I actually think the form factor is good. Not putting flagship camera's for basically a $2000 phone is unacceptable. If they would have put the cameras from the s24 Ultra I would have already pre ordered. I am holding out for the Pixel fold 2.

The Fold 6 reminds me of basically a mini Galaxy Ultra, that folds. Obviously the cameras aren't as good but they should be good enough. I think the most important part for me, and what most regular consumers should consider is... Most people purchase devices and upgrade by trading them in. Outside of iPhones, no Android phones hold their value in terms of trade-ins, like Samsung. This makes Samsung phones infinitely more valuable compared to OnePlus and Googles products... Again, for the general consumer.

I'm still hoping for a Duo 3

The great thing about the fold 6 coming out is unlocked new and refurbished fold 5's are going to be cheap on Amazon.

I'd need to see the Pixel 2 not getting hot and having better battery life than the Fold 6 for me to declare it a winner. It has a much bigger battery.

Personally, I think peoples expectations have become unrealistic. It's not realistic to expect massive changes to products year after year, indefinitely. That's not possible. I personally love this form factor. The more industrial look with the squared edges, the matte finish, the crease is reduced, the front display has been widened as far as it could possibly go with this form factor (I think). This looks highly refined and a nice upgrade. The only thing I can see there being valid disappointment around are the lack of camera upgrades. I don't care because I'm not a professional photographer, so the cameras are already more than I need, but that seems to be an area where they could improve this device. Future nice to haves would be no crease or as invisible as possible, built in S-Pen and...that's it for me. This is borderline perfection for my tastes with this form factor. Other form factors exist, but I think this is basically the best version of what Samsung is going for. A foldable that is easier to hold with a usable front display (one handed) that doesn't take away from the main display.

Extremely bland from Samsung. I hope they feel more pressure from Google and OnePlus, because this event showed that Samsung is still extremely complacent and has hardly had a huge innovation or product release in the last 5 years. I want to like there products and get interested as a android user, but I see almost no change in their foldable or wearables from 3 years ago.

Yeah, they raised the price by $100, but they also raised the trade-in by $200. So if you have a Fold 5, the fold 6 is actually $100 CHEAPER than the Fold 5 was. Either way, I'm not getting a Fold 6. I was hopeful up until yesterday, but the event made it clear for me that I'm not getting a Fold 6.

It's not really lack luster. I Messed with the Zfold6 love the feel of it. Feels and looks wider than you would think. A tad bit wider would be perfect in my opinion. Cameras are better at least in my comparison it seemed clearer specially when zoomed in. But wish it had the ultra cameras.

I'm surprised there haven't been that many leaks of the pixel fold 2.

I hope the Pixel Fold does a great job at offering things that the Z Fold 6 doesn't, and that the Z Fold continues with its current design philosophy so that people who like the narrow design will continue to have that. I could barely care less what the Z Fold does with its camera personally, and the battery is rarely an issue so a little more battery efficiency a year is plenty as far as I'm concerned. I just want a fold that's reliable, has a small outer screen, has a large inner screen, has a stylus, and has an under-display camera. No other fold has that feature set, so regardless of what impressive feats another fold can manage it would not be the one for me.

You have to understand. This is actually genius. I only buy phones every other year, but folds are too pricey for that every 3 years. Th3 6 is not an upgrade for z4 or 5 users it's for 3 users. Think about it this way, and it makes sense.

There are two things I'm hoping for. Better multitasking and video-out. I don't expect desktop mode yet, but having the possibility in Android 16 or 17 would be big.

What's crazy for me is I've seen more folds in real life compared to any Pixel.

This is going to be my first fold. I knew the cameras weren't getting upgraded, but my thought was if they used titanium, I would get it. The titanium build feels so nice and is great against scratches. This me justifying my purchase lol

I actually like the Fold 6 width even with it's basic cameras. I hope they don't make it any wider. The one thing I'd like to see it it being thinner or thin as the Magic V2.

As long as they keep using those shitty Tensor chips, then hell no! A folding phone is as close to a laptop as you're gonna get. You will want a fast CPU that can edit video and multi task. If you need a pocket warmer, then sure go with the folding pixel phones! 😛

Most people don't upgrade year to year especially with an expensive foldable. I think the biggest upgrade people are missing is the weight reduction especially when compared to the ZF3 which is a likely upgrade path. Weight has always been my biggest critique.

