Detailers Are Cleaning Wheels The Wrong Way

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@DetailGroove 11 ай бұрын

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@bannerrecording 10 ай бұрын

I’m a mobile detailer in atlanta and have sone around 500 cars now. I’ve adopted this method that seems to work for me (just in case anyone is looking for alternate methods) 1. Spray Retyre on the tire 2. Immediately spray a mix of Brake Buster and an iron remover on the rim with a foaming spray head 3. Agitate the tire then agitate the rim with a boards hair brush. 4. Rinse 5. Hit the inner barrel with a wheel woolie and face with a mit or rag 6. Rinse and done. I do this because it allows the products to all dwell a bit longer without drying out and I’m never just waiting for something to happen. Hope that helps anyone out there!

@darren3851 4 күн бұрын

I’m in atl too, what’s your business name?

@reganwhiteman9001 11 ай бұрын

I use brake buster + iron remover. Works extremely well.

@treverbickmore476 10 ай бұрын

I Use orange degreaser for most wheels and DBX from 3D which works very well.

@Krackedoutkenny 10 ай бұрын

@@_risenjust combine them into one bottle. I do brake buster a bit of iron remover and dilute with water and your good to go

@mcdoob 10 ай бұрын

You’ve never used wheel acid if you think BB is even remotely comparable lol

@reganwhiteman9001 10 ай бұрын

@mcdoob i know this, i think we all know that. It's not really comparable, but other than iron remover, i dont really like using acid based products. I will say acid works so much better, but it's all personal preference. Acid is quicker. Takes a lot of the manual scrubbing away, but with the right amount of effort, you can get any wheel looking just as clean. Its all about effort. These products are only here for time efficiency, your normal car wash soap will do just as good but you'll put in 10x the effort. Make sense?

@reganwhiteman9001 10 ай бұрын

@_risen i use iron remover first. Let it sit on the wheels only until ive sprayed the last wheel and then going over with the brake buster and or citrus All purpose cleaner

@ct181 11 ай бұрын

I agree. I am currently doing a BMW 3 and the rims are trashed, actually the whole thing is. I used Megs wheel bright diluted 5 to 1 and it did a great job. I did have to stay on top and apply and scrub then rinse. Then i went and sprayed iron remover on all 4

@cebasmb8250 10 ай бұрын

Acid works fantastic i usedit for years (BUT) you need something like break buster after.... because Acid can cause the calipers and routers to rust out and don't let me no I've been doing this for years and on my own car that's why i figures it out that the Acid cause rust, do after i used Acid on hammered wheels i spray break buster spray let it sit a bit so it penetration over the surface then rinse. You may not know this but I've seen it because i used it on my car, so the method i use now i don't get that rust. The customers car is gone so you done know what's taking place on the calipers and routers. Not bashing you your a great guy,,,,, keep it up man

@VulcanXIV 10 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing and helping us all out man

@manuelpluguez1359 11 ай бұрын

Best wheel vid on YT by far. Thanks!

@peterbui618 10 ай бұрын

As someone who only does this as a weekend job, I learned this far too late and too much elbow grease to clean wheels. I stopped by my local detailing shop and immediately bought acid wheel cleaner, and the wheels that typically struggle to clean...made the cleaning process a breeze. Step by step, I become more efficient and slowly make more money per hour, especially on the neglected cars that I detail.

@Javi-px7jz 11 ай бұрын

Best detailing information out there!

@thesamsquatch5224 11 ай бұрын

Most importantly wear gloves, and wear a respirator with wheel acid if you go that route

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

facts!

@lsdoyoutriplsdoyoutrip3201 9 ай бұрын

I second the respirator! I was using acid cleaner and spray it on a panel and mistakenly breathed in one big sniff. Oh man! The aftermath was horrendous, from painkillers to nebuliser, it was hard to recover. Even my breathing tasted like acid. I'll be cautious always!

@sikkinixxmc 4 ай бұрын

I started wearing an N95 mask for interiors. I feel so much better without all that dirt and germs up my nose!

@matthewgibb2640 10 ай бұрын

Two important things about acids to remember, there are different types of acids used in wheel cleaners and you want one that has the buffering agents in it to prevent the acids (hydrofluoric, sulfuric, oxalic or whichever) from pitting, etching or bleaching any unpainted metals or turn alloy bars white. And only use an acidic wheel cleaner on wheels that truly need it. Detailing is vehicle surface care and more, so use only what the surfaces need not smashing every wheel with acid just because its faster or using compound on every paint that needs correction, sometimes acids and compounds arent needed. I rinseless wash my first cars wheels cause they have brakes that dont leave brake dust much at all. Save your iron fallout remover for once the wheel is clean, they are an acid too (thioglycolic acid) - sodium, anmonium or potassium ones exist but a truly good wheel acid takes the worst wheels and makes them look polished. Check any acid cleaners safety data sheets for Ph adjuster or buffering agent listed in the compositiom of hazardous ingredients section of the sheet. Some acidic cleaners dont have them and they pit, etch and turn white, any metal thats unpainted or uncoated.

