who charge you 20k ? the dealership or the used vehicles' owner?

Haha canada you pay way more than 20k

no, it was where you spent your money that changed. No winter vacation. No summer vacation. Less eating out. WE spent that money on houses, Amazon, cars and toys

I believe a little bit of both of these comments are correct. Either way we can all agree that we come to the same conclusion, Prices of stuff right now is just too high. Hopefully it will get better before a complete market crash.

You’re completely correct, I haven’t forgotten about that at all 💯! -Garrett

Probably the best comment I've seen on KZfaq in a long time. The prices, interest, and spending is getting ridiculous.

Yep ! You nailed it , totally agree with your analysis

I was at our localKawasaki dealer the other day. They had 8 KRX two seaters sitting on the floor. They definitely aren’t moving like they used to. They also had dozens of high dollar KTM, GAS GAS and Husky dirt bikes sitting there unsold. Six months ago if they had bikes in that shop they all had sold tags on them. Two of those were sold.

Yupp I work at a used car dealer up here in northern Canada I’ve noticed it bigggg time the slow down is here 2023 will be a buyers market. We had a hellcat that we had to mark down 40k and it’s still sitting mine you they had 30k mark up on it. That’s the name of the game 🤷🏼‍♂️

Aren't the interest rates for what the bank thinks are labeled "toys" always around 7-9%? The Polaris Synchrony financing rates are around 7.99%

Used to be easy to get 3-4%

Says you.

@@magana7miguel7 I don't have an issue with financing short term, the problem is compounding all that interest over "seven" years is financially irresponsible unless the interest rare is near 0%.

@@franksinapi2121 yea everything comes with a price u want a finance then that's what u get everyone is free to do what ever they want with there money and if u have the money to paid cash good for u am sure if u own a new house u did not paid it cash it come with a apr

@@magana7miguel7 found the guy who finances everything

Guys like frank have got to be the most annoying humans on face of earth

Im not paying cash for a 33k toy I’ll pay my 4k in interest 😂

Agreed

Still really no inventory here in Alabama that I'm seeing.

@@matthewcalvert3538 just give it some time it’s coming.

RMATVMC has 32 KRX 1000 4 seat on order. I put money down on one. 6 months 0%, then I’m paying it off. If it ever comes in. I don’t want to ride it out as you say.

True or not owning toys at all.

Yep, got a 2 seater quad June 2021 @ 3.99 36mo.

How long ago was that?

@@DerangedOffRoad About a month ago

Ya this bullshit high frieght/pdi, commodity fee(what the hell is that) and admin fees, all just padding dealers pockets. Can’t wait for market to crash. Remember the dealers that tried to charge the most fees and stay away from them and tell all your friends to do the same

It’s already starting to. A lot has changed from four months ago when we put this vid out.

Great price!

@@DerangedOffRoad next time we are down in sand hollow we’ll look for you guys. My in laws live in Dixie Springs so we are right there close. If I could afford to keep the 2 and 4 seater I’d just leave a KRX down there

@@bryan876 sounds good, just send us a PM on Facebook 👍

I got my 2020 with 30 miles on it for $16k with the roof on it. Just had to ship it from West Virginia to Arizona.

Damn you got shafted lmfao 🤣🤣

They’re holding onto hope is all. They know as well a big change is coming.

I believe that’s the right move. -Garrett

now 7 months past, how things changed?

@@gavinfrancis8198 As some one looking for one now. Nope things are the same.

You make a very good point. Not only the cost of these items but also the upkeep. -Garrett

@@Built05STI I was lucky, I sold DURING Covid and made out like a bandit. I've always had multiple interests so for me it wasn't too hard to sell and make a ton of cash knowing damn well I'd end up completing the circle and going right back to it with a new machine, new build, etc etc... Now the key for me and what my old man always taught me was "Always own your toys outright, their is nothing worse than having a payment sit in your garage broken". The way we play so hard it really does make sense and although it took me 3+ years to buy/sell/trade/flip my way up to what I wanted it was even that much more gratifying when I got those stacks in 2021. :)

@@DerangedOffRoad Upkeep...spent 3 days last week replacing steering rack, rebuilding front diff, bearings, ball joints. It's getting old, but still love it. We recently bought property in WV and leave our RZR's there. You can buy really cheap there (our 3br, 2ba house is less than a toy hauler). I'll be in the market for a 4 seater in the spring...hoping for a market "correction"

I don't understand why so many people think they have to have new machines with a new toy hauler and truck just to go riding. Either credit was extremely cheap for them or they just didn't really calculate and understand how much money they are/were committing

A Jeep is still more than double a Honda Pioneer 1000. I just sold my 08 Wrangler for more than half what I paid to buy a 22 Pioneer. Both are Awesome machines

They aren’t coming down

Im one of those people.. new 2021.zforce 950 out the door under 15K...the new models are a little higher price now but with even better options (way better than 2021 model)...Mine has been a decent machine tho not as good as the major players...but it gets me out and playing and having fun for a reasonable price! I wanted a polaris but it was 5k more with less accessories when I bought...the savings afforded me the extra monies to equip my machine with the needed accessories and still have some money left over. I wish my budget could have been higher but it wasnt....

As dealers get more inventory stacked up we’ll see the factory incentives start to appear.

Yeah the inventory with all toys has been climbing on KSL. -Garrett

Wow!! I bought in May 3.2% intrest. On top of that my KRX which I love was much cheaper. $$$$$$ in the bank. Now keep in mind these machines are just big boy toys!

