Did Christianity Steal the Egyptian Ankh?
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The Egyptian hieroglyphic ankh looks kind of similar to the Christian cross. This has lead some conspiracy theorists to argue that Christians copied the ankh for their own religious symbol: the cross. This his basically false, BUT there is a very interesting exception: the crux ansata...a Christian cross that syncretizes with the Egyptian ankh. What does this tell us about early Christianity?
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Bibliography:
David Frankfurter, "Syncretism and the Holy Man in Late Antique Egypt," Journal of Early Christian Studies, Volume 11, Number 3, 2003.
Kim Bowes, "Christianization and the Rural Home," Journal of Early Christian Studies, 15 (2), 143-170.
Roy Kotansky, "The Magic 'Crucifixion Gem in the British Museum," Greek, Roman, and Byzantine Studies 57 (2017), 631-659.
Photograph Attributions:
Temple of Horus at Edfou, Egypt. Attributed to David Broad:
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Ankh hematite gem. 15th century BCE. From Thebes, Sheikh Abd el-Qurna, Tomb of Hatnefer and Ramose:
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Faience ankh, from Meroe. Petrie Museum of Egyptian Archaeology, London. Attributed to Shukir Muhammed Amin:
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Temple of Seti I, Abydos, Egypt. Attributed to Bernard Dupont:
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Ankh Amulet:
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1981 - 1640 BCE, From Memphite Region, Tomb 954, Burial 954L
Alexamenos graffito:
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Jesus Crucifixion mosaic, Attributed to Jordiferrer
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Cross GGNC grave marker, attributed to BrokenSphere / Wikimedia Commons
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Codex Glazier, attribution Morgan Library and Museum, New York:
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Late Antique Dedicatory Cross from the Walters Museum,
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Egyptian Gem, Photo attributed to Chris Faraone, © Trustees of the British Museum. www2.szepmuveszeti.hu/talisman...
British Museum Ankh Amulet: © Trustees of the British Museum
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@ReligionForBreakfast 3 жыл бұрын
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@Tonynightless 3 жыл бұрын
Not true
@Smitty-op4ld 3 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't HE have had a beard? Why would HE have shaved when it was against Jewish Law and against the Vow of the Nazarite
@salparadise284 3 жыл бұрын
easily disproven religious propaganda only feeds blind faith. Its not very Christian of you to misguide the flock.
@markhorton3994 3 жыл бұрын
@@Smitty-op4ld The Bible does not say that Jesus took a vow as a Nazarite. He was a Nazarene meaning person living in or coming from Nazareth. The nazarene vow included abstaining from wine and all grape products. We know Jesus drank wine.
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@diegotobaski9801 4 жыл бұрын
I just love how straight forward this page is, in its work. No bias, no religiosity, just straight up discussing evidence as dutifully observed. A breath of fresh air in an era where everyone seems to be picking a side when discussing the history of religion.
@ReligionForBreakfast 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah partisanship annoys me SO much.
@mrniceguy7168 4 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, this isn’t a theology channel, it’s about the study of religion.
@prestonsmith9450 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the story of how religions interact with a culture, and vice versa, is always fascinating. Though, if asked, it would be hard to put my finger on exactly why it's interesting.
@cuckoophendula8211 4 жыл бұрын
That's why this is one of my favorite channels. I think if such a thing existed back during my youth, I would probably would have ended up a religious studies major myself, haha
@douggieharrison6913 4 жыл бұрын
100% and the reason it's so informative. I'm not worried about accepting a bias as a fact, it presents the history we have and details what we do and do not know
@ABird971 4 жыл бұрын
You can take them out of Egypt but you can't take Egypt out of them.
@SM-4359 4 жыл бұрын
Egypt is a dead theology
@PGraveDigger1 4 жыл бұрын
@@SM-4359 Egypt is a country.
@xAsSaSsInZx1 4 жыл бұрын
The cross represents the death of Jesus
@xAsSaSsInZx1 4 жыл бұрын
Moses came down to end all the magic in Egypt
@ngolamotep9715 4 жыл бұрын
@@xAsSaSsInZx1 Moses and Jesus never existed
@Ggdivhjkjl 4 жыл бұрын
The Coptic Church still uses the ankh.
@cernowaingreenman 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but they also have their own "Coptic Cross" as well.
@magdimeekhail7866 4 жыл бұрын
iam a Coptic ,yes we still use ankh cross but to denote our nationality as Egyptian not Arabs
@OTW18 4 жыл бұрын
Cern Green Correct, There are “Coptic” crosses carved on ancient Ægyptian pillars.
@sqbrazy3283 4 жыл бұрын
Gerald McFarlin so is the ankh but that’s just half of the meaning
@AntiTrollable 4 жыл бұрын
@@harveywabbit9541 absolute nonsense.
@shenanigans3710 4 жыл бұрын
This guy doesn't get anywhere near the number of thirsty comments he deserves.
@tiannabusby8382 4 жыл бұрын
This is a valid point.
@shenanigans3710 4 жыл бұрын
@The Stammering Dunce Tell me about the Gnostic gospels... daddy
@kariscoyne1886 4 жыл бұрын
glad I'm not the only one
@The_Yosh 4 жыл бұрын
He looks like Markiplyar
@andrewprahst2529 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, it's crossed my mind
@menam101 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! I am Coptic Christian, and it is common belief among Copts that Christianity took a hold in Egypt because of how similar it was to ancient Egyptian religions and it wasn’t hard to transition from their previous religion to Christianity. The Ankh is one example of this and is often explicitly thought of in this manner, that ancient Egyptians used it and it’s likeness to represent the Cross when Christianity was introduced to Egypt (through St. Mark). Great videos once again. Another one is the burial hymn we sing at the end of Good Friday is said to use the same tune of the burial songs sang when they would bury pharaohs.
@jdwagman 2 жыл бұрын
Many believe that this kind of syncretism occurred in Rome and Persia too.
@cocolokoflacco Жыл бұрын
you are so lost smh. don't feel bad though I also grew up Christian
@janeslater8004 Жыл бұрын
How did islam come to dominate eygpt
@bobSeigar Жыл бұрын
@@janeslater8004 Convert or die.
@Yaruandromedano1111 Жыл бұрын
@@janeslater8004War and Conquest in the name of Allah
@alexvlk 4 жыл бұрын
Came for the iconographic history, stayed for the beard.
