i love the pun of gohila , it sounds like gojira

I have a suggestion for some gimmick pokemon being fighting, steel and fairy types. Don't know if you were aware but anime came to Mexico and the rest of the Latin Americans before it came to the States. And the three anime that were a big hit were Dragon Ball, Saint Seiya and Saint Seiya. Or at least that's my recollection. It could be three separate Pokemon or just once that has different "outifts", kind of like Cosplay Pikachu.

Small note, during the pokedex entry for the prey legendary, you mentioned how it helped keep predetators from pokemon and humans despite previously stating humans had not lived in the region beforehand- it would be easier to just say pokemon to avoid the continuitey error? But seriously holy mother the designs look beautiful?? And the concept art for the dormant forms looks so good-

Just a small thing, but you actually left the Pokédex entry for gohila to say heelzilla lmao

I think you should swap the shiny and regular versions of Hylarmos! His normal form looks a bit fancifully coloured to me like a shiny, while the shiny looks more regal and balanced.

Could be a Fairy/Flying version of Drifloon and Drifblim; their Aftermath ability being like the bubble gum popping.

oo i love this!

@@Miner49er201 i think an ability similar to Eiscue/Mimikyu where the first hit takes 0 damage, and that's the gum popping, and afterwards Mazian Drifloon/Driflbim 'deflates'

Could be fairy/normal

Could be normal bug?

This is actually a very cool idea!

@@Subjectively it should be the third legendary which would be about corruption and innovation, pushing or removing parts of old traditions.

The corrupted forms could be how you first meet these Legendary Pokémon, since they were kind of abandoned by their people when they saw the errors of their ways the legendries may have sort of festered being trapped for so long and after defeating and subduing them they revert to their dormant forms and then can be raised as an egg would be, which I think lends itself to the whole cycle of life that both of them are intrinsically tied to

I could see them having a similar vibe to the kyurem forms or solgaleo and lunalas forms

This is a beautiful idea

its a game... chill

@@bigashton its a game that puts a lot of elements from real life, culture and history into its designs so...this is...pretty on par dude. Also, this was a comment from 4 months ago, are you good?

This even feeds into the traditionalism vs. modernism theme. Gteat comment

@@christianbuskirk1471 I know a man named Buskirk is not talking to me

@@bigashton well I wasnt, until rn of course

I realize I made it sound like you hadn't looked at those states for reference even though you clearly had, whoops. Meant only that playing closer to what they literally look like (signs of aging) would be a good look forward.

The "always hungry" thing doesn't fit for a reason..it's the humans misunderstanding the balance causing humans to have massive hunger, but if anything hunger isn't talking about appetite! It's the need for more things like territory and power, which predators do actually have (predators keep territory even fighting other predators to gain more). Predators are taught to stop eating but weren't taught to stop gaining more of other things specifically humans who misunderstood the legendaries. Predators maintain territory, always trying to gain more or maintain theirs, whilst prey is always fleeing around meaning they don't really have much. Plus making prey overly hungry destroying the forest whilst predators save the forest gives that "ones bad the other is good" feeling he didn't want.

I think some good changes were made to the lore but it does still feel like it could be a bit more cohesive. I said a similar thing about overabundance vs sustainability on the last video I think it's a really strong interpretation of predator vs prey I also agree that hylarmos doesn't quite look right still. for me the claws look copy pasted and they make the stance kind of weird. a move of fovus away from the claws to the fangs could be a good move. Love the new steel hornbills! incredible stuff

I really like this! also, Im unsure why Hylarmos is a poison type. When i personally think of a predator, i dont really think of poisonous creatures. They are usually small and use poison/venom to even the odds. Something large like Hylarmos wouldnt need poison, I think a dark typing would make more sense

@@SpiritoftheSands Tell that to the komodo dragon.

Great idea! I think that the Astec, and old relic design influences could be more evident! like the old one Head! :)

Idk, I feel like we shouldn’t push the sentiment that Traditional=Feral, it’s basically like saying traditional is bad, futuristic is good, which was the point of the redesign itself to prevent this. Either way, Hylarmos is a predator, not a mangy dog, and predators are known for their cunning as well as their intelligence or strategy more than they’re known for being rabid.

