Hmmmmm they editted out so much key info! Like Snake and Otacon's epic handshake and bro hug

It just feels wrong that Raiden doesn't settle his score with Solidus here. After all that rage-filled struggle, he just gets knocked out, and Snake swoops in with unexplained blade prowess and casually stabs Solidus with a one-liner. Just wrong.

The parts where they replace Raiden with Snake is weird and just feels like pandering to people who were upset about Raiden but goddamn the stuff between Ocelot and Liquid and Liquid revealing the Sorrow to Ocelot is so good (though Liquid respond with Snake asking "BUT HOW" with "SURGICAL ARM GRAFT OF COURSE!" like that's an actual explanation is fucking hilarious. Like somehow it's even more absurd than "BUT I LIVE ON THROUGH THIS ARM!")

Man, I think this really cleared up a lot of the pacing, but having Snake take some of Raiden's moments away is kinda dumb. Snake killing Solidus is just gratuitous fanboyism that keeps Raiden from getting closure. Is Snake so fond of patricide that he has to kill other people's dads for them?

About time Fatman got some proper screen time.

that line always gives me chills..... "about a 100 years ago"

2:50:52 Solid Snake: "I'd rather be a mistake... than be the one who makes them" strong words from the legendary mercenary

People are saying they prefer Raiden's VA in this more than in the game, but I think his whiny voice suits him a little more (especially for the first parts of the game) In contrast to Snake, he genuinely acted and spoke like a green bean on his first field mission who was pissed things weren't going his way, that his girlfriend was constantly bothering him about "DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT TOMORROW IS JACK??!!" and that his commanding officer was obviously keeping serious intel from him when it could have him killed. Also sad they didn't include the deathly embarrassing moments where Raiden just points his gun at everyone and Snake tells him to chill the fuck out.

I don't like Snake beating Solidus instead of Raiden. But DAMN, the idea of the last codec call being a kind of dream sequence sounds really cool, at least in a non interactive medium. I wish they could show the entire conversation like this, though it may be to much.

I admit, both graphic novels (referring to MGS1 and 2) are completely different from the games, but I also think they're pretty good. The reason I think they're good is because I see them as digital graphic novels, not adaptations of the Metal Gear canon.

am i the only one here who loved Raiden in the mgs2 game? :c

I'm sorry, but replacing Raiden with Snake in so many scenes is dumb fanservice and defeats the entire purpose of MGS2's actual story.

I think David Hayter did much better on the voice in this comic than the first comic...also Snake is Batman. It was cool seeing the Ocelot/Liquid conversations and the Sorrow was a nice touch too. I think overall it was "Okay"; story changes still kind of irk me, but it's not so bad if you think of this as its OWN series. I just hope people don't watch these thinking they're the official stories.

Oh cool, Raiden's suit is known as the Skull Suit. *Plays MGSV* ................Holy continuity, Batman

Oh my go those Star Wars references during the Harrier fight... xD

1:51:55 Alright that was handled in such a badass way. They gave both characters a purpose. I always found it EXTREMELY unsettling how you can call Snake when Vamp is holding Emma hostage and he says and does literally nothing.

The solidus call to raiden at the beginning just gave away toomuch scare

What the? Snake killing Solidus is bullshit! Why did they do that? And you were doing so well Graphic Novel! I wasn't even minding that I could barely tell one person apart from another

i like how raiden does have his older gruff voice he has in mgr

1:20:35 For those of you who doesn't know, the voice of Colonel Sergei Gurlukovich is Earl Boen who played the role of Dr. Peter Silberman in The Terminator series along with The former Governor of California, WWE Hall of Famer, the 7-time Mr. Olympia, 4-time Mr. Universe and Hollywood legend Arnold Schwarzenegger

My only problem with this is the fact that not only does Snake kill Solidus, denying Raiden his closure, but he also went against his own character; Snake's not a big fan of blades, so why does he use one here?

Damn Stillman's death here was even more tragic.

