Devo - Robert Hilburn interview (1981)

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morrisonAV

morrisonAV

15 жыл бұрын

This interview was conducted by LA Times Pop Critic Robert Hilburn and was aired around Jan/Feb of 1981. I'm not sure which music show it was part of (Casey Casem's American Top 40?) but it featues Jerry Casale and Mark Mothersbaugh answering questions about the uproar that was caused by their latest song, "Whip It".

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@jmcieslak0
@jmcieslak0 11 жыл бұрын
"If the spud fits, wear it" - Mark's input for the entire interview. Love it.
@davidororey1596
@davidororey1596 4 жыл бұрын
So agree! My favorite then Gary Numan, The Tubes, The Cars and on.
@Musicalmane
@Musicalmane Жыл бұрын
I think it was a running joke because I've seen the same situation in other interviews during this time
@unbridledenthusiasm
@unbridledenthusiasm 10 жыл бұрын
Jerry's manner is like this calm rage, and he is so articulate. Truly gifted individuals
@MrBigcityal
@MrBigcityal 6 жыл бұрын
He needs to be testifying to congress with the energy dome on.
@carlodave9
@carlodave9 5 жыл бұрын
Unlike a lot of rebel punk bands at the time, there was nothing adolescent, dim-witted, or idealistic about Devo's message. They were absurd realists. In 2019 we're still living the nightmare they laughed at.
@Margatroid
@Margatroid 2 жыл бұрын
In retrospect I think they were actually very conservative, especially from 1980 on. Look at Jerry's suit here. Maybe they didn't like Reagan at the time, but when you listen to Freedom of Choice you don't hear a record with young guys whining about how unfair life is. You hear a bunch of songs about tragic ironies of life, but also songs about taking responsibility for your own choices and forging your own destiny. Nowadays they claim "Whip It" was an ironic song, which seems defensive to me, like they're trying to maintain their leftist cred. But irony sure didn't make Whip It a hit, and I don't think the song was really ironic at all.
@isaacdebolt3637
@isaacdebolt3637 2 жыл бұрын
@@Margatroid take your schizo pills bud...
@pamelaferrante6165
@pamelaferrante6165 Жыл бұрын
Amen😊
@peterhudson5748
@peterhudson5748 3 жыл бұрын
i love that Hilburn took them deathly seriously, as opposed to 99% of the populous of the time.
@Shikta-poobah67
@Shikta-poobah67 Жыл бұрын
The reason no one (in the media) would take them seriously is because the whole concept of de-evolution was inherently mocking them and the establishment that they represented… so “they had to be a joke”. Time has proven that DEVO were 100% irrefutably *RIGHT* about their theory. They called it right from day one.
@cristianperez2903
@cristianperez2903 2 жыл бұрын
Jerry Casale has always been the most succinct, articulate and thought provoking punk musician, pop-star or whatever you want to call it. Everything he says has weight.
@Turtle152
@Turtle152 11 жыл бұрын
Hilburn keeps calling Devo's videos "films." It was the pre-MTV era, and they hadn't started calling them videos yet.
@Brewzerr
@Brewzerr 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, they had (started using the term ‘music video’). It just wasn’t common everyday vernacular yet, as it would become a year or two later. Still, it wasn’t all that uncommon to hear someone say ‘music video’ before MTV happened. I remember how HBO (then referred to in full as ‘Home Box Office’) used to show music videos during the long breaks between movies in the late 70’s, and most people I knew back then (the ones who had cable at least) called them just that - music videos. I don’t think I ever heard them referred to as ‘films’ until I saw this.
@fuckamericanidiot
@fuckamericanidiot 15 жыл бұрын
devo really are the best geeks ever
@astroalex19
@astroalex19 4 жыл бұрын
Mister Casale has a very clear mind!
