Did Donna Kill Ben Glenroy?

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Күн бұрын

Donna has been a suspect for many reasons. But maybe this one will stick. This video spends a lot of time on Ben and his past and how it could have tied into Donna being the one that pushes Ben in order to save her son.
I forgot to add, that Donna and her son Cliff likely also have Death Rattle hankies and that it was one of theirs that Ben had in hand when he died.
‪@donnasonnenfeld3078‬ Thank you for the idea! This was one of my favorite holes I’ve dug into 🧩🎭👨‍❤️‍👨

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@PhoebeFayRuthLouise
@PhoebeFayRuthLouise 9 ай бұрын
I think this could be true! Ben saying “Mama’s back” sounds much more like something a gay man would say than a straight man! And I love the connection between Ben’s opening line and The Rocky Horror Picture Show!
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
The more I looked at it the more interesting things I found! Rocky Horror is one of my favs 💙💙💙
@jt279
@jt279 9 ай бұрын
That's a pretty good theory! I did see the Ben poster in armoire but didn't make the closeted connection.
@ymi2.02
@ymi2.02 9 ай бұрын
Since the last episode I really think it's either Donna or Cliff. For me it's most likely Donna. It has to be someone who we met in the first three episodes who doesn't stand out during the season but keeps appearing. At least that's what I think after watching season 2. Until the last maybe two episodes there WAS NOTHING that would have made Poppy suspicious.
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
I agree, it has to be someone we have seen early in the season but hasn't seen much of them sense. We will be seeing the cast again next episode so that could be bringing the perp back into the light. BUT overall, I agree, it's one of those two and my money is on Donna too.
@donnasonnenfeld3078
@donnasonnenfeld3078 9 ай бұрын
Hi, Dallas! That was me!!! I posted that because of the "visual clue" of the cutout of Ben in the armoire possibly being a metaphor for Ben being "closeted" about his sexuality! I made a post online about it and I think I also posted here on your KZfaq! If Ben was in the closet, then he could've had a romantic relationship with Cliff, for example. This week I strongly suspect that Donna and Cliff were involved in Ben's murder! And that, even though it hasn't been brought up on screen, that Cliff and Ben had a relationship that perhaps Donna didn't approve of or maybe Ben hurt Cliff and Donna was protecting him...that's my theory taken a step further! Anyway, I'm the person who I think you're looking for!
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you 🙌
@th2k864
@th2k864 9 ай бұрын
Yours makes as much sense as any of the ones I've read, in fact, you make more sense than any of the others I've read. Did you hear about the Moriarity character that lurks within OMITB? According to someone on the podcast there is a yet to be revealed Moriarty character that is in some way linked to all the murders. If you develop any ideas who that might be I'd love to hear them.
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! I try to be logical but open minded. The show runner John Hoffman stated there is one. At the end of season one I thought there was an Arconian Crime Syndicate with Howard at the top. Now that I know there is an over arching villain he seems too obvious. I have one main suspect but I’m waiting for the season to end before I put together the video because there may be more information to add.
@ghdu_beanie_olsen
@ghdu_beanie_olsen 9 ай бұрын
I had the craziest idea from the very beginning of this season but I was hesitant and scared to share it anywhere. Theo. Theo is the pusher :( I LOVE Theo. I ship Theo and Mabel. But he is my suspect. Remember it was silent in Ben’s dressing room? It seemed Ben was alone. Most people theorized Ben was talking to cookies. Some decided he was rehearsing. But what if he was with somebody who is using a sign language as a means to speak? That was my first thought. In season 2 writers made sure to let us know that Theo is a very good lip reader! In the «One killer question» podcast the actor who plays Howard said «one of us still could be a killer» referring to Howard, Will and Theo.
@rizzzzzzzzzzzz
@rizzzzzzzzzzzz 9 ай бұрын
I don’t know..l that sounds super interesting but I doubt the show will go that route with Theo, considering his character development last season
@actionmovieproductions8557
@actionmovieproductions8557 9 ай бұрын
I don’t mean to be an “erm actually ☝️🤓” but in season 2 we find out Theo isn’t that good at lip reading. When Mabel talks to him he gives her a card that says “I catch only 1/3 of what you say” I personally believe that Ben was taking to cookies and they had been poisoned with whatever made him fall on stage.