@alanwallace3253 10 ай бұрын

I like to spray whatever wheel cleaner that makes sense ( after my evaluation of the general condition of the vehicle). I use different soaps, foam, wheel soaps, tire cleaners etc all based on that evaluation. They are are accessible and ready. I also like to spray wheel and tire, Wheel first, while it is dwelling, I’ll spray tire. Agitate inner barrel of wheel, then tire, then outer wheel and rim, rinse. The only exception is when I have very dirty or dusty wheel, I’ll pre rinse quickly to get surface dirt off before using chemicals. All of this is aimed at the least aggressive method that gets the job done…first time.

@iglopez63D 10 ай бұрын

Great info,on another subject what is the best chemical to restore faded black seal around the side windows? Ty

@nievesmares3179 10 ай бұрын

I only use Superior "dark fury" works amazing with wool brushes then pressure wash 15° tip

@danielserpa5005 9 ай бұрын

I love the business oriented point of view

@scottsmobileautodetailing9770 11 ай бұрын

I use Nanoskin Non-Acid and it's performed BRILLIANTLY! It's my favorite cleaner so far for tires & wheels.

@mattmccauley5561 10 ай бұрын

Yeah man I started using theirs and got the iron remover too. I've used brake buster and adams wheel and tire and I think adams is better than brake buster but Nano skin was 25$ for a gallon and I love it. There's hardly anyone that talks about it. I use it out of a foam cannon and it's really good, I'll add the iron remover if needed and that's also cheap,14$ for 16oz.

@scottsmobileautodetailing9770 10 ай бұрын

@@mattmccauley5561 yep, I use it in an IK Foamer as well. It's the bomb bro!

@lazzarosautodetailing 10 ай бұрын

Do you happen to have a Link ???

@mishimposble 10 ай бұрын

I have factory painted aluminum wheels with brake dust that wont clean off. Im afraid to use anything aggressive because ive had consumer level product remove the wheel paint before.

@jamietaylor3075 10 ай бұрын

What do you use to clean the wiper blades

@Utmdcmr 11 ай бұрын

Well said! Time is money 💰

@sevenpaulperalta929 10 ай бұрын

Would you recommend this product to thoroughly clean wheels before Ceramic Coating?

@MM-fh6kp 9 ай бұрын

Been a pro for decades and you are correct! They make a much better brush!

@quinones355 11 ай бұрын

What brand is pressure washer and wand?

@ejayagnes 11 ай бұрын

Yup acid works great especially on semi trucks wheels

@MrRedcelica 8 күн бұрын

im a detailer and theres an amazing Alkaline based cleaner called grime off its amazing, it turns dirt into a skin and you just hit it off with a gerni, great for wheels and underbodies. i use that then agitate let it sit some more than rinse off.

@ShasCarDetailing 2 күн бұрын

When using wheel acid You wanna be careful in direct sunshine. Make sure you spray the wheel first to cool it down, might want to a test area first, use gloves and mask as well as you don’t want to breathe it in. Pay attention to which way the wind blows so you not spraying and the acid comes back in you. Don’t let it sit more than around 30 seconds , if it hasn’t come of then rinse and do another round.Neutralize the acid with another cleaner after the acid. Wear gloves and a mask 😷. Acid definitely works wonders with baked on brake dust and will save you a ton of time and get the wheel shining, just have to be a little careful

@anthonybadagliacca4516 10 ай бұрын

Do you use anything to neutralize the acid? Is that a necessary step?

@ka-cx2wf 6 күн бұрын

I use the same process, assuming the car wheels are cool to touch of course. Acid saves time on door jams as well if you’re really pushing out cars 💪👊🏽

@ArthurMSoto 11 ай бұрын

You prefer to use the 25-degree nozzle on wheels?

@sm_3558 10 ай бұрын

Can u use this type of acid on polished aluminum face wheels with painted black pockets ?

@lucashurley7612 10 ай бұрын

Working at ford we used acid on basialy every car (new and used) rims and they where all fine. ACCEPT plastec centercaps. I did once dammage the SUPER DUTY center caps on a BRAND NEW F250, barely anything but still some paint gone.

