Der Untergang (Downfall) Extended Scene

Der Untergang (Downfall) Extended Scene - The Final Moment

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2 жыл бұрын

This is an extended scene from "Der Untergang" Extended Edition. In this scene, the German soldiers are surrounded by the Soviets and they are waiting to surrender. General Mohnke and Dr. Schenck insist Traudl and Gerda to go through the Soviet soldiers and escape, as they might have a chance as women. Traudl is willing to go, but Gerda chooses to stay. They say farewell to each other with tears. On the other side, Mohnke and Schenck with other German soldiers are gathered underground. A young SS officer tells Schenck that he wants to join his group. As Soviet troops approach, the German troops begin to surrender. Otto Günsche, who witnesses this, runs back to Mohnke for report. Compared to the theatrical edition, several scenes are added to the extended edition like Traudl and Gerda having a conversation. Also, the insertion order of some scenes has changed.
이 장면은 영화 '몰락' 확장판에 포함된 추가 장면입니다. 이 장면에서, 독일군은 소련군에게 포위되었고, 항복하기 위해 대기하고 있습니다. 몽케 장군과 솅크 박사는 트라우들과 게르다에게 여자로서 기회가 있을 수 있으므로 소련군들을 지나 탈출하라고 설득합니다. 트라우들은 갈 의지가 있지만, 게르다는 남기로 합니다. 그들은 눈물을 흘리며 서로에게 작별 인사를 합니다. 다른 한 편에서는, 몽케와 솅크는 다른 독일 병사들과 함께 지하에 모여있습니다. 젊은 친위대 장교가 솅크에게 그의 무리에 합류하고 싶다고 말합니다. 소련군이 접근해오자, 독일군은 항복하기 시작합니다. 이것을 본 오토 귄셰는 보고하기 위해 몽케에게 달려갑니다. 극장판과 비교할 때, 트라우들과 게르다가 대화하는 장면과 같은 몇 개의 장면이 추가되었습니다. 또한, 몇 개의 장면의 삽입 순서도 달라졌습니다.

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@KORHISTORYARCHIVE 2 жыл бұрын

(Subtitles are available in English and Korean.) (영어와 한국어 자막 사용 가능합니다.) Approximately three million German prisoners of war were captured by the Soviet Union during World War II. German soldiers preferred surrender to Western Allies such as the United States rather than surrender to the Soviet Union. Germans had treated Soviet prisoners brutally, and they knew that if they were captured by the Soviets, they would be treated equally, too. After the war, Western Allies transferred German POWs who had fought on the Eastern Front but surrendered to Western Allies to the Soviets. German POWs were sent to many parts of the Soviet Union, and were forced to labor in post-war reconstruction, often in harsh conditions like Siberia. Due to diseases, starvation and lack of medical care, it is estimated that approximately one million German POWs died in Soviet captivity from 1941 to 1956. When East Germany was established in 1949, many prisoners returned except for those who were considered to have committed war crimes. West Germany also negotiated with the Soviet Union for the return of POWs. The last prisoners returned to Germany in 1956. 제2차 세계대전 중 대략 3백만 명 정도의 독일군 포로가 소련군에게 붙잡혔습니다. 독일군은 소련보다는 미국과 같은 서방 연합군에 항복하는 것을 더 선호했습니다. 독일군은 소련군 포로들을 잔혹하게 대했기 때문에, 만약 그들이 소련군에게 붙잡힌다면 같은 대우를 받을 것이라는 사실을 알고 있었습니다. 전쟁이 끝난 후, 서방 연합군은 동부 전선에서 싸웠지만 서방 연합군에게 항복한 독일군 포로들을 소련군에게 넘겼습니다. 독일군 포로들은 소련의 다양한 곳으로 보내졌고, 시베리아와 같은 가혹한 환경에서 전후 복구를 위한 강제 노동을 하였습니다. 질병, 기아 그리고 의료 관리의 부족으로 대략 백만 명의 독일군 포로가 1941년부터 1956년까지 사망한 것으로 추정됩니다. 1949년 동독이 설립되자, 전쟁 범죄를 저지른 것으로 추정되는 이들을 제외한 많은 포로들이 귀환했습니다. 서독 또한 포로들의 귀환을 위해 소련과 협상했습니다. 마지막 포로들은 1956년에 독일로 귀환했습니다.