@adbenkunkus 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@CRP7000 3 жыл бұрын
Here for the beard, left right after
@Rydonittelo 3 жыл бұрын
came for the ✝️ Stayed for the ---->🧔🏻
@USA50_ 2 жыл бұрын
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@RobespierreThePoof Ай бұрын
I must admit, he seems to have grown into his beard over the years.
@anthonyconde7604 4 жыл бұрын
3:09 had no idea that ancient graffiti could look so much like MS-paint 4chan memes.
@johnkeefer8760 3 жыл бұрын
People don’t change haha
@renatacantore-gross8842 4 жыл бұрын
The Ankh also looks like an Akwaaba doll of The Ashanti people of Ghana. They are fertility dolls used as a prayer for the health of a pregnant woman or for one who wishes to be so.
@knowyourself3762 2 жыл бұрын
The Ashanti are natives to ancient Egypt. The real kemites of Egypt
@lmonk9517 4 жыл бұрын
Christianity Borrowed a lot of symbols and customs from a lot of places that it spread and coptic Egypt is no different. One of my favourite example of Christian syncretism is the veneration of El Tío in bolivia, the local miners who are majority catholic leave pagan style offering and sacrifices to the lord of the mines to prevent cave ins .
@lmonk9517 4 жыл бұрын
@LagiNaLangAko23 Yeah. He originates from Supay, who is an ancient incan underworld god but he has been syncretised with the Christian idea of the devil. so he is like half Indigenous and half Satan.
@gostavoadolfos2023 3 жыл бұрын
I am from a Muslim background and the old women in my morrocan town used to paint a even cross mostly in purple on the walls of their homes. Later on I did my research and found out it is mostly cross of Ishtar tied to the Carthaginian civilization.
@kat77717 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, its a tactic to convert easily, in india it is happening currently, where jesus wears a tika(hindu culture), offered garlands(hindu), images are made where he is playing with our kid gods, there are jagrata(hindu) for him, coconut is broken in front of him(hindu).... 2000 years of history gives them major psychological points of conversion....
@cromugus 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that Christmas is actually based on a norse holiday called jol or yol(not entirely Christmas, but the feast and gathering the lights and Christmas trees all of it was based there) and the date dec 25th was the birth of a roman god which was a special holiday, people couldnt know whether jesus was born on september or august so instead they put it in 25 so it could be a special day for them.
@ansuz5903 2 жыл бұрын
@Blessed Priest The statue of liberty is a gift from the French. What do you mean it's Ishtar? According to the internet it's a statue of Libertas, a Roman god. Why is it a Mesopotamian god to you?
@richardbond258 2 жыл бұрын
As an artist that works in symbolism, I often feel that our society's view on symbols is influenced by branding, logos, and copyright laws. I hear a lot of people speak about symbols is that context. Symbolism and culture doesn't really work that way though. It is more complicated. I really enjoy you videos.
@eliasekstrom6660 7 ай бұрын
In this case, the anch is a magic mushroom, which is the key/device/tool/instrument that produce the immortal experience. As an artis you probably already knew that.
@jakubr4634 4 жыл бұрын
I take the title of this series seriously and am watching it while eating my breakfast... :)
@samuelechevarria4228 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. You speak so knowledgeably about the topic while remaining objective. I'm a Religious Studies teacher in the UK and I will, most definitely, be recommending your channel to my students. Keep up the amazing work.
@uglyweirdo1389 4 жыл бұрын
SOOOOO excited for the Christian magic channel. You're my favorite religious scholar. Is it weird that I have a favorite religious scholar?
@merrittanimation7721 4 жыл бұрын
No
@13emiel 4 жыл бұрын
There is going to be a Christian magic channel? That's cool, maybe I can glean a couple of insights for my master-thesis on the topic before I hand it in.
@uglyweirdo1389 4 жыл бұрын
@@13emiel It isn't until next year but yes, tres cool.
@MadolcheGabbana 4 жыл бұрын
13emiel Christian ... and magika... a true follower in Christ and the Scriptures will know Sorcery is a sin, one of the few mentioned again in revelation. Look more at the Book Of Enoch and in parallel examination of Runescape’s ‘lore’ even as per your avatar. Just as the God Wars so thus have the Fallen come and made claims to a world that was here before them and true credit is to the One and only God who needs not a name, or worship or ritual or anything petty deities aka demons do. But ya, free masons, Kabbalah and their magic did bleed far and wide since Babylon and before from the powers, dominions and principalities in high places
@davidfrisken1617 4 жыл бұрын
@@MadolcheGabbana The old testament has lots of what we would call magic. Moses has his magic staff and gets in trouble for using it, which indicates the belief it had magic separate to god. Is it King Saul that calls on help from a witch? In the New testament Jesus is portrayed as a fairly normal magician of the time. Have a read of the New testament where for example where Jesus uses mud made from dirt and his spit, placed on the eyes of a man to heal his blindness. Many early depictions of Jesus show him holding a magic wand. Also Paul is depicted having magic contests against magicians. We have many example of Christian magic spells for love and health. Have a google search for christian magic amulets.
@lallyoisin 4 жыл бұрын
High cross in Ireland along with Cathar cross in France have a cross encompassed by a pagan circle. Old habits die hard!
@vamshilifevlogs 4 жыл бұрын
In some Indian churches with new converts, Jesus looks and dresses up like Hindu Gods
@lallyoisin 4 жыл бұрын
@@vamshilifevlogs I'd say if he existed he may have visited india. Egypt too! I think people have it in their heads that biblical figures only walked from village to village.. all these borders are a modern construct. I like to think people moved around quite a bit. Columbus wasn't the first to navigate the waters. Pyramids are a global phenominal.
@disapearingboi 4 жыл бұрын
@@lallyoisin Pyramids are global because of physics. From an engineering perspective, if you want very tall buildings the top must be narrower than the base.
@lallyoisin 4 жыл бұрын
@@disapearingboi so no shared knowledge as far as you are concerned!? When its regarded as fact that ancient races could circumnavigate the globe dont forget those that thought a lil deeper than you! I'll extend you an olive branch.. google image Machu Picchu and then google image ruins of irish monasteries. The most overlooked were the Irish and it took only 800 years to render us in a state of amnesia!
@disapearingboi 4 жыл бұрын
@@lallyoisin I'm Irish myself and I've even been to Machu Picchu. Inca Stone work is more complicated than it looks - they used large interlocking stones at the base and looser uncut stone near the top. This was a unique earthquake resistant measure - interlocking or polygonal masonry is unknown in Irish ruins. Ireland has an extensive written history - if Clonmacnoise or Cashel were in contact with Inca sites then there would be mentions of them. There are no gothic motifs in Inca sites but Ireland is full of them. The differences between these cultures are immense. The only reason the ruins look similar is because all you can see left are the bare bones.
