Let Kicks be Kicks | Vital Kick Generator Tutorial

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@piotr_jurkiewicz 10 ай бұрын

GOOOOOOLDDDDD

@henriquematias1986 Жыл бұрын

If you change the grid of the LFO you don’t change the amount of modulation to 2 octaves or 1 octave. The amount of modulation is set via “modulation amount”. The grid is just a visual representation but if you don’t change the MOD AMOUNT accordingly you are just increasing the number of lines in the screen

@akshaysreeram1164 10 ай бұрын

Yeah it would only be a linear function if he put it to 36 as well. Else every grid is going to have a 36/24 increase. Was I right sir?

@templecreations2351 10 ай бұрын

he was partly right, if the value of you pitch modulation is 24 and the grid is set to 24 rows, then each row is 1 semitone.

@mantrasoul 2 ай бұрын

i was just gonna write this too hehe

@loganshaver1178 16 күн бұрын

@@templecreations2351 Yeah but the problem is he doesn't change it, so he clearly doesn't understand what he's doing, and teaching people wrong. You have to take all these videos with a grain of salt and use more for inspiration rather than proper explanations.

@erikbosgra1775 Жыл бұрын

Thnx for this helpfull tutorial 🔥🧡

@SilentShiba 9 ай бұрын

Than you Demis

@nopenheimer 6 ай бұрын

@demishellen Please consider dropping the volume on things with high piercing tones like the sweeps around 2:20, for those listening on headphones. Thanks for another great tutorial.

@AlexMusayev 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for this tutorial! Can you confirm please if my understanding is correct: the Key of the kick sound is defined by the cusp points in the pitch changing curve? Just want to be sure I'm getting it.

@fromherebeyond 5 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot. Nice tutorial. Do you know if the lfo are still more precise than the envelopes in Vital?

@sendlocation8476 9 ай бұрын

@ DEMIS HELLEN @ANYONE What key are you making this kick in? Say if I want my kick to be a G. Then I should set the transpose to the number of semitones that is G right? But what I’m confused is in the LFO section where you was talking about drawing in the octaves. Do I have to draw it on the G octave for the LFO drawing? Or I don’t need to do this and can draw whatever and still be in G key? I got confused can you please explain….

@davideparodihc 10 ай бұрын

Hello! I have a question. min 10:20. Why do you need LFO2 as an amp for the oscillator 1 instead of using the ENV1 that is already on volume? Thank you

@DaveDivines 6 ай бұрын

ENV1 wasn't used, LFO is much more accurate than the ENVs so works better to use them, remember to set them to envelope, put smooth down and adjust timing to match your use case (1/16th for psytrance) Also make sure there are 3 main points (brighter dots) which have curve points, one for delay, sustain and release.

@robin_miller_music 6 ай бұрын

I know you said you usually do the processing in the daw, but other than that is there anything else to do once it's in to use it for real? Would you bounce it?

@InnerSyncMusic 11 ай бұрын

But how to make the kick only by envelopes?

@gloubilo132 11 ай бұрын

6'40"...it's not exactly true, the variation is one octave only if, at the same time, the value of your pitch modulation is 12

@polznbladz3242 Жыл бұрын

Interesting demo. I used to always key the kicks to the track and then I listened to James Wiltshire explain why you shouldn't key your kicks to your track. Phase works differently in the low end. He said do what sounds best so I recently started doing that instead. What do you do?

@demishellen Жыл бұрын

Exactly what you said. Kicks are kicks as Joel said 😎 in some circumstances a kick maybe best in the root of your scale however…if my key is A minor then I might want my kick to sit above the root note bass, on a C or E for example. Short kick = long bass or long kick - short bass 👍🏼

@polznbladz3242 Жыл бұрын

@@demishellen Im on about the kick being out of the scale entirely. If your track is in A Minor, the kick can be in Ab and sit better than being keyed in the scale. James Wiltshire explains it very well in one of his F9 vids about kicks. Pitch and phase and how it works in the low end. Basically teaches the reverse what I've previously been taught by other producer tutorials. Talks about how you hear the low rumble of thunder from many miles away but you hear the loud crack & clap when lightning is close. Very scientific and insightful

@demishellen Жыл бұрын

Yeah a kick can be out of scale, just as a teaching tool it easier to keep to a note explain the positioning techniques. Technically A tonal like a hat or clap 👍🏻 But I can never claim to know it all, something always comes around the corner to teach you something new.

