Neoliberalism. The same people claiming women are abused in Afghanistan buy oil from Saudi with no problems using petro dollars. Neoliberals are conflicted people with moral excuses.

the same feminist movement that used afghan women is for geopolitical conquest is the same feminism movement that divided black men and black women during the 60's civil rights movement. Its now coming out that the white feminism movement is nothing more than theatrics.

That congresswoman dressed up in a burque is just the wildest shit. I'm not religious but even i felt offended by that.

That white woman who wore the purdah in Congress claiming to demonstrate oppression of Afghan women, ought to now wear bikini in Congress to demonstrate equality & freedom for American women.

“Empowerment excised from radical struggle” very well put

Here's a quote from an Afghan women (a surgeon) about Afghanistan before the US destroyed it (the first time). "Every girl could go to high school and university. We could go where we wanted and wear what we liked. We used to go to cafes and the cinema to see the latest Indian films on a Friday... It all started to go wrong when the mujahedin(Taliban) started winning. ...these were the people the West supported.”

It's wild to see Zakaria tell all of this to a white feminist news network.

Nothing about how women are treated in Saudi Arabia... nothing....absolutely nothing.

I am only 29 and been in to politics for 3-4 yrs but I am tried of the neoliberal Republicans and Democrats clownery

yes all those strong independent western "feminists" fighting the Taliban in person! is that why the Taliban took Afghanistan in 11 days? 🤣

USSR was actually feminist unlike USA

it was like all american wars. it was profitable.

Lest there be an inkling of doubt to this response, I adamantly disagree with the Taliban policies and practices. However, I also acknowledge that the U.S. and all her western allies that participated in the debacle in Afghanistan have no say in how the country should be governed. All the pearl clutching by major news outlets in the U.S. and Western Europe about “the women” and “the girls” is disgusting as if they care more about these women than their Afghan men. The supposed shocked behavior can hardly hide the fact that crimes against humanity took place and many human beings died as a result of this invasion and occupation. When the U.S. and her NATO allies had maximum forces in Afghanistan they did not sue for peace or tried to negotiate a political solution. Instead they went on an orgy of killing, maiming and destroying. 66,000 Afghani military personal died and this does not account for the tens of thousands of civilians plus those fighting on the side of the Taliban. The Taliban are a part of Afghanistan whether the west likes it or not. The aliens in this scenario are those that traveled thousands of miles to drop tons of bombs and destroy the fabric of that already fragile society. Though I vehemently disagree with the Taliban, it’s not up to me to decide the fate of Afghanistan. Tragically those scenes at the airport could have been avoided if the west sought dialogue and a politically negotiated settlement. The change that will eventually come to Afghanistan must come from within. As for those Afghanis that sold their souls to the U.S. they will soon find out that life in America is not what it is advertised as. They will find out about the grinding poverty in her inner cities. They will see for themselves how shamelessly Americans allow the homeless to flood the streets in major cities. They sold out their countrymen by cooperating with the foreign invaders and of course they are scared for the treason they committed against their own nation. All of this could have been avoided were it not for the arrogance of claiming the right to kill whoever was deemed beneath our so-called “Western” values.

The bushes are complete hypocrites

Seraj is from the Afghan royal family 'lineage' ( accord to wikiped) pre communist revolution Afghanistan when she was put in jail and got to US around the time the CIA began funding the mujahideen.I guess she did not like the communist government that took away her royal status. She never went back til 2003. So, CIA or what?

Rafia, you have a lot of critical information for a troubled world. So, please look at the camera, and don't say, "you know", when it's your job to TELL us because we DON'T... hang in there!

I think she is spot on and that is what the agenda was.

Quick answer; no. It was a feminist pretext. Unless you believe Iraq was a WMD war. BTW the Chinese Uyghur "issue" is also from the 'incubator baby' playbook in order to do to Asia what they did to Afghanistan. See The Grayzone and Daniel Dumbrill channel.

