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Every single game is wasting your time

It's not a waste if you're having fun, which is the purpose of video games.

My problem with Diablo and really any RPG is once I get to the max level I lose interest really fast. For me there needs to be more progression beyond just doing the same thing over and over looking for the perfect gear for your build, so you can keep doing the same thing over and over just a teeny bit tougher.

So far I am really enjoying D4 right now. Still working on leveling and gearing, but its been far better than the last time I played last year.

This is exactly the same thing i was thinking. Whats the point of spending 10-15 hours farming PIT in order to upgrade gear? Fully masterworked gear wont help you kill Lilith or Tormented bosses if you play non meta class/spec . If you play S tier class/spec you dont need fully masterworked gear anyway.

The problem is that eventually you run into the same exact issue. Even if they implemented your changes you mentioned, you'd still end up at this spot where you have nothing left to do and nothing to "test" your crazy uber uniques with 4 greater affixes. Eventually there's going to be a point where there isn't much left to do - you can't just have an infinite loop of upgrading/higher tiers of content. I mean, I guess you could, but that would also be kinda dumb. Point is, eventually there has to be a stopping point. When that stopping point happens, I think, is just a matter or personal preference.

After four seasons, I literally can't bear to run any more Gregoire and Varshan farms. I have so many Steel and Malignant parts just sitting there taking up space in my inventory with zero Ubers too.

I think there is way too much RNG. spend 10 hours for a specific item only to fail the temper. Whats the point. The game is basically the embodiment of Nihilism. You are grinding for nothing. What’s it all for?

I don't have the words for it, but I also feel it wastes my time. For example, I played numerous seasons of D3, and it was enjoyable and fun each cycle. But we have almost the same parts in D4, and it feels unrewarding. It feels like work with no payoff. I can't get excited about the loot; there's something off about racing, trading, and partying; they've introduced so much complexity, but it's simply arbitrary, and it's actually more simple but convoluted than D3 They always try to portray farming as actual content, but they have to boost it multiple times during each season, as if it were a mandatory KPI. Every event or upgrade must take X minutes or hours to complete and we need Z player fall off before the actual tuning begins. At the same time, I want it to win, but it's a difficult challenge. There is zero substance here, and they spend so much time trying to hide it when I think the audience would get behind it. It's not there yet, and they need the gamers help with it. It's obvious how they wanted to string and trickle all these things out over the years, and it just feels gross. Also developers are currently attempting to send covert signals to players, requiring them to refrain from playing or voice complaints up to a specific threshold before advancing certain aspects. It's such an odd experience at the moment. Its a weird circle jerk - the player doesn't like it , the devs dont like it but we all have to play along is just trash at this point.

is it me or do gear pieces not drop +1/2/3 ect to certain skills anymore? ive gotten to lvl 100 and found 3 pieces in all that time. barely any unique either

There is no point in suggesting improvements for a bad game. We all know that the game will die forever the moment players are allowed into PoE2

I always come back to smash one month and out. Clan members disappear in 2-3 weeks until next season. We enjoy this small time but I would like to go for an adventure.

Bro played the game for 3 weeks straight it's a arpg. Play thru the season complete the content till your satisfied then move on or make a new toon

1-100 by standing in 1 spot -> Pit to level up gear to make doing bosses easier -> Potentially find better gear/ubers to do more pit runs and level up your gear to do bosses faster. Diablo 4 is the mmo sandbox without group/social features that no one asked for.

I mean all endgames have like zero incentives tbh, poe included, poe just suffers from a different aspect of bloated content of a decade, i still play both relatively frequently but thats the whole thing of arpgs for casual ish people

there is a end to every video game , just have to accept it and move on.

Loving the new channel...a member in your main one and look forward to more content from ya!

