Diablo 4 - Uber Lilith Minion Necromancer (Season 4)

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Kongren

Kongren

Ай бұрын

After a whole year since the release of the game, Uber Lilith finally feels balanced - she's not easy at all, but she's also not abysmally hard like in the pre-season. She definitely feels like a proper pinnacle boss now. Some of the QoL changes also make the fight way more enjoyable. The attempt in the video wasn't perfect by any means and I could have significantly improved my gear before attempting this, but it was good enough to get the job done. There are a couple of remarks though:
1. In every 3-4 attempts, Lilith's health bar in phase 1 gets stuck at around 1% and she can't be killed, which voids the attempt.
2. Minions and especially the golem, who is my main damage source, are dying way too often, which makes the fight way longer. Eventhough I was trying my best to not have them killed (moving towards the opposite corner on every platform break and placing blisters in phase 2 in the left corner) they're still dying too much. We definitely need to have a command function to control minion movement, because the AI is just terrible.
3. Uber Lilith still doesn't drop the resplendent spark 4 days into the season, which is kind of unacceptable considering that it's an easy fix.
Although we didn't have a seasonal mechanic (Iron Wolf doesn't really count), the improvements that they've made to the game are a huge step in the right direction and are good enough to make the season worth playing.

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@germantimofeev7392
@germantimofeev7392 Ай бұрын
This is exactly how this fight should be. Right now, this is the best Lilith video I've seen. Congratulations.
@fjmhermanhbk
@fjmhermanhbk Ай бұрын
Siempre es así … no se de que hablas
@christopherpaulo6818
@christopherpaulo6818 Ай бұрын
The two item drop is disrespectful
@radarvectors9794
@radarvectors9794 Ай бұрын
The best video. especially showing your gear setup, thank you!
@aim_potatoe_5325
@aim_potatoe_5325 Ай бұрын
GG finally a kill which is not only one shooting her. To play the whole fight is a real achievement ❤
@CajunMan180
@CajunMan180 Ай бұрын
Damn I was having trouble with this fight literally until i saw this video. Just did it after my 200th attempt
@JR-xh3pc
@JR-xh3pc 26 күн бұрын
Can someone help me with it. I'm still a bit underleveled but working on it.
@oliz4618
@oliz4618 14 күн бұрын
LOL😂😂😂 I do oneshot her, still couldnt make it yet... tried at least 200 times! Still trying, every fu**ing day!!! Its the last part which kills me every time and every time it is something else killing me... Watched so many vids, running in circles blablabla... Didnt make it yet. 60000hp
@lukej8466
@lukej8466 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for showing gear and abilities this helped alot
@arturasv9984
@arturasv9984 Ай бұрын
That most realistic fight against her in all internet, man gz
@MidwestMetalHead
@MidwestMetalHead Ай бұрын
From the patch notes for the May 28th patch 1.4.1. "Fixed an issue where End Game bosses were dealing more damage than intended in certain scenarios." This has to be about Uber lilith.
@frankschwarz408
@frankschwarz408 Ай бұрын
It's true. I survived some certain abilities from her that used to one shot me.
@Yonnie6996
@Yonnie6996 Ай бұрын
@@frankschwarz408 the 1.4.1 hasnt been applied yet lol
@ItsYashu
@ItsYashu Ай бұрын
@@Yonnie6996 he is from the future
@pietpadda593
@pietpadda593 Ай бұрын
Think it's just for the pit bosses >> mobs before. Pit bosses are getting some damage nerfs. Lilith is just right, it's her mechanics that need to be mastered.
@MidwestMetalHead
@MidwestMetalHead Ай бұрын
@@pietpadda593 Not when I can tank hits from a level 200 pit boss all day but. Get on shot by Lilith even when I don't have any debuff stacks on me. That's not a skill issue that's just bullshit.
@imnotchikao6317
@imnotchikao6317 Ай бұрын
Amazing kill! I’ve returned after pre season and only managed to kill her back when Bone Spear meta was rampant. Looks like Minions is back on the menu!
@CajunMan180
@CajunMan180 Ай бұрын
Minions is back on the menu and shes a LOT harder than preseason
@imnotchikao6317
@imnotchikao6317 Ай бұрын
@@CajunMan180 No kidding, those flying ghost attack man! They hit hard, I’m just glad it’s way easier to dodge those wave attacks she does.
@HoodedMushroom
@HoodedMushroom Ай бұрын
I feel like iam playing completely different fight... Damage output is very similar with my golem build, yet shes not returning to the platform to be hit, just flying, spawning bs attack and staying imune. And suddenly one hit kills me from nowhere.
