Denafrips Ares upgrade by Ian Canada

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Gabster

Gabster

6 күн бұрын

Denafrips Ares DAC upgrade using components from Ian Canada. Discover how these enhancements can transform your Dac and take it to the pro level, bringing out the best in your audio setup. We'll cover the installation process, key benefits, and a detailed sound comparison.
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@Roger-lz9ro
@Roger-lz9ro 3 күн бұрын
This s great being able to change clocks on the Denafrips Ares
@BrianS-xg5uq
@BrianS-xg5uq 5 күн бұрын
Brilliant stuff Gabster...now i need an upgrade kit for my pontus II ;)
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
If the Clocks are accessible can not see why not
@bryancox5192
@bryancox5192 3 күн бұрын
I'll second this, I have a Pontus II and am hoping Ian put out a kit for the upgrade.
@michel8166
@michel8166 5 күн бұрын
Once again nice video, I'm really curious about the TDA1541A you are working on, I hear good reports about this type of TDA number DAC, I'm really looking forward to it.
@CollectingRetro
@CollectingRetro 4 күн бұрын
The TDA1541A in a modern circuit is absolutely excellent. I have the MHDT Orchid & Orchid 69SE with upgraded output capacitors. I've been able to compare them to the Bricasti M3 and Audio Note DAC 4.1x Balanced Signature. I've found that I don't like the Audio Note sound and it was a very close race with the M3. I'm very happy to have compared them and realize there is little if anything to be gained by spending way more.
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
Coming soon! It is my favorite dac sound
@LuxAudio389
@LuxAudio389 3 күн бұрын
It's probably economically better to have a local electronics repair shop do the upgrade. Shipping is still expensive, but it's superb that he offers to do it.
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
if you have someone close it is Ideal I doubt Ian has a lot of free time I think he is just doing it to help bear in mind the Ares is very small and light.
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street 5 күн бұрын
I replaced the clocks and power supply in my eversolo dmp-a8 with Ian Canada . Great improvements 🎉
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
Good tip! thanks for letting us know that it is possible with the Dmp-A8
@Pete.across.the.street
@Pete.across.the.street 3 күн бұрын
​@@Gabster1 pretty easy, since the clocks are the same pin out
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 5 күн бұрын
Greetings from Guelph.☕️🌧️ I just sent an email to Denafrips regarding this upgrade..I’ll definitely be sending it out for the upgrade. Thanks for the video!
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
This is a DIY upgrade by IanCanada.ca not Denafrips
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 3 күн бұрын
GM☕️ Ahhhhhh…I had to watch it again… I contacted IanCanada I’m damn interested in this upgrade! Thank You for this information and video!
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 3 күн бұрын
@@Gabster1 on the sound ..you’ve said more sparkle ✨ on the top ..how about the Bass ..a little more energy? I’m seriously considering this upgrade …
@BostonMike68
@BostonMike68 5 күн бұрын
Thanks Gab! I would love to be able to learn some of these diy projects, I have designed my own speakers . The main reason why I go the diy route is because of the money savings. I want good sound quality but I'm unfortunately on a budget and this is an expensive hobby. I could never have speakers like this if I didn't design and build myself.
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 5 күн бұрын
DiY is a amazing path not only you save but you can build things that are hard to buy and the biggest reward is the enjoyment you get doing it and the proud ownership that follows.
@kurt120032002
@kurt120032002 5 күн бұрын
This is interesting, but I would be even more interested in a project about how to take Soekris 2941 system and upgrade it. Sure PSU is not that hard to upgrade, but I would be more interested in how to send an I2S signal in to that board. I think Soekris 2941 is a more interesting project then Ares becasue it is literally 500 Euros with very good performance for the price. I took a look at the layot but does not quite match with Ian Canada's reclock board for I2S.
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 5 күн бұрын
Soekris 2941 is a very interesting project to try, I think the Ares is a great platform to DIY it is good and ready to go we often forget the cost of adding power supplies enclosures etc...