Thank you for this. I wish there'd been more time at the end. Please have both guests back.

as an afghan woman, ofc we were. Our women are denied their basic human rights and we will never stop fighting for them. White women don’t face as much struggle yet they claim that they’re “ helping women” 😐

What a good example of racialist intersectional ''feminism'' (Rafia) on one hand and universalist true feminist (Mahbouba) on the other. The first one inferiorize or reduce feminism under religious and cultural dominations (see her precedent book ''veil''), and was even saying that ''burqa isn't necessarily a sign of oppression'' before being interrupted by the end of the interview (the typical islamic ''feminism'' rhetoric), while the other recognize the universal goods of education and the progress that have been implemented the last two decades despite the war and the occupation of international forces in Afghanistan. Yes the money came from up to bottom, but the afghan women started and struggle from the bottom. It is a question of economics, not of ''fake or white'' feminism. Rafia despises (probably unintentionally) the struggles of afghan women that were smart enough to take the money and work in various NGOs without being blindly unaware of the great flaws of an economy where 75% of the incomes come from foreign aids. Concerning the so-called feminists who were supporting the war and invasion of Afghanistan by the U.S., I think it was neoconservative ideology poorly disguised as ''feminism'' for the media and the social acceptance of the american people, not much the fault of ''white'' feminism because feminists are the ones that suffer the most in the USA from that same religious neoconservative ideology, the best recent example being the abortion ban law in Texas.

Gloria Steinem was C.I.A..

Against all feminism and woke ideologies.

Thanks for listening

Thank you!

shes good. she said let me respond to what she said. clarified her point even more.

Incredible bunch of rubbish. Like saying the weight of a wine bottle caused the Titanic to sink. Total knooblishness. Lol. 😬

Disgusting video title!! US cable 1979 - ‘The United States’ larger interests... would be served by the demise of the PDPA Government, despite whatever setbacks this might mean for future social and economic reforms in Afghanistan.’ Stats from Afghanistan in the 1980s, half the university students were women and women made up 40% of Afghanistan’s doctors, 70% of its teachers and 30% of its civil servants. America created and armed the Taliban (Mujahideen) who hung the Afghan PDPA President by a street light. It's in the history books, you can't hide the Afghanistan that existed under the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan, which the US destroyed.

After many diasporas since the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan 1979 up to 2019, there were 2,727,556 Afghanis Refugees under UNHCR’s mandate and 255,244 Asylum-seekers. None of them went back to their Heritage Lands. The last stronghold of resistance to Taliban - Panjshir Valley. Why are all Afghanis living at west only protesting? None of them are going to join the resistance.Perhaps outside Afghanistan there are no more lions like at Panjshir and the other groups of resistance.

We neglected to arm & train the Afghani women, who are the Afghanis most motivated to defend their rights.

The Taliban have majority support in Afghanistan and even those who oppose them have similar views on women and society. Is Zakaria interested in challenging that?

The war helping Afghan women, the first time i heard that i knew it was fucking bullshit.

Rafia is very much coming from a Western perspective on feminism and women's rights etc. Whatever the pigmentation of other Western feminists her approach and thinking is solidly Western, as alien to Pakistan as pumpkin pie on Thanksgiving.

search "intersectionality is integral to the logic of neoliberal colonialism"

First, the US supported an Islamist uprising against modern urban Afghanistan (beginning with President Carter). Later it intervened militarily with the pretension to modernise the country. Compared with the 1970ties, the situation of women under US occupation was rather restricted.

Imagine living in a world where there is no war Afghanis free! And imagine everyone you meet knows what they are living for They're brothers to me. What a wonderful world it would be, full of love and peace. Where no evil can abide And only righteousness increase We can do it if we only believe We can do it if we all can agree That it's your world and mine YOUR WORLD AND MINE!

Pray for Afghan women! They have had a taste of freedom so may be able to save themselves and their country!

No, it's a drug war.

AMY, just cutting off her guests as usual.

who declared war in afghanistan?

The Afghans took advantage of the 20 years of war that got Al Qaeda out of their way, and got their girls and women educated and working, but they didn't get them the necessary political power to sustain that status after the occupation ended? And that's the fault of white feminists how? Did the Afghans think the occupation was going to continue forever?

Yho!

but did they have won or lost?

Free Snoop Dogg!!

She didn’t mention Amy’s role in this debacle? How in-depth could the book be? Sounds like a good topic if gone into the real players hiding in plain sight.

Thanks for going crazy in a chatroom....remember....nobody cares if you think your a human being

It's almost as if Islam is behind the times.