Did Hoyo Make a Firefly-Exclusive Set? | 2.3 Relic Guide for Honkai: Star Rail

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13 күн бұрын

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Hoyokeeps giving lots of love to Firefly, but did they go too far? Can anyone else use this set besides Firefly? Here's my honest take and some info on all the new relic sets we'll get in the next patch.
Sources:
HoYoLaB - Version 2.3 New Stages: www.hoyolab.com/article/29926591
Relic Sets and Builds: www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/
tags: #honkaistarrail #firefly #farming

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@OkMuzzy
@OkMuzzy 11 күн бұрын
Hey there! This video has fewer edits, and I made it in a bit of a rush, but I hope it clears up some information on the new sets! Good luck to everyone aiming for any character in 2.3! 🫡
@angeldiaz762
@angeldiaz762 14 сағат бұрын
Don't forget that Break Effect is also an important stat for DoT dealers: your Black Swan and Guinaifen builds could potentially benefit from these pieces. In fact, a lot of enemies I use DoT against are weak to both wind and fire, so a wind and fire team could make good use of them
@angeldiaz762
@angeldiaz762 14 сағат бұрын
If you already have good substats on characters like that though, there's no urgency to switch.
@OkMuzzy
@OkMuzzy 11 сағат бұрын
Break Effect can be useful but it's not the main source of DMG, besides, you're already stacking lots of ATK on DoT characters, and Break DMG won't benefit from it. Glamoth can give you way more damage increase since it increases both your ATK and your final DMG. Both skills and DoTs will benefit from both stats.
@victorrodrigues1859
@victorrodrigues1859 12 күн бұрын
I love to watch your videos while I work out at the gym, bro. So much knowledge 💪
@elliotbandeira40
@elliotbandeira40 11 күн бұрын
Finally someone who can understand the set description... so much random hate over kalpagni
@adamek8316
@adamek8316 9 күн бұрын
this set can be used for every break scaling character in firefly team, and in the best firefly team which is ff/ruan mei/hmc and gallagher u can use this on every single character
@OkMuzzy
@OkMuzzy 9 күн бұрын
Yup, Firefly can enable this set on any character for a whopping 40% BE + 6% SPD. But even without Firefly, you're still able to use it in some specific situations.
@sebastianpong1693
@sebastianpong1693 8 күн бұрын
The 6% speed seems unintentional to me. They wanted to make a planar set for FF who can always have fire weakness implant, wants speed and break effect. Other characters just happen to use it sometimes. It’s the principle of the design.
@angeldiaz762
@angeldiaz762 14 сағат бұрын
Belobog set isn't completely useless, its main problem is that, given it's a DEF % increase, those % increases only benefit characters who have a high enough base of that stat. If I'm building a team quickly and I have a support running Fleet of the Ageless, and I can't decide what relic set to put, sometimes I choose Belobog for Lynx or Tingyun, you don't lose _much_ by putting it on. But at the same time, a low-def character like Pela isn't going to get as much bang out of it as Gepard or March would. I primarily use it for Preservations, because the amount of HP the Shields has is oftentimes determined by DEF. But if I'm using one in PF, I usually equip a different set
@OkMuzzy
@OkMuzzy 11 сағат бұрын
Belobog is useless. Now that we've got a new Follow Up Planar Set, there's zero reason for anyone to farm Salsotto and get Belobog pieces while farming. Only the wearer will have "benefits" from using the set, while Broken Keel, Fleet and even Penacony can offer team-wide buffs. You are trading a lot of great DPS and team-wide buffs for... extra survivability? Fleet can give survivability while still increasing your team ATK.
@angeldiaz762
@angeldiaz762 10 сағат бұрын
@OkMuzzy all depends on what you want out of your shielder. Fleet's secondary 8% can only be used by one party member, and Broken Keel's effect res requirement can be hard for non-Abundance characters. Penacony set is a lot less restrictive but only if elements match.
@OkMuzzy
@OkMuzzy 9 сағат бұрын
Fleet is a team wide buff, I don't understand why only a single unit would benefit from it. But even so, just as you said, all of those sets can provide secondary effects, unlike Belobog which provides only DEF. Unless we have some sort of character that scales something besides shield with defense (looking at you Aventurine), the only thing you will get is some extra shield for your team. which I doubt it's going to make any difference.
@angeldiaz762
@angeldiaz762 7 сағат бұрын
@OkMuzzy I'm talking about it not stacking with itself. If you equip Fleet on two in the same party, it's pointless because only one instance of the 8% buff applies. Keel works the same way, hence it being convenient to run one of each on your team.
@joey-desu
@joey-desu 9 күн бұрын