@gordonc615 4 жыл бұрын
Did you see the news that they may have found items that date back to the sack of Jerusalem's sack by Babylon? I know it's detailed in cuniform but aren't these items important since that time period is missing
@kkay3784 4 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the Catholic rosary co opted historical designs, originally going back as far as 5,000 years ago, including the Ankh as a sort of inspiration. Anyhow, don't know much, and am excited to learn more. Since early Christianity used symbols from religious predecessors, it seems there would be an interesting story about the rosary, too.
@TheCheapPhilosophy 4 жыл бұрын
5:07 Incubation was ancient slang for inception :) I was fascinated with the tablets found in Asclepion's temples, where believers expressed their gratitude to this God that revealed in a dream something helpful in their lives, from cures to prophecies. Amazing stuff!
@dylanchouinard6141 4 жыл бұрын
So the people who are the descendants of Ancient Egyptians still use ancient Egyptian symbol? Who would’ve thunk it?
@ReligionForBreakfast 4 жыл бұрын
Yep pretty much. The Coptic language is influenced by Middle Egyptian language too.
@dylanchouinard6141 4 жыл бұрын
ZaqueHunzahua true, but symbols that old rarely tend to die so easily.
@johnisaacfelipe6357 4 жыл бұрын
@perakole I thought demotic was a dead language
@merrittanimation7721 4 жыл бұрын
@ZaqueHunzahua Well it's like how Mexicans celebrate Day of the Dead despite it originating as an Aztec holiday before being associated with Christianity. Old traditions die hard.
@eddiezea301 4 жыл бұрын
NGOLA KINGDON lol they weren’t black , despite what you’d like to believe . There’s a incredible amount of detailed history both from Ancient Egypt & the countries that area of the world & NO they don’t say that they were black .
@ribkan4759 3 ай бұрын
2:30 Roman Philosopher Seneca 3:30 Gospels not mention shape 4:09 God Serapis 4:30 christianization and syncretism 5:14 Incubation with Asclepius
@chrais78 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great Andrew, very interesting coverage of unique aspects of religion and religious history. Keep up the good work!
@anerindreams92 4 жыл бұрын
Lucian: "The cross used for crucifiction is the exact same shape as the letter tau! Coincidence??? I think not!"
@christinadouglas3975 4 жыл бұрын
YES. coincidence. Just like the ankh, the broken cross, a symbol of peace corrupted by the Nazis and other crosses around the world. Havent you ever noticed, say, to change the subject for a moment, how widely disparate cultures that have never had any contact with each other have many of the same structures like the pyramids, Stonehenge type structures, and maybe a few others that I cant think of at the moment? Its because their ancient ancestors all had a common source.
@abimukeshs8229 4 жыл бұрын
Of course.. early Christians used Tau as a symbol.., now also Friars Capuchin Fathers use this symbol..
@christinadouglas3975 4 жыл бұрын
@@abimukeshs8229 Early Christians did not use the T tau symbol for Jesus' cross was not a tau shape
@abimukeshs8229 4 жыл бұрын
@@christinadouglas3975 well the capital letter Tau is like that..
@christinadouglas3975 4 жыл бұрын
@@abimukeshs8229 The cross Jesus was on had to have room at the top for nailing a sign. It was a t. Even if it was a Tau SO WHAT........Jesus died on a cross, that is fact that is not made up. Other cultures having adopted and incorporated bible prophecy into their legends adopted the cross as part of their histories as I have already said
@tiatemsulongkumer4662 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andrew for the great scholarly works and for putting it clearly and precisely. Keep it up... Looking forward for more.
@LangThoughts 4 жыл бұрын
Talking of crosses, it would be cool if you made a video explaining the history and meaning of the different styles of crosses different Christian groups use.
@bryanjensen355 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed on the more likely "embedded" assimilation interpretation, just like the Egyptians did for some of their iconography (like the ankh descending from the prehistoric-neolithic sun crosses).
@The42Horsepower 4 жыл бұрын
the crux ansata and a variation with a latin cross inside the circle are also widely used symbols of gnostic christians, possibly originating with the early egyptian gnostics
@Crabbadabba 4 жыл бұрын
Any more info on this?
@The42Horsepower 4 жыл бұрын
"The earliest known example of a crux ansata comes from a copy of the Gospel of Judas from the 3rd or early 4th century AD." From the Wikipedia -age on the ankh symbol
@kylestevensanders 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! I’ve been binging on these videos for about two weeks now and love the content you put out. I would love to buy and wear a RFB hoodie and tee and I’m sure others feel the same, if you ever thought about offering some channel merch :)
@paxanimi3896 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what is your expertise to make such educational videos, but I subscribed. Simple and informative. Hope this is good information.
@l0_0l45 4 жыл бұрын
Please make videos on the sources of the Bible like Samaritan Pentateuch. Would love to have info on that.
@godislove8740 4 жыл бұрын
I'm reading the Bible codes by satinover atm. In it he refers to the Samaritan Torah scribes being less exact than the Jewish scribes. The world has not ended so I presume the the KJV is the best English readers can hope for.
@RetardEd001 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. This is what happened to my ancestors when they became Christians. Locals weren't the only ones Christianized, even traditions, beliefs and culture got Christianized. So nothing was really stolen from other cultures when Christianity came, it's just that Christian ideas were added or mixed to the already existing beliefs of the local people.
@andreananth3924 4 жыл бұрын
This proof that christianity doesnt swept away, removing any local tradition and culture like many people are saying. Instead, it incorporate the existing culture to enrich the local and global Church.
@marvalice3455 4 жыл бұрын
@ZaqueHunzahua both happened. Cultural change comes in many forms and with many consequences.
@marvalice3455 4 жыл бұрын
@ZaqueHunzahua btw, I don't mean to say that those groups all deserved to be persecuted(though some did) what I mean is that it would have happened regardless. in those instances the church was usually a weapon not the judge. sorry if that was not clear.