@jaypickett3552
@jaypickett3552 2 жыл бұрын
I have friends who had a band that was doing a wedding reception and since “Whip It” had become popular someone in the crowd requested it. The keyboard player knew it and had the whip crack sample so he launched into it and the rest of the band faked their way through it. When they ended the song they were told to pack up their gear, they were done for the night. They still got paid the full amount for the gig.
@CharlieHipHop
@CharlieHipHop 9 жыл бұрын
And may I add, Devo is the greatest rock and roll band of all time.
@scottrudner8834
@scottrudner8834 6 жыл бұрын
CharlieHipHop greatest band period,best rock and rock,best "new wave" obviously, best punk band, BEST FUCKIN ARTIST OF OUR TIME . devo was so fucking punk rock that Mohawks,snarled lips,spikes and being beligerent not needed. the natural anti conformist ,pioneering orignality of devo makes them the actual DEFINITION OF PUNK.
@dailmcdavid5883
@dailmcdavid5883 4 жыл бұрын
God bless the 80s and best NEW WAVE band ever
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 4 жыл бұрын
@Spencer Proctor some people just don't get it.
@andrewbuck171
@andrewbuck171 4 жыл бұрын
I started to dispute this, and then realized I couldn't think of a better one.
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewbuck171 was my thoughts exactly, spud patrol forever!!🤘🤘
@VAHZGEN
@VAHZGEN 4 жыл бұрын
These dudes were ahead of their time. Period.
@doctorhalprinstein
@doctorhalprinstein 13 жыл бұрын
I'm really diggin' Mark's suit.
@roxiestar74
@roxiestar74 7 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@jasheton
@jasheton 2 жыл бұрын
Does this guy look like a sexist?
@occommunitycats7616
@occommunitycats7616 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Mark's suit. I would soooooo wear that!
@theclubunicorn
@theclubunicorn 9 жыл бұрын
We're all DEVO now!
@hardyaudley2560
@hardyaudley2560 10 жыл бұрын
This was from NBC's "The Midnight Special" (February 6, 1981) - the next to last original episode ever.
@henryleeheinonen
@henryleeheinonen 11 жыл бұрын
They're energy domes, goddamnit.
@mournblade1066
@mournblade1066 11 ай бұрын
Hey, Jerry was the one who called it a flower pot.
@henryleeheinonen
@henryleeheinonen 10 ай бұрын
@@mournblade1066 fair enough lol
@SuperPussyFinger
@SuperPussyFinger 6 жыл бұрын
Akron, Ohio is full of artists, deep thinkers, and iconoclasts. It’s no wonder that Devo originated from there.
@tacomadc
@tacomadc 12 жыл бұрын
REVENGE OF THE NERDS!!! Devo was TOTALLY the inspiration for this great movie if you've never seen it though. Stay away from the sequels like the plague though.
@gerardmccavana4905
@gerardmccavana4905 Жыл бұрын
Don't know much about Devo...but always liked them...and now via the wonder of KZfaq etc can hear how intelligent these guys were....Jerry speaks so well
@wiidlbeetle3857
@wiidlbeetle3857 2 жыл бұрын
Love these guys and that they stand for something
@Datsun510zen
@Datsun510zen 6 жыл бұрын
Devo expressed the futility of social norms by mocking everything it held dear. If you don't see that we are de-evolving you are a tater-tot.
@kevmac1230
@kevmac1230 3 жыл бұрын
40 years ago Jerry had the novel opinion that people should have to prove their accusations. How did that work out? Devolution indeed.
@creepyskulldini581
@creepyskulldini581 7 жыл бұрын
Evidently the term "music video" was still not yet in common use in 81 ( "film" )?
@Brewzerr
@Brewzerr 5 жыл бұрын
MTV was still another 6 or 7 months away at this time... but yes. People did use the term ‘music video’ at this point. It just wasn’t common everyday vernacular yet, like it would be a couple of years later.
@User-xw6kd
@User-xw6kd 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was surprised when the interviewer said "film" haha.