@zahgurim7838 2 жыл бұрын

Subtitles: Extended version, Gerda to Traudl: "I can't go any further" when she says it the second time. Mohnke, replying to Traudl's question: "maybe you can get through the ring, you could try. I think, anything is better than waiting here." Gerda: "I'm not going one single step further". SS-officer: "Herr Doctor, Herr Doctor" (again, the formal salutation). "I still feel commited to my oath." instead of "I am committed to my oath". Schenck: "Well, then you better should talk to the Brigadeführer." Traudl, in reply to Gerda: "I have to try it! Please don't be upset with me." instead of "I am going to try it. Please don't get upset with me."

@KORHISTORYARCHIVE 2 жыл бұрын

@@zahgurim7838 I guess the Germans pronounce the Herr very slightly so that I can't hear them. Thanks!

@zahgurim7838 2 жыл бұрын

@@KORHISTORYARCHIVE You're right, there is no phonetic highlighting on the "Herr", it is almost like a breath.

@kevinlynott309 2 ай бұрын

The Allies let the Germans cross their lines to surrender right up until the end. The people they returned were identified war criminals and Russian POWs, most to their deaths.

@mikeprevost8650 Жыл бұрын

In actuality, Gerda did leave with Traudl, in a group led by Mohnke. The 2 of them did reach the Elbe along with a third woman named Else Kruger. Mohnke and the men were captured before they could get out of Berlin. Traudl couldn't reach the east bank of the Elbe, so she walked back to Berlin, arriving in July. Someone recognized her, and she was arrested, but released after a few months. She eventually managed to secure authorization to live in the British sector in early 1946. She finally settled in Bavaria. She died in 2002 at age 81, in Munich.

@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the story!

@DavidBroadley-tw7ks 2 ай бұрын

She shud have been jailed for a few year

@exex9378 Ай бұрын

She knew exactly what was happening but got away with it like many others.

@DavidBroadley-tw7ks Ай бұрын

A happy ending then ffs

@darrelchovanec9150 6 ай бұрын

And get rid of the SS helmet before you walk through them!!

@ge2623 6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't have put on an SS helmet.

@henryalugoro9049 3 ай бұрын

she did change the SS Helmet with a hat when she passed the Russian forces .. its didn’t show in this video ..if you watch the complete video you will see she is wearing a hat instead SS Helmet

@gunterschneider700 3 ай бұрын

exactly !

@pagodebregaeforro2803 2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't have put neither an SS helmet neither a condom.

@jakubmedia8327 28 күн бұрын

looks like a mistake in movie. first thing they would do is hide their SS signs.

@ndmath Жыл бұрын

In this film I couldn't help but respect Mohnke. He gets portraited as one of the most sympathetic nazis in this film: one the generals that actually makes his hand dirty and wants to minimize casualties. According to Wikipedia, in real life he was allegedly involved in the cases of murder of prisoners of war. Never brought to trial over these allegation. There was insufficient evidence.

@KORHISTORYARCHIVE Жыл бұрын

He is a man dedicated to his job. Respect for him.

@mikeprevost8650 Жыл бұрын

So was Sepp Dietrich, who commanded the 6th SS Panzer Army that was responsible for the Malmedy massacre in the Ardennes, although he may have been unaware of it. But Joachim Peiper was personally involved, and escaped hanging or a firing squad after the war. He finally got his due at the hands of a French communist group called the Avengers, who set his house on fire, with him in it, in the 1970s. Why someone with his history decided that living openly in France was a good idea is beyond me.

@Emanresuadeen Жыл бұрын

@@KORHISTORYARCHIVEYeah, genocide.

@LuOeAndre Жыл бұрын

Seguramente fue una asesino contra otros pueblos,pero con el suyo trato de dar todo de sí para que la gente y sus hombres no fueran masacrados

@cxarhomell5867 Жыл бұрын

@@Emanresuadeen He did not commit neither participated in any genocides.

@mariakelly90210 Ай бұрын

FYI, you can now see Downfall (in German with English subtitles) on KZfaq for free.

@user-db8mz6lt6g 2 ай бұрын

The girl has lightning bolts on her helmet... she's an electrician

@timloubser8771 2 ай бұрын

As 'electrifying' as the scene is, the bolts signify an alternate to electrician.