@winstoncampbell6180
@winstoncampbell6180 Ай бұрын
Nice one bro
@kvostavabrato
@kvostavabrato Ай бұрын
hey you are a real gamer, gg. just a quick question - i see you dont have attack speed on your rings and you got Crit damage instead. is it better? is it worse? is it the same? i am a bit confused. also playing a golem build, cheesing 1st phase with 1bln damage hits, deadge in 2nd phase because i am not a god gamer... will I hit bigger with the crit damage or should i stick to the attack speed?
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
Attack speed on the gloves and minion attack speed on the weapon should be good enough. You have other sources of attack speed, so diminishing returns will start to kick in if you add even more on other pieces of gear. By the looks of it, you're not struggling because of damage, so I'm not sure if DPS improvements would be of much use. I suggest trying to form a strategy and sticking with it on every attempt. Almost everything is predictable in phase 2, so you can cheese it by abusing the boss mechanics. The most important thing about phase 2 is controlling the blisters. If you'd like to replicate my strategy, place all blisters in the left corner, so that after the final platform break they're all going to get destroyed by Lilith and before that happens, have Blood Mist up for situations where you'll be forced to go in the cluster of blisters. If you haven't failed on any mechanics or only on 1-2, then standing on top of the blisters isn't going to really hurt you and you stand on top of them after every Lilith ability, until she spawns a blister. With a little bit of luck, the blister on the right side is going to disappear from staggering her, but it's not necessary since it's going to get destroyed after the second platform break anyway. Good luck with the fight!
@disbled
@disbled Ай бұрын
You want to get 100% attack speed bonus as it boosts the cult leader paragon node. Attack speed on gloves and rings + frenzied dead aspect should get u there.
@gaspar7166
@gaspar7166 Ай бұрын
Could you please link the build you're using? I'm starting necro rn and this build seems great
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
You can see the build in the video after the kill. It's pretty much the Maxroll minion necromancer build with some tweaks that I've made specifically for this fight. Have fun with the build!
@zorankornet8929
@zorankornet8929 18 күн бұрын
Great fight! What's your crit chance?
@ronanfloyd7359
@ronanfloyd7359 Ай бұрын
real as hell
@mrchild5588
@mrchild5588 Ай бұрын
Why my lilith bug, it dont even take damage at all :(
@frankschwarz408
@frankschwarz408 Ай бұрын
Can we see a link to your build?
@qualityplasmid7260
@qualityplasmid7260 Ай бұрын
Nice run man, ggs. Tell me, how do you feel about the "Mutation" and "Infused Golem" paragon nodes. Seems like the maxroll build isn't using them, is there a reason not to go for more golem damage at this point ?
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
Because they're additive with all other golem damage nodes and gear affixes. If you've min-maxed your gear with tempering and masterworking, you're going to have so much golem damage that those nodes are barely going to be an improvement. If your gear is still weak, it's justifiable to drop the health and stat nodes leading up to them in the Bone Craft board.
@steveh8070
@steveh8070 Ай бұрын
Golem dying is super annoying in this fight
@muharremkpln
@muharremkpln Ай бұрын
Build link pls 😊
@rremnar
@rremnar 22 күн бұрын
I play as summon/ce necro, and i'm level 93. Last time I tried to fight Lilith, I couldn't damage Lilith in any signficant way. What's up with that? Do you need max master worked gear?
@craigsmith1298
@craigsmith1298 21 күн бұрын
Max level, 6 maxed paragon nodes to level 21, masterwork gear, correct stat roles on each piece of gear
@tonexbot
@tonexbot Ай бұрын
So amazing. I hadn't finished this boss since launched, now it's S4, they made her impossible for me to kill.
@jackmcdonnell2269
@jackmcdonnell2269 Ай бұрын
Skill issue
@dannynicholson50
@dannynicholson50 Ай бұрын
​@@jackmcdonnell2269 for once I agree with condescending dickhead comments like this, took me a while to learn her mechs but once I got them I burnt her so hard
@ShaadowOfLight
@ShaadowOfLight Ай бұрын
How the hell are you not taking damage when you are standing at falling flor at 2:48? If I do that I die instantly, if I stand on the other side I also die, no matter in which spot I stand during this moment I just die, previous verions of lilith didn't work like that, when I was standing where you stand it was fine you just had to take off it just before it completly falls but this is not the case for me anymore.