This is pretty much if Hollywood made this a movie

There's something I actually really love about the fact that this exists and that's that as an interpretation of the events of mgs2 this still works, think about comic book movies, if they just 1:1 scale copied shit from the comics there would be no point to their existence, this comic works as a good retelling of the mgs2 story Furthermore, there's actually good reasons why this could actually be a true canonical telling of the story when you consider that one of the largest themes in mgs2 is about "reality" what we played in mgs2 might not be accurate at all, for all we know we played a nameless foxhound soldier playing a simulation of the simulation that raiden went through. Simulation inception. No matter how you tell the story of mgs2 it's still always canon and yet not canon at the same time and that's fucking beautiful. Maybe raiden killed solidus, maybe he didn't, maybe he was a whiny little bitch, maybe he was a badass, who the fuck knows or cares? It's a Schrödinger's cat, in the sense that any outcome is both true and false simultaneously.

Wow... Raiden is really awesome in this verson of MGS2.

I just LOVE how Fatman talks and sounds like Jim Sterling.

Ok, this is gonna be a hot take As someone who loves MGS2 game to death, my opinion with this graphic novel is a bit mixed. In one hand, i do appreciate some of the changes like Solid Snake having more screentime which is always appreciated since Snake is my favourite character in the series and David Hayter will always be Snake to me and perfectly nails that performance, not mention having one of the best lines of all MGS "Fine with me. I'd rather be a mistake than be the one that causes them. Also i do love some of the changes like Colonel complaining about Raiden and Stillman not doing their roles from the games was kinda funny and clever. I also like that Stillman and Fatman had lot more interaction with each other and we finally got to see what happened between Snake and Olga. Also, the bit with Ocelot hallucinating about Liquid and Sorrow was pretty good, although bit tacked on. Voice acting in general is top notch. Changes that i was bit mixed upon was the scenes where Snake basically replaces Raiden's scenes, although i kinda like Snake vs. Vamp fight, even though Raiden and Vamp are more sworn enemies from the games. Although i appreciate them giving Snake more to do than in the game, it was sadly at expense on Raiden's character. Also Rose is not nearly as enough in this novel, but i can sort of understand that because people find her annoying in the game. Oh, speaking of the changes i didn't like was removal of Otacon and Emma's dark family history and Emma barely having a character to her than she had in the game. And when she died in the novel, i just kept shrugging my shoulders because i barely knew this character. Granted, Emma wasn't super deep character in the game version, but at least there we learned about her family history, the trauma of almost drowning and her interaction with Raiden and her Otacon. Even though she said she hated him for abandoning him, she still missed him deep down after all these years. It's quite sad. Look, i'm not expecting 1:1 copy of the original game, but i expected the changes improve upon the narrative than being inferior to the ones in the game. Another change i didn't really like Raiden's character and him being nerfed in the graphic novel. Raiden seems bit too aggressive to me compared to how he was in the games. I kinda liked Raiden being bit of a dork, but with darker side in MGS2. One of the reasons why i like Cloud from original Final Fantasy 7. People call out Raiden being a whiny bitch from MGS2, but i don't think its warranted. For the most of the time it was justified, when he was constantly kept out of loop and having literal identity crisis and seeing all crazy shit. It also annoys me how Raiden felt kinda nerfed during this novel. Sure, Raiden is not legend like Snake, but he can handle on his own. He is not mere rookie as he spent his childhood as a child soldier and had impressive kill count. And lastly, i hate the change of Snake killing Solidus instead of Raiden. As some have said, it feels like fanboyism and pandering at worst even if i love Snake's character, but Snake hardly had any interactions or encounters with Solidus, so it feels really forced to have Snake have final duel with Solidus. Solidus's defeat by Raiden had much more meaning and they both share dark history. Overall this wasn't great, but somewhat decent Graphic Novel. I still think MGS1 novel was bit better in comparison.

R.I.P. Metal Gear Solid. It died along with KONAMI

So Liquid really did possess Ocelot in MGS2. Glad we've cleared that up.

Little did solidus know, jack would actually become a metal gear killing ninja who doesn't even use stealth

raiden and stillman in a stoner buddy comedy, with similar shit happening. written by seth rogen

12:05 is a reference to Policenauts. The news music is directly from the 3DO remastered version, which was re-used in the PS1 version as well. Karen Hojo is a prominent character in the game, and brings everything full circle; as Meryl originally was part of the Vice Unit on Beyond Coast where Policenauts takes place. Kojima liked her and made her part of the Fox Unit.

