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@Rob2628 15 күн бұрын

Does Diablo 4 really need hard caps & do you like the current approach of balancing? Timestamps 00:00 Season 5 even more caps 00:52 Existing Caps 08:30 Soft Cap ideas 11:15 Conclusion

@boriskohlschreiber25 15 күн бұрын

Only barbs need caps.

@xXxGUZxXx 15 күн бұрын

They about to cap the number of people playing their game…

@BurghBeezer94 15 күн бұрын

I think the game needs caps, but they need to be soft caps. I.E. diminishing returns. So damage can keep scaling up, but more controlled than it is now.

@Geo66087 15 күн бұрын

CAPS is the new NERFS

@tomtomkowski7653 15 күн бұрын

They should nerf OP passives like Gushing Wounds (let's be real this Passive is the most OP thing in this game). Instead of a hard cap, they should nerf it to 30x from 140x to be in line with other passives from other classes.

@ADDeeJay 15 күн бұрын

Sorc has like 6 different caps at this point. This game is fucking stupid.

@barrymacdonald3439 15 күн бұрын

No the sorc needs more caps there crazy broken sorcs should have their damage nerfed to druid level 18 DMG per hit

@p7755fn 15 күн бұрын

simply the direction of the game in terms of balance is bad

@tsidilin 15 күн бұрын

Barbs arguing about 45% cap. Sorc have 30% cap on the best paragon note since launch

@kuja5809 15 күн бұрын

Lmao@barrymacdonald3439 bro no

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

@@barrymacdonald3439the entire point of the video is to nerf in healthy ways that keep the spirit and point of the mechanic instead of hard caps, you are an example of why this video needed to be made, please actually watch the video.

@captaincrossplay 15 күн бұрын

Players leaving D4 -> Devs: *Lets Buff everything* Players returning D4 -> Devs: *Lets nerf everything*

@aleksfreeman3627 15 күн бұрын

Players now will leave again :) i won't pla this shit. Waiting for a 6 season

@d-o.o-b 12 күн бұрын

odd even season teams are literally good cop bad cop

@SolarBurn 11 күн бұрын

Time to boycott the game yet again

@tumbleweed0u812 10 күн бұрын

These Devs flucking stupid at this point

@SirColly1 15 күн бұрын

Season 4 is like that ex-girlfriend that managed to lure you back in after promising she would change. Showed a bit of leg and made you think you were on the mend. Season 5 is the realisation your girlfriend is the bunny boiler from Stephen King’s, Misery.

@allenadams718 15 күн бұрын

That was Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, actually. Misery had the hobbling.

@SirColly1 15 күн бұрын

@@allenadams718 Bunny boiler is just a general term for a lunatic in my world. I’m aware of the reference though my man 👍🏻

@d4mephisto 15 күн бұрын

lmaoo this comment is amazing

@MrLove-ty1si 14 күн бұрын

That golden vajayjay though

@SirColly1 14 күн бұрын

@@klord-is9ft Agreed. Aztec black Panther wasn’t enough for me.

@blixkrogg 15 күн бұрын

Blizzard keeps forgetting ARPGs are supposed to be about figuring out ways to be ridiculously powerful.

@SolarBurn 11 күн бұрын

Time to boycott the game yet again

@grippinglipsfishing5671 15 күн бұрын

The more bad changes blizzard announces, the more deflated Rob's hair gets.

@CalebW451 15 күн бұрын

Player’s patience are already capped.

@brocklesnar9693 12 күн бұрын

Hhh that is a good one . I already deleted the game because it’s reached the maximum limit

@SolarBurn 11 күн бұрын

Time to boycott the game yet again

@jabari7158 15 күн бұрын

It feel weird to cap thunderstruck for Druids when thunder is notorious for struggling against bosses, why cap a build that’s mainly for density farming ?

@droid5785 15 күн бұрын

Wind shear stronk and they choose to nerf the node instead of aspect

@swampyg8571 14 күн бұрын

It's bc it was the only option for druids to be competitive. But instead of bringing everything else up, they brought that down.

@iamthemobey 13 күн бұрын

Druid is my favorite class by far but my god they're bad. I've got 3 Ubers on my druid and it struggles on 85 pit. I can't kill tormented bosses. I got the Ubers on my rog which minces them 😞

@SolarBurn 11 күн бұрын

Time to boycott the game yet again

@Trapinnewyork44 15 күн бұрын

After the big nerf the Devs still didn't learn from their mistakes, they are still doing big nerfs just slowly instead of one big nerf

@gouda96 15 күн бұрын

It's funny to complain about nerfs when every class in this game is massively over-tuned. The worst build in the game can face roll all content outside of the pit and uber bosses.