@foxcrane9486
@foxcrane9486 2 жыл бұрын
I believe you're right about the date. This interview appears to have been from the music show known as "The Midnight Special" - Season 9, Episode 19, dated February 6, 1981. The listing for that episode indicates it included Devo's "Whip It" along with a Robert Hillburn interview of the band.
@giogambino4520
@giogambino4520 5 жыл бұрын
I was in middle school in 1981 and seen them at a autograph signing event...badass band-new wave rocked!!
@stevec5436
@stevec5436 6 жыл бұрын
Great interview and good to see. Growing up in Australia we did not have the opportunity to see things like when they were occurring, but good to see some of the controversy "Whip It" caused! Truely, "If the spud fits, wear it!" ;-)
@derekwilliams1660
@derekwilliams1660 5 жыл бұрын
I got into Devo in the mid nineties when I was in high school. When people were listening to Nine Inch Nails and Tool,I was listening to a lot of eighties stuff that at the time wasn't cool.
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186 3 жыл бұрын
.......so you’re Through Being Cool then? ☃️
@christiem1742
@christiem1742 3 жыл бұрын
Tool lead singer Maynard James Keenan named his son Devo. Read that in a comment recently and verified it to be true. So it seems the kids listening to Tool and you listening to Devo kind of had something in common. Kinda cool.
@PatrickSantos-sn8ox
@PatrickSantos-sn8ox 9 ай бұрын
If you like NiN ....I'd think you'd be intelligent enough to understand DEVO.....or thier fans....
@GazmoSin1960s
@GazmoSin1960s 8 жыл бұрын
"I mean does this guy look like a sexist?" That cracked me up because, I mean really, just look at Mark. Ha ha.
@Margatroid
@Margatroid 2 жыл бұрын
He looks like a dorky reject from the 1970s mod scene in that jacket, lol.
@TwiPrime
@TwiPrime 10 ай бұрын
Rockin' the doublebreasted big houndstooth print pantsuit!! ❤️
@missopan
@missopan 11 жыл бұрын
He looks really sofisticated and clever in that hat..
@simonbarber2098
@simonbarber2098 Жыл бұрын
One of the most underrated bands ever. Without doubt both Mark and Gerry intellectual geniuses
@look4birds622
@look4birds622 4 жыл бұрын
Love this interview so apropos especially now BRILLIANT
@Lizrose03
@Lizrose03 5 жыл бұрын
Mark looks thrilled to be there
@suggoz
@suggoz 4 жыл бұрын
Devo = The best punk band ever! So so, good!
@OrchardcottagefarmCo
@OrchardcottagefarmCo 4 жыл бұрын
Very articulate and thoughtful guy.
@literacylabyrinth4018
@literacylabyrinth4018 3 жыл бұрын
Devo are always cool even in Interviews
@thecitizenjoan
@thecitizenjoan 5 жыл бұрын
Yo Gabba Gabba makes so much more sense now
@AndieZ4U2
@AndieZ4U2 3 жыл бұрын
These guys saw the future.
@mxvalentina
@mxvalentina 3 ай бұрын
I love these guys
@SidneyBroadshead
@SidneyBroadshead 2 жыл бұрын
It's from *The Midnight Special* [Season 9, Episode 19; Feb 6, 1981 NBC]
@foxxyloxx
@foxxyloxx 11 жыл бұрын
2:26 -3:13 SO fucking smart & eloquent. Smh.
@ranatlas
@ranatlas 7 жыл бұрын
It's all up to our Bob Dobbs.
@thomasdudley4558
@thomasdudley4558 7 жыл бұрын
mark is the one you notice the space age buddy holly love em!
@justincase4812
@justincase4812 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine that an interviewer who is genuinely interested in a band's ideas.
@stapler942
@stapler942 11 жыл бұрын
"Dreamed I laid a toaster/Daddy caught me in the act/Can you take it?"
@markraza9762
@markraza9762 8 жыл бұрын
devo rule!!!!!!!!!!! .