@cheri7054
@cheri7054 9 ай бұрын
I would hate if they turned Theo into a killer.
@cheri7054
@cheri7054 9 ай бұрын
@@rizzzzzzzzzzzz Theo is too lovable to make him a killer. I hope it's not him.
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
I want to believe it could be possible but there was no info of Theo being at opening night or that Ben knows ASL. Give me a reason for Theo to be there and get access to the dressing rooms and I will follow you down the rabbit hole.
@cpu1639
@cpu1639 9 ай бұрын
Omg! I didn't notice the gay necklaces (there are even memes about them surfer necklaces) from the 90's!!! I thought he was too quirky and sassy but I guess I was seeing Ben as Paul Rudd...
@cheri7054
@cheri7054 9 ай бұрын
There are so many gay men on this show. Could be Howard Johnathan. Could be any character. There are pictures of Ben in every place in his apartment. Maybe you're right but not sure they would make such a big deal about his sexual orientation
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
There are lots of queer characters on the show Howard and Johnathan seem to be in a solid relationship, there is nothing to make us think otherwise. There are pictures of Ben everywhere in his apartment and I could be reading into nothing. Why would they make such a big deal about his orientation? It wouldn't be making a big deal about it but show how being closeted formed who he is as it would in real life.
@benjattkk
@benjattkk 9 ай бұрын
Dang you're good!
@jt279
@jt279 9 ай бұрын
Just found a huge clue suggesting 3 Glenroy siblings; the border of Dickie's CoBro drawing is made up of 3 snakes! A very long one, plus 2 shorter ones, giving further support for the twin theory!
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
There are three snakes! There is so much that could point to multiple Bens I really hope its not the case though. The snakes kind of look like they are eating each others tails. sort of like the Ouroboros. I symbol of death and rebirth. Ben "died" on stage and came back to life.
@ALArandom1234
@ALArandom1234 9 ай бұрын
I think it's Donna for a different reason. I started researching The Producers Broadway play after I saw it showing up in so many articles referencing the cameos of Matthew Broderick and Mel Brooks. Then I found this video that includes the details of a plot in the first two minutes to get rich by producing a flop instead of a hit. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obCVod1it5_IeH0.html Nathan Lane won a Tony award for Lead Actor and Matthew Broderick was also nominated. Martin Short played one of the characters in another run of the show. That said, clues that Donna could be the killer if the plot is the same: * References to financial trouble - # of zeros in her account, fact that Oliver owes her money * Episode devoted to how superstitious people are in Broadway and Donna's comment about the fact that Ben's accident happened in the Goosebury, the same theater as Splash, was a possible sign he was cursed * Cliff was friends with a Broadway legend who would have joined the play from the beginning, but he went around Donna to contact him (Donna asks Cliff to run all his ideas by her since they're all bad) * Donna lobbying so hard for Charles to stay in the play when he can't really sing and has no stage acting experience * The fast decision to close the play. * The fact that this is actually Cliff's first time as a producer so she technically can say the failure wasn't because of her. I wouldn't think they would just use a Broadway show plot for season 3 but maybe????
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
I’m a big fan of The Producers and thought this early on but after knowing Matthew was appearing I thought it would be too obvious and likely a red herring. I can’t remember what video it was but I also stated that she told Ben not to promise Johnathan a night on stage likely because he’s a good actor and it would get a good review and she doesn’t need that. This is still really likely and a lot points to it but I feel like it’s too obvious. If the show never had Nathan and Matthew I’d be all for it.
@faisalhilaby
@faisalhilaby 9 ай бұрын
and it could maybe still be Bobo... an obsessed scorned lover refused to take any more no-no's.
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
The pack of hankies Charles had makes me think he also had Bobos but I’m still holding out!