They could do those things but I also hope that since we are supposed to get an expansion they will create another tier of things to do. D3 didn't really add more to the end and I feel that was a mistake.

i am exactly at the same point now i clear 70s pit to upgrade my stuff, but I am not motivated anymore

definitely need a use for all these materials we got. I think it's almost a definite thing they do something with them. They glorified these rare loot explosions which are fun but then we do nothing with all the loot we pick up kinda defeats the purpose.

I'm a pretty casual gamer, only have time to play a few hours after work or weekends. My goal isn't to complete content, I just want to collect uber uniques. With this goal, alot of the endgame activities remain viable.

Same. Level 100, Pit 26, but what's the point? I'm playing a build that is fun, but also kind of sub optimal. There's nothing to do but run the same content for hours upon hours for marginal upgrades. Why? What's the point? I feel the same way. It's the same shit over and over and over. I could copy a cookie cutter build. What does that prove? I can play the game like every other person that literally does the same thing. Yay...

Hate blasting the pit having 9 minutes left , get to the boss and get one shot over and over from some shadow of another boss .... Def not fun

Man bro you're preaching it right. Diablo-only players will never understand the points you make about Path of Exile's system though because they just see PoE's passive skill tree and immediately check out without even giving it a shot. I don't completely love PoE either, I think it's way over-tuned, everything is a stupid blitz, and you HAVE to follow build guides to be successful at all AND then be lucky with drops/get enough currency to buy what you need from other players, but PoE still has a basic endgame that absolutely crushes anything D4 has to offer, as well as D3, if we want to be fair. Take for instance JUST the mapping system. Ignore all of the extra fluff, you have well over 100 different maps to enter with a high variety of monsters, locations, and bosses. You have a multitude of awesome endgame mapping bosses to strive to go after with some genuine challenges. Now also consider the gearing system. Part of me likes the masterworking, but on the other hand, it leaves a lot for me to want. PoE's overall crafting system is so much more involved, has so many more options, and PoE always has potential for you to get better gear. I hate that in Diablo it's just "well get max item power and you're there" effectively. That's kind of boring. Oh boy, +5% every few minutes woopdeedoo. Ooo a +25%! Great, now I can go do the same God damned thing again. The Pit has like MAYBE half a dozen different visual locations and they are pretty short and dull. I want to have more to see. I don't know, maybe ARPGs really just aren't for me. I should get back to Last Epoch - that game showed some promise and at least was super colorful lol but oh boy the voice acting. I'm just hoping sometime, some day, Blizzard makes a Diablo 1st person horror game. Not a loot pinata game. A fucking Amnesia-style horror game. Can you imagine?

everyday for 3 weeks?????????? wtf more u want dude?????

I think what you are saying is correct About end game.. I still think that the item's need more work There should be items specifically out there for each core Skills There should be no items in the game that you have to reroll. It will be more Exciting to find items With plus to Whatever Skills And items for defense That will open up options for making your own Build Basically like diablo two

Just watched you last "oh no its alex"vid you mentioned your new channel,and here i am.keep making great content chap.cozmic(Rodney, fools and horses)

They should make the uber bosses only have the option to drop ubers. Kind of how D2 has the uber bosses you have to farm for the torches. At least it would give you something to work toward. They give out too much stuff easily(like crafting your own ubers) and then people say there is no content

Loving season 4 and D4 in general. If D4 team could only add something that was permanent between seasons to keep working on that did not reset every season that would be next step. Maybe you could gift one item per s ason into next season....

The Pit grind is insane, I spent hours grinding then realized “for what?” it’s not worth my time

I felt the exact same apathy the moment I completed the battle pass rewards and haven't played since, internally debating whether or not it's worth to squeeze a few more hours out of it to complete the season journey for the spark and the "Looter" player title, currently leaning more on the side of "No", might change my mind based on patches/updates.. although the 1 year anniversary announcement was a joke tbh, totally not enough to justify more gameplay.

Superb ideas! I get burned out a few days after getting to 100 on a character. I have gear with ‘meh’ greater affixes and the repetitive farming with the same mediocre affixes gets bored soon. Game feels so good now but it’s missing that final grind stage.