These prices are nutty. Buying it used would probably still be way too expensive.

I really like using Samsung's software ... But this Unpacked event was the most underwhelming one from them in such a long time. I find it funny that they leaned in on Google Ai features (which I know is a huge partnership) but why wouldn't you go with the company that made them in the first place. First time I'm actually waiting to see what Google has to offer before pulling the trigger on a new foldable. Great content as always

The fact the just barely made the front screen wider and did nothing wit the cameras left it open for the pixel to topel them if they fix the overheating. Personal question to everyone? What is the major hang up on making the phone slimmer!? Their sacrificing so much to make the phone a few grams lighter. The tech isn't there enough yet to go for thin and still have all the things the consumer actually want. 🙏🏾

I feel like people forget what makes these phones unique: The inner screen. So they can add all of these bells and whistles but i hope they improve the inner screen. One plus open's screen is pretty darn good.

Not with a Samsung produced Tensor chip... They just aren't nearly good enough. The only way Google could've made Pixels truly competitive with Samsung produced Tensor chips, would be to cut pricing by around $150 for slabs and $200-$300 for foldables.

I feel like Google is flakey with their decisions and this reflects in my pixel fold, it's software, and will undoubtedly be present in the pixel fold 2. Making it feel like an unknown quantity. My time with my Pixel Fold has been okay, not great so I'm going back to Samsung, not coz it's amazing hardware etc, but coz it gets everything to a level of "alright" that makes for a more consistent experience. If I were to list all the small issues the pixel fold has that the 2 will adopt we would be here all day.

The only thing Samsung has is really good discounts for trade in's but Google is known to be very offensive for trade in's especially trading in a pixel vs a iphone for a new pixel

Had a ZFold 3, then moved to OnePlus Open. MASSIVE upgrade. I now am using both the Pixel Fold and the Open. I pre ordered the ZFold 6 because it looks like a fantastic upgrade to the 3 I used to have. I think the slight form factor change is bigger than people think with the 6

Depends, if Google decided to release Pixel Fold in more countries and not with a $2000 price tag then yes

To me the only lackluster thing was the cameras and the price. To come out with the same cameras, that have been out since the Galaxy S22, it's just absurd. On top of that, they raised the price. Most foldables were lowering prices. But for them to go up, and providing nothing but an aesthetic update, is sad. In reality though, I think it's the best all around foldable out, and these refinements are incredible. So I still think they have a very tight grip on the market.

You know. I'm not even mad anymore at the z6 design. Samsung isn't going to leave the hotdog design. And ppl keep saying it'd the design over and over (and it is) but so is every other phone (foldable and slab). Moto has released the same flip 3 years in a row now. Vivo, huawei/honor also have released the same phone for different generations. The only thing they do that I wish samsung would do is UPDATE THE CAMERAS. I mean it's not like Apple with shipping the a15 iPhone 13 2 years in a row and calling it the iPhone 14 but daggum Samsung. If Google puts some real telephoto on the 2, I'm jumping ship

Almost 2 grand for a phone is insane. Plus, that damn front screen is still too narrow and small for me. I'm going to wait and see how the Pixel Fold 2 is going to be and if it's worth upgrading I'll get that one.

The Fold 6 is on pre order but I took a look at one in a tech store today - still a narrow front form factor I could not compare side by side with the fold 5 but it did not look much different, I think the crease was much less noticeable and the screen was definately bright and impressive when open. At the price they are asking i am prepared to wait and see if the fold 2 and the vivio are released in Australia - if not in the next few months i will reconsider as i would expect a few deals will be around towards the end of the year.

Pixel fold form factor is something I hate. Especially when you open it's too wide. That's why it isn't that popular.

I think this was a good update. They have now fixed most of the things that frustrated me with my Fold 2 * Finally a hopefully useful front display * They have finally fixed the weight so it won't pull my pants down * It is dust resistant (which is the reason my fold 2 died) So if this would have come out last year, it would have finally been enough upgrades so it would have been worth upgrading from 2 to 6. However the update is one year late and I am so happy I jumped on the OnePlus Open last year. Since it also fixed all issues my Fold 2 had and more. And from the videos I have seen the Fold 6 seams to still be a generation or two behind the Open. So I am so curious to get an honest comparison between Fold 6 and the Open. I'm not sure Samsung will be able to beat OnePlus even if the Open is a year old now.