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
In terms of when you're safe to cross over to the other side, things haven't changed - you still need to move over after the red stuff has disappeared from the platform. The only thing that has changed is the blister placement and maybe that's throwing you off, because the top blister is placed right under Lilith as she's breaking the platform and it's hard to see incoming bolts from it. If you're not getting hit by the bolts and you're actually dying from the platform break itself, then I suggest immediately moving over to the safe area when the red thing disappears.
@ShaadowOfLight
@ShaadowOfLight Ай бұрын
@@Kongren94 Started to pay more attention and the thing that kills me are these shadow bolts, I guess these things were not doing as much damage in the past as now.
@Mushnp
@Mushnp Ай бұрын
@@ShaadowOfLight The shadow balls used to one shot you, like hard one shot, no matter your gear.
@dannynicholson50
@dannynicholson50 Ай бұрын
​@Mushnp for some reason though this build can take a hit of spikes too... so it gives a safety net
@JR-xh3pc
@JR-xh3pc 26 күн бұрын
Can someone help me with it. I'm still a bit underleveled but working on it.
@Unitryderz
@Unitryderz Ай бұрын
I played disco Sorc in season2 and deleted this,have they changed her? Seemed to take for ever to kill? How’s season4 so far?
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
In season 2 her health was way too low and pretty much any build was able to delete her. They've changed her in multiple ways this season to make her more challenging and fair: - It takes about the same amount of time as in the pre-season to kill her with a non-oneshoting build. - Her former instant death abilities now do low damage at the start, but apply a stacking debuff that exponentially increases your damage taken from everything. Realistically, you're allowed to make 2-3 mistakes at most before you enter instant death territory. - The four blisters that get spawned at the start of phase 2 get spawned in a diamond shape. They used to spawn in a square formation, which meant that two of them were getting deleted on the first platform break. In other words, you have more blisters to deal with now and managing them is even more important. - The bolts that get spawned from the blisters now have a blue color, which is a huge QoL change. When comparing kill times, just keep in mind that my gear was quite weak and it's possible to kill her way faster with this build. After doing a quick search, I stumbled upon a video of a player using the same golem build and got her down in 3 minutes, pretty much skipping all phase 2 mechanics. I simply didn't want to improve my gear, because I knew that it was good enough. I stopped playing right after killing her and pushing a bit in the pit, since those were my goals for the season, but overall it has been a pretty fun season. If you haven't played it yet, I suggest doing so. Eventhough there's no seasonal mechanic and all changes are related to the base game, it's definitely worth putting in at least a couple of days to try it out, combined with the fast character and glyph leveling.
@allenryan6071
@allenryan6071 Ай бұрын
Is health capped? Just asking…
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
There's no health cap.
@trikztar
@trikztar Ай бұрын
Heh .. I'm never going to complete this fight - too many mechanics to remember .. oh well.
@seanobrien1323
@seanobrien1323 Ай бұрын
I keep getting one shot no matter what and my build is about 80%- 90% similar to yours.
@williamfischer9470
@williamfischer9470 Ай бұрын
I have all the damage i guess my 400 less intelligence and 1400 less life is whats holding me back because this is pretty much what im running too. Tried fighting her and got humbled hard.
@kapiteinlulhaas7612
@kapiteinlulhaas7612 Ай бұрын
Respect my man. Im not respeccing for one fight though. If i wanted to memorize boss patterns id go play dark souls. Shove that resplendent spark up your ass sideways blizzard.
@BottomFocus
@BottomFocus 25 күн бұрын
Minion Necro makes Uber Lilith look difficult.
@ni7aa425
@ni7aa425 Ай бұрын
wait why 14k armor ?
@n0_L1FE-vr7mb
@n0_L1FE-vr7mb 28 күн бұрын
Probably just excess from Juggernaut Aspect
@Warmachine-tu5zo
@Warmachine-tu5zo 24 күн бұрын
I die randomly 90% of the time it seems like. Just one shot out of no where. 45k life I give up..
@leejm2
@leejm2 Ай бұрын
Why are you taking Reaper's Pursuit, I don't see you using any darkness skills
@DiscordTheology
@DiscordTheology 29 күн бұрын
You have to take it to get to the next part of the board, are you acustic bro?
@micbln8967
@micbln8967 Ай бұрын
why 15k armor? it's capped at 9.5k
@TV-xv1le
@TV-xv1le Ай бұрын
Nope it's actually like 13k vs level 150 mobs. Level 100 mobs sure.