@@gm780 what bank gave you 3.2%? Did you put any money down? Sheffield gave me 8% 72 months

@@seemsfishy4289 Yeah, I wasn't too happy with the interest rate I got even with my high credit score. I put $7000 down on the pro XP, and I put $4500 down on the Can-Am a couple weeks ago.

@@gm780 I liked my KRX, but it felt big and heavy and cumbersome, the pro XP2 seat is very powerful and nimble which I like a lot better. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iL9noqydsdSbg2w.html

@@patd4u2 I agree it's a tank. All the parts are very beefy. I'm no expert on side by sides by no means. But when I look at and compare some of the same components on other machines the krx has the extra beef.

It's dried up to a stream, can walk across what used to be vicious mighty waterway

But a country boy can survive!

Wow funny you say that because I heard they can’t move grains because it’s too shallow 🤷🏻‍♂️

Cool more riverbed to ride

Unfortunately this area is ranked the fastest growing metro area in the USA.

@@DerangedOffRoad Not good...we live in an area of Washington that has exploded and it SUCKS!!!!! More taxes, more people, more cars, more bullshit! And St George and area is such a cool place....condolences...

I noticed the same!

Completely agree!

You are sage.

That totally sucks!!

I totally get why you would decide to sell…but when there is blood in the water, the sharks will want to feed. As I was adding mods to my buggy, there came a time when I had to consider if it was work making the modification; knowing that I had already invest to much into a vehicle. I knew the. That I had already invested too much into my buggy, and there was no way I would get even a fraction…of my total investment…back out. For me I had to have a very honest conversation (when nobody was watching) about the reasons I was adding the modifications. There were basically 2 reasons for every modification. The first reason dated back to my old Harley days, and there was, and is, a deep desire to individualize “my” buggy. I wanted certain modifications done because nobody else had them…or very few people had them. As I look back, they all served a real purpose, but they also made my buggy standout. The second reason revolved around the idea that I’m a partial paraplegic, and most of the time I’m raging in the desert…I’m alone. I approached this “honest” assessment of myself not because I see myself as a victim…I don’t…but I recognize and acknowledge the dangers and challenges I could face alone. So, as an example, I always have multiple sources of communication in my buggy; Cell phone; citizen band radio; hand held aviation radio; and a permanently mounted aviation radio, which is to be mounted in the future. The last two radios allow me to talk to pilots at 15,000 feet…on Tucson Approach, should the worst happen. I recognize that everyone does not need the same number of communication options…my lifestyle…my options. All of that crap has led me to respond to your comment about deciding to sell your UTV. I have already made a conscious decision that if I decided to sell…I would accept a fair price, but I will “never” give away my buggy; allowing someone else to reap the benefits of my efforts and or decisions. In fact, I would take nothing, and have my buggy crushed before I would agree a lopsided sale. Moreover, I’m more likely to give it away, and rob a dealership of a potential sale, before I was financially raped while trading my buggy. So, I understand your decisions; we are just approaching that question from different sides. Your thoughts…

Sorry for the typos

That’s really the way many people should go. Instead they’re paying $3k-$4k a year just to ride it 3-4 times a year. Add insurance to that and it’s a very expensive hobby

I guess my question is, you might have msrp go up but I feel like more incentives will be giving off msrp if units aren’t moving. -Garrett

MSRP is going up cause the value of the dollar is going down. Buy bitcoin.

Exactly, very well said 👍-Garrett

You're going to take a loss on a sxs no matter when you buy it.

Looked at a Pro R today. A guy was in there talking to the owner, they both know one of the engineers that worked on the Pro R and he straight said it cost Polaris $13,000 to build a Pro R Ultimate. So yes do the math. 400% mark up.

That’s crazy if that’s the true number.

It’s all Sand Hollow.

Couldn’t agree more

Yes correct, but here in Utah we see a few dealers already having more machines on the lot but they could be the turbo model. -Garrett

So why watch youtube videos about them?

It did drive up the used sales market but as new machines stock pile at dealers the used market will crash and the new market will be discounted.

Yes new units will be discounted but discounted from a higher starting price. I don’t. Believe you will get a same model razor or defender whatever model apples to apples for the same price point you did 3 years ago especially new. So add a higher price point and higher interest and where does that leave you ? That’s the wildcard …. Next years dealer price point with manufacturing.

I'm single, my kids are grown, I don't see how a man with a family can afford a house, car, turck ( I know you have both) a side by side, food and gas!! Being retired, eating only once a day is how I afford it! Yes I'm loosing weight too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hehehe

@@gm780 I agree The prices have gotten so crazy I don’t know how these guys are able to afford these machines. I work full-time in healthcare and make pretty good money and Have a small remodeling business I do on the side and make a few extra bucks and still think it would’ve tough making they extra payment plus insurance every month. I’m single and have a daughter…. So more power to everyone is making it happen out there somehow

@@HomeGrownPyro1 lots of these guys refinanced their homes and pulled equity to buy their toys.

@@HomeGrownPyro1 they can't afford it. Average Americans live super outside their means, and it's about to cost them everything short of their souls.

The only reason they offered you that is because they are overstocked with 2022 223's are coming out and the twenty two's have already depreciated about 2500 and haven't even left the lot yet! It's the same deal with vehicles I can't believe these big companies think we are that stupid

But on the kick side my 22 pol 850 xcr was 17,800 with $2500 in accessories and maybe I can ride that 6 weeks out of the year.

I believe we’re seeing a little bit different senecio’s play out in different states. It will all catch up soon though everywhere. 👍 -Garrett