@alanhartman5613 15 күн бұрын

@@gouda96 which means they don't face roll "ALL" content

@LittleRadicalThinker 15 күн бұрын

That’s the point, slowly instead a big crash.

@Weaver_Games 15 күн бұрын

Nerfs are fine - massively reducing build flexibility isn't. Rob is right that capping everything just means every build will take every multiplier they can and cap it, and take whatever avenue they have to trigger that multiplier. In some classes (eg, sorc) you really often only have a single way to trigger some of the paragon multipliers. So every build will really homogenize in a game with already very homogenous builds.

@SolarBurn 11 күн бұрын

Time to boycott the game yet again

@Shawn-bo7sm 15 күн бұрын

your soft cap idea sounds like a great compromise to harsh hard caps.

@advertizer2010 15 күн бұрын

i would like soft caps that if you past that point. it get less effective for example. that is great solution aswell. maybe with armor aswell. so getting any higher will give you some low extra %s but not too much so its still meaningful if you happen to have more

@viktorstorelv 15 күн бұрын

@@advertizer2010Agree. Somehow I landed on around 10300 armor. And have tried for weeks now to get new items to get my armor down by 1000, with no luck.. would be nice if u could get at least a little something from the extra 1000. :)

@brians48now 15 күн бұрын

I was on the fence with season 5. This just pushed me over.

@thomasmoore6117 15 күн бұрын

same. blizzard saying "no more fun"

@chezwickcheese139 15 күн бұрын

Yep I’m not even going to bother with S5. POE2 will be out soon as well, D4 is dead.

@thomasmoore6117 15 күн бұрын

@@chezwickcheese139 im playing once human and waiting on poe2

@Frozty 15 күн бұрын

Blizzard's insistence on making the game as not-fun as possible is really paving the way for PoE2 to come in and steal literally every remaining ARPG player.

@MM-bt7hh 15 күн бұрын

̷s̷̷t̷̷e̷a̷̷l̷ 'convert'

@SponsoredbyPfizer 15 күн бұрын

That’s what I’m waiting for, not spending any more money on D4

@nguyenxayza3 15 күн бұрын

GGG never caps anything in their game.

@zexor37 15 күн бұрын

@@nguyenxayza3 player resists, crit chance, stun and freeze locking, curse effectiveness

@chezwickcheese139 15 күн бұрын

It’ll be free as well 😂

@calvingoh9321 15 күн бұрын

Are the devs making all classes worse because they can't fix sorcs?

@joelhodoborgas 15 күн бұрын

Nah, they just throwing shit on the wall to see what sticks.

@jasonlucia6682 15 күн бұрын

No, they're making them worse so the new OP uniques can shine. It's stupid.

@kuja5809 15 күн бұрын

@jasonlucia6682 agree with both of you but certainly they will nerf the nee uniques anyways so the nerfs are pointless

@ErikByrwa 15 күн бұрын

Thing is from the devs standpoint sorc is balanced and the other classes are broken. They could easily bring sorc up, but instead they'll bring other classes down. They're pretty bad at it though.

@Hrivera585 14 күн бұрын

As they are doing this its making sorcs worse too

@ojdidit84 15 күн бұрын

Rob on his Senator Palpatine druid, S3: "UNLIMITED POWAH! But yeah, Thunderstruck needs a cap" Rob reading S5 PTR patch notes: "Oh yeah! Thunderstruck got capped!" Reads Gushing Wounds cap: "NOW WAIT A DAMN MINUTE" How the turns have tabled once the fun and build diversity is taken away from YOUR favorite class.

@SponsoredbyPfizer 15 күн бұрын

For real

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

Did he actually say thunderstruck needed a cap specifically? If so can you help me find where he said that?

@ojdidit84 15 күн бұрын

@@Skydogg5555 He did but I'm not gonna go back through vods to find it. He said it on stream multiple times but I don't think he was being malicious. It's just silly to continually complain about tstruck not having a cap over multiple seasons while Druid has been underperforming for so long.

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

@@ojdidit84 oh so you know he did but have no idea how/when/why he said it but apparently knew it happened multiple times to make a trash meme about it and repeat it. yeah you have no idea if he said it and just want to believe it or else, of the apparent multiple times he did, you could give me just one.