@veeguo0
@veeguo0 Ай бұрын
Nope 9500 all lvs
@jumpjack15
@jumpjack15 Ай бұрын
It is capped around 9500 lol
@Shaera574
@Shaera574 Ай бұрын
@@TV-xv1leit’s not lol
@xdarknbloodx9590
@xdarknbloodx9590 Ай бұрын
It's capped in this season, 9230 to be exact.
@heliopkad
@heliopkad Ай бұрын
build is pretty standard but the gameplay is gg.
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
Yeah, minion necromancer is the flavor of the season, so there's nothing special about the build. Although, it's a shame that the minion AI is poor and they die to easily avoidable mechanics if you had some control over them.
@heliopkad
@heliopkad Ай бұрын
@@Kongren94 yes i learned this yesterday fightning uber andariel, my golem died 5 times before i could finally kill him.
@andrestrong6198
@andrestrong6198 Ай бұрын
Bro can you post a build link please 🙏🏾
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
I've shown the build after the kill and I only forgot to show the potion - it's the crit chance one.
@ShaneMcGrath.
@ShaneMcGrath. Ай бұрын
Deserve a thumbs up for not using the stupid 1 shot builds like most youtubers. I tried several times and can't do it the legit way, She one shots me. Maybe I'm too old, Too much BS happening on the screen to see what is happening, They should tone this fight down it's a joke.
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
It's definitely a mechanically challenging fight, but I don't necessarily agree that she's overtuned. Maybe if we consider that Diablo 4 is a game that caters more towards casual players, you're probably right, but for me personally Uber Lilith is in the best state she's ever been. In the pre-season even a single mistake was a guaranteed death, now you can get away with two mistakes, maybe even three if you're tanky enough, so it's a lot more forgiving. Nonetheless, I hope you manage to get her down with enough practice and patience. Realistically, this is still the most challenging boss in the game, if we exclude super high pit tiers, so there's nothing else to put so much effort in.
@deadman6639
@deadman6639 Ай бұрын
Can’t one shot her anymore apparently
@la_dose5206
@la_dose5206 Ай бұрын
All tormented bosses and Lilith have that. They have generalized a design of "grace debuff" of some mechanics that you can eat once or twice in the whole fight then one-shots (horned demon debuff stacks, see 4:00 ). And ramping debuff from usual damage.
@siri7005
@siri7005 Ай бұрын
Not all content is for everyone. I haven't killed her yet myself but I've started putting in the time. I'm not usually one to do the really tough stuff so it's been really rough. Initially I just died to everything because I didn't see/understand what was happening but now I consistently get to the second add phase where what kills me more often than not is having all the blood spawn out of the adds at once and not being able to get it in time while dodging things. If I get past it I get to phase 2, and then I typically die because the golem keeps dying and I haven't had much practice with mechanics yet 🤣 I hope they don't nerf her, just make it so minions (or the golem mostly) don't die to things out of your control. And also fix the bug where the boss is invulnerable.
@LucemFerre82
@LucemFerre82 Ай бұрын
Second phase is just impossible, there's no way to avoid the glowing balls when she sucks you in, I get 1 shot 100%
@v0nklamke
@v0nklamke Ай бұрын
You HAVE TO have bloodmist ready, otherwise it will just suck you through those balls.
@GreenEggAndSAM2
@GreenEggAndSAM2 Ай бұрын
I’m so bad at Lilith. Any advice?
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
It's kind of hard to give proper advice without knowing where you're struggling, but here are some general pointers: - Make sure your gear and build are good enough for the fight; 30k+ health, armor/resistance capped and enough DPS to quickly kill the adds. Also strongly suggested to have at least 50% movement speed, especially if you're playing a necromancer. - In phase 1 the biggest issue are the waves - learn their patterns and be quick to react to them. Save your mobility and invulnerability cooldowns for situations, in which just your movement speed wouldn't be enough to save you. - In phase 2 the most important thing is blister management. The easiest way to handle them in my opinion is by placing all of them in the left corner, like I'm doing in the video, so that they get deleted by her final platform break and have as few blisters as possible for the final part of the fight. Whenever you're forced to go into the cluster of blisters, use your mobility and invulnerability cooldowns to avoid getting hit by the bolts. After the final platform break, it's better to place them in the middle, because you'll be dodging all of her mechanics on the edges of the platform. It's even more important to not have any blisters on the edges, because of the new mechanic that gets introduced at the end. Again, this is just my opinion on how you should be managing the blisters, there might be an easier way to do it, but this is what I've come up with. The rest of her mechanics are kind of self-explanatory on how to handle them. If there's something more specific that you'd like to know or struggling with, feel free to ask. Good luck with the fight!
