DH4 Guide - Derail Valley Simulator

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An in-depth look at the new DH4 Diesel Hydraulic loco available in Derail Valley Simulator closed beta.
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@TheTwoTwelve
@TheTwoTwelve Жыл бұрын
For anyone who doesn't know: this is basically how most automatic car transmissions work. Sure, there are some dual clutch and eCVT hybrids that work differently, but most traditional "slushbox" autos use a hydraulic torque converter.
@BrokenSet
@BrokenSet Жыл бұрын
Right, and this is the same sort of principle that goes into fluid clutches, or more specifically, viscous differentials. The latter is how I wrapped my head around this tech.
@Ewiggrimmig
@Ewiggrimmig Жыл бұрын
Not quite. An automatic car has only one torque converter and a planetary gear box to provide different ratios. This Loco has three torque converters with different ratios. The DM3 diesel mechanical locomotive should be closest to a automatic car (motor -> torque converter/fluid clutch -> gear box -> wheels) only that the gear changes are done manually.
@ChaseB1896
@ChaseB1896 Жыл бұрын
@@Ewiggrimmig He was talking specifically about the mechanics of the torque converter. Not the mechanics from the crankshaft -> wheels. No need to get overly specific when he wasn't even talking about that. He's right that the concept of the torque converter of the DH4 is exactly how they work in automotive torque converters.
@brunoais
@brunoais Жыл бұрын
@@Ewiggrimmig @TheTwoTwelve was just providing some general concept to create some basic association in people who are clueless. Not the complete thing.
@TheTwoTwelve
@TheTwoTwelve Жыл бұрын
​@@Ewiggrimmig I probably could've been more precise. You are correct that automobiles with a torque converter almost always only have one to connect the gearbox to the wheels, but the point is that in both a traditional automobile and this particular locomotive the engine drives a hydraulic torque converter that drives the wheels.
@jocking3b510
@jocking3b510 Жыл бұрын
Namings in the game seems straightforward enough. DE2 - Diesel-electric, 2 axles DE6 - Diesel-electric, 6 axles DH4 - Diesel-hydraulic, 4 axles DM3 - Diesel-mechanic, 3 axles
@pranavghantasala6808
@pranavghantasala6808 Жыл бұрын
And also: SH282 - Steam, 2-8-2 wheel arrangement
@kornaros96
@kornaros96 Жыл бұрын
@@pranavghantasala6808 SuperHeated 2-8-2
@MichaelDeSanta.
@MichaelDeSanta. Жыл бұрын
@@pranavghantasala6808 Dont forget the upcoming SH060 for wich we surprisingly dont have any footage.
@diegokevin3824
@diegokevin3824 Жыл бұрын
just one titpick, the diesel name only references powered axles, as the future railbus will be named DM1P/DM1M (Diesel-Mechanical 1 powered axle Passenger/Mail)
@ShadowRaptor42
@ShadowRaptor42 Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDeSanta. SH stands for Steam Heavy the 282 and 060 have been renamed to the S282 and S060
@Drruuiipp
@Drruuiipp Жыл бұрын
I love that suspension swaying, I can barely contain myself
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
Yep it's a separate feature in itself. Devs overhauled the suspension for all vehicles and this also prevents glitch derails due to contacts being rigidly simulated.
@realsimpilot8221
@realsimpilot8221 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video again, as always. I noticed 2 things in Your coupling habits, that I have learned differently in my time as a loco driver like 10 years ago. So my knowledge is a bit faded now but I think it still applies here: 1st: always couple the hook first, break lines afterwards. Because the hook is Your means to secure the cars. The lines do the opposite. And 2nd: never use the loco's coupling unless the car's is broken. Because repairing a loco is way more expensive than fixing a car. I hope that makes sense. TC & Thx 4 Your cool vids. :)
@DecidelyUnethical
@DecidelyUnethical Жыл бұрын
And never manually disconnect the airhoses unless you like getting thwacked in the nethers.
@realsimpilot8221
@realsimpilot8221 Жыл бұрын
@@DecidelyUnethical There are safe ways and then there are those, You'll do only once. 😅
@terrywilliams450
@terrywilliams450 Жыл бұрын
Technically you can do anything but always open the air line last. Shunter here :^)
@damianstalker4266
@damianstalker4266 Жыл бұрын
I've been actualy using car's couplers myself for lets say... "roleplay" reasons so it's great to hear that it is a actual practise. I've noticed tho that this game have a weard habbit of swiching them around sometimes for some reason while maintaining actual conection.