I love how ocelot Laughs when everything gets serious. Man really played everyone.

This is really GOOD! It gives another alternate take to the game, and explains certain cut scenes that seemed to make 0 sense at all (Solidus choke sequence).

I don't remember raiden being this ugly I don't really remember Fortune being sometimes white, sometimes black and sometimes even asian! Also making Raiden a badass and making snake kill Solidus completely misses the point of MGS2 But yeah, fanservice

I'm sad Fatman is not saying "Laugh and grow fat" before dying.

The bad guy was actually the good guy. Damn the patriots :o

"An anti-metal gear metal gear!" Fucking wat?

I already knew of the MG universe and played MGS3 Snake Eater, but this makes me want to go play through every pixel of every MG game and read through every wiki and article about the universe. This was AWESOME!

We CAN, because we have no other choice

If this is any hint as to what we will see for the cinematic adaptations, I'm in, baby. I'm all in. After watching MGS 1 and 2 Graphic Novels, I am convinced that these can these stories can be cut to 2-3 hours and make excellent films, on par with The Dark Knight, Captain America 2, and other blockbuster comic book titles. It may not make as much money, but it will probably make Matrix money. My hope is they base the MGS film on the previous digital graphic novel, and the second on this graphic novel, perhaps pacing the story a bit more and splitting it into two parts. The film series would conclude Solid Snake's story with the third film, Guns of the Patriots This could allow for the actor, after four films, to then transfer the lead to another actor to play Big Boss. Big Boss would then continue the film series with another trilogy, Snake Eater and Phantom Limbs (2 parts). It would have the familiar scent of Marvel.

Damn, I really liked a lot of how they did the first game, but they went and made just about every bad decision possible when adapting this one.

30:10 that is one respectable navy seal

"You ruined my life!" A true father and son moment.

I don't get why people are complaining about this, in my opinion this is basically just the same story but told differently, an interpretation. Would we really watch this if we already played MGS 2 and know what was going to happen? They made it different so we would watch it and see the difference

The MGS2 video game is still the definitive version of this story, for many reasons, but its dialogue is incredibly long-winded and meandering. I think the Digital Graphic Novel made a valiant effort at making the dialogue more concise and to-the-point.

Even though it’s a bit different from the actual game, i wish Raider could have gotten his revenge on Solidus. I still enjoyed it. This was well written.

Not to criticise, but David Hayter's voice does sound a bit different in the comic novel version here, from the original video game. Still, excellent story. Raiden sounds a little bit different, too. A little. The one thing I preferred about THIS version over the original is where Snake says at the end, "I'd rather be a mistake, than be the one who makes them." Hey, not for nothing, I wonder how one gets into voice acting. THESE voice actors did a great job, I thought. And I hear it's a great job to have, but that it's not as easy to achieve as it sounds. A part of me always wanted to do voice acting because of the video game from 2001.

1:40:45 Wait a minute, this isn't right. They really took some liberties by adding Snake into scenarios he wasn't originally in.

2:50:20 "No more child abuse. Time to deal with a grown-up for a change." Fuuuuck, that's a good line. I am so glad that they gave Snake a bigger role in this. MGS2 was a great game, but I think it would have worked better if you played as Raiden and Snake throughout the game.

honestly this comic is pretty good.... up until Snake kill Solidus instead of Raiden that was Bullshit and I have no idea why they changed it. like others said it feels pandering because people didn't like that Snake was sidelined in this game, even to the point where they outright replace some of Raiden's moments for Snake

Why is Fortune white lmao

This was an awesome audiobook. For me it's great to see snake have more screen time in the story of MGS2.

Loved the intensity of 1:08:43-1:11:23

I personally like this alot! The game is literally my favorite of all time so the stuff they added in pissed me off. Expect for Fat mans character being fleshed out

That moment Hiimdaisy's silly web-comic parody is more accurate to the game than the official graphic novel

Why does Raiden sound so more badass in this?

The art style was okay for me, but damn, the script. I'd have preferred an exact adaptation, so that even one that has not played the game can understand what is going on. Completely skipping Olga's intro/fight was an immediate red flag to me that liberties were taken with this, and I usually hate it when that happens. Pacing seems to be an issue too. Cutting a rant short, if the story is going to be different, don't call it Metal Gear Solid 2 Digital Graphic Novel. Give it it's own name so people will know there are differences between this and the actual game script.

