I came to the same realisation about removing the orange cam when I felt my 25 year old double pedals felt more natural to play. Am enjoying the 930s so much better without the cams.

@Jason Vella I was completely surprised at how much better the 930s felt after pulling the cam spacer. I used a single dw9000 for ten years. It was a great pedal, but I had to set it to maximum eccentricity just to get the feel I wanted, and with the resulting HUGE cam, the pedal always felt super smooth but heavy. When I got my 932, I was lazy and just left the spacers in because I thought only an eccentric cam would feel right. I almost wish Pearl shipped them without the spacers installed. My inspiration to remove them was seeing the DemonChain. It has practically the same cam dimensions as the 930, but without the spacers, for a ton more money.

what kind of bearings you use? do you gave the model?

@@cornellrpgdrums They're Bronson G3 Jaws (Aaron Homoki) bearings. I left the shields on them after adding TriFlow so that I wouldn't have to tear the pedals down and lube them as often. At this point, I service them every six months and haven't had any issues.

Welcome to youtube.

KZfaq doesn’t require the use of music. People just insist on using music. And it usually suck’s.

I feel like I'm in a Casey neistat video

I would have preferred the sound of people shitting over this.

@@AP02112 me too

Did you find any screws for this? Also does the direct drive rub against the bass drum head? I'm thinking of doing the same.

I really recommend NOT doing the mod, it's not an upgrade. It will do nothing to make you a better drummer but it will definitely make you at least $100 poorer. If you insist on improving your gear I highly suggest buying a better used pedal. I got a near mint tama speedcobra 910 double with case for $250 on guitar center about a year ago and its just as good as my $800 custom trick dominators.

@@aaaveritt very interested in this since i was about to pull the trigger on the trick dominators. i have speed cobra 310's, am i wasting my money going to direct drive? please advise

Around 250 for the upgrades, 350 everything including the pedals. Just gotta find those deals.

Thanks for that little gem

I don't have free time to spend searching for royalty free music. All the free rock and metal I've come across is god awful.

Hes prolly a gamer so this is the go to for him 😅

Yeah had to immediately put the video on mute

Comprei um hj usado, :D

Lighter for the slave pedal, since my left foot isn't as strong a my right.

@@aaaveritt Ah okay. Thanks!

There is no simple or short way to answer this but I'll try to be blunt, chain vs. direct drive = no difference. I know, shocking right? Not what you were expecting or wanted to hear? Well it's really simple they both do the same thing, when you push on the pedal they both pull the beater into the drum head. Both will feel the same doing this, they will however feel different on the way back and I can understand why that feeling with direct drive will make people say it's better when in fact it's just different. A chain can bend, a direct drive link can not so there can be some give in the pedal feel with a chain pedal not with direct drive. On the other hand you can adjust a chain pedal to feel like it's direct drive and I'm not talking just the spring tension. Either way, neither one will be faster or make you better, they will only feel different and only you can decide which one you like better or if it even matters. I don't think it does, I can play a $100 chain driven double bass pedal just as fast as I can play a $1000 direct drive double bass pedal, I've tried it & neither is faster or more accurate when adjusted properly. The pedal isn't the limiting factor, the drummer is, me. The $1000 pedal definitely felt way better but that's exactly why it costs that much. More expensive pedals are usually a better build quality (they can handle abuse from gigs and touring better) but they always universally "feel' better. Whenever someone says a pedal is better they always mean is "feels" better and they use words like, smoother, faster, quicker, lighter, punchier, or more power to justify it being "better." I watched a few of your vids, you're a darn good drummer and you're actually playing gigs so I would definitely recommend an upgrade. You should easily be able to find a $500-$600 double pedal on the used market for about $200-$300 and I think that's the sweet spot. But I can't stress this enough, always try before you buy if you can. Btw, I upgraded to the Tama Speed Cobra 910 double pedals, got them used for $250 & they came with the hard carrying case. I used the parts from this pedal and converted it to direct drive as well and made a video covering the build: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKiDh5uem5q7mYk.html

It's really not worth the money upgrading this pedal. If you're looking at the demon drive I'd recommend checking out the Trick Drums Dominator first.

It never will. The weak point is the threads on the footboard. The direct drive link is steel & the footboard is made of aluminum and the steel bolt holding them together is metric with pretty fine threads. You'll rip the threads out the pedal before anything snaps.

@@aaaveritt Isn't footboard made of zinc? Threads you're reffering to are probably M6. Anyway, I hope you're right and that you have millions of beats in front of you without any problems 🙂

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKiDh5uem5q7mYk.html This is what I'm playing now, Tama speedcobra 910. So much nicer in every way than the demonator, but I'd recommend the Trick Drums Dominator, can't beat the price.