@justchilling704 4 жыл бұрын
ZaqueHunzahua That’s false, Roman Catholicism I itself over time was more and more influenced by Greco-Roman culture and religion and their practices mixed which is why Catholics have a nigh pantheon of Saints, as for the Gnostic cults, while they shouldn’t have been exorcise they were rightly rebuked down upon for their crazy beliefs. And btw in a none Roman influenced Christian the Roman Catholic Church wasn’t even a thing until what 3, 4, maybe 500 A.D? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbKjYLig1uCwnIk.html
@justchilling704 4 жыл бұрын
The Void Lol
@robbalink 3 жыл бұрын
I cant believe i missed this one. Its fascinating. Keep up the great work & God bless
@samuelm1300 4 жыл бұрын
There's an Ante-Nicene work entitled, The Octavius of Minicius Felix, which had to have been written after 197 CE, but before 248 CE. The author, Marcus Minucius Felix, a prominent advocate who'd practiced law at the Roman bar and an Christian, recounts a dialogue between his dear friend Octavius, an Christian convert, and a pagan named, Caecilius Natalis. Caecilius offers one criticism after another about Christianity and Octavius attempts to defend Christianity, while making corrections as to the faulty information Caecilius has about the Christian belief-system, etc. When Caecilius claims that the Christians worship "a man punished by extreme suffering for his wickedness" and "the deadly wood of the cross," Octavius responds thusly (Chap. XXIX): "Crosses, moreover, we neither worship nor wish for! You, indeed, who consecrate gods of wood, adore wooden crosses perhaps as parts of your gods. For your very [military] standards, as well as your banners; and flags of your camp, what else are they but crosses glided and adorned? Your victorious trophies not only imitate the appearance of a simple cross, but also that of a man affixed to it. We assuredly see the sign of a cross, naturally, in the ship when it is carried along with swelling sails, when it glides forward with expanded oars; and when the military yoke is lifted up, it is the sign of a cross; and when a man adores G-d with a pure mind, with hands outstretched. Thus the sign of the cross either is sustained by a natural reason, or your own [pagan] religion is formed with respect to it." Why Christians use the symbol of the cross is beyond me. I guess it's a good thing that the man they've deified wasn't executed by electrocution or they'd be wearing little electric chairs attached to a necklace. :heavy sigh:
@edwardmiessner6502 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Christians today do not know where their iconic symbol originated from!
@DrFranklynAnderson 4 жыл бұрын
I used to work for a company that printed “About Us” books designed by churches. I had one book that looked like a perfectly ordinary Baptist church-except the photos showed an ankh in the front of the sanctuary instead of a cross. Not gonna lie, I was very weirded out.
@curiousworld7912 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the possible adaptation of the Isis lactans and the Madonna and child representations, or the addition of the blue grecian matiasma, or 'evil eye', to many of their Christian symbols.
@curiousworld7912 4 жыл бұрын
@@watermelonlalala That's what I meant - that the matiasma was used to repel evil.
@Ricca_Day 4 жыл бұрын
The Greek Cross at 2:50 has a very interesting symbol at the base. The golf tee six point symbol is a complete version of what the cuneiform star was only a half symbol of. I have seen this in numerous Sumerian reliefs and noticed it being open towards the 'left' with the triangle forms to the right, but only in that form. I wonder if they were intending to draw from that symbology or it was subliminal? Excellent article, by the way. Keep noticing the Tatooine poster and gotta ask if you've seen the Mandolin series yet? If not, I'd encourage you to do so asap. It's finally a true homage to the Original StarWars IV, V, VI! Thanks for sharing your insights and clarity of thought with all of us. It's truly a blessing.
@hey.hombre 4 жыл бұрын
It's not uncommon for people to hang on to symbols, rituals and customs from something they grew up in or joined. I grew up as a Catholic and even though I am longer Catholic I still tend to keep some of symbols. I still keep a crucifix (Jesus on the cross). I no longer use a rosary for prayer but I still keep one or more. I still use Holy Water when I can think of getting some. But if you think about it Christians shouldn't be even using any symbol since God strictly says no idols of any kind. People have a hard time letting go of religious traditions. That is our downfall.
@danieldavila6281 4 жыл бұрын
This was a really good assessment of the facts. Especially the writings of the early church fathers. I would also add that not all crosses and or crucifixes are the same within liturgical denominations. Yes, a very fine job indeed. Thank-you!
@emenefer 4 жыл бұрын
My old algebra would feed me conspiracy theories and would grade us on proving them right. He totally did that 'Christianity is a knockoff' thing as well, after showing us the movie Zeitgeist. Although I am no longer Catholic, I still don't like people lying to me about the religion. Thank you for correcting the misinformation in my head.
@ILoveMahCat 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I hate it when teachers force their opinions on their students...
@ThaEzioAuditore 2 жыл бұрын
except its not a conspiracy
@kengillespie7797 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Well done. Suggestion for future videos: you should do a series on important scholars of religion such as J.Z. Smith, Mircea Eliade, and J.G. Frazer. Those guys are so interesting and important in the study of religion but most people don't know who they are.
@merladyneptune3908 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, great info! Confirmed my suspicion. And a good looking presenter, pleasant to see! Suscribed! 💛
@thoughtsofwisdom1223 2 жыл бұрын
Joseph Atwill's Caesar's Messiah opened my eyes and it made a lot of sense why the Romans invented Jesus.
@RaphaelKaufmann Жыл бұрын
@Noah Scheid Yeshu was and still is no name. Yehochoua יהושע exists. הושעה as well. יש"ו Yesh"u exists also but as the acronym for" Let his name and memory be erased".
@victorsilvaerclievskimelo7790 4 жыл бұрын
I cant stress enought how much I love this channel and this guys methodological, critical approach to facts and suppositions.. this is great.
@leopoldopetrieska6564 4 жыл бұрын
im watching this while having breakfast
@merrittanimation7721 4 жыл бұрын
Appropriate
@slimdusty6328 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@gunjfur8633 4 жыл бұрын
I did the opposite
@RanchElder 4 жыл бұрын
@@gunjfur8633 you had this while watching breakfast?
@gunjfur8633 4 жыл бұрын
@@RanchElder *opposite time
@pshaw8406 4 жыл бұрын
OMG! The pomegranates on his shelf! Beautiful!
@YNikolich 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do an episode on how the cult of virgin Mary developed and whether it was influenced by the Egyptian religion. I heard some strange theories about it but I'm unable to tell if they're true or false.
@LancetFencing 4 жыл бұрын
And I suspect the shape of the cross is more an ergonomic influence rather than romans drawing from the spiritual iconography
@kiancuratolo903 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly my favorite channel on youtube, as you've said yourself we all can use more religious scholarship in our lives. Thank you for all your work
@LeaningCedarRanch 3 жыл бұрын
My research and time in Egypt taught me that the ankh meant eternal life, not just life. That’s why it was used in the death ceremony in opening the mouth.