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
While hooking physical connection before the air lines simply makes more sense (from the roleplay standpoint), I don't think the game models which hook comes from where, and the coupling is treated as an independent thing. It's either on or off, there are no malfunctions. This is reinforced by the behavior @damianstalker4266 observed, where the game doesn't care about it either, and I'm absolutely sure they would give the car hooks a priority if it mattered.
@legitscoper3259
@legitscoper3259 Жыл бұрын
Very cool to play, as someone who drives the real Locomotive iRL (German V90 Family of Locomotive classes)
@NapierDeltic9012
@NapierDeltic9012 Жыл бұрын
Finally the new diesel!
@NapierDeltic9012
@NapierDeltic9012 Жыл бұрын
So excited to watch
@Hirndille
@Hirndille Жыл бұрын
The torque converter also fills up when the throttle is up and empties when the throttle is down, so the "connecting" fluid is not uselessly sloshed around when idling
@sourzebra9289
@sourzebra9289 Жыл бұрын
Finally seeing this locomotive in depth after all the teasers, wonder what the new steam locomotive is gonna look like.
@ElderonAnalas
@ElderonAnalas Жыл бұрын
same, i hear it's a tank engine, so no tender and all the weight is kept on the drivers, but i'm sure it will be smaller, it's either an 060 or a 260. i already forget and i'm too lazy to check the discord rn. but, very exciteed, i'm just sad i'll be working the weeken of release so it will be the 3rd or 4th when i actually get to play with the new toys
@sourzebra9289
@sourzebra9289 Жыл бұрын
@@ElderonAnalas Not what I was expecting but if it is a 060 I wont be disappointed and also I asked altfuture in one of thier teaser videos if the sh282 would have a working bell and they replied saying it would.
@sasquatchhadarock968
@sasquatchhadarock968 Жыл бұрын
The game currently lets you buy a license for an 0-6-0, but it haven't seen it yet
@ElderonAnalas
@ElderonAnalas Жыл бұрын
@@sasquatchhadarock968 road map / patch notes say it will come out in the following weeks
@Brotherdot
@Brotherdot Жыл бұрын
DH4 requires a few additional licenses; I believe it is train length 1+2. So, it is a bit more expensive than DM3, which has no license-requirements. 30k for DM3 and 80k total for DH4.
@wulphgaming8347
@wulphgaming8347 Жыл бұрын
The torque is higher when starting out because generally speaking Hydraulic fluid is non compressable. So the force or pressure of the fluid will be higher, therefore creating more torque exerted. As the wheel speed increases the pressure will drop in the hydraulic system as it takes less force to keep the wheel moving then to get it moving and then less torque is required.
@riccolooser8395
@riccolooser8395 Жыл бұрын
That's the one, I've been waiting for: the diesel hydraulic loco. This kind of transmission really fascinates me. The fact, that you can use oil to transmit the power and torque to get a train moving... It's just so cool. It does take a while though to understand the principle...😅 Now, onto the loco: I must say, the simulation is quite good. I know the reallife example of these locos all too well (german V90/V60 for the cab). I work for DB Cargo and I'm currently learning how to operate the V90. There are of course some differences: The most important beeing, that the diesel engine can indeed return to idle speed while the loco moves, because the torque converter can be filled and emptied with oil. Also, in reallife, these engines are not equipped with dynamic breaking. Though, in some situations, we wish they were.:) But, as I said, the simulation here already is quite good. Well done, developers, well done. Thank you so much for bringing our reallife workhorse into this game! And thank you, Squirrel for showing it off!:)
@HampshireVideo
@HampshireVideo Жыл бұрын
Hymeks, Warships & Westerns
@stormshadow_6477
@stormshadow_6477 Жыл бұрын
I wish they'd implement this filling and emptying of the converters for idle (as far as I can tell it does simulate this while power is applied), but I suppose that might take something away from the gameplay aspect...
@marvinl8519
@marvinl8519 7 ай бұрын
Findest du gelungen? Ich muss sagen, alleine dass es hier drei Wandler sind, ist in meinen Augen sinnbefreit. Warum? Wir fahren doch auch 80 km/h mit unseren zwei Wandlern. Ich muss sagen, ich komme mit der echten V90 besser klar beim rangieren als mit der DH4 bei Derail Valley :D Gut, in Echt haben wir ja auch einen Fahrbremsschalter der mit einer Hand Bremse und Leistung macht, aber so Details triggern mich doch ein wenig... Edit: stell dir vor wir müssten in Echt ständig unsere Augen auf die Getriebeöltemperatur kleben. Ich würde keinen Zug mehr durch die ZBA ziehen können, weil ich nur da hin starren würde. Wofür gibt's denn den großen Lüfter vorne, wenn das bei Derail Valley einfach weggelassen wird? Grüße von einem Lrf aus Seelze.