@levondevian5684
@levondevian5684 6 жыл бұрын
Best Band Ever!!!
@AndieZ4U2
@AndieZ4U2 Жыл бұрын
"Very seldom does an artist have a voice concerning the accusations made against him."
@savannadawkins7532
@savannadawkins7532 Жыл бұрын
legends
@TeaRiker
@TeaRiker 9 ай бұрын
You just have to love them
@soren1850
@soren1850 5 жыл бұрын
Love me some Devo!
@gongshow3045
@gongshow3045 3 жыл бұрын
Houndstooth FTW
@tooties545
@tooties545 3 жыл бұрын
2:10 Great quotes in modern history
@DylanKarbo
@DylanKarbo 5 жыл бұрын
"Does this guy look like a sexist?" lol
@Turtle152
@Turtle152 11 жыл бұрын
It happened in the "Satisfaction" video.
@hakonosatowakugai7256
@hakonosatowakugai7256 3 жыл бұрын
I think they were talking about the video, it goofs on S & M. That video got aired on daytime tv. Children saw it OMG!
@MrMiister
@MrMiister 14 жыл бұрын
genius
@granudisimo
@granudisimo 9 жыл бұрын
Dats an actual eff bomb for the caption sounded like a friggen` bomb
@Nigelxman
@Nigelxman 12 жыл бұрын
You have a lot of catching up to do. :-)
@mkitty5333
@mkitty5333 Жыл бұрын
Genius. Today n forever annoying ppl dictate what is what they consider wrong yet the rule don’t apply to all
@user-sp6jk3zz5b
@user-sp6jk3zz5b 5 ай бұрын
The Whip It video is still controversial 43 years later
@jojomcgee3430
@jojomcgee3430 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how times have changed where this was once deemed perverse LOL
@jasheton
@jasheton 2 жыл бұрын
If the goddamn spud fits, wear it!! Fuckin Mark and Gerry are awesome.
@foxxyloxx
@foxxyloxx 11 жыл бұрын
@stapler942 Your comment made me lol. I tip my energy dome to you, good sir.
@jogmas12
@jogmas12 3 жыл бұрын
Sense of humor? Wonder what Zappa thought of Devo?
@TheLeevoy
@TheLeevoy 3 жыл бұрын
This video painfully foreshadowed cancel culture nearly 40 years before its rise. Though, in an ironic twist of fate, it's no longer just the ideological, self-righteous right that wants to censor what it deems inappropriate. The ideological, militant left too now is calling out what it finds problematic. Oftentimes missing the nuance of the art itself and that it usually represents a critical deconstruction versus an endorsement. Devolution remains relevant. Devo was obviously moderately liberal for their time but you can just see how much the political spectrum has shifted in 40 years. 2021 left makes 1981 left seem like center-right at the very least 😅
@morrisonAV
@morrisonAV 3 жыл бұрын
Very well stated.
@JHarder1000
@JHarder1000 3 жыл бұрын
"We need more Outer Space music like Devo": Leon Russell
@algallego
@algallego 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone elaborate or provide some insight on what he meant by TNA commercials or sitcoms?
@joeyoungs8426
@joeyoungs8426 2 жыл бұрын
Tits & Ass. We all know (or at least recognize) that sex sells.
@mournblade1066
@mournblade1066 11 ай бұрын
"T&A," short for "tits & ass."
@kookadams85
@kookadams85 3 жыл бұрын
Devo was/is just as much punk as new wave.
@stapler942
@stapler942 11 жыл бұрын
Several cowboys at home fell over, or possibly they all simultaneously fired at Jerry on-screen.
@jimmymartin8075
@jimmymartin8075 6 жыл бұрын
same lesson over and over disregard haters have your fun grow old and be content you chose wisely
@vinny9708
@vinny9708 3 жыл бұрын
That's Mark's giglio outfit
@josejones7025
@josejones7025 3 ай бұрын
A slick product, which we are NOT!