@shaeugfie 4 жыл бұрын
I just learned so much. Thank you.
@jrossjr98 4 жыл бұрын
The cross.goes back to Tamuz. But the Ankh is older than people.think. The ancient or dynastic egyptians stumbled across the megalythic sphinx and pyramids. The y didnt have the knowledge required to build in that fashion.
@blacsteve 3 жыл бұрын
Shane fields study an area in Southern Africa called the Blombos caves. You will see the earliest use of the Ankh way before they moved up the Nile and established civilizations such as Egypt
@blacsteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@jrossjr98 pure ignorance 🤦🏿♂️ You don’t have the knowledge to type a proper comment.
@jrossjr98 3 жыл бұрын
@@blacsteve is that so? What is the Ankh? Please explain
@blacsteve 3 жыл бұрын
@@jrossjr98 if you have to ask that question, you shouldn’t be speaking about the ankh 🤦🏿♂️
@varf4528 4 жыл бұрын
Have you already done a video on the arguments regarding reserection god stories like you mentioned?
@MriMattiStel 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, the relationship between Egyptian religion and current day religion! I love your videos, it's so refreshing to hear your opinion from a historical perspective. I think it would be really cool and helpful to many viewers if you could 'react' to the religion portion of the old "Zeitgeist" videos (floating around on KZfaq). They claim a lot of similarities between Biblical Characters (i.e. Jesus) and other historical characters (i.e. Egyptian Horus) but the average person doesn't have any way of really confirming or debunking all of these claims which are rapidly delivered without giving the viewer time to consider if they are accurate. The video also claims the common point connecting many of these stories is the Zodiac Astrological signs such as the age of Taurus being related to the worship of the golden calf, and the age of Aries the Ram ushered in with Moses, and the Pisces age related to Jesus... I would be very interested to hear your historical 'corrections' or confirmations to even just a few of the claims they make! This video has been floating around for probably a decade now, and if it's misinforming people it would be great to know how.
@Mr-E. 3 жыл бұрын
I can't remember if it was this KZfaq channel or another one, but there was an episode that debunked the widespread rumor about the Egyptian story (Horus) and Mitrha that mimicked the story of Jesus being born to a virgin, dying and rising 3 days later. Bill Maher once used that to attack Christians on his show, but there is no evidence for a story like that. A lot of Athiests commented saying they had used that in their arguments against Christians, and would not do so anymore. I found some videos on it, but I'm not sure if this is what I watched before: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rsqbq8eatarQm6s.html Edit: This one is from ReligionForBreakfast on Mithras: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtJ2Y8qHysqzdHk.html
@MriMattiStel 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr-E. thanks for this reply! Yes, I had watched the Mike Winger "debunk" but I find a response from a pastor less credible than one from a historian like Andrew Henry on the ReligionForBreakfast channel. For one, Winger doesn't cite any resources, and for two, he is a pastor who is biased and literally NEEDS to prove it wrong for his career. Andrew, however, always does a fantastic job staying neutral and sharing a much more accurate depiction of what the historical evidence shows. And. Thank you for sharing the second link to the ReligionForBreakfast video on Mithras. That's exactly what I was looking for! I like how he says just because different religions were fighting for something like the december 25th holiday doesn't mean that the religions stemmed from the same origin. What neither of these videos adress, however, is the Astrotheology theory and whether it holds any truth.
@ThePainkiller9995 4 жыл бұрын
This is something people, especially edgy new atheists, don't understand: culture doesn't just completely change overnight and it's absolutely normal to see elements of older religions mixed in with Christianity, it's just how culture works and it's not evidence of some nebulous conspiracy theory as you said. Well done, keep it up
@sjappiyah4071 4 жыл бұрын
ThePainkiller9995 Precisely 👌
@gabbar51ngh 4 жыл бұрын
@ZaqueHunzahua so basically they were huge hypocrites I guess atheists have better culture. Imagine believing in imaginary gods and having ridiculous beliefs as culture.
@gabbar51ngh 4 жыл бұрын
@ZaqueHunzahua you are confusing communism with atheism. both are separate ideologies. Religion itself is the biggest propaganda btw also Culture and religion are not the same either, the belief in god doesn't make one cultural at all. you are trying to credit something to religion for which they shouldn't be. Religion if i remember did nothing but push back civilization, science and technology.
@hairlips1 4 жыл бұрын
@Zu the pagan death cults and ritual human sacrifice practices of the past.
@Ben-fx9kx 4 жыл бұрын
@Caleb Clark they actually didn't there's very little proof from non Christian sources that Christians were persecuted to the degree they claim they were
@ameribeaner 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so grateful for your videos and your efforts to educate people about religion without being religious. Love your videos and can’t wait for your next video.
@justchilling704 4 жыл бұрын
ameribeaner Is it would possible to not be religious?
@Psychedlia98 4 жыл бұрын
ameribeaner you can be religious and still have this level of intellect
@ameribeaner 4 жыл бұрын
Maoist98 I agree. I just talk with a bunch of atheists who write off anyone who is religious and when I send them to this page they can’t refute him bc he isn’t trying to convert them.
@Pogomeerschweinchen 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep making these amazing videos!
@chiron14pl 2 жыл бұрын
The fabric with the three crux ansatas does have a chi-rho in the "handle" of the red ankh on the right. On the left, although it looks similar, the design in the handle could also be the Delphic epsilon as the rho is incomplete
@CountDain7 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this content 👍
@philipocarroll 4 жыл бұрын
Hang on, if the cross wasn't cross-shaped then why did the Romans call it crucifixion from "crux"?
@edwardmiessner6502 3 жыл бұрын
Because it was a three-dimensional Priapean torture stake. Irenaeus said the _crux_ had five ends or high points: two lengthwise, two widthwise, and one in the middle - on which last rests he who is affixed with nails. Justin Martyr said that point was shaped like a horn and even looked like a horn on which 'rode' those who were crucified. And Tertullian called it the well-known projecting / excessive seat and the pale at / from the middle of the stake. Nuff said!
@williamcastille4193 3 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video on why & when the symbol for Christianity changed for the chi rho to the "Latin" cross?
@Pteradactylist 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you do some conspiracy theory debunking!
@tonyruiz1500 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Informative and objective.
@amyangell2378 4 жыл бұрын
I used to have a necklace of this cross but I didn't know it was Egyptian at the time .....