@linkmanplays
@linkmanplays Жыл бұрын
Surprised they didn't model in that at idle it's still putting power to the wheels if only slightly. So if you backed off fully from the breaks it would roll in the direction you have selected if just a bit. (This doesn't factor in if the vehicle is heavy enough that the output provided at idle is enough to overcome the weight.)
@hugos5114
@hugos5114 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the vehicle i guess, the DH i have operated does not move when the engine is idling.
@riccolooser8395
@riccolooser8395 Жыл бұрын
That's the point, where the simulation is not entirely correct. The torque converter is not filled the entire time on reallife locos. When the loco is standing still, the converter is empty. When you operate the power handle, the converter is filled partially at first, then filled completely with fluid. However, depending on the position of the power handle, the speed of the diesel engine does not increase yet. For example: the german V100 has fifteen notches of power. In notches one and two, the converter is partially filled and the engine speed remains at idle. From notch three onwards, the converter is fully filled and the engine speed increases with each notch. The reallife counterpart of the loco in the game, which would be the german V90, is operated a little different, but the same principle applies. I hope, this was understandable. Understanding this kind of transmission is not very easy. It took me a while, too.:)
@XxAdminChllaxX
@XxAdminChllaxX Жыл бұрын
On real locos, the first position of the throttile lever is a "fill" position. In this position, the converter is filled with liquid and you should only apply acutal power after filling is done. On some locos there is a special light for this that indicates when the filling is done.
@zedvargplays
@zedvargplays Жыл бұрын
Now this locomotive have me pumped up. just waiting for the release!
@Frankestein01nl
@Frankestein01nl Жыл бұрын
Looking fowards to commence training as the end of this month. Thanks so much for the explanations!
@benduker
@benduker Жыл бұрын
Wow, perfect timing! Just finished your DE2 / DE6 video, went back to the KZfaq home page, and saw you had posted this video. Cheers!
@Bonbon1948
@Bonbon1948 Жыл бұрын
Don't be shy to add a picture / schematic / diagram when you explain something like the torque converter. Thank you Squirrel.
@mrcreebert7829
@mrcreebert7829 Жыл бұрын
Finally we get to see a more in depth look at the interior! Crazy how much new stuff this update adds
@allie-873
@allie-873 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY some good traction, Diesel Hydraulics are so fun to drive irl
@willhorton5991
@willhorton5991 Жыл бұрын
these updated was well worth the wait
@Dmahon247
@Dmahon247 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing all these videos they're very informative and I'm looking forward to this update!
@salikaa86
@salikaa86 11 ай бұрын
Important to note, this loco is in theory compatible with DE2 through MU cable connection, possible to hook it up to DE2 and work with it. However this has a very different notch-torque mapping, in low notch almost no torque, you need to rev it up to work. Meanwhile DE2 needs to stay in low notch until amps go lower otherwise it overheats. Tried to take a 1000 ton 4 job consist from harbor to MF using a DH4 and a DE2 (was no other DH4 in the HB and I have no DE6 licence in the new game). No joy, stalled out on the first hill. Then gave it an other DE2, yet 2xDE2+DH4 (2x400+800=1600 ton rated) not able to move the train properly. The only way to move the train with 3 engines was to detach DH4 from the MU consist and control it separately using remote. I remember in Overhauled I did this trip, cca. 1000 ton train with 4xDE2, was just as painful as it is now :) (DE2 is not fit for road jobs...)
@lsswappedcessna
@lsswappedcessna 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I wouldn't think the DE2 and DE6 would be compatible with this locomotive at all, the power mapping is too different. The DE2 just overheats too much to use it with something other than a DE2 or the Slug (and even using it with the slug is barely adequate for OTR). The DE6 uses so much fuel that you're probably best off pairing it with the Slug for extra towing, or another DE6 if you absolutely need the speed. Two DH4s together would be a very powerful (and very fuel drinking) combination pre-DE6, though. I may have to try it for shits and giggles.
@wazthatme
@wazthatme Жыл бұрын
Thank you for going over all this I had a know how of how to run the engine but its good to understand why it works
@Blindy_The_Bat
@Blindy_The_Bat Жыл бұрын
I’m so excited to start driving some new trains!