Spend the money on a better pedal instead. You can find a speed cobra 910 double pedal on guitar centers used website for $250 and that's about as high end as a normal drummer should really ever need. This pearl pedal used plus the direct drive links cost the same and don't perform even close to the speed cobras. Direct drive is completely unnecessary unless you are actually serious about dedicating your life to being one of the fastest professional double bass drummers around. If that's the case you still want a better pedal, Trick Drums bigfoot.

Ebay has a handful of listings for used Pearl drive shafts. Amazon has cheap generic ones for $15-$30 search "pedal drive shaft" Most drive shafts from most companies will work as well, so you might be able to find a cheaper one from a different brand but any Pearl branded one should work for you. DW will definitely not work and if you're unsure make sure they accept returns, preferably free returns.

If you're playing just for fun or money is tight it's an ok pedal, it'll get the job done but once you get the hang of it you'll want something better. If you're a serious drummer or playing in a band you'll definitely want to go with a better pedal. I always recommend the speed cobra 910 double, you can always find it used for around $250, craigslist or guitar centers website used section. It has all the features you could ever want and can handle all the speed and abuse you could ever throw at it.

@@aaaveritt wow dude, Thx, But I have to hire you as a drum tech for my band, I'm a vocalist and a guitarist for my own rock band btw. I need to hire a drummer. So could you mind to take a look one of my drum covers pls?

In the states it retails for $130

That, Sir, is no music.

@@heinzholdorf5446 -_-

The pedals were awesome and they served their purpose greatly for about the 9 months I played them, I wanted the cheapest direct drive setup to see if I liked how they feel. However they have been returned to stock form because I upgraded to some much nicer pedals and moved all the mods to the new pedals. Not going to spoil it just yet, I did film it, I plan on having it uploaded in 2 or 3 weeks. There were 2 issues I had with this pearl setup though: [1] Main issue was lack of adjustability to accommodate the mods. I didn't realize this at first because its not really that big of a deal, it really wasn't THAT noticeable and I easily figured out how to play around it (just less sloppy, don't let the beater fly back) but it was there enough to annoy me a bit here and there. On a scale of 10 I'd rate it at about 3. But TL:DR first, basically this created a "dead spot" when in the split second where the beater rebounded back as far as it could after a kick, if you tried to push on the pedal again there was enough resistance it felt like someone was holding the beater for a second and would make you miss your hit by a lot messing with your accuracy. Rarely happened though. Only finish reading #1 for the full explanation why: The angle of the footboards and beaters can only be adjusted together, you adjust one the other moves with it. The mods introduced too many issues with the angles so there were 2 extremes. The direct drive link bolted on top of the footboard lowered the footboard and their clearance and reduced all adjustability. Raise the footboard the beater would be too far back and create too much resistance that would actually mess with your accuracy. Move the beaters forward and the footboards would bottom out on the hoop clamp screw or there would be so little travel you wouldn't be able to put power into any kicks, they'd just be weak and quiet. The middle ground, how I had it set up, had a bit of both of those issues. Kicks were a tad soft, which was fine, just kick a little harder which really helped build up my muscles quicker, cool. But this resulted in the main issue, if I played hard and sloppy and let the beater fly all the way back after a hit it would pull the cam up all the way almost parallel to the direct drive link, they would hit and the angle created so much resistance that if you tried pushing the pedal at that split second it wouldn't go or it would lag and hit way after you meant for that beater to land. This really rarely did happen though mainly because of issue #2, I baby'd them. [2] It is a cheaper pedal made all out of aluminum so I never felt like I could really go all out on these things without causing some sort of damage or breaking something. They probably could handle it but I also planned on upgrading these soon enough anyway so I wanted to keep them nice to resell 'em. As far as which is better chains or direct drive, honestly that really comes down to personal preference. To me they really feel so similar I don't think it matters either way. I feel like its the same argument as which is better: felt beaters or plastic beaters? Neither! One just sounds better to you but neither one will make you a better drummer. I will say I do prefer direct drive but I'm probably extremely biased since I already bought the parts I feel I should put my money to good use... The one thing I will say about direct drive is to me it just kinda feels tighter, if that make any sense at all. I don't know how to explain it any better. I wouldn't recommend the direct drive links for this pedal simply cause I don't think it's worth the money vs. the issues, also you can get a much better pedal for the same price. I would highly recommend the drive shaft for for every single double bass pedal out there, it will help you be more accurate and just feels so much smoother and nicer. Plus it's universal so if you ever upgrade, even a different brand (like I did) it should still work (mine did).

aaaveritt Thanks for such an in-depth response, wasn’t expecting so much insight but it’s very much appreciated. Looks like I’ll pass on this specific upgrade for now, I do fine with chain pedals as is and I still don’t think I can personally justify the cost for genuine direct drive pedals ($1000+ CAD for a decent double bass). I’ve tried direct drive pedals before and they do feel better, but I don’t know if it’s *$1000 better* per se. Thanks again for the detailed response, looking forward to that video you mentioned.