@planeandsimple2869 4 жыл бұрын
Amy Angell i'm sure Amy
@PinkPisces 4 жыл бұрын
Put it back on Amy
@blacsteve 3 жыл бұрын
Amy Angell it’s not. It was used in Egypt. You can find plenty of information of where it came from and where the oldest Ankh carving found to date was found
@mariamabukamar2200 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the ankh is 100% Egyptian
@mariamabukamar2200 3 жыл бұрын
“The ankh or key of life is an ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol that was most commonly used in writing and in Egyptian art to represent the word for "life" and, by extension, as a symbol of life itself.”
@saburoemon 3 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious that homie’s got 3 bongs on the shelf behind him.
@josva9124 3 жыл бұрын
Hello mom it's a lamp...and this here where you turn it on...
@Catlord98765 4 жыл бұрын
Its actually very possible. The most common paintings of Jesus on the cross were made by people who'd never seen someone die from crucifixion before, and its likely that the cross a historical Jesus would have died on was very different then what we think of today. So it is also very possible that those artists took inspiration for the cross in their paintings from somewhere else, perhaps even the Egyptian Ankh.
@PatchGuitar1 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do a video on the Corpus Hermeticum, I am begging you to do this
@merrittanimation7721 4 жыл бұрын
2:40 That Lucian quote is really silly.
@ReligionForBreakfast 4 жыл бұрын
The whole text is pretty silly. A court deposition against the alphabet. He was a fun dude.
@godislove8740 4 жыл бұрын
@Pecu Alex straight up?
@davidfrisken1617 4 жыл бұрын
In the artefact record of at least the first four centuries we only have a record of people who call themselves Chrestians(The good/useful ones) with an eta and not the later iota. Followers of Jesus Chrestos(Jesus the good). These artefacts include papyrus, Suetonius, Tacitus and inscriptions. Even Codex Sinaiticus in the three places "christians" is found in modern bibles is found "chrestians" in the original greek(Photos of all pages are available online where you can verify). It is not until Codex Alexandrinus of the 6th-8th century that we have our first artefact that uses the word "christian". If you can find an earlier artefact please reply as I have been search for three years looking for one. The gnostic texts speak of "The Great Sabaoth, the Good" as the heavenly "god" who gave Jesus the Good his earthly power. What relates to the subject of this video is the ancient use of "+" or "x" to mark something as "good", in say the margin of a text. There is also pre "christian" evidence of the Chi Rho also being used to designate "chrest". It seems too much of a coincidence for this to not have some bearing on the origin.
@TheTeanaciousLeaf 4 жыл бұрын
hey Henry, what kind of church or gathering do you attend, and how do you cope with differences in your historical findings and understanding of Jesus vs. what your church/community believes?
@nette9836 4 жыл бұрын
You're assuming he's even religious...
@Exoticaworship7 Жыл бұрын
I think it's about time that subscribe to your channel.. because I want to simply be educated not with the judgement that comes from videos who's pointing fingers and ego driven by who's right who's wrong . Just give me enough info so I can do my own research and due diligence 😁 thank you bunches now I have a foundation that's what all of us ought to do . Research with having a solid foundation is a good start and waaaaayyy less confusion IMHO 😁
@penand_paper6661 4 жыл бұрын
I'da thought they had the ole so they could cary them on a string.
@SamuelEstenlund 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is from more recent times, but I've heard something about Christian symbols being prohibited in Egypt, so the Christians used the Ankh instead, because hieroglyphs were allowed.
@TulilaSalome 4 жыл бұрын
Seems unlikely - Egypt has a large Christian minority, with ancient, still active monasteries and churches. I don't know when 'Christian symbols' would have been fully forbidden. Roman times? In Muslim Egypt, hieroglyphs would have been seen as pagan and at least as bad as Christian signs, even if various amulets etc survived in folk belief, such as the Eye of Horus.
@denolaj 4 жыл бұрын
I also wonder how it might have been a way to ‘hide in plain sight’, since the forcefull conversion only came later with Augustine, right? So disguising or appropriating symbols might have been a way to be able to practice your faith in places where it might not have been accepted. Also, the overlap of meaning around the concept of life might have been a consideration, as the ankh stood for life and the cross stood for a sacrifice that gives others life. fascinating stuff. Thank you.
@basic5926 3 жыл бұрын
Could've also mentioned the Norse Thor's hammer (Mjǫllnir) symbol, since it is believed by many to have undergone a similar conversion.
@DarkMoonDroid 4 жыл бұрын
Also interested in how the Staff of Hermes ended up in the hands of Orthodox Leaders....
@imerror6224 3 жыл бұрын
Just like the Catholic staff has a plant on it representing Aaron's rod the Eastern Christian staff has snakes representing the staff of Moses.
@KC-kh8df 4 жыл бұрын
Great video caught my attention! Next I’m thinking dive into the symbolism of the sun - the cross - all used ALL over the world & before Christian Times!
@dustinellerbe4125 4 жыл бұрын
The Zodiac. Jesus is the Sun. Have you noticed all of the depictions with the Sun behind his head?
@godislove8740 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Bill Donahue The Bible is all about the mind. ☺️ He's quite enthusiastic so give him a few minutes. 🙏
@dustinellerbe4125 4 жыл бұрын
@@godislove8740 Bill is good for sure. Not the Catholic one lol Check this out. Very good info here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrCKnKt6nNbHlpc.html
@JonniePolyester 2 жыл бұрын
As an atheist I love RfB but have always wondered why an instrument of torture & death became the number 1 symbol of one of the world’s great religions. Obviously the Guillotine hadn’t been invented back then, which would have looked weird.
@user-gh4zb9qj8j 3 жыл бұрын
I 've seen all your videos and liked all of them. Congrats! You are doing a trully great work. If I may notice something, you always pronounce wrongly Greek words. In this video, for example, the monogram XP is pronounced "He-Rho", not "Chi(Kai)-Ro", and the Greek letter T is pronounced "Taf", not "Taou". I would be glad to help you, if you want; just let me know! Congrats again, and thank you!
@PeterSchmuttermaier 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, but am I missing something out? You are talking about the "T-shaped cross", and I know that this was a popular shape to get the job done, because it makes sense. But the christian cross is not T-shaped, or it wouldn't be a cross, but... umm... a "T", you know? I have heard and read this explanation several times and it never satisfied me - why put this upper pole on top of it? It doesn't serve a practical purpose! Going with this the christian symbol should be a T, not a cross. Why does nobody ask this question? Is it me? Is it too obvious to even mention it? What do I miss here? Is it just to put that "INRI" sign on top of it? Are there actual drawings or clear descriptions from the time showing the cross shape as a common design to crucify people?