@ojdidit84 15 күн бұрын

@@Skydogg5555 unhinged much? He's said on stream multiple times while myself and thousands of other people watched. I've made a similar comment in his stream chat when he was reviewing the season 5 PTR leak on Wowhead on stream. I love Rob's content and as a creator as much as the next person but Jesus, get a grip lol Do you realize how much this man streams and how much content he puts out? No, I'm not going to go back and search through probably 100 videos, reels & vods for something that you can do yourself that isn't even important because he more than likely has nothing to do with the fact that anything was capped.

@overpowerrd 15 күн бұрын

Everything BUT "burning instinct" for sorc has been capped every season so far. s5 they are 100% capped everywhere. NOW we starting to talk about how caps are bad when just a couple of the barb stuff gets capped. You're definitely right.. but also.. QQ and welcome to the party guys@!

@dale1890 15 күн бұрын

Right? I watched the video and didn't see anything that I haven't already been dealing with. I feel that they are going with caps because they don't know how to balance anything. It still won't be balanced when they give some classes x300% damage and others x90% on gear.

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

Except it’s not just Barb lmfao, thunderstruck is getting capped and is a Druid node.

@overpowerrd 15 күн бұрын

@@Skydogg5555 good

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

@@overpowerrd if you agree with caps you have an IQ cap at 85

@overpowerrd 15 күн бұрын

@@Skydogg5555 no, i think if any class is all capped. then every class should be all capped. I can tell you play barb. L2 read.

@goyetus 15 күн бұрын

They do this season BAD , to get a GOOD one for the expansion..... And the cycle of 1 good and 1 bad continues. XD

@thefilth7368 15 күн бұрын

Definitely. But it is a clear indicator that the devs are going the wrong direction. We want more fun and more extreme builds. Caps deliberately remove that aspect of the game.

@chezwickcheese139 15 күн бұрын

To be fair, S4 was ok, it wasn’t amazing, all it did was put a bandaid on massive issues with the game. It wasn’t groundbreaking by any chance.

@homagh_chris5975 15 күн бұрын

Just waiting for poe2

@Rohirrim009 15 күн бұрын

Yea it's a shame because D4 the graphics style and music is actually great tbh.Its everything else which is just plain bad or lacking.So boring at endgame.

@vroggnevrkla9069 15 күн бұрын

Same here

@zachfern3190 15 күн бұрын

Diablo 4 is doing an amazing job.... of making players quit.

@p7755fn 15 күн бұрын

simply the direction of the game in terms of balance is bad

@atty.danilotuazon8776 15 күн бұрын

I agree. POE 2 here i come.

@Rohirrim009 15 күн бұрын

Yea blizzard is determined to stop me from pre ordering the expansion.

@Kustom44 15 күн бұрын

Time to play Last Epoch! Kick Ass game with way better build diversity and Developer engagement. 🎉

@animago81 15 күн бұрын

Well this season had more players then ever.... So id say you are wrong.

@arekcccp 15 күн бұрын

Agree, also i don't understand cap for Movement Speed, should be like in d3, for speed farms max MS with GA and masterwork, for push etc different builds :))

@p7755fn 15 күн бұрын

@@arekcccp we need the armory asap

@user-nq2yj6gm1h 15 күн бұрын

This is one of the reasons why Sorc is doing so bad everything is capped at like 15-30%, if Frigid Fate was uncapped Sorc would be somewhere next to Necros/Rogues in power but with caps its bottom of the ladder

@kuja5809 15 күн бұрын

Yeah plus sorceress damage is trash and boss damage feels capped. Sorceress only good for low tier early game mob clearing. Sorceress survivability is also trash. So sorceress suppose to be glass cannon but has a straw instead of a cannon . Literally no reason to play sorceress going forward

@MarckCat 15 күн бұрын

My rogue has frigid finesse at x90% 🤣🤙

@tonyng9 15 күн бұрын

Sorcs have zero build diversity because of this cap. Fire and lightning sorcs getting Frigid Fate because that is the only legendary multiplier node on the paragon board. Ice and lightning sorcs are getting devouring blaze. Thematically, it makes no sense that the majority of an ice sorcs damage is conditional on the enemy burning. Sorc skill trees and paragon boards are almost identical for all their builds except for the core skill.