@Notecrusher
@Notecrusher 13 жыл бұрын
What video are they talking about?
@suz5862
@suz5862 3 жыл бұрын
Whip it
@octangula7914
@octangula7914 5 жыл бұрын
Jerry looks like Reviewbrah here
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 4 жыл бұрын
If the spud fits, wear it. 😆
@lewcrowley3710
@lewcrowley3710 11 ай бұрын
DEVO big fan...whatever this is...
@31446963048
@31446963048 2 жыл бұрын
Edward Norton could play casales in a Devo film
@warmswarm
@warmswarm 3 жыл бұрын
It's Bill and Ben the flowerpot men.
@carmensandiego7749
@carmensandiego7749 Жыл бұрын
Considering that Jerry just had his first child at 74 after marrying someone young enough to be his granddaughter ( his wife is 41 years younger) there's nothing more patriarchal than that. It's not the opposite of sexist. And when he married in 2015 on September 11, they chose a tacky 9-11 theme. Now that's irony. I'm sure he wouldn't find it funny if someone poked fun of the Kent State shootings, so he ended up apologizing but blaming "a friend with bad taste" for the twin towers wedding cake.
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186 Жыл бұрын
The events you so accurately described are pretty cringeworthy. Especially for a DEVO fan like myself. Devolution indeed. 🙈🙉🙊🥔🥔🥔 Jerry took a fair amount of heat for his Jihad Jerry and the Evildoers album “Mine is not a Holy War” which was inspired by the events of 9*11. Pretty decent album nevertheless. 💿
@carmensandiego7749
@carmensandiego7749 Жыл бұрын
@@xyrzmxyzptlk1186 I know. I've always been a fan too. But I have never listened to his Jihad Jerry album.
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186 Жыл бұрын
@@carmensandiego7749- It’s on KZfaq. Check it out. 📺
@mlovmo
@mlovmo 11 жыл бұрын
What's the "toaster incident"?
@lukechandra6233
@lukechandra6233 6 жыл бұрын
devo's video for the song "satisfaction" was banned because it showed someone sticking a fork into a toaster. lol
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186
@xyrzmxyzptlk1186 3 жыл бұрын
The toaster wasn’t even plugged in. Devo adheres to all safety protocols. They even wear safety helmets. 🎸
@TheSyconerd
@TheSyconerd 10 жыл бұрын
seriously what the fuck is mark looking at throughout the entire interview
@sanicyouth6540
@sanicyouth6540 8 жыл бұрын
+TheSyconerd Way past cool. Someone who is a Sonic The Hedgehog fan as well as a Devo fan. :)
@missopan
@missopan 12 жыл бұрын
How the fuck could anyone actually think that "whip it" was about sex??..
@Brewzerr
@Brewzerr 5 жыл бұрын
No, not literally about sex, but there is an element of truth (to the song’s actual meaning) in the video. Gerry Casale once explained the song’s origins in a 1995 interview, and said it all came from some old pamphlet from the early 60’s he found, for some dude ranch in Arizona, where the highlight for every guest’s stay was watching the dude ranch’s owner literally bullwhip the clothes off of his wife. Is that overtly sexual? No, not in today’s context... but there is more than a bit of innuendo involved there, that’s so utterly absurd and funny that DEVO could not resist making parody of it. Apparently, blatant, humorless sex is ok for Joe Q. Public... but sexual parody is a big no-no.
@mournblade1066
@mournblade1066 11 ай бұрын
@@Brewzerr No, not quite. That's where the VIDEO came from. The song itself is a take on those "motivational" phrases, such as, "When the going gets tough, the tough get going." "When a problem comes along, you must whip it." Jerry said that people thought it was about sex, so they then came up with the ridiculous video as a joke.
@fantasie
@fantasie 14 жыл бұрын
his finger's pointed at de-vo
@n0denz
@n0denz 6 жыл бұрын
It's depressing that Mark went on to literally become part of the advertisement industry.