@kurt120032002
@kurt120032002 5 күн бұрын
@@Gabster1 I was not trying to put down Ares, I was just trying to point out that for DIY getting a complete board with very good performance for 500$ is a good proposition and as you said a very interesting project. I would try so see if there are people who can help me identify the proper connections to send the I2S. If I manage that, there is a lot to try with that board, power supply, IC's output stage, "audiophile" grade components to be replaced... receipts to be hidden from the wife.😄
@RumblestripDotNet
@RumblestripDotNet 4 күн бұрын
The question I have is how would this upgrade compare to adding the IRIS DDC to the Ares 12th.
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 4 күн бұрын
I guess no change ..you’re unable to bypass its internal DAC.
@ehickert
@ehickert 5 күн бұрын
Great video Gab! If you are using great clocks in your Ian Canada streamer, do you also need great clocks in the DAC? I believed that the Streamer clock would be the master clock for the DAC. Is this wrong?
@vladiny
@vladiny 4 күн бұрын
I'm interested in this answer also. I would think the DAC clocks overrides the streamer clocks or having sc-pure clocks on both streamer and DAC is best?
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
Most Dacs tend to reclock the stream regardless of origin even I2s a few let you bypass the internal clocks like the Holo Spring 3 The Denafrips Dac do not they reclock.
@vladiny
@vladiny 2 күн бұрын
@@Gabster1 thank you! Then it’s worth it to do the upgrade on denafrips ares DAC.
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 5 күн бұрын
Wow, I like the chart that shows his ratings in which the Ares upgrade sounds as good as a $2200 Holo Spring 3 (+150 shipping) = $2450 (I have both the Ares II 12th and Pontus II 12th-1, Iris 12th) --- source=Apple Music lossless
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
Do you hear a difference between the Ares and Pontus? I have heard a few Pontus dacs and was a bit disappointed by the Pontus but it could be the system and not the dac.
@marcodeangelis4535
@marcodeangelis4535 4 күн бұрын
as always thank you for all your experiments, one question.....I noticed that on 1:25 of your video you powered 3.3v of the hdmi pro and Q7 directly to your UCPURE that's great! i have it too! but I can't understand why J7 jumpers on HDMIpro are short and not open to Takes 3.3V power supply from J3 ? thank you to aswer to my doubt
@jackgraves1006
@jackgraves1006 4 күн бұрын
I'm interested in this as an option for pontus 2
@teknolojigundemi
@teknolojigundemi 5 күн бұрын
Your contents are very good. I recently bought Holo Audio Cyan 2 and need a quality streamer with good psu and clock to match price/performance. Upgrading clocks maybe next step for enchancin sound quality. Streamer must be stable and support both Android-IOS remote app's. Thank you.
@Nightjar726
@Nightjar726 5 күн бұрын
At some point it would be good to see some measurements. I’m not 100% a measurements person, but this is starting to sound like a commercial. Some measurements please to see what diff the clocks make. Cheers and no offense
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
I think Ian did Measure the clocks phase noise Ares/ScPure iancanada.ca/blogs/news/denafrips-ares-12th-ii-r-2r-dac-clock-upgrade
@albertorobinson7611
@albertorobinson7611 3 күн бұрын
thats how is done
@everardwilliams2918
@everardwilliams2918 Күн бұрын
are ians clocks better than those in the terminator or the Gaia?
@d.s.cullom5461
@d.s.cullom5461 4 күн бұрын
Hi Gabbie! Love your channel. I’m not completely knowledgeable about clocks, but I thought I saw a KZfaq video that talked about how the Dac’s internal clocks are used only with USB, all other digital inputs use the clocks in the source. Could you set me straight on this?
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
It Varies most Dacs tend to reclock the stream regardless of origin even I2s a few let you bypass the internal clocks like the Holo Spring 3 this is why this Diy hack works
@d.s.cullom5461
@d.s.cullom5461 3 күн бұрын
@@Gabster1 is there a way to know which dacs do or don't reclock coax etc. by reading the literature or specs.