@JCsammy 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine tying two beams together. You wouldn’t do it right at the very top because you’re tying it with rope. So there isn’t another extra piece at the top. One beam is just 3/4 up the other tied on top. If that makes sense. Still 2 beams never cut
@salparadise284 3 жыл бұрын
That's because the cross, like all holidays were recycled from various pagen religions .
@salparadise284 3 жыл бұрын
The Roman's used poles traditionally and rarely T shaped , but I've never found true historical proof of a cross.
@moondust2365 3 жыл бұрын
@@JCsammy True. Plus, even if they used nails, there's the INRI inscription. Note that INRI is a shortcut, specifically, an acronym. The actual text is the sentence "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews" written in Latin (IESVS NAZARENVS REX IVDÆORVM), Greek ( Ἰησοῦς ὁ Ναζωραῖος ὁ βασιλεὺς τῶν Ἰουδαίων), and Hebrew (ישוע הנוצרי ומלך היהודים). Or at least, that's how it's been told...
@edwardmiessner6502 3 жыл бұрын
That's because the cross the Romans used which the Christians adopted wasn't used for executions but rather everything from military yokes to trophies of victory. Minucius Felix, _Octavius_
@grayman7208 4 жыл бұрын
" Did Christianity Steal the Egyptian Ankh? " no. next question.
@grayman7208 4 жыл бұрын
@jay i don't know where the ankh evolved from. i have no interest in pagan symbols. but the christian cross was used as symbol because christ died on the cross. it has absolutely nothing to do with egyptian paganism nor the abkh.
@hanssmith8901 4 жыл бұрын
@Big Johny I completely agree with you
@f3nommusic728 4 жыл бұрын
Leon Jan How is the 12 disciples the zodiac signs and at the same time Virgo (one of the 12) Virgin Mary? Please enlighten
@f3nommusic728 4 жыл бұрын
Leon Jan are you one of those everyone else is stupider than me type of people, I’m asking you to back up your statement with sources, with facts not “common sense” that’s usually what people say when they cannot produce any. I’ve heard your claim before and want to simply know the source of your claim, googles a wonderful tool yes but I want to hear it from the man who said it. Biblically there are 12 names for each of the twelve disciples so are you saying that they only counted 11 of them plus Mary? You’re just missing a person is what I am saying or having Mary being represented as two different roles. Just ain’t adding up
@891MIAMI 4 жыл бұрын
gray man jesus was made up . lol. stolen story from Yeshua . and yes it was story. do the origins of christianity. roman propaganda
@rayspencer5025 4 жыл бұрын
From other sources it appears that crucifixions occured on trees, stakes, "T" shaped crosses, "X" shaped crosses, as well as the canonized shaped cross. It depended on available resources, expediency desired, and possibly showmanship.
@LancetFencing 4 жыл бұрын
Given the nature of visual symbols in antiquity they can be both influenced by the Crucifixion and the more mystical symbols of the day.
@sionatube 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why this gets so many thumbs down. The video is so informative without being indoctrinating.
@straightupanarg6226 Жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell.
@basilofgoodwishes4138 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I am ashamed of my phase as new ager where I used to believe in that nonsense, so seeing why this was wrong here helped me to close that phase of my life more. Also can you do a video why the Old testament and New testament are not at odds with one another and why the "But it was the old testameeeeeeennt" excuse doesn't work.
@diegotobaski9801 4 жыл бұрын
He'd need to be embedded in theology for that. This guy addresses religion academically i.e in it's historical context
@oskarhenriksen 4 жыл бұрын
That kind of old testament vs new testament issues sounds more like a job for a theologian.
@ReligionForBreakfast 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, "whether the OT and the NT are at odds" is a Christian theological question. They are collections of different texts from very different historical contexts (from Iron age all the way to the Roman period). I def want to finish an archaeology of the Bible series that I'm writing tho where I get into a lot of the Hebrew Bible texts.
@tamar7065 4 жыл бұрын
As others have mentioned that's a different field, but can I recommend a podcast for that sort of theological analysis? It's called "Almost Heretical" and is run by a couple of guys who have made theology their lifelong study and really know their stuff. They have excellent arguments that the bible presents a cohesive philosophy, just maybe not in the way you'd expect.
@kchild71 4 жыл бұрын
Zu it’s pretty much a hodge-podge of all religions. Just believe in your own God and we’ll worship together and manifest our desires yet desire is bad, and Jesus taught us how to rise above desire but wait, you are in control of your life with your mind and can really be your own God. But wait you need to pray and give a little to receive. In other words new age is complete BS.
@richardjackson4692 4 жыл бұрын
The cross with the upright top section was begun at the first Passover in fulfillment of the requirement to strike the door frames sides ,top and bottom with a bloodied hyssop branch.
@Eriugena8 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video. I hadn’t thought about that quote from Lucian. I wonder if their are any non-christian visual depictions of a T shaped crucifixion. The horse carving and Asia Minor amulet are wonderful objects, but aren’t they a couple hundred years after Jesus? I’m not sure they prove the use of that crucifixion method at the same time as Jesus lived. Not that it really matters but it is interesting to me how perhaps the symbols begat the myths, and not vice versa.
@edwardmiessner6502 3 жыл бұрын
Google Pozzuoli graffito for a most obscene crucifixion on a three dimensional T-shaped cross
@danielcuevas5899 4 жыл бұрын
3:17 what kind of gem is that? It looks amazing.
@alexbreeze4978 4 жыл бұрын
Probably blood stone
@edwardmiessner6502 3 жыл бұрын
The crucifixion depicted on it looks horrifying
@pentz1 4 жыл бұрын
So just coincidence then? Funny, there seems to be many coincidences mirroring Kemet belief systems
@clockwork2620 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, how can the coincidences be so close
@luiznikolajweber6952 4 жыл бұрын
They're just scared, cuz deep inside, they know that they're living a lie.
@AWOL401 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry that the facts are uncomfortable for you.