@tomservo5007 2 ай бұрын

she's a KISS fan

@louise_rose 2 ай бұрын

@@tomservo5007 😄😁 Gene Simmons is a Jew, by the way

@larry1824 7 ай бұрын

Actress who played Junge was brilliant

@gabrielarchange4680 3 ай бұрын

I can't think of a better cast.

@yvonneplant9434 3 ай бұрын

@@gabrielarchange4680This film has become classic. The cast is perfect.

@kosmokritikos9299 3 ай бұрын

Indeed. Bruno Ganz was outstanding, but the star that shined brightest in this film was Alexandra Lara.

@mariakelly90210 Ай бұрын

Yes she was very good.

@80iesDude45 Ай бұрын

Alexandra Maria Lara from Bukarest Rumania

@rogersgatty3644 3 ай бұрын

This extended version is the best . More 40 mn .

@alexvisser5913 2 ай бұрын

Maybe ive seen a heavily shortened version of the film but i sense that many of these scenes would fit really well

@Pawcio2115 2 ай бұрын

One of my favourite movies

@uberlpn Күн бұрын

GREAT MOVIE!

@jamesw.t.9591 4 ай бұрын

We're all know . What about to happen if german women walking to red army.😢

@michabarwikowski9145 3 ай бұрын

Well that wa not only GERMAN women. Red Army was raping everything that could be raped in every country they went to. Even Poland. 3 Reich vs USSR was like racist vs rapist and rapist won.

@ggregd 3 ай бұрын

The next scene shows them letting her walk past them. The Red Army and Soviet leadership had cracked down on the atrocities a while before this because they let it go on too long and let it get way out of hand. It was also not the front line Soviet troops who committed most of the crimes, it was the rear echilons.

@AlexGlumoff 2 ай бұрын

@@ggregd Do you really think that Stalin was weak-willed and could not have his way, and the NKVD and SMERSH were nice and kind organizations?

@ggregd 2 ай бұрын

@@AlexGlumoff I stated facts, not quasi-relevant speculation.

@ztp2130 2 ай бұрын

@@ggregd "It was also not the front line Soviet troops who committed most of the crimes, it was the rear echilons." --> That's correct. It's not usually the front line troops that do that sort of stuff. They tend to be crack professionals, relatively speaking, focused on fighting. It's the garbage bringing up the rear, the garrison troops who are on par with prison guards, that terrorize the civilian populations. There are exceptions of course, but they tend to be highly radicalized (e.g., SS taking out reprisals against villages in France during 1944).

@arielg7000 8 ай бұрын

Tradel and Gerda parted, promising to move on, after the war

@avginkel 3 ай бұрын

Traudel was raped by the Russians right after her escape, then let go. She settled in Munich and suffered for her political mistakes committed. Gerda on the other side managed to escape to the Western zone and became quite active in the post-war Nazi scene. That is how life goes.

@ECJ49 5 ай бұрын

At 2:07 what are those soldiers smashing and why?

@timesnewlogan2032 4 ай бұрын

I think they were breaking their rifles, as a show of surrender. By this point, the Germans had a reputation for pretending to surrender before attacking once their enemy got closer; destroying their guns might be a way of showing it's not a bluff.

@gabrielarchange4680 3 ай бұрын

Yeah i always wondered what was up with that.

@pagodebregaeforro2803 2 ай бұрын

They are smashing potatoes

@jakubmedia8327 28 күн бұрын

@@pagodebregaeforro2803 the making of nazi potato puree

@jaimerincezloeil1876 3 ай бұрын

what is this the movie ?

@thirdreich2605 3 ай бұрын

Down fall

@pagodebregaeforro2803 2 ай бұрын

Napoleon

@louise_rose 2 ай бұрын

Independence Day :)

@jaimerincezloeil1876 2 ай бұрын

@@louise_rose and your stupidity, what is it called?😁

@user-oj3fj8rz2e 2 ай бұрын

Hola45❤❤❤❤❤

@redwatch1100 17 күн бұрын

I wonder why they repeated the same scene twice in the movie.