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

Sorc has highest solo pit clear, try again

@tonyng9 15 күн бұрын

@@Skydogg5555 Which is completely dependent on using obviously bugged mechanics and re-rolling the Pit over and over again until they can find the one boss they can kill because they cannot damage any other boss. The build that can do it is completely inefficient in doing anything else in the game.

@assist_o.k. 15 күн бұрын

One thing Blizzard needs to stop with is giving u increasingly bad drops the more u play the game. What's that about? Getting the same exact drops on equipment. Trash GAs or 1 good stat and 2 trash like Lucky Hit chance with life per hit and energy per second.

@Rohirrim009 15 күн бұрын

Keep saying it we need rare raid gear sets in game. We have uniques and uber uniques which is fine they are like single pieces but we need gear sets. For example, 2,4,6,8 piece gear set with different stuff and stats and effects when equipped. Think of WOW raid sets.

@acsc0408 15 күн бұрын

The first cap they should apply is cap on their salary.

@SeriousBeard 15 күн бұрын

It honestly feels like Blizzard is having a hard time figuring out how to balance classes so that they all have top DPS builds but can't figure out how. So instead they are hard capping everything that gets used as a way for top DPS builds now so that they are bringing them down to make them closer to the other lower tier DPS builds. This is the opposite of what they said they would do and it makes the game over all less fun to play. Blizzard, we want to be able and make crazy builds and every time we do you nerf or cap it so we can't anymore. It feels really bad.

@jasonlucia6682 15 күн бұрын

That's giving them too much credit imo. The caps and nerfs seem to have nothing to do with performance heh

@SeriousBeard 15 күн бұрын

@@jasonlucia6682 You're not wrong. It's almost like they are trying to do massive nerfs like they did during the release but slowly over a few patches instead of all at once. It sucks too because they take 1 step forward and make it more fun but then it's always followed with 2 steps back.

@barrymacdonald3439 15 күн бұрын

To be fair if they don't nerf things now they will have to give future content enormous health buffs or worse invulnerability phases to counter the billion hit barbs rogues etc. like I'm annoyed that I can't just juice a stat and go ham as easily but I do feel long term putting a handle on some nodes is good.

@blazedehart2748 15 күн бұрын

@@barrymacdonald3439the game launched like this. Billions of damage at launch. People tried to say something but gamer monkey brains cant help but clap for “big number when bonk happen”

@SeriousBeard 15 күн бұрын

@@barrymacdonald3439 I mean as far as fights go I agree that they should be interesting and have cool mechanics but after you have spent a ton of time refining gear and perfecting stats I don't know why it's a bad thing that you can 1 shot fights. The whole point of the game is to chase the power fantasy that lets you get to the point where mechanics are a non issue isn't it?

@LmyBs 15 күн бұрын

Defense caps = good. Offensive caps = bad

@MrTOman-82 15 күн бұрын

overall yes but I would like to not have armor cap for instance and build super tanky dude (using armor) which does not require Shako/TMight etc.

@kostisxristoforidis7196 15 күн бұрын

@@MrTOman-82armor cap is so dumb for real

@blazedehart2748 15 күн бұрын

They literally added a legendary affix that gives like 10k armor. Which is over the cap. Lol why? 😂

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

@@blazedehart2748it’s not over the cap, though. There are monsters that are higher than level 100, what the fuck are you talking about. edit: assuming this changed in season 4, i thought the change was they made it more clear in the tooltip that you need more armor beyond level 100 but i guess that isn't the case and there is a hard cap...guess that's another example of bad game design.

@stevej6215 15 күн бұрын

@@Skydogg5555 9,230 armor is all you need for enemy lvl 100 and beyond. Wtf are you on about? Read the armor tooltip in the game

@MrGlass- 15 күн бұрын

You can clearly see there are two different teams working on the game and that they have different directions on what the game should be. Odd number team needs to be organized under the even number team so that this whiplash of nerfs and “balancing” is not happening every other season.

@pickysource 15 күн бұрын

100% on this

@kevinsims5791 15 күн бұрын

I would assume they have communication with each other to keep things on the same page but it doesnt seem like it

@1973boombap 15 күн бұрын

whoever is in charge to odd season team just doesn't understand how modern ARPG audience just wants to have fun and still treats this as a 90s grindfest. Season after season, we deliver the same message and season after season, he/she just doesn't get it. Its almost like talking to a wall.