@risingmoontarot199 4 жыл бұрын
No no no. Demons and the devil always love to mimic things the all mighty does. I don’t care which is old there hieroglyphics or the Bible but I do know that god blesses me in ways I never thought. And I do know that Satan always loves to deceive
@pentz1 4 жыл бұрын
@@risingmoontarot199God may well bless you but doesnt change the fact that the hieroglyphics were in existence LOOONNNNGGG before the bible was written by scribes
@dersitzpinkler2027 4 жыл бұрын
Favorite channel ❤️
@mykulpierce 4 жыл бұрын
From what I understand Coptic Christian tradition states that Jesus grew up in or around Memphis. Basically the tradition hits very strongly that he grew up near the temple of the priest of Ptah. Being part Craftsman guild it would also indicate that if Joseph practice carpentry in Egypt he would also have had belonged to his organization.
@mykulpierce 4 жыл бұрын
There is an interesting pace and storytelling when you compare the tales from the papyrus about the priest of Ptah to Judeo-Christian tradition of miracle storytelling
@TheEverydaypeoples 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, th' ank you ....
@Maat-obabaa 4 жыл бұрын
Speak it! You're onto something there whether you intended it as a joke or not
@aymondgreenlee9091 4 жыл бұрын
All ur videos seem pretty christian biased, so far all I've seen is videos of u trying to prove christianity legitimacy when nothing prooving any opposition against it.
@adam2aces 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that as well. I believe your assessment is spot on.
@markhorton3994 3 жыл бұрын
An unbiased analysis will lead to the conclusion that Christianity is true. The "evidence " against the historical facts of Christianity doesn't hold water. I do not mean the theology. I mean that a Jewish man we call Jesus was born in Bethlehem, raised in Nazareth, preached in Galilee and Judea. That the Jewish leaders felt threatened and got the Romans to crucify Him. And that His followers were convinced that He rose from the dead. To the point of being willing to die before recanting or worshiping Ceasar.
@PeterMobilSwe 3 жыл бұрын
Just what I thought as well, after 30 seconds it was clear 😅
@teresamcmurrin8672 3 жыл бұрын
Where is he arguing the legitimacy of Christianity as a religion? He is presenting the known facts of history and culture. He is not "proving" nor "disproving" anything. It is not the place of a scholar to argue either for or against any religion. He takes the same approach for other religions. If you want apologetics or polemics, you need to go to a channel based on supporting or discrediting a given religion.
@danielbaldwin3825 4 жыл бұрын
Have you got any books you can recommend on ancient christianity please brother ?
@CRNaescola 3 жыл бұрын
comentando em lingua Brasileira mesmo. Seus conteúdos são ótimos, no Brasil a Ciencia da Religião (or Study of religion), hoje é a ciencia base para a disciplina de Ensino Religioso, na escola publica, não é unanimidade, mas temos a lei que nos garante isso. E ter canais assim é importante para termos essas referencias. thanks
@henriquebraga5266 Жыл бұрын
"língua brasileira" oh por amor de Deus..
@user-ze3tq9hf9i 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. As an atheist even I get sick from the whole "Jesus is a copy of "X" mythology"
@stephengloss5364 4 жыл бұрын
They all borrow from each other. It was just a question of what "flavor" (hellenism, etc) an up and coming religion/mystery cult would take. Baptism/lords supper/personal salvation was all the hype at the time.
@wingate87zero25 4 жыл бұрын
sunday is my day of x 24 6666 74 26 i 33
@hobnob666 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephengloss5364 Yeah Judaism practically plagiarized Egyptian beliefs. Then along came Zoroastrianism later that influenced Christianity & Islam since they both came after Zoroastrianism. People need to study their history to connect the dots. Religion is man made & not real. Only the philosophies & literature are real but the supernatural from these books aren’t.
@DixonDixon65 2 жыл бұрын
@@hobnob666 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@mexfixxxer78 4 жыл бұрын
True christians know that you shouldn´t use images or symbols,idols or any representation of god = the lord of this world.
@adam2aces 3 жыл бұрын
True Christians know they can ignore the old testament when convenient.
@benjaminsteele4161 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is excellent! Thank you 😊
@anaconda470 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I think I've seen crux ansata fabric in Louvre.
@annalisette5897 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the cross as we generally know it is because scripture says a sign was nailed above Jesus' head proclaiming him King of the Jews. A T-shape would not lend itself well to that narrative. I like the ankh and think it would be a fine Christian symbol in that Christ gives life everlasting. I think the meaning is similar in Egyptian tradition.
@ReligionForBreakfast 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in the Socrates Scholasticus scene, I think the Christians say something similar...that the meaning of the ankh aligns with Christian theology.
@tinnagigja3723 4 жыл бұрын
"It's not an ankh, it's a Jesus carrier."
@objectivitycave11 4 жыл бұрын
Praise Christ, the resurrection and life ! Savior of all humanity
@usergiodmsilva1983PT 4 жыл бұрын
"Now with a handy handle! Call now!"
@Chromwel-A 4 жыл бұрын
Sérgio D. M. Silva Got any discount for Christmas that's about to come? Or should I wait until Easter? Lol.
@objectivitycave11 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chromwel-A just because materialists own the world doesn't make the finished work of Jesus Christ null and void.. neither does his work make the commandments of the unchanging Yah null and void.
@Chromwel-A 4 жыл бұрын
objectivitycave11 I'm pretty sure that: 01. That wasn't my question. 02. I wasn't talking to you.
@philpaine3068 3 жыл бұрын
In the Western Sahara, I noticed that many of the Kel Aïr tribe of Tuareg nomads wore a necklace pendent in the form of a cross with a circular top, very similar to both the Ankh and the Crux Ansanta. The Tuareg are Muslims, but don't fit well into most people's ideas of Muslim culture. For example, men are veiled and women are not, and they preserve many pre-Islamic laws and customs. Inheritance is matrilineal, and women hold a much higher position than among other Muslims. They still revere an ancient founding Queen. The "Tuareg Cross" was confusing to visiting Christians, though the Kel Aïr vigorously deny that it has any connection to Christianity. I'm told that some scholars think it's a remnant of the Christian presence in the North African Roman Empire and the Vandal state before the arrival of Islam. Others think that it comes from the symbolism of the Phoenician/Carthagenian cult of Tanis, which we know had a continuing influence in the Sahara. But just at a glance, when I first saw one on someone's neck, I mistook it for an Ankh. The Tuareg speak a Berber language, an ancient linguistic family that long predates the Romans and Carthaginians, and is more closely related to ancient Egyptian than to either Arabic or the Punic language of the Carthaginians. In fact, one Berber language is still spoken in the Siwa Oasis of Egypt.
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Dr Henry-- how about a vid on the concept of syncretism as used in academic studies of religion vs how used in or by religions/followers of different religions, say Abrahamic vs Buddhism or others. thanks in advance.
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