@Jacobssworld
@Jacobssworld Ай бұрын
I can’t kill her even with this build :(
@JayceBrock
@JayceBrock Ай бұрын
She doesn’t drop shit they should fix that
@rubi84
@rubi84 Ай бұрын
i hope not, else we would have to farm her....
@GabrielGonzalez-mw9cg
@GabrielGonzalez-mw9cg Ай бұрын
Dang. Skill issue for me i guess lol.
@fnzvsaz5216
@fnzvsaz5216 Ай бұрын
how the fuck are you able to damage her??? i get her to 50% hp and when she does the go up and down phase i literally have ZERO time to attack her, my minions always hitting the adds, blood orbs..i literally cant damage her at that time no matter how much i dodge her abilities i just die when i make a single mistake
@Kongren94
@Kongren94 Ай бұрын
That's weird, you shouldn't be dying to the first made mistake. They've changed her in such a way that her former one-shot abilities are now applying a stacking debuff, which exponentially increases your damage taken. If you are in fact dying to the first made mistake, I strongly suggest improving your survivability first (armor/resistance capped and 30k+ health). As far as it goes for your minions, Lilith stops going up and down when you kill the adds, so there's nothing wrong with your minions focusing on them. Not to mention that the volatile bloods have the highest priority, because you must not allow them to explode.
@v0nklamke
@v0nklamke Ай бұрын
This video put me to shame. I have better gear than you, yet still I constantly die during the last 5-10% of her healthbar, due to those light balls. Maybe the bat/dash immunity would help...
@igormarroni1511
@igormarroni1511 Ай бұрын
very hard
@pietpadda593
@pietpadda593 Ай бұрын
My gear is better, but I just can't figure out how to beat those waves. Keep dying.
@lov.2.g
@lov.2.g Ай бұрын
Check mine 😮
@mindpyre1189
@mindpyre1189 Ай бұрын
Uber Lilith is not supposed to drop a resplendant spark, only the tormented version (level 200) This version is a walk in the park and no reward needed
@mjdeluxe
@mjdeluxe Ай бұрын
there is no tormented version of lilith. blizz said killing her for the first time in s4 will drop a spark so it's a bug
@sherlockholms1018
@sherlockholms1018 Ай бұрын
A walk in the park. Hum maybe not lol.
@artemkoropotkin3047
@artemkoropotkin3047 Ай бұрын
This boss is meant to drop a spark. Blizz has addressed that there is a current bug that is preventing the spark from dropping. Stop spreading misinformation.
@EN57981
@EN57981 Ай бұрын
Lmfao "oNlY ThE tOrMenTeD vERsIoN".... you probably don't even know where the first capstone dungeon is but you come here trying to act like you know whats up
@VasudevaTheFerryman
@VasudevaTheFerryman Ай бұрын
​@@artemkoropotkin3047is this fixed? I wanna kill her but sin the spark
@Kasijas
@Kasijas Ай бұрын
Did they change this boss this season? I don’t remember Lilith being this hard of a fight. My minion necro has good gear and it shreds other bosses but idk why I do very little damage to Lilith. And my minions always get distracted and attack the blister while golem stays on Lilith. And I can’t even kill the blisters without forcing my golem to come over..
@frankschwarz408
@frankschwarz408 Ай бұрын
I have to agree. Although I'm playing a minion build which I never have and they nerfed some of her abilities that one shot players, I was not able to burst her down like I was in previous seasons. So she feels a little tougher. I've gotten her down to 10 percent a handful of times but her floating blue orbs in the 2nd phase have gotten me every time.
@c1eLno1r
@c1eLno1r Ай бұрын
I don't get it, I have pretty much the same build, yet I'm getting one shotted by her normal attacks, and I can't kill blood blisters. Yet I'm doing lvl 60 pits without holy bolt.
@MidwestMetalHead
@MidwestMetalHead Ай бұрын
I'm doing lvl 80 pits without holy bolt with ease but my necro is still getting the one shot bullshit from lilith. Even when I have no stacks of the debuff.
@dubelk_1
@dubelk_1 Ай бұрын
I've got the same problem.
@akara472
@akara472 Ай бұрын
same, is this skill issue lol
@ichdu4493
@ichdu4493 Ай бұрын
EXACTLY the same here, i am doing like 10% of his dmg and take 100% more
@nottellingy0u
@nottellingy0u Ай бұрын
Build link please?
@BDOGreatSaiyanMan
@BDOGreatSaiyanMan Ай бұрын
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