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
@@d.s.cullom5461 95% do reclock try searching Holo spring bypassing clocks to get a Idea I never had one I can bypass
@wyup
@wyup 7 сағат бұрын
I think all Dacs reclock even those those with external clock sync input, regardless of USB, I2S or SPDIF. To make perfect sense the source stream should be synced with the same master clock aswell to be both in sync and not need to reclock, otherwise you have to resync with the source. That is the problem with dacs, they all use their own clock to decode and sync to the source clock signal, which carries its own jitter that may or may not be corrected. Only CD players use a single clock for dac and data stream.
@new-kids-on-the-block
@new-kids-on-the-block 5 күн бұрын
decoupling caps on the tda1541a ar best on 1.1uf
@tommiranta8817
@tommiranta8817 5 күн бұрын
How would you describe the difference in sound characteristics between the Denafrips and Ian Canada dacs? E.g I’ve seen Denafrips being described as musical, how would you describe the sound of some of the higher end Ian Canada builds you’ve completed on this channel?
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
good clean Power supply and output stage tend to make the ESS Dacs sound as good sometimes better I think The Denafrips sound is not as musical as some say, it is kind of in-between The most musical I have heard is the TDA1541A
@HoomanR17
@HoomanR17 5 күн бұрын
Hi Gabby . Great video. I have the Ares and while this upgrade looks good. I'm thinking of experimenting with a Tube DAC DIY that that I saw on iiWi's channel, a design by Lukasz Fikus (Lampucera) a take on the Lampizator DAC... I know you use tubes and have high efficiency speakers.. do you have any interest in that realm or have any feedback about this particular DIY direction... I ask since cost for parts, its basically the price of an AresII DAC.
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
I heard great things about the Lampucera Dac but never tried one I think it will be far better then the Ares if you do not mind DIY route you can then compare and sell the one you like the least :)
@HoomanR17
@HoomanR17 2 күн бұрын
@@Gabster1 Thanks for your reply. I don't mind the DIY.. It would be cool to see how you would "upgrade" the design for such a kit :)
@matytinman
@matytinman 5 күн бұрын
Talking about very good recordings, today I have uploaded a Direct Disk 24/96 FLAC 0 vinyl rip with DR16. I think it is ideal to verify the audio system quality. 4K / AAC 192kbps. Bill Berry and his Ellington All-Stars - For Duke (1978) Vinyl kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e75inbSn3MfZZ2w.html DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR16 -0.88 dB -21.84 dB 4:26 01-Take the "A" Train DR14 -6.19 dB -26.11 dB 4:22 02-Mood Indigo DR16 -1.95 dB -20.45 dB 2:29 03-Things Ain't What They Used To Be DR16 -2.46 dB -23.01 dB 4:54 04-Perdido DR17 -0.73 dB -22.43 dB 3:25 05-Satin Doll DR13 -2.78 dB -22.27 dB 3:35 06-I Got It Bad (And That Ain_t Good) DR17 -0.32 dB -21.25 dB 4:15 07-I Let A Song Go Out Of My Heart DR16 -2.05 dB -23.00 dB 4:12 08-Cotton Tail -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 8 Official DR value: DR16 - Greetings from Tarragona (SPAIN/EU) -
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852 5 күн бұрын
Hi res is pointless.
@matytinman
@matytinman 5 күн бұрын
@@simonzinc-trumpetharris852 Just now.. Orquestral mass with DR14 Bruckner - 9 Symphonien (1967) Vinyl: Jochum, SODBR: Symphony No 2 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mp57n7VknpjWh2Q.html
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852
@simonzinc-trumpetharris852 5 күн бұрын
Why not go the whole hog and put a Rubidium clock in there?
@iancanada
@iancanada 3 күн бұрын
Rubidium clock doesn't have great phase noise performance because of the PLL. Only good at long term stability. Sound quality will not be benefit from Rubidium clocks.
@gorandjurdjevic4959
@gorandjurdjevic4959 2 күн бұрын
same story with Holo Cayan 2 , connect after Altera fpga and Laiv Dac is .....😂😂😂
@nickolaymiltenov
@nickolaymiltenov 4 күн бұрын
My modest option is that if you can hear a difference only by replacing the clock.....well this DAC is poorly built and not good at all.
@Gabster1
@Gabster1 3 күн бұрын
It is a entry level Dac built to a certain price
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