@aaaveritt Thanks a ton for the update. Like I wrote in my response to your video, I really like the feel of chains, but your project provided a lot of food for thought, especially regarding the new connecting rod. My bearing swap really upgraded my pedals in terms of quickness and feel, but the most drastic change was removing the orange cam spacer. I played a dw9000 single for almost a decade and, while I loved the status of owning a pedal like that, it never felt right unless I set the cam to fully eccentric for maximum leverage at the start of a stroke. The Pearls are the exact opposite, albeit with much, much smaller-radiused cams and, for me, feel so much more responsive than the dw ever did. Yamaha has a great video analysis of the adjustment impacts on their new 9C pedals where they detail lever arm vs. rotational angle, footboard travel, and force. It’s enough to make an engineer like me geek out. Thanks again for an excellent video.

You can loosen the top spring mount and change the angle of the beater then you have to reaghust the spring tension

Neither is better and neither will make you a better drummer, they're just slightly different feeling. A chain is just a bunch of tiny direct drive links all connected. They feel so close it would be hard to tell a difference in a blind test. I can play 250bpm heel toe the same on $100 chain pedals as I do on a $1000 direct drive pedals.

You could've highlighted the part numbers and googled them yourself just as quickly. They're not reliably in stock on any website & I don't recommend doing this mod.

$300 ish?

@@chrisgalante7414 how much for the parts and the pedal?

Part numbers are in the description, just google them.

@@aaaveritt I can't find any

@@zedpwner ty hey are available at Drum Factory Direct

You just assume the bearings are not already upgraded like everyone else. You also assume the bearings are different from the demonator and the demon drive pedals, check the part numbers. This isn't an upgrade all the things kind of video, there's a theme. And it's interesting how you recommend a cheaper crappier drive shaft then mention the extremely expensive spring bearing cams... priorities kid. BTW the drive shaft you mentioned is garbage it uses u-joints not ball bearings like the Trick one, huge difference. If you haven't actually used the gear or upgrades don't try to justify an opinion just because you can't afford it, make friends with someone who can, then try their gear, then form an opinion that actually carries weight.

BURN 🔥

Nah, you're good. Belt pedals are awesome.

Waste of money don't do it. Sell your pedals and get better ones. Guitar center used pedals are usually half the price of new. Direct drive will not make you a better drummer, it's a slightly DIFFERENT feel. If someone says if feels better that's a matter of opinion. Even if it feels better it won't make you a better drummer and you just spent $100 to make it feel different when you could of used that money for better pedals.

@@aaaveritt And what about you say in the video?

They probably would but it's definitely not worth the money to do the mod to that pedal, you'd be better off using that money to buy a better pedal. Chains and direct drive feel so similar, and neither will make you a better drummer, but a better built pedal can allow you to play faster more easily with less effort. There's a good reason Trick drums pedals are the go to for super fast double bass players.

It is a beginner pedal & the mod is a waste of money. Return the pedal, buy a used Tama Speed Cobra 910 double for $250. Works just a good as my $800 custom Trick Dominators.

@@aaaveritt I have this Pedal and all I changed was the Beaters and everything else was left as is

Don't waste your money, buy a better pedal.

@@aaaveritt What? Really?

Honestly it's a waste of money. You're better off just buying a better pedal, you'll get more for your money. Direct drive won't make you a better drummer, only practice will.

I've been playing since 91

Did it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKiDh5uem5q7mYk.html iron cobra and speed cobra share the same parts.

@@aaaveritt How much to buy them? (double-pedal)

It'd also be great if I could get a kick back from links but I don't hence why no links. Try googling the part numbers from the description, it's not hard.

@@aaaveritt I already did. The Pearl DRL 300 TSA are available at Drum Factory Direct. I wish they fit my Taye PSK602c😕. I ordered The Trick driveshaft at Sweetwater.com,the Tama beaters are also available at Sweetwater. Thanks for the video!!!