@polznbladz3242 Жыл бұрын

@@demishellen What? You don't know it all? That's impossible!😀 Everyday is a school day and you are one of the best teachers around👍

@demishellen Жыл бұрын

Haha if I knew everything I would be a very successful man 🤣

@user-ul5ic2rw5h Ай бұрын

It is strange but if you save preset in Vital you will see that there is no Kick "style".

@fallenlegend6682 10 ай бұрын

in vital 180 is already 0 phase you dont have to change that setting

@danatello8489 Жыл бұрын

Great video, I've tried kicks in Vital but I've struggled to make ones without tonality. This should be super useful. But, question: When you put an LFO on transpose, rhe default range is +48. So wouldn't a 12 row grid then mean that every line is 4 semitones, so the first notch isnt C# but E?

@demishellen Жыл бұрын

Yes well spotted. I plan these videos and sometime overlook the obvious. If you pitched by 24 then each not would be matched to each row. 😎

@templecreations2351 10 ай бұрын

@@demishellen*yes, but only if the chosen row amount is 24, right? Because even pitched at 24, a 12 row grid would have every line be 2 semitones rather than 1, or am i missing something? 😅

@vergaerd 11 ай бұрын

Trying to figure out why every first note I play sounds different to the following notes, especially in quick succesion. I'm just using a virtual keyboard with no velocity sensitivity. If I hit a key slowly after another they sound equal, but if I play them faster every hit after the first one is a little quieter. Its like some sort of ducking going on in either my DAW or Vital. I've turned phase to zero... Tried turning the spread down as well make it mono to no avail. I've had this happen on other patches as well. The opposite seems to happen to the sound in this video actually. First note being slightly more quiet than the following.

@InnerSyncMusic 11 ай бұрын

turn phase to 0.

@vergaerd 11 ай бұрын

I did, do and have been for certain sounds. Besides, having phase at more than zero would make every note sound different, my issue is just the first note and then everything that follows sounds the same. It even happens in a recording too.. @@InnerSyncMusic

@InnerSyncMusic 11 ай бұрын

@@vergaerd I understand.But in what way the first note it sounds different?Its louder or lower?

@vergaerd 11 ай бұрын

The first note is louder. I realized just now that it might simply have to do with sustain amount and the way the notes are sequenced/played (in quick succession). That would make sense to me. I'll have some time to test later. If you know anything else it could be, I'd appreciate the input.@@InnerSyncMusic

@victorfunnyman 8 ай бұрын

I think that's an activation issue a lot of plugins may be set to be in an idle state as soon as they don't play, and then come back when playing something again but it's likely that this is due to your sound having a longer tail than expected, meaning that fast successions stack and may alter the sounds that come after

@SimiliaSC 6 ай бұрын

Dear Demis, Very good video, however i tested your method with the vst "Gtune", the grid is set at the max amount of 24/2octaves like in your video, however if you do not change the "oscillator 1 transpose" to 24.00, the progression of the notes does not reflect the true progression of the scale. This is solved by entering the value of "24.00" in the LFO oscillator :), so please consider to make again the first part of your video so that people with no experience can actually see what to do. Thanks and compliments for the video,,, (edit) however that should always be* a multiple of 12

@demesure9843 8 ай бұрын

I've never understood the people in the comment section. This kick sounds bad and is very unusable lol

@demishellen 8 ай бұрын

Remember this is a demonstration of understanding kicks not a “how making the perfect kick”

@real.demesure 8 ай бұрын

Vital is not an option to make good kicks.

@demishellen 8 ай бұрын

@@real.demesure this couldn’t be more wrong. 😑

@real.demesure 8 ай бұрын

@@demishellen I challenge you to make a great kick using this :p

@victorfunnyman 8 ай бұрын

this kick is definitely not for orchestral hits, of course there's just different uses, so even kicks can have different tonalities! Like a bass in house isn't the same as a bass in dubstep, a kick in trance is not the same as a kick in pop