@sirgagalot5009
@sirgagalot5009 Жыл бұрын
I really don't know how but I had figured out it works like that. In my head made sense. Thank you for the teaching!
@kroysteamvr
@kroysteamvr Жыл бұрын
Great fun in VR. Looking forward to the new release. Thanks for the vid.
@Aspire198
@Aspire198 5 ай бұрын
Torque converters are bloody clever, the secret is a stator disc that sits in between the turbine and the impeller. During stall ( the greatest difference in speed) the fluid coming out the turbine hits the stator, kinda creates a 'ground effect' kinda deal ( when helicopters/planes are close to the ground) then as the speeds start to match, the stator is 1 way clutched so it can start spinning with the fluid instead of sitting in the way
@volkerklass7741
@volkerklass7741 11 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks a lot! Just the right amount of tech details for me to understand how this loco works, now I'm off to give her a spin on the tracks :)
@milantodorovic4034
@milantodorovic4034 Жыл бұрын
The DM3 and DH4 are great additions to derail valley
@Vanta_Blue
@Vanta_Blue Жыл бұрын
It feels like this is going to be my go to locomotive, just because I feel it's neat.
@0ptera
@0ptera Жыл бұрын
I'd take dh4 over de6 any day. Clear view of the track and important dials like breaks are not way out of sight. A little disappointing the cab doesn't look like a German V100.
@FabiaLp
@FabiaLp Жыл бұрын
It's a mix of a V90 Body and a V60 cab with a fictional, but slightly related to V90 interior....
@0ptera
@0ptera Жыл бұрын
@@FabiaLp I can see the inspiration from a V90 or V60.
@TeimonKauppa739
@TeimonKauppa739 Жыл бұрын
​@@0pteravolvo v90 volvo v60
@artswri
@artswri Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a concise but comprehensive leeson on the DH4!
@LHA675
@LHA675 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, can´t wait to the update. Thanks for the update. Nice Locomotive.
@I-LOG
@I-LOG Жыл бұрын
Excited to see the DM3, I love diesels with side rods!
@hunterneitzel3012
@hunterneitzel3012 11 ай бұрын
Looks cool, license is cheaper(30000 credits) than the dh4 license (50000 credits), it's cheaper to fix, and it pulls more than de2. One problem, the dm3 might be a nightmare to drive, as you have to manually shift gears using two shifters a, and b.high gear at low speed stalls the engine, low gear at high speed blows up the engine. Not to mention you can not run the dm3 as a multiple unit or drive it with remote control due to the manual transmission, and lack of dynamic braking, instead there's the engine brake, but the throttle must be disengaged (set to idle,) or else you'll blow the engine. Shift pattern as follows: 1a-1b>1a-2b>2a-1b>2a-2b>3a-1b>3a2b>3a-3b. It has no clutch, so before shifting disengage the throttle(set throttle to idle). It's more powerful than de2 but less powerful than dh4, de6, and the steam engine
@panzermensch4136
@panzermensch4136 Жыл бұрын
I love how the locomotive is modelled after the german V100 Diesel Hydraulic Locomotive which is one of my favourite locomotives of all time! Amazing Video, im really hyped for the Update!
@rizalardiansyah4486
@rizalardiansyah4486 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was the DB 212. apparently they are quite similar it fooled me 😅
@panzermensch4136
@panzermensch4136 Жыл бұрын
@@rizalardiansyah4486 the V100 and the Baureihe 212 Are the same locomotive but different name, when the Deutsche Bundesbahn and the Deutsche Reichsbahn became one company, after the Berlin Wall has fallen, they renamed all locomotives.
@miniadler
@miniadler Жыл бұрын
Die 212 ist nicht nur die DR V100, sondern auch eine DB Maschine, die ehemalige V100.20, entwickelt als stärkere Variante der V100 für Hauptstreckenbetrieb...
@tobifricke86
@tobifricke86 Жыл бұрын
Looks more like V90 to me
@panzermensch4136
@panzermensch4136 Жыл бұрын
@@tobifricke86 id say the V90 is much longer than this locomotive, the V100 has a shorter engine bay
@DNHarris
@DNHarris Жыл бұрын
Nice run-through Squirrel.
@SmackyTheB3AR
@SmackyTheB3AR Жыл бұрын
I had no idea it was possible to have a dynamic brake on a diesel-hydraulic. Thanks for explaining that, so it sounds like it uses the "transmission" to turn the kinetic energy into heat, which is dissipated by the radiator fans. Very few diesel-hydraulic locos made it to North America, so it was always more of a novelty over here.