I personally think Hylarmos could look a little more mythological (I personally think that compared to Maripome, Hylarmos does not really give that much of a legendary aura), and a much better pose to really push the primal predatory feel. Also, I think its design is a little too heavy and bulky looking for something that has 130 speed.

Hylarmos looks to sleek which makes it look mor futuristic. It would look more ancient if it was made out of stone, maybe even with moss or something growing on it. but stone with cracks and cement lines and a time weathered roughness could really help. I think the last design captured this fairly well but I prefer this design maybe taking some of the armor bits from the last design and merging them with this current design would get it there.

I love this idea of these two monsters duking it out, only to zoom out and they're barely knee height.

Anguirus would probably fit much better than Rodan as a ground type given one of Anguirus’ signature move is a digging attack. Also fits better thematically given Anguirus is Godzilla’s first ever Kaiju enemy (before it got considered an « ally. »)

I think this could be cute, and maybe the evil commanders each have one of the mini-Kaijus as their main partner Pokémon to symbolize the disruption of the natural world, which is I think what caused the kiajus to attack in atleast the original movies

Jake Student in the original Godzilla movie it’s the nuclear strikes on Japan that caused the appearance of Gojira. After that it heavily depends on the version.

Omg yes please T0T

I think it should be a fire/psychic type because fire is super effective against bug and ice types

This is genius

This is a fantastic idea for rounding out the trio! I'd love that, and maybe the secondary typing would be ghost or dark, since it sounds kind of evil or sadistic if it's turning corrupting human tribes. Not sure which would be better, though. For battling, preferably Psychic-Dark, because Psychic-Ghost has two quadruple weaknesses so would be too easy to beat, but then it has a quadruple weakness to Maripome's bug moves. So maybe thematically, Psychic-Ghost would work better, since the parasite can't be easily beaten by either of the other two

I was thinking it could have been a scavenger. Because scavengers are like predator lites basically, they take the whole "target the weak" concept that most predators have and take it up a notch and target the dead and dying, prey that can offer practically zero resistance.

That’s really clever, and it also works on another level, because it’s like Maripome is breaking out a cocoon like a butterfly, and Hylarmos is waking up from hibernation like a bear!

Animators take notes!

cool Idea!

You typed all of that?!

@@nautilus1757 ... ... wat

And the female bobbing its neck to saw through a tree limb

This is so goofy 😂😂 I love it. Maybe there’s like an army of little chicks just chasing after the parents everytime they’re working on a different part of the nest 😭

@@ksoundkaiju9256 And thus a new member for future guitarist teams. After all, it's a metal headbanger.

That's what I was thinking too, but now that I look at it again it probably would be able to turn its head around like a lot of birds, which honestly might be even funnier

While I don’t know much about Mexican culture and traditions, it would be cool if it was some kind of Drifloon reversal of the scenario, and a bit of a pun on the term “safety scissors” the scissors design would seem safe and fine to touch with round edges, but also have an unsettling side or feeling around it. Perhaps a ghost tried inhabiting the scissors to use it as a weapon, however was unable to, since the scissors were to blunt, so it instead uses the safety of the scissors to it’s advantage to make kids to use it, and then possess them to do evil deeds once they pick the pair up.

Imagine them as benevolent fresno nightcrawlers

Sizzor pokemon! I'm an object supporter :) Except, Designing it to be a cross might not be the best idea.

Imagine a Mazah Scyther/Scizor or Honedge/Doublade/Aegis version!!

Scissor Knight

Would that mean that the “Team Bad Guy”s would be a cult?!

@@jamisanmatalonis8458 I guess sort of, like they'd have influence outside of religion but it'd all be based around their ideals. So a cult, but now make it massive and powerful.