@rjplol9039 14 күн бұрын

i was bash barb last season and i want to run whirlwind or flay this season, which 1 is more fun

@alessioleporati1478 15 күн бұрын

One thing they can do to make the game better is every ten grim favors you get; you get a stack to whisper turn ins and you can stack whispers to 100 so you can keep farming whispers and grim favors without having the urgency of turning in your whispers.

@ajthedemon40 15 күн бұрын

Remember over 20 years ago when they figured this out in diablo 2 with faster cast rate and attack speed brackets. having an increasing jump between brackets.

@UtherPendragon-hu2wu 15 күн бұрын

Which program are you using to change your mouse pointer color? I am constantly looking for my mouse pointer while fighting in game.

@Shakk404 15 күн бұрын

@@UtherPendragon-hu2wu can change it in settings in-game

@Matt-gf4gd 15 күн бұрын

The caps are just a lazy approach to balancing. The better aproach is to adjust the scaling to account for balancing without artificially hard capping build possibilities.

@YouOnlyLiveOnce... 15 күн бұрын

At some point they gonna cap max DMG to 1 million and call it a day - there you have a balanced game 🤣

@xoxozorro 11 күн бұрын

About movement speed, i'm on 190% with my Barb, using shouts does kinda not speed me up, or is it jezt such a little amount?

@flaviogcmll8706 15 күн бұрын

Can you give us those excel sheets for download pleaseee! (The builds rank too, s5)

@TheGrimreaver666 12 күн бұрын

How are these caps gonna work with the legendary glyphs coming out in the dlc

@seanwhite9084 15 күн бұрын

Hey Rob can you maybe mention to blizzard about changing Splended sparks so that the use of one of them can reset a tempering?

@txhookey5608 15 күн бұрын

Sometimes it seems like Diablo 4 treats seasons like the full game. If someone wants to spend 12 hours a day blasting the season, let them be turbo powerful. If someone wants to play 4 or 5 hours a week, let them get to some end game content and possibly level up another alt. Season 4 was epic because you got the xp and gold bonus and even a casual could get 4 toons through the Iron Wolf campaign and get an Uber. I usually level one character to 100 each season then lose interest. Season 5 looks like they are offended by the full time blasters crushing end game content. They are full time blasters, they should be crushing end game content. The focus shouldn't be on making the game "more hard" through random reduced damage and raising the XP of bosses, the focus should be on balancing the classes and gameplay so that casuals can get a toon or two to 100 and have some end game success. The focus should be on something powerful and unique like the Iron Wolf campaign that rewards your time playing the game. The Odd seasons just can't seem to get it right. Let the casuals have some fun playing whatever class they want, let the blaster do trillions of damage, introduce something new, interesting, and fun. Stop being the fun police. It's a game. It's a season, it's not eternity, let it be a fun one.

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

Iron wolf is season journey trash that is a large part of what ruined d3, as soon as I read that your opinion became irrelevant. Also, stop saying “let them” like the casual is a baby, just comes off as infantilizing.

@SolarBurn 11 күн бұрын

Time to boycott the game yet again

@thailandsniper4444 15 күн бұрын

Make status impact the caps, is this a good idea?

@facelessman3685 14 күн бұрын

Was dust devil size capped in S4 before todays patch? I hadn't noticed before and now noticing it's capped at 100

@facelessman3685 14 күн бұрын

If it was already limited, I guess I really wasted some tempers, since 1 temper gives 84% alone.

@BatDad-qu4fo 15 күн бұрын

I think some things were capped because of new uniques and unique reworks. People were upset that Bash tempering was nerfed, which is basically a huge reduction in the cap it could reach, but there are new uniques coming that still make it viable. I wonder if some of the other caps are done for that reason as well. Even with Gushing Wounds capped on the PTR, bleed Barb was still super strong.

@SponsoredbyPfizer 15 күн бұрын

Strange how rob did not have a problem with hard caps until it effects barbarians.

@BatDad-qu4fo 15 күн бұрын

@SponsoredbyPfizer Barb on the PTR was still busted too, so I'm not even sure what the complaint is. If anything Blizzard just needs to raise the other classes a bit and balance the Pit better so you don't need to do trillions of damage to push high.

@BloodyElbow707 15 күн бұрын

@@BatDad-qu4fo thats just blizzard 101, even in WoW. Instead of making the weaker builds and classes on par with the good ones, they nerf the good builds and classes so everything feels like shit. They have been doing it for like 2 decades now lol. Its never gonna change, they will never learn

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

Except this patch is capping thunderstruck, a Druid node. What’s your point?

