Developing Sheet Film - Large Format Friday

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While I spend a lot of time on this channel discussing the importance of proper exposure, development of your film is equally as important! Today I'm going through the theory behind development, the different controls, and sharing a pastime of mine that has a lot in common with film photography and the darkroom.
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00:00 - Intro
01:19 - LF Advantage
02:08 - Know Your Film's EI
03:21 - Forming Density
04:08 - Film Response
05:15 - Example Negative
06:10 - Meter for Processing
06:47 - N+ (Plus) Processing
08:49 - N- (Minus) Processing
09:52 - Mat's $0.02
10:20 - Keeping Track
11:03 - Temp. & pH Control
12:37 - Dilution Control
14:32 - Baking with Mat
19:11 - Wrap-Up

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@MichaelWellman1955 2 жыл бұрын

I had no idea this was going to turn into a cooking show. LOL Great analogy and great review on the importance of developing your own film

@svenspetersen6675 2 жыл бұрын

I have a bread in the oven while watching your show - it's like you've been looking over my shoulder!

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

This reminds me I gotta get my sourdough starter off life support!

@robertkerner4833 7 ай бұрын

I think you just summarize, quite excellently, Angel Adams’ “The Negative”. Nicely done

@radavies 2 жыл бұрын

This is such a great video. Until now I've never really understood push / pull development properly. Thanks Mat!

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the comment I'm glad it helped! :)

@dont-want-no-wrench Жыл бұрын

expose for the shadows, develop for the highlights- my teacher used to always say

@MatMarrash Жыл бұрын

You had an excellent teacher!

@key2adventure 2 жыл бұрын

Bought some 60 year expired 4x5 sheet film in 16 piece packs. I pulled them five stops, developed half the normal time. I got rid of the fogging, that was very prominent when shot at box speed, but the results were rather flat. But as I can’t enlarge bigger than 6x7 cm, I scan these sheets and applied extra contrast in post processing, and ended up with decent results. Just goes to show that your ideas of experimenting and choosing your own settings works really well. Thanks for another great LFF video.

@brineb58 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome info, when i first had a photography class in the 70s in college, we were taught to keep the development constant and then adjust exposure!!!

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brian! I agree with your college's approach, good fundamentals in exposure will pay off so much more than changing development, especially when you're new to film.

@jimwlouavl 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. This is the full answer to the question I asked just the other day. Great to learn from the master. Thanks.

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

I think at this rate I'll be a pastry chef before a master! ;)

@jimwlouavl 2 жыл бұрын

@@MatMarrash You are Yoda to my Luke.

@rexypoooo 3 ай бұрын

I love this turns into food newtowrk, and we just vibing. Also, aren't we all wish we can stare into the developing tank like we can with our oven?

@studiosnch 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to get refreshed with how film dev'ing works, even though I know and practice it for 10 years now. And the food analogy is pretty sweet too: I often do that as well when I teach friends or my students about film photography. The baking segue was cool as well; after all, both involve chemistry (and physics), and an apron for great results. And Mat, seeing you progress with your videos here is such a refreshing take. During your early FPP days I really looked forward with your mail replies, as I definitely learned a lot from your answers.

@SilntObsvr 2 жыл бұрын

Nice quick explanation of the part of the Zone System that's sometimes harder to get a grasp on than exposure: expansion and contraction. It's important to remember that expansion doesn't increase the film speed -- your shadows still need just as much light -- but contraction can reduce the speed (because less development reduces density across the whole negative, even if it's less in shadows than in highlights). And when I bake, I prefer bread. Doesn't get my doctor upset with my A1c levels the way scones and cookies would.

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! My bread baking was a little more in practice last year during lock-down. Hot stone pizza is another fun one, a lot like developing with HC-110 dilution A, hot and fast!

@NasserAlhameli Жыл бұрын

Love the explanation! Very simple put ❤! Very clear vid and sound! Thank you

@pastedtomato 2 жыл бұрын

Large format baking!

@alexanderdobroruka8534 2 жыл бұрын

21hrs worth of info squeezed into 21min. Great video. Now I want a scone though fml

@Thursby7181 2 жыл бұрын

The baking analogy is so wonderful. Thank you for the great information!

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you enjoyed the comparison, both can be wonderful processes when given time and practice.

@bnrynlds 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video Mat, good to see the quiff is making a comeback. Long may it flourish!

@tundrusphoto4312 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for these videos. They are great!

@dongxu2059 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see you back with a new season. I was unloading and loading sheets with the changing bag while watching the video. Aaaand suddenly we are in a baking video. Hahahaha, didn't see that coming

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

It's one thing to know the differences in process, and another thing entirely to taste them!

@davidottman9501 2 жыл бұрын

Now I'm hungry for fresh, homemade scones but am short on add-ins... hehe Thanks for the inspiration! We hear a lot about the "exposure triangle" when using digital equipment. When we include flash, it gets expanded to the "exposure diamond." But with film it's more of a pentagram, with development as the fifth corner. It doesn't seem so complicated but there's a lot to balance. Back in the old days before digital, somehow we got by anyway. Thanks for yet another entertaining and informative video!

@chickenitsa 2 жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT general tutorial on [good] exposure and developing technique . . . a particular bravo on your clear explanation -- and importance of -- the characteristic curve. And the baking metaphor is spot on (I've said it for YEARS . . . plus, I bake, too, myself .. In fact, it's curious that a lot of 'old school' photographers cook!)