I think that once you look at build quality, performance, hardware and software, overall the Fold will still come out on top. But I'm hoping another phone proves me wrong, this kind of competition is usually good for us consumers.

I feel that Samsung just released the fold 6 just get more life and $$$ out of this old form factor. They clearly have the ability to do more as demonstrated with the "Fold Slim" which is likely going to be their major headline update release next year when they finally put this form factor to rest.

Potential downside with Pixel 2 is that weight is likely not coming down much given it's getting larger.

Let’s be honest, all the Pixel devices have been incremental upgrades as well. The Pixel Fold will also be a small upgrade.

It's like Samsung wanted to only get people with a Fold 2 or 3 to upgrade. They could've done 1 of the requested features cameras, reasonably wider outer screen, S pen slot and at least it would've been worth discussing... Few with a Fold 4 or 5 will upgrade.

Man i went to Best buy today and had a chance to play with the z fold 6 and I was impressed. I wasn't blown away, but I was impressed. It's very light and super thin. It's not a huge upgrade over the z fold 5 but it's enough for me.

I will definitely go from the fold 5 to the pixel 2,if sold in Ireland

Pixel Fold 2 will have users who want actual tech upgrades who are coming from new phones like ZF5. First timers or old devices users it's hit or miss either way, yes; but Google's trade in values will ultimately cause it not to crush the Galaxy in my opinion.

Yes I agree, it is somewhat pointless to talk extensively about a phone that most people cant actually easily buy.

Just bought the fold 5, as a replacement for my Surface Duo 2 (people can't hear me or I not them in calls and the battery doesn't hold a charge as good anymore) Got it with my carrier contract for a €280 down payment. Also looked at the Fold 6, but had to pay €1000 with my carrier contract. So the fold 5 was a no brainer 😉

Ive had them all. Loved the form factor of pixel fold. Current driver is oneplus open. Not sure what could be improved from this phone. Its great. Maybe lighter, thinner but over all its perfect.

I don't trust Google especially when it took them forever to implement features to the pixel fold that were present on the Z series and other foldable phones.

Was one of them who thought why not top camera and bump in battery this year... But now after few days on F6 they did solid job and the small things you notice. But i would buy it on the new design itself, and around here they go for like 2500$ so Apple and Samsung is expensive phones and could easy scale the price down some. :)

The biggest thing pixel fold 2 needs to do, it needs to not feel worse than the "pro big screen" flagship. It needs to run beside it and not below it or the extra price tag will never be worth it.

I have been holding onto my s22 ultra, waiting for the right momento to upgrade for any of the z folds, but every time that they come out, it's always the same thing, no major improvements, just little tiny detail. My s22 ultra, a 2.5 year old phone, takes better picture than the zf6, charges faster than the zf6, the battery probably last longer than the zf6, and has an integrated s pen. Samsung is going to loose many of its costumers. I'm definitely going to wait for the pf2 and make the switch.

Was on board with everything you said until claiming the pixel fold outdoes the galaxy fold. Everyone knows about those garbage tensor chips!

I just really wanted updated cameras. I'm fine with everything else. I had a Fold and OP Fold and sent the One Plus back. I liked it, but the software was "meh" for me.

Google made a good move by moving the release date forward. Less time to wait now to see what the pixel fold is going to be like

I'm hoping I'll get a good trade-in for my pixel fold for the pixel fold 2. If so, I'm sold 🙂

samsung keep outer display ratio because they want the phone can be hold with one hand while it folded

Only tangentially related to the subject but the fact Samsung shipped the S23U with only 8GB of RAM(considering the S21U shipped with 12) is making me a little nervous for how well it'll be able to keep up in the next year or two.

just upgraded to fold 6 from fold 4

Samsung really running out of ideas or just doing the absolute minimal now days and only care about profit

Not too long ago, you could get a free top of the line cell phone for signing a 2 year contract with your carrier. Now they're up to $2,000. 😢

3:08 Sketch image that generate to Ai art, now this feature is definitely awesome 👍🏾. This image will make a good impact on the public minds. 😎💯💪🏾👍🏾 10:16 It appears that Samsung did leave a big gap for the Pixel fold to come through and shine. That remote concept for a cover display will deter the fussy people like me who will fuss over the poor design of certain phone form factor. Samsung are willfully remaining in the lackluster realm of things.