@chaddrusso8850 15 күн бұрын

Blood rage has been capped for like two seasons what are you on about?

@chezwickcheese139 15 күн бұрын

I see what you’re trying to do, nice try.

@navispill9481 15 күн бұрын

What i don't understand is that Season 4 was a great formula in the end players were enjoying almost everything why everytime they've to do 1 step forward, 3 steps back.... PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

@Awlansee 15 күн бұрын

"you guys are enjoying the season right? Not anymore!"

@mattc9556 14 күн бұрын

This is an insightful, well thought through video Rob. Please keep more of these coming. Appreciated.

@vasili_pupkin_1 15 күн бұрын

Their cap-everything politics capped me from their game.

@gablynx8720 15 күн бұрын

Hello everyone. Sorry that this is off topic. About the season 5 infernal hordes, maybe it would be interesting to get something like a "macabre lottery" instead of boons and banes. You don't know what you will get, example: ashava + 5 treasure goblins, or 2 butchers + 3 tomb lords, or andariel + 3 hellbornes. What do you think?

@dpsglitch9705 15 күн бұрын

Taking a break till October. Playing TFD. Loving it!!!

@DatPuz 15 күн бұрын

I agree that the paragaon caps are bad. Stuff like Obols being capped makes sense, they want you to feel the need to spend your Obols. If there was no cap, you would feel like you need to hoard them and save them for some uncertain future date when you have a better use for them.

@craigweimer9480 15 күн бұрын

I agree strongly with your statement here, caps are capping our fun, lame as fuck.

@cuongkim6381 14 күн бұрын

Why don't they make build storage cabinets and add weapons for other classes like barbarrian

@Shakk404 15 күн бұрын

Gg man…don’t think I’m playing s5 this was the icing on top.

@Shawn-bo7sm 15 күн бұрын

oh no and you were the main character too!

@yojimbojeet 15 күн бұрын

Dude your profile picture is hilarious 😂

@yojimbojeet 15 күн бұрын

Also I agree, I’ve moved onto other games for the time being tbh.

@joelhodoborgas 15 күн бұрын

Yeah S5 is a skip. Game already feels kinda pointless, ill save it for the xpac before i burn out.

@Shakk404 15 күн бұрын

@@Shawn-bo7sm classic response pal lol. Take it how you want it, that’s just my opinion Didn’t mean to offend you 🎻

@Jobboka 15 күн бұрын

Just imagine a world, where devs get asked on a Q&A: "Well, you've been failing to satisfy or impress your playerbase, when will you listen to the players?" they actually do and each month they put up polls asking what the playerbase wants implented or changed, then puts it up for a vote... Just... Just imagine 😮‍💨

@kudbettinkohen1935 15 күн бұрын

It’s not about that. They have different goals in mind. If they wanted to make the game good, literally one good dev could fix 90% of the issues in D4 every season (which are always self inflicted).

@joelhodoborgas 15 күн бұрын

Thanks for the info dude. gg

@manfredhoudek2385 15 күн бұрын

Every Sorc damage multiplier is capped in skills tree and paragon nodes, but the top builds are running uncapped damage multipliers.

@ricsouza5011 15 күн бұрын

the low cap in armor was great. made building easier, 1 less thing to be sweaty about

@DeagIeStyIe 15 күн бұрын

came back for season 4 but idk if i should play season 5 :[

@carsonbrink47 15 күн бұрын

Isn't gushing wounds a 5000% multiplier when all other key passives are at 25-40%?

@Skydogg5555 15 күн бұрын

not even close, go look at any build that scales victimize from rogue, then double that number because of a game breaking bug it has with double dipping lmfao

@atty.danilotuazon8776 15 күн бұрын

With your help sir Rob and other content creators the devs may have to reconsider these crazy and irrelevant caps.

@thomasgreed9581 12 күн бұрын

the problem is that i can´t use keystones without a cap like thunderstrcuk with shred, so i am very happy with the change. I think the only thing they forgot is barbs Gushing Wounds they need to make Gushing Wounds 40% so it is in line with the other caps

@locky2127 15 күн бұрын

Burning Instict being capped means that getting more crit damage will not just give you close to 0 benefit but exactly 0 benefit since DoTs can't crit. Such a stupid change. Either make crit damage not worth for dots or have a reason to stack more of it (even it isn't optimal).