@TheBod76
@TheBod76 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video!
@wzb521
@wzb521 11 ай бұрын
As a beginner, I had mastered both the DE2 and the DM3, but this beast gave me a hard time driving uphill under load, even though it's simpler to drive than the DM3. The tutorial confused me saying "up to 700 rpm" but now I know that you can push it hard to the limits as long as it does not overheat. Thank you so much for this lesson, now driving the DH4 has become a piece of cake.
@wiawaysb
@wiawaysb 4 ай бұрын
i mean why would you not push anything to the limit as long as it does not overheat?
@therebornnewb0980
@therebornnewb0980 Жыл бұрын
6:55 "Hows this engine work?" "Don't worry about it."
@Satoog
@Satoog Жыл бұрын
My new favourite machine I think … looking forward to it. Thanks much, awesome as usual!! Hope it’s just another shunter and copay is still $100.
@vityke
@vityke 11 ай бұрын
Oh my god i want this game! KZfaq randomly dropped me but i started to watch and now i'm thinking to buy it on Steam. Geez this is the best and most detailed train sim i ever seen. I played a lot with Dovetail's, and earlier MSTS and Trainz but this is something different. I keep watching all the related videos.
@spicylemon2623
@spicylemon2623 Жыл бұрын
This is my new favourite engine!
@mariebcfhs9491
@mariebcfhs9491 7 ай бұрын
the torque converter's impeller and turbine are shaped so that when there is an rpm difference the oil will flow in a circle, so the oil goes from the impeller spinning fast, hits the slow moving turbine, and loops itself back through the impeller to be sped up again. The higher the rpm difference, the faster the oil loops and the more "times" it multiplies the torque.
@junkiexl86
@junkiexl86 9 ай бұрын
DH4 has quickly become my favorite loco in Derail.
@Ravakeksis
@Ravakeksis 11 ай бұрын
I find this one to be great when you just want kick back and enjoy the ride
@daverybigboyd1202
@daverybigboyd1202 Жыл бұрын
My wait has ended now I’m happy
@schuttrostig5729
@schuttrostig5729 Жыл бұрын
Woahhh love this one right away. Always thought the de6 is to big for me, this one looks phantastic mix from being more potent than the small ones but more handy than the big boy. What i dont like is that we dont have an engine oil and engine water temp, but i can still hope they will add some more stuff in the future (more brreakers, more gauges, more temps/mechanical gadgets to play with)
@izaiahschlosser4512
@izaiahschlosser4512 4 ай бұрын
So think of a torque converter like 2 fans. Leave one off but turn on the other one and the fan that is off will start to spin a bit. Obviosly its a little more complicated but think that with some very thick fluid in there that moves a lot of mass. The spinning fan is the engine side and the fan thats off is the driven side (drives the vehicle)
@johnm9263
@johnm9263 11 ай бұрын
What im seeing is that what people are calling a "slushbox" is actually a fluid/hydraulic coupling (the fluid itself is the connection, rather than a clutch) What squirrel said about the DM3 was actually a MECHANICAL or clutch coupling Hence why hydraulic and mechanical respectively "Slushbox" is slang for "i don't want to use the proper definition for it, because i see it like this" because when a torque converter is low on fluid, it will feel like "slush" in a "box", hence "slushbox" Think of it like this A CV joint is "constant velocity" meaning that it throughout the joint, it stays at a constant rotational velocity, rather than a "universal" joint regardless of its angle A "universal" joint can be used in almost all applications, so its use is "universal" because it has an infinite range of angles that the joint itself can handle compared to how a "CV" joint needs certain criteria or space to slide that may not fit in the same area, for the same required stresses applied A "torque converter" takes the engine's "torque" and "converts" it to hydraulic movement, which "converts" it to mechanical movement on the other side Etc.
@Rakkeyal
@Rakkeyal 11 ай бұрын
If dropping the throttle makes the difference negative and begins to slow the loco, what is best practice to maintain speed? keep the throttle engaged slightly?
@RHaenJarr
@RHaenJarr Жыл бұрын
Ahhh can't wait!
@user-hj3cv8jt6w
@user-hj3cv8jt6w 8 ай бұрын
Well I think dh4 is like Siemens desiro dmu because when you throttle up the rpm goes to one value and then drops and continues like a automatic gearbox.