I will keep saying this... The end game really needs activities in the open world so we can play it with others. Right now the most fun part of the game is Hell Tides. Maybe we could start getting Massterworking materials there too. Just doing dungeons (Pit, NM, etc.) over and over gets boring after a while. The game is going in the right direction, but I really hope the devs start using the open world fro more content. 😈

We can compare however we want, it's a fkin 70 dollar game, we are right to expect a polished product, not the garbage that we got. D4 is at the core a trash game and will forever have the same problems as New World has, it is a pretty skin on a hollow core. Even a small game like "V Rising" has a better progression system and more fun ability and spell customizability / modification system. V Rising is combat wise what the developers of D4 originally wanted D4 to be.

I really enjoy Diablo 4… Got it for $30 and I can’t complain. Matter of fact, I’m level 68 and now playing in tier 4. I can’t play it enough haha

waste of time is a subjective state of being. dont let anyone tell you what you spend your time on is worth.

This is how games are in general. All arpgs waste your time cause they are all grind fests. For diablo, at the same time you dont want to add bloat and powercreep to where things get outa control. Damage numbers are already pretty high in the game so they cant just keep adding power boosts here and there. Maybe they can add fun activities to do with what you accomplished withouy adding powercreep. Also this is a casual game so adding and adding isnt going to help the casuals. They need to have them complete a character and do some endgame in time before the next season starts.

All I can say is its way more fun than season 1. The mats grind in the end is tiresome but not necessary.

I agree, after the maxroll leaderboard was closed I have no goals left and have therefore stopped playing since then.

D4 Season 4 is fun, up to endgame. I like leveling quickly, but at 100, its pure boredom. If tempering didnt brick every fucking time. Either I have the worst luck, or Blizzard weighted tempering rolls to check what gear and skills and then rolling the least favorable. And no tempering resets, so 20 hours in one session and no gear to speak for. And then The Pit punishes you for playing with friends. Whoever pays to open the Pit gets full mats but everyone else gets 50%. Blizzard can't make a game fun to play. Season 4 could have been awesome but the DEI hires at Blizzard had other intentions.

You beat the game you don’t have to keep playing comeback next season, POE has way more content because it’s been out for a decade and the complexity but of that after awhile if I feel like why am I doing this I just stop and come back next season

True, but also the pit is made for testing strong builds in the end. I think they could move some of that masterworking crafting material to other mechanics in the game too, just doing Pit for the sole purpose of geting the masterworking materials is rather bland - the leaderboard thing though will stay.

You're not really thinking this through 10:43 For them to cap materials and items to only be at these tiers, they would need to actually balance the game where more builds are viable .The game is not in a good enough state to exclude players that don't want to be funneled into meta builds just to play the game. Think

Your 100% right. Although the game can be fun playing with friends, running solo is very boring. I've been grinding for hours with little to show for it other than a few bricked items from tempering items and getting 1 or 2 pieces of gear with 1 or 2 greater affix that do nothing for my build.

I started a week ago, waiting final shape... Made a guy, fell asleep playing. Apparently I was still moving the sticks, woke up at the glyph thing to get my rewards... Leveling glyphs is getting to me. Anyway, the game is literally so easy you can beat it in your sleep... Trust me, I found out last night.

"the gearing up for nothing paradox", as I like to call it, is a inherent and unavoidable problem almost all loot driven RPG's have. From single player survival games to theme park MMO's. The only games that aren't trapped by that paradox are PVP games, especially games with "play for keeps" item persistence and "drop loot on death" mechanics.

The pit is the pinnacle of time wasting. Why doesn't drop gold? Why can't I upgrade glyph in pit? Why obducite and ingolith stop dropping and you have to convert superior mats? Is Prolly one of the worst content I have ever seen.

I played for several hours and I must say, I way more enjoyed D3. I was getting bored. Started playing The Last Epoch...now that leaves D4 for dead. Very fun

It's very hard to create a game that people want to play forever. Maybe impossible. Have fun until you don't. It's the natural life cycle of games.