might of been the worst relic release this game has had in its history. the break set favours firefly for no reason, they had to add the superbreak part just to make it better for firefly and worse for boothill. the followup set isnt even a followup set and is useless on every single unit we currently have in the game, no its bad on jing yuan since his ll is most of his dmg and duke is just much better since it will buff his ult by a lot too, its absolutely garbage on ratio since his ult deals no damage but ony his followups and no its not even a good set for jade, its worse than both duke and quantum since most of her dmg is her followup not her ult. The set is made for yunli who will come in 2.4 but even then they could of just made this an actual followup set for units that want to follow up often like topaz. the followup planar set is actually the only good one, it will be really good on every single followup unit like topaz, ratio, aventurine, clara so atleast 1 usable relic for people that didnt go for firefly. now about the break planar set, its just clear how much hoyo prefers firefly. They could of easily made the relic like: increase speed by 6%. if you attack an enemy with implanted weakness increase break effect by 40%. that way it would still be fireflys bis but also bis for boothill and work on gallagher/ruan/hmc in both break teams it would even work on break silverwolf, but the way the set works now its just not worth to farm for boothill nor any of the supports since you cannot guarantee the weakness unless you use firefly. Sure you could farm 3 of them incase there is a stage weak to fire where u can run boothill but its just unnecessary firefly favoritism.
@jade7631
@jade7631 9 күн бұрын
The planar break set works on units like Gallagher and HMC as they still get the buff if firefly is on there team. The team is universal for all break units as long as firefly is on the team, it isn't exclusive to ONLY firefly. Boothill already has a set for planar being Talia, and for Relic being the same set as firefly. The follow up set works on all follow ups except clara and Topaz. It isn't there BiS because they already have BiS.
@OkMuzzy
@OkMuzzy 8 күн бұрын
100% agree with the Super Break part, that was totally unnecessary :/ For me, the Follow-Up/Ultimate Set doesn't seem that bad. I don't think Jade is going to use Duke, and Quantum is a bit situational for maximum output since it requires Quantum Weakness. As for the Break Planar Set, I don't think it's Firefly favoritism. The Quantum Set exists, and no one says that it's Silver Wolf favoritism. Both can be used in specific situations. Sure, it isn't worth it to focus on farming it without FF since it's going to be situational, but even when compared to Talia, it's a minimal gain on BE.
@joey-desu
@joey-desu 8 күн бұрын
@@jade7631 ur literally proving my point, unless you have firefly the set is just straight up not worth even for ur supports like gallagher and hmc since they just cant guarantee fire weakness UNLESS its with firefly, just to make it worse for boothill. No talia has been in the game for way longer than boothill and the set is literally just straight up worse than the new one firefly got, it has less be and no speed. yes the set "works" on every fua, but its absolutely trash. There isnt a single fua that hast majority ult damage, the only 2 units that in theory work are jing yuan and yanqing, for jingyuan its just straight up worse than duke since duke will boost his fua and his ult while yangqing is the only unit right now that it would probably be bis for.
@joey-desu
@joey-desu 8 күн бұрын
@@OkMuzzy have u watched any jade gameplay? Her kit is literally to use her followup as much as possible so a set that makes her followup stronger is better than a set that makes her ult stronger. Her ult literally gives her followup stacks, its her main damage. Duke will absolutely be better on her since it will boos her followup dmg and still boost her ult, and as far as i know quantum is def bis, she is quantum u wont use her in moc unless there is quantum weakness anyway and her for pf her dmg is already enough if there is no quantum weakness. The quantum set and the planar set are just not comparible, the quantum set has been in the game since release and didnt come out with a new unit. Every single dps works on the quantum set even if its not their bis or if enemies dont have quantum weakness, they released 2 break characters back to back, and made the planar set work for one of them every fight while the other one can use it in very specific situations, on top of that the set isnt just better for firefly herself its also better on ruan mei, gallagher and hmc. How is that not favoritism?
@jade7631
@jade7631 8 күн бұрын
@@joey-desu You never stated the relic set was useable on anyone else you only said “on firefly”. But the set works on every character your running with firefly, not firefly alone. It is like Acheron’s Planar set, it isn’t only useable on Acheron, other characters may benefit from it as well. Don’t forget you can also run a break fire team with silver wolf. I didn’t say Talia is better, I said Boothill already has a BiS which is Talia. The follow-up set isn’t meant for any other follow-up character because there is no point, why would it be better than any other follow-up set currently, there already are good ones. The Duke inferno set literally is better than Jade see in all ways. I see nothing wrong with it not working with other characters.
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