@JANE_ESTER 7 ай бұрын

3:30 😳🙂💭Hhhrr... hr... 😐💭Hurr... 😁 Seu ESPAÇO VITAL... 💀

@stevetaylor8698 2 ай бұрын

At least she had time to do her eye makeup.

@user-oi1fr5ed1l 2 ай бұрын

It's because she hasn't took bath for so long

@israelrodriguez4365 Ай бұрын

The film perfectly reflects the chivalrous and gentle treatment that Russian soldiers dedicate to German women.

@ivantraminiev8470 28 күн бұрын

About the same way the Germans you began kissing ibn the mouth the very same day after thecaîtulation had treated soviet women AND your beloved Gemans had not the excuse of revenge.

@ivantraminiev8470 27 күн бұрын

An american officer wrote: "Russians must be very compassionate and kind people". If Germans had done to us what they did to Russoans we would have exterminated them"

@kb1996 2 ай бұрын

Is there any historical fact that a woman would be wearing that specific SS helmet?? She looks out of place wearing it.

@AquaAyaya 2 ай бұрын

Well, to be honest i don't know much about the topic of female soldiers, this is a field i have never studied. Waffen SS were either 1) SS who transfered to the Waffen SS 2) soldiers from the Wehrmacht who voluntarily transfered to the Waffen SS (note that this was a one-ticket trip as it was impossible for a Waffen SS member to go back to the Wehrmacht) 3) volunteers from civilians (they formed a large part of the Waffen SS divisions, as you may know a good half of the german SS divisions were formed of foreign volunteers, some of them were still fighting in Berlin) Now, does a woman fits in one of these categories? Well, that's unlikely. The next question would be, why wearing an uniform anyway, and that was likely to look like a man, since women were usually raped, whatever were their nationality, their age or their health However, if someone have some ideas, let us know :D I'd like to know as well

@matthijstermeer611 14 күн бұрын

Sure looks good on her, though.

@rodrigohermont5854 3 ай бұрын

Now...3 time....😂

@thewestindianboy 2 ай бұрын

Very well directed movie and all props looks real. I have so many war movies and this one really stand outs. In the end , I started to feel sorry for the common Germans, they were brainwashed.

@AlexGlumoff Ай бұрын

I recommend watching the USSR film "Go and See". It shows the struggle of Soviet partisans against the Wehrmacht, as well as the punitive actions of the SS and SD Einsatzgruppen on the territory of the USSR. This is a short excerpt from this movie kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKmnn9GGna-VhaM.htmlsi=QOo9x6WrVGeVq-ui

@DavidBroadley-tw7ks Ай бұрын

Feel sorry them they robbed all the Jews property stole there houses stole there jobs robbed all Europe while it starved feel sorry for them your having a laugh arnt you

@jakubmedia8327 28 күн бұрын

Dont know what is worse, claiming by you that "common" germans were idiots or that they believed in hitler and their supermacy.

@joshuabarnett1482 28 күн бұрын

The soviets

@ivan5595 Жыл бұрын

Girl has nice helmet

@jean-louislalonde6070 4 ай бұрын

L'arrivée des barbares dans la capitale...

@user-tl8kc8mm6y 3 ай бұрын

А не куй было к варварам приходить без приглашения....

@avginkel 3 ай бұрын

Qui étaient les barbares ici?

@sagaxz96 6 ай бұрын

Alemania.Como un solo pais puede ser tan poderoso que necesitó de 2 potencias mundiales para detener su ataque.

@dirkniedfeld7411 3 ай бұрын

Weder die USA noch Russland war damals eine Weltmacht. Stalin hatte durch die Säuberungen seine Armee komplett zu Grunde gerichtet und die USA hatten nur eine sehr kleine Armee. Erst nach dem zweiten Weltkrieg ist die USA so stark geworden. Vorher waren die Karten im Prinzip zu Gunsten des dritten Reiches gemischt. Sonst hätten sie kaum so viele Länder erobern können. Das Problem war, dass sie einen Zwei-Fronten Krieg geführt haben. Gegen England (die von den USA Nachschub bekommen haben) und Russland (die auch von den USA mit Öl, Waffen, Stiefeln, etc. beliefert wurden) . Das hat schon im ersten Weltkrieg nicht funktioniert. Und der Armleuchter macht den selben Fehler nochmal.

