the “guys” part of the audio. What was the point in leaving out that one word? There was no need to do that. Now, the rest of the recording might contain graphic stuff where you can hear the violence if they have it, so not releasing that would make sense. I understand leaving out details of the murder and crime scene. I just feel like they failed us by not sharing as much of the recording as they could have. I feel like they might have more recordings. Wether or not that is graphic we will likely never know, but I’m certain they could have done more to help us sooner
@WhitneyDahlin3 жыл бұрын
@@ticrific I agree 1,000%. Releasing a few more words from the audio recording won't hurt the case. It's basically impossible to recognize someone's voice off of four words alone. It just isn't enough. If it was possible the police would have whoever the killer is in custody already. It's been 3 almost four years and they are no closer to solving it now than they were to begin with. if the killer really is a local like they believe because of how comfortable the killer is walking across the bridge that had gaps in it if they released more of the audio recording everyone in that small town would recognize that voice.
@davidgray15153 жыл бұрын
Cops are involved. No one can be as inept as the cops in this case appear.