I like it

I think an Artificial Legendary inspired by Mecha Godzilla would fit the bill perfectly in that context I'd say something like a Gigantic robotic Bat (idk why a bat specifically but I think it fits) or Ape would make a great counterpart

I think all regions, starting from Hoenn, has had a third legendary as either a complementary force to the box pair (Kyurem ,Necrozma) or as an opposing force, which as stated from the OG can have several intentions behind it. (Rayquaza, Giratina, Zygarde, Eternatus)

Seeing as we have predator and prey, maybe some sort of scavenger or decomposedlr, neither predator nor prey, like a condor or worm could be cool

@@thetacoman4268 seeing you mention condor and worm, i thought maybe a Quetzalcoatl inspired legendary. It fits with the meso theme.

dang, this is a great idea! (i went over the past legendary trios, but removed it because i hit the 10k character limit - more info at the bottom.) hylarmos and maripome, as predator/tradition and prey/progression, share the most in common with gens 5 and 6, with hylarmos somewhat representing death and truth, and maripome representing life and ideals. a potential third legendary could be either a sort of 'parent' of the two, or a balancing force that comes in to put a stop to them whenever either goes too far. these ideas can coexist, as well; the third could be the creator/master of hylarmos and maripome, as well as the absolute hammer that will come down upon them if they disobey its orders. if such a thing existed, it would have to be written into the lore - it wouldnt make sense for the ancestors of the mazah people to have turned these deities into monsters, just for the third to not intervene at all. maybe the two tribes, seeing their mistake, call upon this creature to help them seal hylarmos and maripome away? after all, it would be a tall order for humans to seal away legendary pokemon while they were in the middle of an epic battle. so, heres my idea: once, there was a great being that watched over all the pokemon in its territory. these pokemon were constantly fighting; some to feed, some to survive. from time to time, the hunters would nearly drive their targets to extinction, leading them to starvation. at other times, the hunted would grow strong, and beat back their tormentors, only to overpopulate and, once again, lead themselves to starvation. seeing this pattern repeat endlessly, the great being created two helpers: hylarmos and maripome. hylarmos was to rule over the predators, teaching them never to take more than they needed, lest they eat themselves to death. maripome was to rule over the prey, teaching them how to defend themselves, and not to expand too much, lest they, yet again, eat themselves to death. (after it made them, it rested, and things were good, but then humans showed up and ruined everything.) as for stats, typing, and ability, it ought to in some way mirror the other two, while being superior to them. for its typing, its stab moves should be supereffective against both of its creations. hylarmos is weak to fire, ground, psychic, rock, and steel, while maripome is weak to fire, psychic, and fairy, as well as having a 4x weakness to flying. since both of them are weak to fire, we can have that be the first type of this creator pokemon. they dont share any other weaknesses, but maybe the second typing should ensure that none of their stab attacks are super effective against their master? hylarmos' stab combination is super effective against grass, ground, flying, dragon, and fairy, while maripomes stab combination is super effective against normal, grass, ice, psychic, rock, dark, and steel. the remaining types that neither can hit super effectively are fire (taken), water, electric, fighting, poison, bug, and ghost. so, the options are fire water, fire electric, fire fighting, fire poison, fire bug, and fire ghost. fire ground, fire flying, and fire dragon are also options, since the fire typing cancels out the ice weakness. fire fighting is overdone, and fire bug would be a terrible typing defensively, as would fire poison and fire flying. that leaves us with fire water, fire electric, fire ground, fire ghost, and fire dragon, all of which are super cool. well decide which is best later. next are its stats. heres what ive come up with: HP: 90 ATK: 160 DEF: 100 SP. ATK: 140 SP. DEF: 170 SPD: 50 so. why did i pick these stats? first, its base stat total is 700, 20 points higher than both hylarmos and maripome. i figured it should be stronger than either of them, since it created both of them, and as a god-like being, moreso than any other pokemon since gen 4, i figured it was deserving of being in-between 680, the BST of most box legendaries, and 720, the BST of arceus, creator of all pokemon. as the creator of both the ultimate predator and the ultimate prey, i thought it should be both strong and bulky, but slow itself. this is for a few reasons. from a lore perspective, it would make sense that it needed to make helpers to go out into the world and do its bidding if it was too slow to do it itself. from a theming perspective, it sort of rounds out the trio in a couple of ways: we would have a being that hunts, a being that is hunted, and therefore flees, and a being that has no need to hunt nor flee. it does not need to eat, and it cannot be