@avginkel 3 ай бұрын

Ahora solamente necesita el toque de la presidente del banco central ruso, Nabibulina, y los errores estupidos de tanto los propios politicos, como los de los estacionados en Bruselas en la Comision Europea, una banda de eurocratas incapaces, para echarla al piso. Alemania, eso fue alguna vez.

@user-db8mz6lt6g 2 ай бұрын

one power defeated Germany. USA appeared at the end of the war

@dirkniedfeld7411 2 ай бұрын

@@user-db8mz6lt6g Yes, the power of Adolf Hitler defeated himself. He declared war at the USA and after this the 3rd reich lost the war.

@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 Ай бұрын

@@user-db8mz6lt6gno it didn’t it joined in 1941

@jessebradley1123 2 ай бұрын

Kind of really hard to feel sorry for nazis 😅

@Alex-0310 3 ай бұрын

The "world" did not learn Hitler's lesson - that's why Putin grew up

@gabrielarchange4680 3 ай бұрын

Defaulting to projecting last century's villain on your current adversaries is so cheap and childish. Especially when you're aware the other side is projecting the same on you.

@buak809 3 ай бұрын

Putin? Why is he copared to Hitler not Stalin? He's direct successor of commuist soviet state ruled by people like Stalin, Khruschtchev, Brezhnev, they all were evil but the first one the most. Much more people died from commnuist rule than nazi/fascist and they were even more evil.

@qp9vp 3 ай бұрын

@@gabrielarchange4680 Nothing NATO has done the last 50 years comes near to what Putin and his regime is doing in Ukraine, Syria and Africa. Putin is the heir of Stalin and Hitler. Evil.

@sweetballs4742 3 ай бұрын

@@gabrielarchange4680lol, no. His adversaries "projecting" ain't even existing to begin with. Other side is projecting your ass

@waynereid9471 3 ай бұрын

@@gabrielarchange4680 good point - could be talking about Trump - I doubt Putin has the same cult like worship that Trump enjoys

@DavidBroadley-tw7ks 2 ай бұрын

How that secatary got away scot free after the war escapes me she shud have got at least life in prison

@louise_rose 2 ай бұрын

Why? She personally was just a staff assistant. Sure she was a believing Nazi at the time, but that in itself doesn't merit life in prison.

@DavidBroadley-tw7ks 2 ай бұрын

@louise_rose what are u showing us your back for have u got a swastika on the front off your top

@cyrilbellamy7381 Ай бұрын

@@louise_rose si ça le mérite !!

@user-xv5hw3co6r 4 ай бұрын

ドイツに勝利あれ！

@kjererrt7804 2 ай бұрын

did you enjoy hiroshima and nagasaki kid?

@juanandresdiaz6422 Жыл бұрын

The Russian army…let conquer Berlin once again!

@idontknow2rhhfhf 11 ай бұрын

I bet this guy doesn't even know where Berlin is so

@juanandresdiaz6422 11 ай бұрын

@@idontknow2rhhfhf I ve been to Berlin 5 times n used to live in Germany

@nickkerr3902 7 ай бұрын

@@juanandresdiaz6422they can’t even get past Ukraine lmao

@hannahdyson7129 6 ай бұрын

With your attuide there won't be any Russians under 60 left . That goes for both sexes

@mrobocop1666 6 ай бұрын

@@nickkerr3902 all Russia's successful wars started the same: shamefully poor, but then they steamed up to stratosphere. (They took Berlin 3 times in history, why not 4th time now? Especially, with moral, social, economic and military degradation of European societies. Like, according to WESTERN media, Russia alone produce 7x more artillery ammunition than entire NATO countries COMBINED

@user-lo3iy1fs7b 6 ай бұрын

그리고 국경선에 탔을 때 러시아 영해에서 한국 유다를 잡았습니다. 괴물들이 원하는 것이 무엇입니까?

@easterlinear 3 ай бұрын

No thanks, I’ll take the spaghetti

@mariakelly90210 Ай бұрын

Excuse me, but I think that your Universal Translator is broken.

@ReptileRescue 9 сағат бұрын

I always thought the chick playing Gerda in this movie was hot. Not in the most conventional way, but still sexy in a girl next door way. She looks very much like a German girl I knew named Gisela.