@diesottodrives
@diesottodrives Жыл бұрын
alrighty now I want to play this
@ShadowViewsOnly
@ShadowViewsOnly Жыл бұрын
Gosh darn it. I'm hype for this game again... :D
@Fluxikator
@Fluxikator Жыл бұрын
Now it gets interesting. New Locomotives. XD Cant wait for the Other 2 new ones. And the Changes to the Steam trains in general.
@coreon1810
@coreon1810 Жыл бұрын
There is a video on youtube explaining working od DH in detail (its just same but with visuals) its called "How diesel locomotive works part 2" or something
@thecontainthemchannel1548
@thecontainthemchannel1548 Жыл бұрын
Something about the dials, gauges, and ometers pleases me, probably the background and needles.
@FoxBox357
@FoxBox357 Жыл бұрын
Cant wait!
@evhensamchuk1676
@evhensamchuk1676 Жыл бұрын
Had no idea how to operate this loco and ended up with $30K worth of damage to the gearbox. Thanks for the guide, now I now what to look out for.
@xm10922
@xm10922 Жыл бұрын
Good Stuff ❤
@vortexcv
@vortexcv Жыл бұрын
What is the pulling capacity for this loco?
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
Probably less than DE6 or SH282 but significantly more than DE2. I believe it's more suitable for heavy shunting and logistics, not much for heavy freight, especially on the incline. I could be wrong.
@kiamasimon599
@kiamasimon599 Жыл бұрын
Hey squirrel love your vids especially your uts2 vids id love you played it again❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@dieterkoch8414
@dieterkoch8414 Жыл бұрын
Have they over done the bouncing around of the train now? That seemed to be bouncing around an awful lot and I fear I am not going to be able to play it as it will make me car sick. Another great video, you explain things so well!! Thank you looking forward to the update
@thatoneguy611
@thatoneguy611 11 ай бұрын
Real trains away quite a lot
@spykillergames8402
@spykillergames8402 Жыл бұрын
so you still start with the DE2 diesel-elec shunter but then you can move up to a DM3 then the DH4 and finally the massive DE6 interesting how we have the "endgame" diesel and "early game" diesel but both are D-E buit between the two we get a hymech and a classic diesel mechanical
@iar81c77
@iar81c77 Жыл бұрын
I think this is done as a balancing mechanic in a very clever way. The starting loco is a DE, which is really simple to understand and operate for new players, with very little management involved. Next comes the DM3, catering to those wanting more power at a cheap cost, at the expense of having to be very careful with gearing and potentially other things, due to the nature of Diesel-Mechanical unit. Then there's the DH4, serving as a strong and fairly easy to use middle ground between the two DEs, with little management to do, albeit in a slightly different way, requiring some getting used to. Finally there's another DE unit, but this time the ease of use serves more as a reward for spending lots of money on the license, instead of making new players get adjusted to the game, on top of being very powerful and fast. It'll be interesting to see if they've changed the steam loco in any major way, then, of course, there is the SH060 which will be very interesting to see.
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
@@iar81c77 Fantastic overview, yes. It's a Pokemon game with locos. Each should feel authentic and have interesting mechanisms, and DE6 should be the big prize, but still feel specific so that it doesn't overshadow or replace everything else. That's partly why they removed the RC support, because people make it boring for themselves in the late game. The more you encourage people to mix and match, the better overall experience they get, and the happier they become with the purchase of the game because it actually feels and acts BETTER for them. That's the game designer's job.
@poochengeez
@poochengeez 11 ай бұрын
10:15 you clever bastard
@marvinl8519
@marvinl8519 7 ай бұрын
As someone who earns his money by shunting with the "BR 294" und "BR 296" of the V90-Family at DB Cargo AG in Germany I was freakin' excited when I saw that a loco based on my work place comes to Derail Valley... But man this thing is nothing like the real loco. Yea it's diesel-hydraulic. But that's it. The controlls, the dumb "omg you have to watch out for oil temp" thing are big downers.
@giuseppemarchi3226
@giuseppemarchi3226 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@robertbalazslorincz8218
@robertbalazslorincz8218 Жыл бұрын
It's a hydraulic, which means it has a camshaft that breaks on occasion
@jereffuse
@jereffuse Жыл бұрын
can't wait new meta quest 3 since I sold the 2 long time ago to play this again
@mxtt474
@mxtt474 Жыл бұрын
@DudeMandango
@DudeMandango Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this update for years! Kinda sucks we aren't getting any new locations though.