Battery, camera, water fold 2 has a chance. I really wanted an ultra fold with larger battery and ultra cameras,

Great video Shane. I enjoyed the slightly longer format. At this point I've already disqualified the Z fold 6, I'll be voting with my wallet as I have been since the z fold 2, it's still too skinny. I'll be waiting for the pixel fold 2 to make a decision, from all the little leaks we have seen I think it might be perfect, but incase there is a massive flaw and it falls smack on it's face, I'll get the OnePlus Open for cheap used 3rd party. By then I should be able to pick one up from Swappa for ~$700. Until then, my Note 20 Ultra remains the best phone on the market, even though my aging battery is starting to struggle to make it through a full day... I may just put a new battery in it and rock this baby for another 2 years haha

Fully depends on the Price. $1650 then yes. (Wishful Thinking).

Going from fold 2 to a fold 6 so I'm excited

I will absolutely get the Pixel Fold 2 aka Pixel 9 Pro Fold. However I bought the Vivo X Fold 3 Pro Global - which I believe is the best foldable currently. The hardware is awesome; the software is 'ok'. Normally I would have bought the Z Fold 6 - not this year - minimal upgrades and still a small cover display.

I think if they put the 9 pro xl cameras in it that'll be the decider, im almost sold but waiting for more specs to be released

Where is the OnePlus Open video? Link in the description? Pissing me off trying to look for that review.

The camera stovetop 🤣

Not gonna lie...I was skeptical of the fold 6 until I saw that pink joint. The OnePlus Open just does more. No new cameras, same battery, same charging speeds...I'm impressed they got it to the open's weight with no leather back but...I just don't know...they mostly can't keep up with the open...the pixel fold 2? Looks like it could be an entirely different beast. It's a wait and see moment but...the open is still the king until we see what Google does.

I am going to wait and see what the new fold z6 looks like and also see what Google comes out with before I upgrade to anything. I'm excited about the new pixel 2, but I'm curious to see what the six looks like again before I'm making decisions and to see what the price is and see what the trade-ins are

I have the Z Fold 3 because the front screen on the Z Fold 6 is still to small, ill wait until Next Year or just buy the Galaxy Ultra 25, Samsung has went stagnant on the Fold Series.

Pixel fold 2 NEEDS to keep the current form factor.

Like you I don't like that they changed the form factor, I wish they would have just made the outer screen a little better or leave it the same. The inner screen reduce the bezels a fair bit making it 8 in if possible with a reduced crease and updating the cameras. This would've been enough for me to take the plunge, now if they left the price the same but offered better trade in deals then even more so I'd be willing to swap. But as for what we may be getting if they offer better trade in deals then I might consider swapping from my S23 ultra.

thank you for the video Shane! :)

They left the door open for the OnePlus Open, not just the pixel fold 2 or OPO 2. Just for the crease and camera quality compared to the OPO

I can say it did leave the door open for me. I'm in the market for a folding phone this year, and seeing Samsung not really make any changes, I will not be pre ordering. Now I've decided to wait and see what Google has to offer.

I’m torn between the Fold 6 and OnePlus Open. Either one will be insured through Progressive so I am not concerned about delicate displays. Help me choose. The Pixel Fold is a NO GO with Tensor silicone.

An S Pen like device would be killer

I have a Z Food 6 preorder, trading in my Z Fold 5 I'm right at $600 for the 6. But I really prefer my Pixel Fold to the Z Fold. I'm really curious about the Google trade in offers, but I i feel like, at this point, I'm going to return my Z Fold 6 and order the Pixel Fold 2 when announced. Keep my Z Fold 5 as a backup and roll with the Pixel Fold 2 as my daily.

I actually think that the Tensor G3 is a great processor. I find that my pixel 8 pros battery is stellar (regularly get 10+ hours of SOT) and is plenty fast for what i need it to do. If the G4 is more efficient and slightly faster id be extremely happy. Currently waiting to see the 9 pro fold before i decide to go samsung or google for my first fold as I get really good deals with work

Hey Shane (or anyone else), any suggestions for a good quality glass screen protector for the OnePlus Open?

Well I had placed a pre-order for the ZFold 6 and Watch ultra which I have canceled today as I was not wanting the Samsung experience just love the Pixel too much. I am hoping that the Pixel Fold 2 will be a step up from the already brilliant Pixel Fold which I am sure it will be just concerned about the screen crease and new design.