@tasandmnm69 15 күн бұрын

Thunderstruck node was something I could continue to improve even after I had best in slot gear. It was the rare thing that I could continue to interact with to make small improvements but now it's just another no fun cap to achieve and forget about like resists/armor. Boring. Lightning Druids already get a huge shaft with offensive tempers, the Lightning duration is useless but at least we could stack damage to close/distant. Now we have diddly.

@firetrucksrule5383 14 күн бұрын

Isn't hemorrhage just a multiplier to your additive damage anyway? I was playing around with it and it scales up dot affixes. Like if you go into a dungeon, the node's effect doesn't show up in your stat screen in towns, with 100% damage with bleeding and throw hemorrhage on then you end up with damage with bleeding going up by the amount hemorrhage says it should. Unless it scales both additively and multiplicatively without saying so I'm pretty sure it's just a multiplier to your damage with bleeding bonus anyway, which as I understand is just additive with the rest of your regular damage bonuses. On the bright side it makes DoT affixes on weapons a decent copium roll.

@terekrutherford8879 15 күн бұрын

Haircut looks great!

@grantupton8291 15 күн бұрын

The problem is the multiplication on damage it can get out of control easily

@spencercurtis86 15 күн бұрын

At this point I think all the game developers have massive short positions on Activision stock lol

@stevenstephens504 15 күн бұрын

I think they are not capable of doing diminishing return in the game without it being bugged in a plus situation or in a negative situation. I'm really questioning the competency of blizzard devs.

@Tarrimaster 7 күн бұрын

Finally everyone gets to experience that Sorcerer life

@TheWooly 14 күн бұрын

Caps are most likely going to be used as a more manageable tuning knob.

@BadMunkey 14 күн бұрын

They also capped earthquake glyph didnt they?

@MortaresD2 15 күн бұрын

season of the caps!

@SeRiOuS1675 15 күн бұрын

damn I really hope next season isn't a dead one, new character is hopefully fun to experiment with

@Hosea405 15 күн бұрын

Easy fix: remove caps, limit tempers to 1 max of each specific temper, like aspects. I.E. if you already have bash damage on a weapon, you can't use it again on another item.

@Martin444444444 15 күн бұрын

Juggernaut is awesome when leveling up and also great for classes that can't get that much armor like a Barb as easily.

@kevinsims5791 15 күн бұрын

Even on sorc all you need is one armor affix and one total armor temper buff and your at max cap. Juggernaut is basically useless. They need to redesign it.

@Albulatova 15 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@Rob2628 15 күн бұрын

You re welcome thanks for the support! 💪🏻

@ivolyubenov4141 15 күн бұрын

Ok, what about an Experience cap - you are allowed to gain 1 level for each 60 minutes, right ?

@pedrocaixinhas7377 15 күн бұрын

This can only make sense if they somehow give you increase permanent stats by achieving goals or certain milestones. For example get 5 % increase damage while berserking for reaching pit 100 or get like a certain object that gives you this instead of just decoration to put on the horse! This could be also an endgame goal...

@XcaLiPaul 15 күн бұрын

It's all about calculation reqs by game. Hard caps easier to process since less variables.

@ethan007 15 күн бұрын

Blizzard should just cap everything on barb but release every caps on other class, that the best way of class balance.

@johne1743 15 күн бұрын

When you have one intern working on D4 at blizzard, just putting a hard cap is easier to do.

@zemekiel 15 күн бұрын

Blizzard needs to change their D4 designers ASAP! They should hire Rob, Raxx and Wudijo!

@Hosea405 15 күн бұрын

With DM as a community manager

@sandro108 15 күн бұрын

"Aren't you thankful?!" - Bashiok 2012. ( We nerfed IAS, but we could've nerfed more)

@EpicTroll-t5p 14 күн бұрын

Hi. There is one thing i want to talk about. Why all legendary items have 3 stats + 2 temps=5 total, uber uniques 5 total, and uniques have only 4? it will be amaizing if we will have opportunity to add 1 tempering to unique items. In this case we will have so many builds that finaly will work just because uniques will be no skrap any more

@sufreco12 15 күн бұрын

I played season 2 and 4 it seems that i would be playing just every other season, my friends quit the game because theres no build diversity, so sad tbh

@Martin444444444 15 күн бұрын

Caps or no caps, everyone is already running the same builds. Once meta is established most go for it.