Regardless of Kiefer Sutherland's commendable performance as Big Boss, there is, and only will be, ONE true Snake (Solid Snake and Big Boss, specifically): DAVID HAYTER!

This is exactly approach the MGS movie should take; keeping the key story points but reshaping the narrative to make it more cinematic. The execution here isn't as good as it could be but it shows how good the movie could be...

This had it's cool moments that would've made the original game better. But others should've been left in that didn't mess with the continuity for fan service.

I like it especially the alternate cutscenes and dialogs

God this is terrible lol. They changed the plot for the worse, just so Raiden haters can get their David Hayter fix lmao. LITERALLY the only one new scene that was a good was Ocelot/Liquid/Sorrow. But since MGS4 made that part noncanon, this entire graphics novel is WORTHLESS LOL!!

I've wondered if the original plan for MGS4 was to have Liquid really possess Ocelot. This video offers proof to that since nowhere in the games does the old cowboy know about his parentage but I can easily see Liquid knowing about them.

I'd really love to see a Snake Eater and Guns of the Patriots version of this.

Too bad there is no comic version of MGS3 & MGS4

44:10 Why doesn't the M9 shoot that fast lol

I love the voice acting, really sounds improved. But I think Hayter Snake really regressed. I think his best work was MGS1 and 2. The raspier he got, the worse he got. Real bummer.

32:59 Raiden " Wait, I here something......oh no the jazz music! It only means one thing."

1:40:53 “Take a look-see” even snakes minor drive by one liners are gold

i dont get the comment of "if they didnt change the story, why would they even make it?", when the very obvious answer is that a new medium could bring new depth to the characters, simplify cutscene dialogue, flesh out story beats none of that requires transforming raiden and then just tossing him aside in favor of snake anyways, mgs2 is a perfectly fine story that deserves a better adaptation

“Ocelot, I’d like you to kill a hostage, please.” How presidential...

I like how it's the original voice actors in this visual novel

Awesome! Who else felt Rising Raiden in this? Hell of a lot cooler I'd say.

I love that voice actors got use new dialogue.. It becomes its own animal..

Oh man they done ruined the ending. That line is so bad. Also why does the colonel have a normal voice? In the game his acting was perfect, it was "bad" but his sterile voice matched perfectly with the reveal.

I like the different prospective plus during the Raiden vs Fatman fight we see a little ripper come out

2:51:24 Patriot AI call

*The Hudson River, two years ago.*

Unpopular opinion. I like more how the plot is played out in novels more than in games. It's just the second attempt to the story which now seems to be more thoughtfully and carefully made. The plot make more sense and seems more... solid. Makes everything to be whole, one story. I know Kojima likes to complicate things in games but sometimes they're just more enjoyable when the info is clear and direct.

I actually listened to this in the office like an audiobook while I worked. Made my afternoon fly by.

1:58:44 that’s sweet of solidus giving raiden a knife to kill people for his birthday

I much preferred the way the story of Sons of Liberty was told in this graphic novel than how it was told through the game and the lengthy cutscenes. However, the lengthy cutscenes in the game were only good in the scenes where Raiden speaks to Richard Ames, and later when he speaks to President Johnson and to Emma Emmerich, as between the three of them, their lengthy conversations in the game give greater detail to the real agenda of the Sons of Liberty group, the existence of the Patriots and how they work as a shadowy cabal and how the Arsenal Gear G.W. Artificial Intelligence system was created and what it does etc. Aside from those moments, the graphic novel delivered the story perfectly. In certain parts, replacing Raiden with Solid Snake worked well, although in other parts this seemed to have been done a bit excessively, and yes, I think this was just pandering to people (such as myself) who were pissed off with the existence of Raiden in the first place. If Raiden had sounded a little less like a whiny little bitch-boy and more like a young soldier trying to follow in the footsteps of his hero, then I probably would have enjoyed the character more. The only thing I liked was that you got to see another side to Solid Snake while playing as a different character fighting alongside Snake. I also have the Raymond Benson novels of Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2. Metal Gear Solid was great but at times it seemed like Snake forgot that he was a tactical espionage agent and not Rambo - at certain points he seemed to gun down everything in sight. Metal Gear Solid 2 novel literally followed the game transcript word for word. As a fan of the Metal Gear Solid series for over twenty years, I would love digital graphic novel versions of the entire series and would have loved Raymond Benson to write novels for the entire series, not just Solid and Solid 2. I really want a proper telling of the stories of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 where Snake defeats Outer Heaven and ZanzibarLand. Have been working on fan-fiction novels for both, with them both retconned with stuff revealed in MGSV. And in my fan-fiction, ZanzibarLand is in fact set in the same region where Metal Gear Solid 3 took place and geographically I have placed this region as Kyrgyzstan. Geographically I placed Outer Heaven in Lesotho, a landlocked nation in South Africa.