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Christopher! I think whatever wires get crossed that make us want to take up film photography and large format must lead to a sense of satisfaction when doing other long-form "maker" tasks. ;)

@KirraZirra 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video Matt. Those scones looked delicious! Lol 😋

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike! :)

@AnniE_1000 2 жыл бұрын

wow, soooooo much informations 👍👍👍👍. your knowledge is awesome, and the way you share your knowledge with us is awesome too. keep going, perhaps one day I will understand the whole photography thingie, nobody knows. and please can you bake something for exposure? a lightcake?

@donr8191 2 жыл бұрын

THANKS !!! Great info...presented in a very easy way to understand...especially about N+1 or what N-1 really is and how to adjust development times accordingly. Also perfectly timed info for me as I get back into large format after being away from it for so long (job, marriage, kids, house etc) retired now so lots of time to put back into it...THANKS AGAIN !!!!

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and welcome back to LF! Some of the best photographers I've ever met are retirees since they have the time to commit to their craft.

@explorer6 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info, Mat. BTW, toss some orange zest and dried cherries into you scones... trust me!

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea!!

@andyvan5692 2 жыл бұрын

hey, Mat, nice x-ray image of the tree, just need the gown & gloves!!, "there is your problem sir, a 'broken limb' ".

@derink8523 2 жыл бұрын

Kroger better sponsor this video :) Minor correction: RAW images as seen in camera or with raw editor defaults already have 1) A gamma curve 2 ) A characteristic S curve modeled on historical film photography applied to it, they are not linear. A "flat/scientific" profile would have the gamma curve without so much of the S curve. In the example, you are just boosting the S curve further.

@phillipmurray8848 2 жыл бұрын

Great Mat. Another davantage is you Can componsate for a negotive that you did not shut down the aptitude, and when developing save an 8x10 that was unique. Thanks Mat.

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Good point Phillip, pull developing to the rescue!

@phillipmurray8848 2 жыл бұрын

@@MatMarrash I only had to do this once, but it saved the day.

@tylerfetterman9020 2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of developing, would you be able to and consider doing a video breaking down the average cost of developing at home? Obviously prices will vary, but I think a general break down of cost could help those interested in developing at home and may push some into doing it.

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Really good recommendations!

@oudviola 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, clear explanations as always! Some examples of the same frame with normal, push and pull processing could be helpful by comparing the negatives. I'll have to try that trick of grating in frozen butter!

@colelowery1838 Жыл бұрын

I only came for the baking lol

@NigelHaarstad 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! It's like I'm back in grad school, but way more interesting! :D Seriously though I never understood the impact exposure had on dynamic range/how film responds differently than digital. That is some seriously helpful information. I was wondering why people would purposely over/under expose their shots 😅

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nigel! I'm of the opinion that controlled over/under exposure is a tool more than it is a look or a style. As somebody that sees dozens of rolls of film each week with improper exposure and/or development, I take this part of the process to heart.

@stuartbaines2843 2 жыл бұрын

Scones need - butter, strawberry jam and clotted cream 😋😋 Development advice was Great 👍

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Gonna have to try 'em UK style sometime! :)

@andyvan5692 2 жыл бұрын

good analogy mat, but with photographic developing/printing, we are dealing with acid/bleech and heavy metal salts, as well as sometimes ugly stuff like potassium iodide, and other nasties, so GLOVES & GLASSES are essential to our safety while using these, as well as a thorough knowledge of how to dispose of it safely and what to do if we spill any, or there is a fire.

@LaViejaConsolada 2 жыл бұрын

the soul of the party. xD

@matt-analoguelife 2 жыл бұрын

Scone like 'gone' only the posh southerners in the UK call it a Scone like 'stone'.... ;)

@SidneyPratt Жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@MichaelLloyd 2 жыл бұрын

Like a lot of people, I need to find a few empty 8x10 boxes. Right now all I have is my holders. Lol That was a masterful cut to/from the kitchen! Well done. But just a little cruel not mailing all of us one lol

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Let me know how many boxes you need, happy to ship a few your way!

@MichaelLloyd 2 жыл бұрын

@@MatMarrash Hey Mat, that would be great!! At least two (I don't want to be hog about it). One for color, one for B&W.

@customerbf 2 жыл бұрын

My big question is where do you find all the analog photo themed shirts?

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Besides socks, they're the only things I ask for as gifts. A few years back, Kodak was selling these shirts direct and on Amazon.

@jackyleecs 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your informative video. At 9:30, you mentioned N+ push processing and N- pull processing. Am I correct to say they are not exactly the same as the push/pull processing that we commonly say? Do we keep the chemical concentration the same when doing N+ and N- processing?

@MatMarrash 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jacky any expansion/contraction of development, whether it be by time, temperature, or dilution is considered a Push/Pull. Most commonly when referring to it with commercial processing, the easiest factor to consistently control is time. I don't recommend varying temp and dilution without proper testing.

@JanKratochvilcom Жыл бұрын

As a not a native English speaker I did not understand if pushing (extending of development time) would decrease the contrast or vice versa. Thank you for your great content.

@MatMarrash Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing this out Jan! Exposure sets a limit of how much density can be developed onto the film, while development time controls the contrast of that density. In that case, Pushing = More Contrast, Pulling = Less Contrast.

@JanKratochvilcom Жыл бұрын

@@MatMarrash Thank you so much. You make one of the best stuff about LF on YT I have seen until now. Such an effort. I admire you. Greetings from Czechia, Europe.

@MatMarrash Жыл бұрын

@@JanKratochvilcom Thank you so much for the compliment, I'm really enjoying your TikTok's btw!

@JanKratochvilcom Жыл бұрын

@@MatMarrash thank you so much it empowers me to post more!