Bro has never played any "forever" game in his life. Your complaints apply to all ARPG engame grinds and MMOs

Please Alexx, respect yourself and your time.

I agree, i finish my season journey and just stop cause i hate the 1 shot mechanic and tempering.

There are Helltides, Tree of Whispers, Nightmare dungeons, summonable bosses, Uber bosses. and the pit. Those are all "Endgame" activities. I am so tired of people saying "There is no Endgame" or "There is not enough Endgame". There is Endgame. You have just played it so much that you don't enjoy it anymore. That is ok. That doesn't mean the game is bad. There are diminishing returns with everything. No content creator can create something infinitely satisfying. Maybe there is some kind of dissonance with definitions. If it is not the campaign, or side quests, then it is Endgame. Am I wrong? What are you people defining Endgame as?

You're right. The endgame is lackluster. Much of the improvements are fantastic, but the endgame is just not good enough.

There was never an endgame in Diablo 1-2-3, I don't think it's possible.

It's just your opinion it doesn't mean your right dude. I love d4 even when they didn't doo so good because I'm a true fan. Win or lose I'm gonna stay faithful to diablo. It's soo much fun

tldw: "Whats the point in playing the game if I'm just going to beat it?" lmao

@ARPGAlex: Love how you say Ne-ath-iron. I think its supposed to be called Neath-iron (like the word Beneath). Iron from the Beneath. Think about it ;)

Also have Uber Bosses erupt in the open world at random spots Like in the Helltide. so we could see the "Helltide Ping" appear all over the map

my biggest problem with d4 is zero ladders no competition

I was shocked that after a decade, they still couldn't come up with anything better than rifts - and its not like anyone was enjoying the pedestrian boss fights in a small ring. They took the monotony out of levelling with Helltides, which are actually fun when using mind cages, but you out level those real fast too. You are right on Nightmare dungeons - left them the second i maxed my glyphs. I hadn't played since the retail release disaster. D4 has a much better foundation to the systems, but yeh, the challenge is not engaging in the pit. With tempering, its also a gear bricking simulator.

Ben Affleck plays Diablo 4?

Diablo is about pushing tiers, D3 was literally pushing as high as possible in greater rifts and as fast as possible. D4 at least has extra content with the tormented bosses, helltides and events like the one due this week. My biggest gripe with videos like this is the want to take things from other arpgs like poe, if you want 10 years of developed content and a headache of wtf am i doing then play poe. D4 had a rough start but season 2 was decent, season 3 was more meh and season 4 for me at least has been really strong and enjoyable and gives me good vibes for future seasons.

Current D4 season was good fun for several weeks.

I am having it fun for now. The PoE season is over for me and still waiting on Last Epochs first real season so D4 is alright for bridging the gap.

I appreciate your PoV and feedback. Well said

That ideas are cool, also i thought about world bosses, that shouldn't be dead in like 5 seconds. I guess they should be like the endgame super duper monsters that you need a pack of guys to be able to deal with. Ofcourse they should drop nice Gear and stuff

I think it's called Diablo... So where the fck is Diablo?

I'm finally enjoying the game, but I shared for frustration for several months.

I agree with you, I’d say build crafting is what’s left for us honestly.

Ok, so diablo, and i presume other arpg's as well, are simply build sims. You get your character leveled up, get better gear, do some min maxing, and once you are happy with how far you can take the build, you are done. I have a sorc, rogue, barb and necro all at level 100 with at least lvl 15 paragon nodes. they all have lvl 4 masterworking. My druid is level 88 and i'm working on glyphs as well as getting some decent gear to masterwork. It's literally been a month, and i still have so much left to do. Once i spend the next month getting min-maxing done, guess what i'll do? I'll then start playing other games. I do agree that the game lacks decent endgame content, but considering season 2 had the AOZ, which was buggy af, it lacked any real reason to push to t25 other than to pull the middle finger to blizzard, the pit is considerably better. They can definitely do more, and one of the main things would be looking to add something like raids etc where there are MORE mechanics, and where you NEED to work with others to progress and complete the raid. Something else they could do would be to add more paragon points for say every 5 tiers of the pit you do, similar to how they did the "tears of blood" glyph in s2. We are also more than likely getting wt5 next season with the first dlc, as well as a new class, so there is much to look forward to there.