@BatDad-qu4fo 15 күн бұрын

Yep. That's not a new concept and it will always be like that. I'd argue that to some degree, capping armor actually helped build diversity because you don't have to have so much and then can use different stats/aspects. Either way, once the meta is established, people tend to settle on what is best.

@dwightschrute5592 15 күн бұрын

but at least we had three fun and meta builds for barbs, three fun and meta builds for rogues. I had 6 characters and a lot of fun. Why not focusing on making sourcs better for our sourcs friends? Why not focusing on other important things?

@p7755fn 15 күн бұрын

simply the direction of the game in terms of balance is bad

@p7755fn 15 күн бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

@robertwelch1443 15 күн бұрын

PvP guys running Shadow Wave for Necro… that is going to get deleted with caps

@Ender7j 6 күн бұрын

My cap came with the Uber Uniques being required to push the Pit or leaderboards and the drop rates being non-existent. I played five characters to 100 and beyond, not a single one except for the one I forced the game to give me.

@x3TripleAce3x 14 күн бұрын

Soft caps is needlessly complicated for the multiplier nodes, just bring them down to earth and cut their values to a fifth of what they are and keep it uncapped. They gave everyone a shit ton more ways to stack a specific stat with tempering and masterworking so instead of rebalancing the nodes they capped them, it's stupid.

@francescopace7079 15 күн бұрын

Capping movement speed will make it easier to get one shotted now when didge is on cooldown.

@arashmollaeipour 15 күн бұрын

it was like this in wow since idk start i guess and now its on diablo :D i hope they plan good things for expansion but i dont think so

@sumnersmash7485 15 күн бұрын

Yeah they put caps on nerfing builds by 50/75 percent. It’s crazy I feel they don’t put much thought into the process

@LittleRadicalThinker 15 күн бұрын

Agreed. I think we should given the option to make builds around paragon board with uncapped potential, similarly, make builds around uniques and aspects, maybe not aspects, but the point is, allow builds around something unique. The game needs a total revamp of itemizations still. Aspects and uniques are like totally the same. Give uniques unique identities, not something like just no way to temper. This is stupid. Uniques are build changing, sure, but same as aspects. Druid’s shockwave aspect is changing how pulverize works, it’s build defining, it should be a unique item, same as sorc gravitation aspect, ball lighting becomes blessed hammers with dominion rune, these should be uniques, not aspects. I don’t know, D4 is just going on some very weird design direction.

@mr_allba1453 14 күн бұрын

I think his right on the money with lowering the amount you get from the multiplicative paragon nodes as apose to as apose to capping them and armour cap needs to be removed but in sayibg that juggernaut will need a nerf. I have no issue with movement speed cap though I don't want to see people running 300km per hour it will destroy the ambience.

@stuffinyrmuffin8447 15 күн бұрын

100% agree, i was really sad when i logged into s4 and found out they capped size after seeing the PTR vids. all these caps are so free to hit, so boring

@Awrelio 10 күн бұрын

I'm okay with nerfing nodes, IF they buff EVERY build that uses that node to balance it An example - nerfing thunderstruck and then they did 0 changes with Wind Shear build, just killing builds ?

@Knowledge.to_Come 15 күн бұрын

It doesn’t feel like hell unless it’s nerf city

@MrRamirezz 15 күн бұрын

If they don't remove all the nerfs for season 5, I won't play it. It's as simple as that. I think season 4 was the best, but now they're going from an alright season to a terrible one.

@Tobez 14 күн бұрын

Agreed. Hard caps make it boring. If I want to invest and sacrifice a bunch of tempers to build that multiplier, I should be able to do that.

@flowqi212 14 күн бұрын

I think the defense caps are pretty fine. It should be possible for every build to reach the caps. Armor is easy for Barbs, resis are easy for Sorc, but in general you have to decide what you want to sacrifice to get the caps. Juggernaut is from a different age ^^. Damage is another topic. I think in the current state of the game the caps are necessary because balance already is wild. To make it more interesting they could simply offer more options. Barb has Blood Rage and everything else is for bleed builds. There could be more options for damage vs close/distant/CC. And before anyone will cry again about 4 Barb weapons... they can simply tune down the values, its not rocket science.

@warrennicholls1849 14 күн бұрын

Caps make it interesting to try to min-max builds and balance your stats, rather than dumping everything into one stat. Also not every class can hit armor cap as easily as barbs haha.