eaten. this also sets up a juxtaposition with all the pokemon it watched over, predator and prey, who were stuck in an endless cycle of starving themselves to death. it also kind of mirrors the natural reaction to a threat: fight, flight, and freeze. hylarmos, of course, fights, maripome flees, but this creator pokemon freezes. not out of fear or an effort to survive the encounter, obviously - it just doesnt need to do anything. (from a competitive perspective, this means you have to use speed control to take advantage of its busted stats.) (because its slow, we can get rid of fire electric typing. also, thats the gen 5 legendary types, and we will get rid of fire dragon for similar reasons.) now, its ability. hylarmos' ability raises its offensive stats when its opponents stats are lowered, and maripomes ability raises its speed when it enters battle. the creators ability should raise its stats as well, but which stats to raise, and how? heres what im thinking - when this pokemon knocks out another pokemon with a physical move, its attack and defense will increase. if it knocks out another pokemon with a special move, its special attack and special defense will increase. as for the name... how about triumph? maybe its a little goofy, but it makes enough sense - "when this pokemon triumphs over its foe, it raises both attack and defense for the kind of move it used, physical or special". its definitely a strong ability, and it matches the other two, so... yeah, lets go with that. Triumph. now, ive said everything there is to say, except for the typing. fire water, fire ground, and fire ghost. for fire water, weve only ever gotten one pokemon with that typing, volcanion, who is a mythical, and therefore has never been legal in competitive play, not to mention how few players even have one. this would get a fire water type into peoples hands, and we could finally see this interesting type shine somewhere that isnt a movie. as for why it would actually be a fire water type, fire is one of the types most synonymous with life, and the ocean is where life began. this pokemon could also be tied into the four ocean legendaries from the mermay event; perhaps it sent them to control the seas while hylarmos and maripome were sent to rule the land? it doesnt seem as if either of them would be particularly good swimmers, after all. fire ground is typing only held by numel, camerupt, and primal groudon. this typing has seen much more use, both in casual and competitive play, but since none of those pokemon exist in gen 8, and primal groudon is likely to never return, it definitely wouldnt hurt to give this type combo a little more representation. as for why it would be fire ground, fire, as i already said, is associated with life, and ground is associated with stability. ergo, it would make sense for this pokemon, who is very concerned about the stability of life in the mazah region, to have this typing. it is the foundation upon which the mazah region and its ecosystem are built. finally, fire ghost. its a bit more common than the other two typings, starting out im gen 5 with just litwick, lampent, and chandelure, and then exploding in popularity in recent history, with alolan marowak, blacephalon, hisuian typhlosian, and, if rumors are to be believed, the final evolution of fuecoco. however, fire ghost is, scientifically speaking, one of the most dope typings to have ever existed, so one more wouldnt hurt too much. as for why it would have this typing, once again, fire type is associated with life, while ghost type is obviously associated with the dead. life and death are very important themes in both the mazah region and its real-world counterpart, mexico, so a fire ghost typing would reflect that nicely. lorewise, this is the being that oversees the life and death of every pokemon in the mazah region, and was upset that the harmony between these two forces kept falling out of balance. its also easy to see those typings in its helpers; hylarmos, as a deadly hunter and an ice poison type, would almost certainly have ghost as its third typing if such a thing existed, while maripome, the fast and beautiful bug fighting type, whose wings literally look like fire, definitely embodies the fire type, and i imagine they would both get ghost and fire coverage moves, respectively. so, now that we know basically everything about these three typings, and why the creator pokemon would have them, which one should it have? personally, my vote would go to fire water, because we dont have a proper, fully usable pokemon with that typing, and my runner-ups would be fire ghost and then fire ground. but, since you were insane enough to actually read this novel on a pokemon that doesnt exist, what are your thoughts? which of those three typings do you think it should be? or maybe i got everything about this wrong; maybe it should be a grass electric type, and the stats should be different, and it should have a different ability - id love to hear anyone elses thoughts on this! (my comment was a bit too long (12000 characters) so i had to remove a few paragraphs, sadly. my main points are still there, though. i paraphrased all the parts that i deleted in parentheses.)

So like HGSS basically Or maybe just one version and you choose which legend you want

@@ksoundkaiju9256 Yeah that would be amazing!