I really feel the PvE in this game is lacklustre... im about 40 hours in as a necromancer and i have not discovered and properly explored 4/5th of the map. Dungeons are bearable even in world tier 2 but seem kind of a chore to do. I'm currently level 55-60 btw. I am enjoying it thoroughly though. It seems like one of the mobile games i played made by nexon when i was in college. Much more casual but with big budget. Do empathise with where you are coming from though. Always good to have a character whihc you can brag about and which is competitive and based on the hours you put into the game instead of abused mechanics,money , or even cheating.

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. If you enjoy the game that’s great. If not and you feel like you’re wasting your time, move on. It’s as simple as that. As for me, I’m enjoying the game.

I agree with you on most of your points... however don't forget that the majority of players are casual, so most of them will not even hit 100.

I was hoping D4 season, will take more time than D3 season, but i got bored even faster than D3. Its just meh, i still enjoy D2R the most, even if it has the least amount of content in it .

It's so spot-on status of the D4. Love it.

this video is kinda stupid, its not wasting your time if your having fun. if you feel like your done then go play an alt or another game.... i've been playing this season from the start and i feel my rouge getting stronger with every MW upgrade and it feels very rewarding

You want to farm the tormented version ofmbosses because they give you five times the loot of normal bosses. Imo if you have spare stygian stones you should always be doing tormented bosses. If you are farming end game bosses for the purpose of getting uber unqies you are wasting more time by doing the normal versions.

There is still no "Hell" tileset for nightmare dungeons or pit

They should make a skill tree for Pit only. Every tier of pit you clear you get a point to this tree. This would be copied from the Atlas from poe.

"I'm wasting my time making KZfaq videos for some nerds"

Bro, there is a streamer who said "ive got 7 chars at lvl100" when i was at lvl 95 with 1 char. Dont sweat this game. If you wanna sweat try poe.

Never ever put me back in nightmare dungeons please, and the pit isnt a end game its a lazy way to put infinite scaling in the game that then players get mad cause only bugged or select 2 builds can push high. Its the simple fact that they dont know how to make a endgame thats just the facts been trying to for 20 years and havent succeeded once

devs plz listen to this

I play Diablo 4 one hour around every second day. It becomes boring after that... I really don't understand how someone can play this so often and long. I understand when you play "Elden Ring" or a strategy game like CIV, but Diablo 4 is something that is not made to play endlessly. It's sad for your lost time.

yeha well D4 is a ton of fun the first 20h with each character. But after that you realize you need 100s of millions of Gold to masterwork. And that when i quit. I have a Barb that can run PIT 70 and a Rouge that can run PIT 80 and further improvements would litteraly cost ~50million+ Gold per Item to hit the correct masterworks.

I started off enjoying season 4, but the way the endgame is and is currently looking... it's just not that fun. A weird roguelike mode won't help, it's just going to muddy an already not great endgame

D4 is fun to me, but I'm not a hard core player. I just wanna blast some demons with my skellies. Games ARE a waste of time. ( I get what you mean tho). But, for me D4 wasn't supposed to be a permanent game. I literally played story. Got lev 47 on my Sorc and quit. I waited until Now to come back and try a necro. I will get max level and play a little bit of end game (not hard core) and come back in another season or two and play a druid or rogue. and have fun again.

d4 mid seems unfair, mid would say its 5/10 but i personally think its a 4/10

Bro has never heard of intrinsic rewards For me, I like setting a goal and accomplishing it. I want to defeat all Uber bosses and hit Pit 100. Then I’ll be done and will have enjoyed the journey