@stephenlouden480 10 ай бұрын

I do this same thing but pressure wash first to loosen some cake on the wheels then I apply the acid and brush, then I apply foam to neutralize and rinse. definately go full strength with whatever you're using .. if it's extremely dirty. no need to waste time. just go quicker and don't let it dry before neutralizing rinsing. wheels are easy with acid or full strength degreaser I always find that pressure washing wheels first makes a huge difference in effort it takes chemicals to clean wheel and brushes need less pressure. plus you break through some grime with the pressure helps a lot do whatever way you want just be safe don't take forever and go over them five times 😆

@CrownMeBob 7 ай бұрын

What would you recommend for DIY folks out there?

@YellowJeep 10 ай бұрын

What wand setup and nozzle are you using on your pressure washer? I like that it rotates and the nozzle has the protective rubber boot.

@lazzarosautodetailing 10 ай бұрын

Thats the MTM Acqualine Pressure washer gun, wand & Nozzle

@YellowJeep 10 ай бұрын

@@lazzarosautodetailing Thank you. 👍

@rworthinTM 10 ай бұрын

Man where you get the blue mtm lance? I got the black one, but I need that blue 💙

@owensteele1645 11 ай бұрын

Spraying iron remover on wheels on lots of cars day in day out is very expensive.

@DetailGroove 11 ай бұрын

Good point! A gallon from Adams is $50. And that's on the cheaper side

@poetix294 11 ай бұрын

i use mag n wire diluted 1 to 10. works perfectly

@MikesAutoDetailing 10 ай бұрын

Great job

@RAWDetailing-ey8my 2 ай бұрын

Best wheel cleaning video 👍

@DetailGroove 2 ай бұрын

thanks!

@MikesAutoDetailing 12 күн бұрын

Great video

@Pearl3Drummer 10 ай бұрын

I love the "it's for instagram" line

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

yup.. a lot of things are 😅

@SilverTrill 2 күн бұрын

Acid will also remove your wheel wax or protection

@Mathewlarge 11 ай бұрын

I think you're onto something here, Oscar. I think I'll include this on neglected wheels like you suggest. I believe I'll do a quick agitation rinse then using the wheel brightener and let it set as I'm cleaning the tire and then give a thorough rinse of the tire and wheel. Thanks for this suggestion.

@misaelmunoz7275 10 ай бұрын

Finish Renu Acid is amazing

@aydenmontes8859 10 ай бұрын

You should get your products from the guy that supplies the dealers cause they do the same.and how often do you replace your sprayer

@hectort6383 10 ай бұрын

Has a detailer you always give 100 % and don’t rush because your charging for quality not quantity

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

Have you seen the back of a kitchen during lunch time? Those people are moving and food is still expected to come out great. Speed does not mean rushing

@Ichabod_Jericho 11 ай бұрын

Bro when I found Tuff Stuff by Technicians Choice, I realized all other wheel cleaners are pointless and KZfaqrs are mostly focused on selling you a different brand every month. Wheels and tires stop you from going right to the real washing! Gotta make the process as fast as possible and acid based cleaners allow for a one swipe with the brush & rinse technique. Couldn’t be any faster! On my maintenance clients, I spray and let it dwell during the initial foam bath and boom: flawlessly clean wheels no time spent on brushing wheels.

@timmclaughlin7576 11 ай бұрын

Great video, excellent explanation. Agree with you 100%! Do use other acid wheel cleaners? Do you have any experience with Nanoskin non acid wheel cleaner?

@TheDude68305 10 ай бұрын

Also, I'm sure that a strong acid should never be used on polished aluminum.

@Regretamine 10 ай бұрын

Is “Adams wheel and tire” cleaner good? Thanks in advance

@halamadrid6733 10 ай бұрын

Never used it but Brake Buster by P&S is amazing

@Regretamine 10 ай бұрын

@@halamadrid6733 thanks for the recommendation. I’ll get some in on my next order

@xytics5519 11 ай бұрын

hey man i have some possible clients but they live in apartment complexes and i don’t have a generator or water source, how do i go about this situation

@komradekoala5648 10 ай бұрын

Your best bet would be a rinseless wash. Get yourself a nice sprayer, load it with something like ONR, and you're good. I'd grab some DI or distilled water just to reup the sprayer.

@toml.8210 10 ай бұрын

What is the mat underthe vehicle? It looks like a catch basin, so the water drain to the floor drain. instead of getting the entire garage floor wet or getting acid on the concrete.

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

Yep, it's a containment mat

@jbanda896 10 ай бұрын

What about ceramic coated wheels?

@Juan-xz8tg 6 ай бұрын

Acid+water hose vs iron remover and pressure washer?