@@christianrolle2548 tho I wonder what would the traditional third legend would be like? Maybe something created by man that forces predator and prey to team up?

@@ksoundkaiju9256 I know this doesn't completely match up with the legendaries but a fight, flight and freeze response?

To me, this region sounds perfect for a Magma/Aqua situation. You have a different team for each version. In this case, the teams are descendants of the two tribes and are trying to carry out their ancestors’ mission and each team upsets the balance in their own way.

ummm

@@bigashton well birds aren’t, but they’ve had them for eons

Or give it an ability like run away where it can always escape or swap out

that might make it more balanced, but it would not make it more viable, as raising your speed as soon as you enter battle is insanely strong

@@mystery5906 not as soon as,only when the opposing have a stat boost so it would be normal to start with and an awesome counter to broken mons like Zacian Crownded or set-up sweppers as it can sure to fight back as the opposing mon get stronger

Maybe Maripome learns U-Turn?

Ngl, I like this idea much more

I really like the idea of them both incidentally keeping the other in check, like Hylarmos isn’t chasing Maripome to stop them from eating everything, it’s just that their the most appetizing thing to eat, and Maripome isn’t distracting Hylarmos to stop it from eating everyone, it just doesn’t want to die, doesnt seem like one side is right or wrong, and feels much more natural

Ooo or something man made? Lockstin's Fakemon Antagonistic pokemon was a new form of porygon made in the image of an extinct legendary. Things like pesticide and construction used to try and control nature to human advantage given form

I remember having thoughts of a fungal Pokémon representing decay at one point symbolizing the final destination of all life. Perhaps that could also be worked in as the decay of natural order at the hands of humans. And the fused form could look like some horrific fungal infection with decay trying to take these Pokémon before their time as the order has been upset to the brink of collapse. The strange thing would be that this Pokémon’s base form is a natural part of the process. All things die and decay and it helps to decompose and fertilize the soil for new life. But human activity has unknowingly mutated and corrupted it. And it spreads this blight to other creatures such as the legendaries.

IT CAN BE JUST A BIG DITTO

@@convalaria another mew accident 😂 Omg is the third legendary mewtwo?

Hey that’s a very good idea

ooh, the decomposer idea is really cool!

Orrr both and the natural disaster could be a mythical like Arceus

I'm constantly impressed and inspired by all of Jack's work, honestly. He's very technically skilled while still remaining open-minded. And I really appreciate how well he takes criticism.

Alternatively, other comments suggest that the first version is more the resultant wives’ tale of what really happened with successive tales getting closer to the truth which paints Hylarmos and Maripome necessary.

He actually made a line of pseudolegendaries inspired by axolotls already. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/is6UaNyayNScqqs.html

Maybe a regional variant of Slowpoke. Instead of evolving into Slowbro/Slowking by getting bit by a 'shellder', they turn into something else when bitten by the Banana fish monsters.

banana fishing rod

the banana fish mon can become a flail arm for atelangler maybe

Perhaps it's the shields? I know they connect it to it's other, but shields and armor in nature are more common to herbivores aren't they? Or omnivores I suppose. The Pangolins are armored carnivores, but they don't look it. It could be like a snapping turtle or crocodile. Both are armored predators, but more the lie in wait kind than the chasing prey kind. What does Hylarmos hunt normally? If it is the bug then something like a frog or pangolin may be better visual inspiration. Pangolin scales could curl into a ball like the shields did so maybe experiment with that?

I think part of it is because it kind of has the silhouette of a gorilla (like, technically quadrupedal, but very upright), which also lost some of the lizard ness. I think the lizard idea was great but it wasn't taken far enough. I think that if Maripome looks like something mech-esque and also represents modernism, then Hylarmos should be... Rockier. Not like a rock type, but more natural, jagged edges/shapes, like a frost crusted beaded lizard or spike tailed iguana, so long as the concept of it being quadruped is COMMITTED to, and it has a rocky shape Or like going for a more gecko-y silhouette could also work but I think that would take away from the ice type-ness

yess another minibaby for gohila!!