"Diablo 4 is wasting your time because I don't like it"

What is broken with uber lilith? All mechanics seemed fine to me. It was hard but it was doable. Skill issues I guess. You can't cheese some boss mechanics in D4, which is a good thing imho. And it is also well balanced. If you do a lot of DPS you have to handle less mechanics (but can't skip them all), and if you do too little DPS you will need to play like an Asian. (maybe this was your problem, you said you didnt care about masterworking). In fact I think it is a much better fight than the Shaper and even the Elders, since there is only one way to cheese it with one class, which they hopefully fix. For most other things I agree, apart from the Pit which is not meant to be done till 200. It is supposed to be for future leadearboard with leaway for the future. Nobody has done more than 143 atm and that is with bugs.

You are right Alexx. the good part is season 4 is a bit better now , they add a lot of stuff, and looks like blizzard make updates more often know and they hear what peopel say on forums. Lets home season 5 will be much muh better., At least season 4 is way better than season 1. its a good step haha

You need better video tags man, how else would you get Asmon to watch your video?

No Game has meaning truly other than what you make it

Blizzard will always want to keep you like a hamster in a wheel. The whole masterworking system is inhumane to say the least, you need to take a SINGLE piece several times to level 4 to get "the crit" you want in the right stat, then you go to level 8 to 99% of the time get the wrong one and you have to restart again, lose all the time and materials you spend on it and on top pay 5 million for "your mistake", why not just reset from level 8 to level 4 so at least you don't lose all the fucking time and effort you put on the first 4 levels ? PRFF of course not its Blizzard!

the last thing this game needs is more dungeons....it has 345234234 of them already What it needs is better chase items that are actually rare, are extremely powerful and game changing, can't be gambled Weekly bosses that can be killed only once per week that have the highest loot table so they can drop everything Lesser drop rates...I don't think its very rewarding when you kill a boss and it always drops 10+ legendaries...wtf ...bosses should drop items exactly like they do in Diablo 2: up to 6 items which consist of any combination of blues, whites, rares, legendaries, uniques. Diablo 1 and 2 were all about the item chase and then d3 came along and took that out completely and it is happening again in d4...nobody wants to work for their items...they want everything on a silver platter. Why do uber uniques even exist if you can literally get them for free.....this new generation of diablo players need to go play something else if they want their hand held. The whole obol gambling system is stupid too.....they should switch it to gold or take it out or make getting a legendary harder through gambling. Rare quality items should not be able to be modified but should be able to roll higher affixes and the same or even more affixes than a legendary so you have a reason to pick up rares and maybe you migh find a super godly one that is better than any legendary you could craft/modify They need to put a cap on certain skills so people can't become permanently immortal They need to make pvp better because that is the true end game of diablo 2 and there is a reason that game is still very active today .... without good pvp, diablo 4 will die just like d3...and people can cry all they want but there needs to be pking as well....there needs to be a risk of going out and doing quests and running into another player that wants to kill you. It makes the game way more fun and interesting especially when they fail and you kill them. There needs to be way more unique items and i mean ALOT more like atleast 100 more that can have affixes that modify certain skill or even give NEW skills only found on that unique item and you can build your whole character around that one item. There needs to be extremely rare uniques that can only be found in the pit and the rarer ones can only be found in the higher levels while level 200 could have a chance to drop the rarest of the rare and only in level 200 I can go on and on and on

I played it for a week and this was already very repetitive. Maybe i will return, maybe i wont. I think i just have too much gaming experience and i can see trough threadmills. Zero attraction on me.

I get we need more stuff for the resources but your making the same argument we've heard a 1000s times from months ago. It sounds like you want poe not saying thats bad but D3 was the samething waste of time didnt stop me from coming back for more. I love both games D3 and poe. This season has me playing more mainly do to my friends being excited to grind better loot. Game doesnt feel bad they added basically grs which is where we currently are to test our gear that and gauntlet. Lets see what the expansion end game system looks like