@MrChuckwagon55 10 ай бұрын

What about Meguiars wheel brightener?

@spencerroberts8005 11 ай бұрын

Are you cleaning the tires and applying tire shine at this step of the process? Or do you do that when you are washing the rest of the car?

@DetailGroove 11 ай бұрын

I guess it depends on the service. If this is getting prepped for a correction/coating, then no, that's going to be at the very end of the whole detail

@HEMi1995 11 ай бұрын

Why would you apply tire shine before washing the rest of the car? The tire shine would come off after rinsing the whole car and the wheels would get wet again.

@johnwilson6211 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing 🫡💯

@JrsAutoSpa 10 ай бұрын

Please try dark fury We spray wheels, rinse off and walk away 80% of the time it’s good enough to pass 👍🏻 the other 20% are either gloss black, or matte wheels. But it’s great for aluminum to kill your time in half!

@eclipse_4747 10 ай бұрын

shhhh!!!!!! superior is the lowkey stuff

@eddieledezma 10 ай бұрын

That's my go to wheel cleaner. I only use it on factory wheels. All those aftermarket like Fuel wheels are a no. I rinse spray wire cleaner 4:1 and pressure wash. Let the pressure do the job.

@yourboieejake 10 ай бұрын

First off superior products are totally slept on, second acid wheel cleaners are not as harmful as all of the youtube detailers want you to believe. They work fast and get results.

@atomicdetailsoc 11 ай бұрын

yeah we keep a bottle of the acid for the tougher dirtier wheels but depends on the wheel like you said......Porsche GTS 4.0 with a delicate finish? nah , old repo from dealership? yeah.

@DetailGroove 11 ай бұрын

Yep! Acid is not for all wheels

@lennynguyen2620 10 ай бұрын

So what would you guys do to get the job done fast but can’t use acid?

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

We'd go with APC diluted 4:1 and just move faster haha

@lennynguyen2620 10 ай бұрын

@@DetailGroove haha I respect that

@meteora8888 9 ай бұрын

at a carwash, would acid be used usually on every car so they can churn thru cars? if so and it's aggressive, does that mean every time you get your car washed, theyre slowly damaging your finish? i can't imagine a car wash having acid and a iron remover and selectively using on each car. i'm guessing they'd just have one product as a volume business?

@dmrk0834 11 ай бұрын

Realest shit - yep - knock it out fast with the one hitta quitta👍🏽👍🏽

@frankfeng6199 10 ай бұрын

What kind of surfaces of wheels should you not use acid on?

@misaelmunoz7275 10 ай бұрын

Same as any wheel cleaner . No aluminum

@apox5308 6 күн бұрын

At the start says ‘this video is only for detailers that have their own business and make money, not an average KZfaqr’ then proceeds to advertise ‘ultimate guide to start your detailing business’ 😂

@TheUntypicals 11 ай бұрын

I see a tonne of alloys and tyres damagef by wheel acid. It takes off the laminate off diamond cut alloys, paint off coated alloys,damages brake drums, makes tyres crack soon. If it touches your skin it will burn and it iritates lungs 😢

@DetailGroove 11 ай бұрын

Yep, it's strong stuff. That's why I mentioned twice that it should be only for professionals and under the right context

@TheUntypicals 10 ай бұрын

Sorry but acid damages all surfaces it touches, I would never use it

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'd recommend to someone like you don't use it then. Stay safe with APC 🙌🏽

@BeefT-Sq 9 ай бұрын

@@DetailGroove You might sing a different tune when you are standing at your eye-wash station---you do have an eye-wash station, don't you ? LOL

@gimaru1 11 ай бұрын

How does Super Clean compare to this?

@shawnmoppinsr1993 10 ай бұрын

This is not for a D.I.Y person ...wow we all want to get done effectively. No matter 1 vehicle or multiple vehicles

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

for sure. just not really needed. do two passes of APC and you're good to go

@TheSlickguy01 11 ай бұрын

What apc do you use or would recommend?

@w1nnin 11 ай бұрын

Super clean period

@dossegundos7145 11 ай бұрын

Optimum power clean, effective and safer

@NavyGirlO6 10 ай бұрын

Am with theSamSquatch but moreso guys, put some **EYE PRO** on. We’ve all been splashed with something, yeah? Protect those Baby Browns when detailing!

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

Oh yeah! This is a big one. Good point

@mlj257 7 ай бұрын

For a weekend Warrior, I don't see this being beneficial as maintenance washes won't need those deep cleans like that. I could see this being beneficial to a detailing business.