TINY MOTHRA TINY MOTHRA TINY MOTHRA

This is perfect

If a third thing version comes out, it could either be called Pokémon Freeze or Pokémon Fawn (after the other two reactions to danger) or Pokémon Scavenge (after the other counterpart to how animals would look for good).

Maybe a neck frill to emphasize the "scary visage"?

I agree with all your suggestions (great job putting all of them in a concise and readable way! I could never). I really like how the legendaries look, there story, and how they play off each other. I’m a sucker for the big scary monster and beautiful lithe but tough opponent.

Honestly, there is only one solution: Hylarmos starts off quadrupedal but when it uses a moves it roars and becomes bipedal in a pouncing motion. It can have both stances and that also reflects the adaptability of an ultimate hunter.

I think i have more issue with the new design for Hylarmos, mainly that this new one does not look like a hunter and to me it actually looks like of like a herbivore Looking at its design i get far more a guardian creature feel from it, this comes from the shield like head, the flat face with a big chin, the bulky arms, and the more gorilla like shape/pose, i feel like a lot of the hunter/predator aspects got lost in this new design. while yes many mammal predators have front facing eyes, they also all have longer jaws and snouts, and i feel like that was more important. really at the moment it looks more like a guardian of something, and while it does look like it would be very ferousios and guard its territory, the idea that its a hunter does not really come thru its design I think the more reptilian design works much better as while they don't have the front facing eyes, they are more known for being carnivores creatures (actually cannot think of a single vegetarian lizard), i think it would not only look more like a hunter, but have more of an apex predator feel, a predator above all other predators. the old design i think was better for that reason, it looked like a creature that would hunt down its prey, while it had a flatter face, the eyes on the side gave it a more carnivorous shape, the new arms look too bulky making the deign look more defensive and slow, and lastly in the old design the big pillar on its back actually added a lot to the design as it looked like a fin giving the create an almost shark like design, and i really like a slick shark lizard give off the idea of a hunter much better then a bulky monkey thing basically i think the design needs to look more agile or at least mobile, a face that looks designed for hunting and fix the body shape to look less monkey and maybe hunting creature

It’s unfair to suggest a dragon you know jack can’t resist them lol

Also the evil teams

ok Finn, nice one

TBF it is based on the Sword/Shield legendaries abilities, which do the same with attack and defense

@@ethanhinton4549 TBH, I haven't played the 8G so I didn't know, but the fact remains that it's disapointingly useless.

The main problem I have with it is how it fits in better alongside Zacian and Zamazenta than it's own counterpart, when Zacian and Zamazenta proved that the two legendaries having abilities that reflect each other helps sell their relationship. My initial idea was to have it be the exact opposite of Hylarmos (it raises Defense and Special Defense everytime the opponent's stats get boosted) but your proposition is basically the same idea for speed which also works, as long as it's related to Hylarmos

@@sephikong8323 That's fair. Perhaps a different ability could be that it gets buffs when the enemy buss the other way? (gets attack when they buff defense, special defense when they buff attack, ect)

Maybe giving it a more snake like appearance would work? Smaller back legs and a more snake like tail and maybe an open mouth with large fangs to lean into the poison type too

Why not both??

honestly, through a lot of the video i was thinking the same! n for some reason, wondering if it could be a predecessor/influenced the lil gila monster pokemon

Hmm. Omnivore lol. Maybe a bear Pokémon

huh..not sure what that would be, given that predators and prey would be a duo... ah... maybe a cat like mon, since cats kind of fill the neiche between predator and prey being both. the Ocelot kind of comes to mind, being a small feline that lives in south america. it would actually work thematically, given that in the conflict between progressivism and traditionalism, there are often centrists just sitting in the middle caught between the two lol perhaps he could be like Rayquaza, a legendary that helps you balance out the other two, like centrism often does with the symbolic side of this? would rather fit in well actually.

@@WhiteDragonCM Good idea. I forgot the legendaries were based off a lizard and insect. Bear would be too big. An Ocelot would be cool.

@@willscarlet0 maybe a spider could work too? Since we have a lizard and a bug and spiders can be predators for bugs but prey for larger animals like lizards.

What was Sword and Shields? Calyrex is quite seperate so it doesn't count.