They increased the price by $100 but also increased the trade in value and credits by $500

I love the pixel fold form factor. But im open for the fold 2 change. I left samsung at the fold 3 cuz they made no real life use change for me. Cant wait to see what the pf2 have to offer. This 1st one is dope to me

Pixel fold 2 has to have HDMI out with a Google desktop mode for me to be open to it.

A great trade-in on the Fold 1, a better camera (low-light), significantly faster charging, and better battery life.

I kinda debated switching to the next fold instead of the Fold 6, but I just think the snapdragon gen 3 chip is way better for gaming, which is my main reason for wanting a foldable. Love that big screen for COD. Plus I've heard Goggle doesn't really do discounts like Samsung. Samsung is giving me $1420 off of the new one and thats kind of an unbeatable deal

The Fold 6 is definitely refined. I tried the Fold 5 last year for some time before returning it, it was a great fold but I wanted to wait for the screen increase. I'm not getting the Fold 6 just yet due to the Pixel Fold 2 rumors. I'll say it will be king if can refine the hinge to what Samsungs can do, Battery HAS to be on par OMG, similar crease to Fold 5 or 6. That's all I care about, the camera will be better for sure, Pixie AI will make Siri say "abort mission". I've been waiting to upgrade from my iP14 PM because RCS is coming (sidenote: my iPhone is on 16.1 because I can only use Apple when its jailbroken) so I no longer care to stay with Apple's closed ecosystem. The Pixel 8P was my favorite experience on Android phones but the battery was terrible. Please Google I know you can do it.

I was going to go for the Fold 6 but then decided to wait until the Pixel Fold 2 releases in August. I hope Google won't disappoint us like Samsung did. Fingers crossed!

Samsung is like a Apple now, no innovation and higher prices for their phones. Ridiculous!

I’m hoping that Google will put their flagship cameras from the Pixel 9 Pro into the Pixel 9 Pro Fold! Otherwise they cannot name this new Fold “Pixel 9 Pro Fold” When you look at the big camera bump it actually can be this way, and it hopefully will be this way! I’m already sold my Pixel Fold, just waiting for the new Fold to be launched. I’m really not interrested in the Galaxy Z Fold6! I love all your content, keep on doing this Shane! Thanks and greetings from Arnhem, The Netherlands.

The Z Fold6 really shows how Samsung fanboys are just as bad as Apple fanboys.

Idk if pixel can't up the game in battery life, screen quality and speed then most people are still gunna prefer the fold 6 over it. Yes the camera is dated it should be better at this price point of course but the camera has never been a major breaking point for me in general. I got a 1500$ trade in credit and free double storage for mine so we'll have to see.

The fold 6 needed a bigger front screen, bigger battery , the dark corning non reflective glass, s pen outer screen, it was alright but incremental and I might wait until fold 7 or fold 6 slim. The software is excellent but the hardware needs work . I might get the book 4 pro 360 laptop or tab s10 instead. Its true Honor is winning w Huawei, Xiaomi , One Plus and Vivo. Its strange because thr s24 ultra has good hardware

I will stick with my 1+ Open for only $1,300 with the $600 trade in for my old S22 Ultra... Samsung owner since S3 in 2012

Sadly, Samsung has dropped the ball yet again. They are not incentived to make a better product because there is nothing that can compete with them. The OnePlus may be a better foldable, but they don't have the Samsung environment that includes earbuds, smartwatch, tablet, etc. Also, the price difference doesn't feel as bad when you are trading in a phone and getting top dollar for that trade. At the end of the day, if Google wants to compete, they are going to have come at Samsung from multiple angles.

tried pixel fold twice. Love the phone, but reception at home was terrible. Have never had reception problems with any other brand phone. I would love to try pixel fold 2 if I knew that wouldnt be an issue

I think this made by google event in August is the reason why the google io event was boring. I can’t wait for this event. 😊🎉❤

Im very interested on the design more than anything else tbh

The Fold 6 does have a new UW sensor, btw.

I can buy the Z fold 6 for $600 plus my Z Fold 5 ($440 trade-in value). This includes $1200 credit plus $220 instant savings off the 512GB price of $2020. Deal or rip-off?

This is the first time since the first Z Fold that I am not buying one because there is nothing new on the 6 to justify getting it. That means the Pixel Fold 2 might be the potential replacement for my OnePlus Open.