@realcanadian96
@realcanadian96 Жыл бұрын
The map is packed enough and big enough.
@DudeMandango
@DudeMandango Жыл бұрын
@@realcanadian96 I've been playing this game for almost five years. Yes, some new locations would be cool. Would it not?
@realcanadian96
@realcanadian96 Жыл бұрын
@@DudeMandango no, I think the map is flushed out enough. All they need to add is passengers.
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
It'll come. You can't have it all guys. At least not at the same time. This was already an ungodly amount of good work.
@hugos5114
@hugos5114 Жыл бұрын
@@realcanadian96 they still plan to add 4 cities and something like 25 towns...
@geekrulz1
@geekrulz1 Жыл бұрын
this has a lot of simelarities of the V60 and BR290 from the DB
@ClovenCake
@ClovenCake Жыл бұрын
More like the V100 (Br212)
@GamerTubeHD
@GamerTubeHD Жыл бұрын
Will you be making a video about the SH282 as well?
@jasonsalwaysburnt
@jasonsalwaysburnt Жыл бұрын
What kind of load limit are you looking at as compared to the DE6? I'm assuming it will be in between both the DE2, DM3, and the DE6?
@BigRookTrucking19
@BigRookTrucking19 Жыл бұрын
Squirrel end my suffering, IS THERE NEW STEAM ENGINES!!
@hugos5114
@hugos5114 Жыл бұрын
read the update notes...
@redtoadengineering9226
@redtoadengineering9226 Жыл бұрын
3 days till simulator!
@stephenmurray9850
@stephenmurray9850 Жыл бұрын
A question or two.. 1/ have they changed the weights these engines can pull and what is the max each can do? 2/ Does the remote control work with this engine? Thanks
@fbonnie6894
@fbonnie6894 Жыл бұрын
2/ yes its gonna work with a remote
@sebastianstoica578
@sebastianstoica578 Жыл бұрын
Also, does the remote work for this loco?
@iar81c77
@iar81c77 Жыл бұрын
yes
@Izmael1310
@Izmael1310 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would introduce campaign/missions and career mod and also achievments it would make the game even better :) btw very nice loco. I'll definitely pick this up after first few hauling missions. Is it going to be possible after the update to leave the train and change the rail switches in advance?
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
Since when are set missions better than the open sandbox? I don't get the other question, this was always possible. There is even a manually-driven rail car in the game + teleport. Now it will be possible more than ever because of external camera and bird-view interactivity.
@Izmael1310
@Izmael1310 Жыл бұрын
@@milanstevic8424 well it is my personal opinion. I like in game achievements and I like missions and carrer mode it gives me sense of completion. Sandbox for me is just for doing crazy stuff and explosion like GTA. Only games where I use sandbox are games like transport tycoon or transport fever. I just like the stuff like leveling up from low level and basic loco to new locos and challenges.
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
@@Izmael1310 In other words, the "sandbox" is better described as a "career mode". It's not aimless.
@BeasantN
@BeasantN Жыл бұрын
Yet another guide that leaves out essential information. what's the max load it can pull Squirrel? Might that not be important to know? All the loads in simulator have changed.
@Riotlight
@Riotlight Жыл бұрын
How viscus does the fluid need to be? And how far away is the input impeller to the output turbine?
@rrice1705
@rrice1705 11 ай бұрын
Can't speak to your second question, but as to your first the answer is "not very". When it's hot, ATF's gets to be almost like what diesel fuel is at room temperature.
@meepmeepvroom2200
@meepmeepvroom2200 Жыл бұрын
Were you attached to that load of cranes when you showed the temp? Thing took off instantly under heavy load.
@Epicburst
@Epicburst Жыл бұрын
It's finally happening guys! STAY CALM!
@MrBerniboy
@MrBerniboy Жыл бұрын
This is a DB V90
@gamergamer8149
@gamergamer8149 Жыл бұрын
anyone noticed, that its basicly an BR 100 from Germany? at least optical.
@ClovenCake
@ClovenCake Жыл бұрын
You mean V100 or Br 212 😅
@feraldaemon20
@feraldaemon20 Жыл бұрын
@squirrel How do we find out the pulling weight capability of the new and existing locos?
@Hawky2947
@Hawky2947 Жыл бұрын
Friend pointed out it looks like the loco is "swimming" too much. Is that much suspension swaying normal?
@JonosBtheMC
@JonosBtheMC 10 ай бұрын
Interesting, a blue lamp on the RPM gauge (who knows what that's for) but no lights for the actual gauges....