@Brewzerr
@Brewzerr 5 жыл бұрын
Why? I mean, don’t get me wrong... I fucking HATE that industry, but Alan is gone. Bob2 is gone. General Boy is gone. DEVO has already run it’s course (the beginning WAS the end, after all). So, why shouldn’t a man of Mark M’s talents find a more lucrative avenue to apply himself to before he retires? Besides, he has always been one of the most SUBVERSIVE artists in modern history, so it’s not outside the realm of possibility that he might just be doing one giant piss-take on the advertising industry.
@SidneyBroadshead
@SidneyBroadshead 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Mothersbough has never compromised his vision. He may have mellowed in old age from the angry young man he was, but he always does what he wants. Plus, DEVO always sold products: look at the energy domes and the album-themed clothing items. They just did it cynically.
@fernandorayos3491
@fernandorayos3491 3 жыл бұрын
Aware individuals. Wake up
@OugaBoogaShockwave
@OugaBoogaShockwave 2 жыл бұрын
lol 😆😆😆😆👌💯
@TheMonkeydick
@TheMonkeydick 13 жыл бұрын
@MezzanotteCorvo Mark is!!! wait Im a duuuuude!?!?!? AAAUUUGHHH!!!
@GlorifiedTruth
@GlorifiedTruth 14 жыл бұрын
LOL. I grew up in L.A., and Robert Hilburn was the crappiest critic ever! Good to see him playing it straight.
@occommunitycats7616
@occommunitycats7616 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍
@moniquedebont6421
@moniquedebont6421 5 жыл бұрын
Devo is funny. The music is funny.
@yellowjackboots2624
@yellowjackboots2624 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how?
@TheGreatAlan75
@TheGreatAlan75 4 жыл бұрын
How could humans have avoided all the trappings? Our highly evolved brains are our downfall. As soon as the first human invented the barter system, it was the beginning of the end. ALL human problems come down to money. Poverty, greed, violence, competition, class, inequality, socio- resentments, technology, nuclear technology, h-bombs, politics, religion, global warming...... IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY .. money makes the world go down
@mathewblackman2794
@mathewblackman2794 4 жыл бұрын
Think CHOP/CHAZ - these guys were 50 years ahead of their time.
@saltybishop1763
@saltybishop1763 11 жыл бұрын
0:53 Did someone die?
@SetFire2TheNightSky
@SetFire2TheNightSky 5 жыл бұрын
SUBURBAN ROBOTS THAT MONITOR REALITY...
@vmastereadg
@vmastereadg 3 жыл бұрын
That one dude looks like he could be related to Chester Bennington.
@suz5862
@suz5862 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have anything else to contribute?
@TheJohnRowley
@TheJohnRowley 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if prior to this interview starting Jerry and Mark agreed Jerry would do all the talking for this so Mark could have a break from explaining
@Mucving
@Mucving 5 жыл бұрын
Jerry is the ideological motor behind Devo.
@carldavis1407
@carldavis1407 3 ай бұрын
Are we not men? 😎
@GlorifiedTruth
@GlorifiedTruth 11 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the L.A. area, and we considered Robert Hilburn to be the biggest douche on the planet. Lots of people did! It's interesting to see him in person.
@occommunitycats7616
@occommunitycats7616 2 жыл бұрын
Me too & yes! I would open up the LA Times and wonder what kind of bullshit Hillburn was saying this week
@GlorifiedTruth
@GlorifiedTruth 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Hilburn was one of the worst critics who ever lived, but he does a good job with this interview.
@joanpelpinosas
@joanpelpinosas 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah but i think Mr. J. Casale is doing the talking. :D I remember how I used to wear glasses in college. haha!
@petejones879
@petejones879 11 ай бұрын
Jerry looks like Frank Sinatra
@Robebabu
@Robebabu 2 жыл бұрын
...forum...for, um...
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