@bchaffer79 11 ай бұрын

Dark fury... You're welcome

@DetailGroove 11 ай бұрын

Superior has great products 🙌🏽

@bchaffer79 11 ай бұрын

@@DetailGroove facts, I use a bunch of their stuff

@blechbuddy 11 ай бұрын

I agree and I don't. If it's the sort of wheel you are doing I go your way. But any other higher quality rim, polished rim or crome rim I do use a safer high quality non acid one. And for ceramic coated it's usually just brake buster 50:50. Also I disagree with the brush and it being for instagram. You know yourself you need a microfiber wheel brush or ez detail brush for the inside, something for behind the face (if you include) a brush for the nuts, a brush for the tire etc

@mrlooneycooney8948 11 ай бұрын

You actually dont need any tool for the inside when using the proper products and ways to do it. The less you touch anything, the less you'll damage the paint, same goes for the wheels. If people love to do that, fine, but for a professional, who's time is valuable..most of it is a waste.

@ArthurMSoto 11 ай бұрын

@@mrlooneycooney8948 what products do you usually use for the wheel, tires and wheel well process?

@saulgoode1399 3 ай бұрын

Whip out the drill brush attachments

@elitechen5918 10 ай бұрын

u are brushing the interior of the wheel with all the dirt, and scratch the inner wheel, u need to rinse everytime u scrub inside...

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

what do you recommend I do?

@MississippiTony 4 ай бұрын

This doesn't look no faster

@Albert-the-Astro 11 ай бұрын

I see you loaded the guns for this video, keep it bro. Thanks for the info!

@evenito9455 10 ай бұрын

You should start with power washing the wheel thoroughly before putting your hands and brushes on it.

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

what's funny is then there's a bunch of other people who would bash me for doing that 😅

@evenito9455 10 ай бұрын

@@DetailGroove it follows the principle if removing as much dirt as possible before we put our hands on the car.

@victoryensured7137 2 ай бұрын

@@evenito9455 everybody has a diffrent process, i dont blast on my black high gloss wheels, as its like sanblasting them, first i always foam or spray a cleaner and let it work, then a light power wash

@CMDR_Birb 6 күн бұрын

Why not just some dish soap

@douglashadaway5114 10 ай бұрын

That wheel wasn’t caked on. You wiped it off with your finger. Way too many products for 1 wheel lol

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

That was the top layer.There was a dry layer under that

@lukas______ 3 күн бұрын

Car wash or dish soap will do the trick 🧠🧠🤯🧠

@verduzcoautodetailing3183 11 ай бұрын

Windex😂😂

@derrickabare9986 10 ай бұрын

I don't bother with iron remover on wheels . Waste of time to me . If wheels not to bad I use advanced brake dust remover, non acid . If pretty bad I use advanced wire wheel or sterling wheel brightener . Cutting the acid at 20 to 1 makes a good iron remover on paint as well .

@TheDude68305 10 ай бұрын

Acid can eat away the clear coat, correct?

@mattmccauley5561 10 ай бұрын

Wheels are so simple though. I use nano skin non acid. It foams like crazy so i use it out of a foam cannon. Now if the wheel is really bad then i add a couple oz of nano skin iron free to help the wheel and tire cleaner in my foam cannon. Spray the wheel and tire off first. Then foam both on one side i let it sit for exactly 2 minutes then foam it a little more and scrub the tire first the hit the barrel then the face and lug nuts, then the wheel well. Rinse and done.

@PlayafromtheHimalayas 10 ай бұрын

I use a wheel cleaning brush and a pressure washer on my hoes just like that.

@1powerequalsgod 10 ай бұрын

Wear that mask and gloves with acid wheel cleaners

@anthonysholars4782 11 ай бұрын

Do we put acid on painted wheels 😢

@BeefT-Sq 9 ай бұрын

Profit on acid wheel cleaning : $15.00 . Emergency Room charges : $2500.00. Any questions ?

@renogunzddragon1900 Ай бұрын

@@BeefT-Sqwrong channel bud

@jaywilliams8995 4 күн бұрын

That wheel is not clean stop the cap learn how to detail cause you really don't me against you 92324 cali

@MikalBrowning 10 ай бұрын

So now you're the detailing authority? Sit down, son

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

🤡

@user-rb1yf4he9q 10 ай бұрын

Why is every vid you saying every Detailer is wrong. Are you the only Detailer doing it correctly? Doubt it seriously

@DetailGroove 10 ай бұрын

To be fair, I didn't say "every" detailer. I said "detailers". It's just my opinion.. but also; I wish I could title the video "this is how I clean wheels" but it's going to get 500 views.. there's always an angle