@sasquatchhadarock968
@sasquatchhadarock968 Жыл бұрын
Where are the ingame engine books? I notice the licenses no longer tell you the haul rating of each engine anymore either. I remember the shunter *claimed* 400 tonnes (lol) and the 2-8-2 was rated for up to 1,000 tonnes but what about them all now?
@user-si5fm8ql3c
@user-si5fm8ql3c Жыл бұрын
About 200t for the DE-2, 600t for the DM-3, 800t for the DH4, 900t for the 2-8-2, 1200t for the DE-6 These are all pretty much at maximum performance, on perfectly dry rails
@Guimademann
@Guimademann Жыл бұрын
How much weight can you pull on level and on a climb with this one?
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 4 ай бұрын
Heaven above does this engine make a bunch of racket for the work out does
@montanabigbeer650
@montanabigbeer650 Жыл бұрын
What about the ratings in terms of load capacity? in tonnes?
@captainjonna1034
@captainjonna1034 Жыл бұрын
She's beautiful the DH4, can't wait for update even its going to melt my old gal of PC.
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
ye olde molten lady
@taliakuznetsova7092
@taliakuznetsova7092 Жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty well optimized as i heard someone with a 1050 was running it pretty well.
@captainjonna1034
@captainjonna1034 Жыл бұрын
@@taliakuznetsova7092 my spec are and old Amd fx6300 6 core CPU (kinda bullshit cos its actually 3 physical cores and 3 virtual lol but this CPU is ridiculously durable and was second hand and its still going strong) I have 16GB of slow 1866 MHZ DDR3 ram my mother board is capped at that limit sadly. for a GPU i have Nvidia GTX 1050 TI 4gb card Derail runs well for me at 60 fps pretty much everywhere i get some dipps coming into some of the Oil industries when theres lots and lots cars and the most common thing i get is small stutters here and there. So my PC is 6 slot bread toaster with turbo hahahahaha lol i've usally put my money into spending time with friends and family but its about time i stopped being stingy and built a new rig. Ty for taking the time to reply it's reassuring.
@mike880926
@mike880926 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to the new "Simulation" update of "Derail Valley" we have a lot of more and more fun :) ! There is also a matter, that is present with all of the "fun" simulators. In real life, the temperature of the transmission fluid is very important but less important, than the engine coolant/oil temperature. In this simulation the "fun" factor i being aware, that something will break up eventually and our loco will blow up sky hi, so we won't be bored to death, as we must take care of running effort :) This is still great! SteamVR is waiting -.-
@everythinggaming7938
@everythinggaming7938 Жыл бұрын
You really make me want to buy this game but I can't afford it 😢
@paulnieuwkamp8067
@paulnieuwkamp8067 Жыл бұрын
Interesting new (to the game at least) mechanic, I like it. Does anybody know if the remote will work with this engine?
@talkingpeanut3113
@talkingpeanut3113 Жыл бұрын
Apparently it will
@potatogaming66
@potatogaming66 9 ай бұрын
Some npcs, traffic, ability to get npcs as buddy in cab, ability to tell npcs what to do (changing tracks?) Some survival elements coffee water pub in city? Having an beer after an day at work, Ciggatertes maybe and food? More buildings , looks pretty empty at moment , I must admit it, this game it's best 👍 you really need to work, not like in other games where u put pantograph on reach 300 and that's all. And put some eastern European locomotive in 😂
@kennethwhiddonjr.ravenhear9651
@kennethwhiddonjr.ravenhear9651 Жыл бұрын
I hope there is a way to turn down the bobble head action.
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
Probably is. Btw it's not a bobble head, it's the lack of it. What you're seeing is the loco swaying due to suspension.
@kennethwhiddonjr.ravenhear9651
@kennethwhiddonjr.ravenhear9651 Жыл бұрын
@@milanstevic8424 My bad for not looking into this. Since trains use air suspension it all makes sense now. A slider for effect like in ATS or ETS would be nice.
@milanstevic8424
@milanstevic8424 Жыл бұрын
I believe it's not just an effect, the suspension is physically simulated on the entire consist, as this also improves the rail-contact physics. In other words, this is more than just cosmetic feature, but there could be some settings, I can't confirm that.
@hvymtal8566
@hvymtal8566 Жыл бұрын
So uh I think you left the handbrake on on the wagons
@Ryderfrfr
@Ryderfrfr Жыл бұрын
It looks like the german DB BR 211 or something, is that loco it?
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