I got mine to feel like a chain drive by putting in power mode and a few other adjustment. It doesn't really mimick the lag but it makes it feel heavier with more power.

Don't do the mod, it's not worth it. Buy a better pedal.

@@aaaveritt really? That work you did is not worthy????

@@aaaveritt and why is not worthy?

Woosh, you hear that? I think something just flew over your head.

@@aaaveritt just pointing it out because your title is slightly misleading. and btw i own a pair of demon drives and majority of experienced drummers will agree that they are worlds apart from chain drives

@@yucksuan I have a demon drive pedal. I swapped the direct link out with a demon chain setup. The difference was very little.

@@TheHarrisal21 what tempos are you playing at? above 200bpm is where you'll start seeing the benefits of direct drives coming into play. there's a reason why almost all death metal drummers use direct drives over chains

@@yucksuan not really. Ive owned single chain,double chain,strap,and gibraltar direct drive,2 axis double pedals,and demon drives. Only major difference is the infinite beater placements and quality of parts/engineering. Pearl dual chain or strap can do anything a direct drive can if you are solid on technique.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKiDh5uem5q7mYk.html

Thank you, this is exactly why it's not worth doing.

Maybe? probably: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btxdf8KLzMiddGg.html

hell yes and with the power shift heal way better than any pedal but i went one step better i used the iron cobra beater holder and i have beater angle and pedal hight adjustment ""note the beater holder must be from the speed pedal

richard vitagliano epic !! Thanks for the replies ! Might try with the speed cobra beater arm.. would be great to adjust beat angle separate to pedal height ! Was thinking to add extra spring to slave pedal too! Should be slick by that point 👌👌👌

That was on purpose. It doesn't fit without major modification to the footboard. It still works just fine so it's not actually "wrong" just changes the angle of the footboard.

Part numbers are clearly shown in the video and in the description

ya ill use my spare reds

@TSZ Yep. You’ll thank yourself for swapping them out. See my comment above.

Dude I own the demon drives and don’t even use the beater because it’s dog shit😂😂 the pearl eliminator quad core beater is the best on the market

I purchased everything for half the price, maybe get better at finding deals...

Well subtle nuances can be overcome with practice, but I totally agree. Nothing like 2 bass drums with 2 single pedals. No compromises, just feels so much better to play.

@@aaaveritt Well I did find your video interesting and informative. I do use the dw 5520 aux pedal hi-hat combo as well as individual double bass drums with Tama pedals.

TL:DR Direct drive or chain does not matter, neither is better, just buy the best pedal you can afford and practice your ass off. I can't edit a video after its posted, but a description can be edited years later which clearly I did here after having plenty of time to evaluate the actual value of these modifications, along with 2 different pedal upgrades. A stock Tama speed cobra or iron cobra with chains (the $500 versions) will blow this modified Pearl pedal away in every possible way you can imagine. They are just better built in every way, period. And I got a mint used Speed Cobra 910 double with case from guitar center's website shipped for $250, the deals are out there. I think a cheaper, better, chain pedal is a wiser choice than a worse, more expensive, direct drive pedal you also have to waste time modifying. Now I can tell from your comment you are like most and after I explain this next part you still won't grasp what I'm saying to you. Ready? DIRECT DRIVE IS NOT BETTER THAN CHAINS, IT WILL NOT MAKE YOU FASTER AND IT WILL NOT MAKE YOU A BETTER DRUMMER IN ANY WAY. (ever notice how a chain is a bunch of tiny direct drives linked together? they serve a small function of the overall pedal as a whole) Harsh, I know. It's nothing more than an old trend in metal that has gained marketing hype that no one is second guessing because no one in metal can afford them in the first place. Personally I've been playing double bass from the beginning for 20 years now. I currently use a $800 custom Trick Drums Dominator low mass direct drive double pedal. You can throw the cheapest $100 pdp chain driven double pedal on my kit and I can play just as fast, I can still play heel toe and kinda swivel, my ability and speed don't change. Ask me how I know, I've literally done it.

@@aaaveritt why do you sound so salty? I asked a simple question. From my own experience, I have a pearl eliminator demon chain link double pedal and my friend has a pearl eliminator demon direct drive single pedal and I can totally notice a difference. The spring tension and everything are basically identical on both pedals.. I can feel way more responsiveness in the direct drive.

@@mulletpower2009 I think what he means is that the extra responsiveness doesn’t increase your ability automatically. You can get fast on any pedal, but no pedal will make you fast. I’ll have to agree with him. I once “upgraded” from a dw 5002 to an axis longboard and totally regretted it.