19:11 This line would've fit a lot better if Raiden wasn't so ugly in this version

I like how this addresses story not seen in the game. Patriots telling Fatman to attack Raiden, Snake seeing Olga etc. It may take a different spin in some parts, but it elaborates on parts of the original story too. Johnson inputting the code, relating to Solidus about the Patriots control of them as president. Good stuff. Although it doesnt pack any of the quality or emotion the original scenes in the game have.

Where was THIS Raiden in the game?

lol i love how "The End" in the last bit is in green

Don't get me wrong, the artist is talented. I just wish it had higher quality animation. It doesn't have to be fully animated but there are times I can hardly tell what's going on. Main thing saving it is that I know the original game inside and out.

These graphic novels aren't all that bad. It's just the fact they've been altered at times that makes it less likeable and unoriginal compared to the actual games. The Raiden shown in this though is better than the one we play as in MGS2.

While it's debatable whether Raiden got nerfed so bad in this or not. It also make sense in that Raiden is just a rookie, at least compare to many hardened veterans like Snake, Solidus or Ocelot. (Raiden in the game is so strong because of us, the player, just like how we made certain medic to rival Big Boss in reputation and skill) I do admit that I want Raiden to fights Vamp, they are damn arch-nemesis so they deserve their moment of awesome. And if I remembered correctly, Snake didn't do very well with sword or blade. I prefer that Solidus charged at Snake, trying to cut him down, only to be countered last second by well placed bullet in the lung or head.

I love the police sirens when solidus is monologuing. All that stuff had to be cut from the game, but even that little bit is great. Kojima accidentally predicting the 9/11 attacks really hurt the ending of this game. Snake showing up with a sword and finishing it off was kind of the anthesis of the point of playing as Raiden though.

Whoa, that's quite an armament from Arsenal Gear not only it has a mass-produced Metal Gear Ray but a couple thousand nuclear warheads, torpedoes and a nuclear hydrogen bomb but here's the shocking part ladies and gentlemen, the ones who designed Arsenal Gear are The Patriots and The US Navy

"What the hell...?" That was my reaction when I finished this movie...

I loved MGS2 and appreciated it's story and plot so much more on my second play through, the first playthrough I was too pissed off at not playing as Snake after years of waiting for the game and kept on wondering when I would get to be Snake again to notice anything about the game tbh. Honestly though, MGS2's storyline is actually becoming a reality in today's world, Kojima called it back in 2001! (probably 1999 when he wrote the original story lol)

i have to say this raiden is way more badass than the raiden from the game and ironically thats why i hate it. the whole point of mgs 2 was that snake is a professional and raiden is a rookie on the field. this raiden sounds like a professional and hes pretty smug. its like watching raiden from mgs4 doing the part of mgs2 raiden. btw i think rose was a bit of an.....how should i say.........weird ? i mean sure she was weird sometimes in the real game but compare this games ending and mgs2's ending. this one is like listening to a psychopath at the ending.

i bet gray fox could kick vamp's ass gray fox is the real deal

Snake killing Solidus is kind of weird. I do like that they have more interaction, given the circumstances. Always thought it was a big missed opportunity. It kind of steals Raiden's moment in the spotlight, but... So be it. It's cool.

holy crap, this is a thing? I've never heard of this!

I was loved the art style of these

i swear the hiimdaisy comics are better than this