@keithfustos5520
@keithfustos5520 9 ай бұрын
I think on stage Ben entered the “white room “. Later at the elevator he was telling Cliff he couldn’t perform. Cliff proceeded to “ stress dance” upset by him leaving the show and accidentally bumped Ben into the elevator shaft. Your theory could also apply here also if they liked each other romantically.Ben could have been breaking up with Cliff by the elevator.
@mrcritical6751
@mrcritical6751 9 ай бұрын
What if Ben was in The White Rook when he was apologising?
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
I like this idea but "Accidentally" should never be a qualifier for what happened, that is not Murder.
@cheri7054
@cheri7054 9 ай бұрын
I doubt Donna and Cliff are real Mother and son. It doesn't make sense
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
Though I don't agree with the type of relationship they have, I have seen things similar to this IRL. I don't think it would make much difference if Cliff was adopted or not, A mother figure with that kind of relationship with her son is questionable.
@andreamanning3297
@andreamanning3297 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting theory. 😊
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@finolaharvey8905
@finolaharvey8905 9 ай бұрын
Do you think maybe it was Tobert in his dressing room... just thinking back to his comment about the last time we would hear his voice in camera? There had to be some reason he said that?
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
Its possible but in all fairness if Ben had not died we would not have ever heard his voice again. I think he was talking to the cookies and it was Kimber who gave them to him.
@finolaharvey8905
@finolaharvey8905 9 ай бұрын
Do think your closer theory is bang on..dare I say that Howard is the moriarty character..saddens me to say that...
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
@@finolaharvey8905 Season 1 I thought Howard was a Moriarty character, but now he's way to obvious to be the person.
@silviabenavidez178
@silviabenavidez178 9 ай бұрын
I think Donna is the killer. Loretta is not the killer
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
I dont think the killer will be another woman but if it is Donna is my top suspect
@billyspocketlife
@billyspocketlife 9 ай бұрын
Is this a romeo and juliet story?
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
I never even thought about that angle! If Ben was in on the sham of the Play. But that means Cliff must die at the end.
@rio23xh89
@rio23xh89 9 ай бұрын
Early 90's no but early 2000s Cameron made it cool dipset
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
What?
@NRJIID
@NRJIID 9 ай бұрын
If you're referring to wearing pink I was remembering Miami Vice making men in pink "cool" in the mid 80's. I worked at a group home for teen boys. They all started wearing pink shirts.
@rio23xh89
@rio23xh89 9 ай бұрын
@NRJIID yea referring to pink I can see in the 80's that happen I was a kid in the 90's , glad pink is excepted fashionably nowadays
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
@@NRJIID we’re kids also wearing pink in the 80s or was it only adults? I was very young then, I remember watching Miami Vice but don’t remember anything about it other than Don Johnson
@NRJIID
@NRJIID 9 ай бұрын
@@ScreenFavorites It was kids. The group home I worked at were boys ages 12 to 17. Pink was the color of choice for dress shirts for the boys in high school. They all wanted to be Don Johnson when Miami Vice was top rated show. There were no puca shells though.
@MeanBob866
@MeanBob866 9 ай бұрын
Nah I still think it was Tobert. He killed Ben because the name his name is so stupid and Ben's name is so cool. It even rhymes. Tobert should have been the Ben, not Ben.
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
Tobert Glenroy?
@MeanBob866
@MeanBob866 9 ай бұрын
@@ScreenFavorites Would be funny but no
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
@@MeanBob866 Ben did make fun of his name at the table read but idk if it’s enough of a motive. Tobert has likely heard all the name calling Benjamin or Ben is a pretty common name I wouldn’t call it cool.
@MeanBob866
@MeanBob866 9 ай бұрын
@@ScreenFavorites No but Ben is high as balls he probably forgot what Tobert's name is. Then they meet at the elevator shaft and Ben asks what his name is. Tobert says he is the cameraman, Tobert. Ben says that's a stupid name. Tobert is PISSED and pushes Ben in in rage.
@ScreenFavorites
@ScreenFavorites 9 ай бұрын
@@MeanBob866 this is possibly but idk why he would forget his name, he knew Tobert before anyone else and he remembered their names. I do think it’s likely he has something to do with it all.
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