^^ This. This is strong

it also doesn't look like a single stage pokemon. it could use a refining or an evolution to look more "done".

I know they have a sugarcane stock that they use to fish, but what if they used their tail to fish instead? There’s a species of large cat that does that (the tail would look like a sugar cane stock, of course) It would cut out the tool use, which wouldn’t be ideal, but it feels a lot like Farfetch’d to me, especially with the pose. Maybe giving it a pose where it’s fishing and kind of “lying in wait” would give it more personality perhaps? With some sort of grass covering like you mentioned would also work very well.

@@velociraptorhijinks7279 ooooh!

How does Atelangler not look like a single stage Pokémon? It is very distinct which is something single-stage Pokémon have, and it seems to crib from being the Cramorant to the Banagnaw’s Arrokuda. Though I will admit a fisherman Pokémon feel like it’s subtly wrong somehow?

You’re

same

Hylarmos still looks like Gorimondo from Forgotten Land and that boss does not move fast.

I agree, I see what he was going for but I kinda just see a normal bird that put a saw on its head, it doesnt feel part of it

@@greenfa7786 I agreed until he showed what hornbills looked like, then the design made a lot more sense

@@twerdeffan1080 Same. And often enough: Simplicity is key to get a point across.

@@twerdeffan1080 ye I get that he was going for that but I just feel like the saw could look more like a casque

Yeah. The male one is very inspired, but the female one feels boring in comparison. But some Pokemon are like that and it could be fine.

I think its' proportions are supposed to give the idea of a larger creature, and then you see it's tiny as a sort of built-in punchline.

Isn't that the point though?

It's got way too much detail for his size, at least that's the impression I have.

I agree, people actually tend to see big reptiles and alien features to be scary (the less it looks like you the more unnerved you are, so mammals are less scary to us). Not many are scared of mammals, most actually wanting to cuddle mammals (like people adoring bears and tigers or even gorillas as mentioned by you). Reptiles and insects are both common fears of people! I also found the more reptile/alienoid look scary, more feral.

Yeah, I think that Hylarmos had a much more intimidating look before. It's cool that it folds into a ball, but I also think it looks a bit TOO smooth because of that, the jagged reptilian look it had before, especially by the neck did a bit more for me

keep it to urself next time

I agree 100%

isn't that too conceptually close to Whiscash though?

@@tanglekelp1857 I mean, sure but I don't see a reason it can't stand apart from Whiscash, we have like 7 or so small electric rodent pokemon that all fill exactly the same niche with very little to differentiate them from one another. Plus if nothing else it can be a regional varient of the Whiscash line, or maybe even of Stunfisk? I think the type changing ability alone would make it worthwhile to explore, cause I know when I play pokemon I'm always looking for an excuse to stack type coverage on a single mon as much as possible so my options for a team of 6 are as broad as possible

I think it looks way too much like Toucannon

I disagree, many prey animals in real life are dangerous and aggressive. They are often outfitted with horns/claws/tusks etc. to defend themselves.

That is true; prey animals can actually fight fiercely when they need to, like hippos or deer.

That actually makes so much sense, you could take it a step further and make them version exclusives, since one is predator and the other is prey in a sense

Also, Heelzilla and Gohila sound like good comparison names. One sounds too on the nose like something related to Godzilla, like a Pokémon trying too hard to be like Godzilla but it is too non-threatening, while Gohila sounds like it is a Pokémon that is small but terrifying, like a Pokémon based off of Godzilla (or Gojira, as is obvious by the name). Therefore, it would evolve from Heelzilla to Gohila to signify that it is much more effective at being a terrifying mini-kaiju Pokémon, and the addition of spikes also indicate this.

HEEL WHAAAAT.. get a grip

I really like that idea, though it would be kind of tough

@@limeyell0w945 I was thinking a sloth luchador that starts as a prehistoric sloth that becomes a modern day sloth that's smaller and more nimble when it evolves. Or a pufferfish that loses it's poison when it evolves and becomes a fairy type

@@Diabetic64 ah interesting

@@limeyell0w945 something based off how computer-type tech has been getting smaller mayhaps?

@@Vivian-eo3qc ooh that sounds cool