Did Ichigo need to use The Final Getsuga Tenshou? What do you think? Let me know!

I would have loved to see him use a normal getsuga tenshou before transforming into his final getsuga to see how powerful it was

Seeing as Aizen is STILL alive, i would think holding back wouldnt make sense.

I always figured he used it because if he didn't aizen would've eventually grown stronger than ichigo and by using the fgt he stopped aizen while he still could

He literally showed up to fight Aizen on 70% battery. He was probably in the garganta like “eff it this’ll probably be good enough”

"Butterfl-Aizen", if you will.

I think this question is fundamentally wrong in how it understands Ichigo’s power in this arc. My interpretation was that Aizen basically had it correct: the power Ichigo gained when he came out of the Dangai had something to do with “throwing away” his potential and trading it for a power-up. The power Ichigo gained that allowed him to fight and at some points even surpass Aizen was a prerequisite for using Mugetsu. Put simply, Ichigo was already “using” Mugetsu from the moment he appeared out of the Dangai, that is where the power up came from. Ichigo actually using the technique to damage Aizen at the climax of the fight was just the moment where he released Mugetsu, after which the technique was used up and his powers were gone. Ichigo says that the Saigo no Getsuga Tenshō is him becoming Getsuga, and I would argue that is apparent in his appearance even before the final attack: the fact that the Zanpakutō merged with his hand. And honestly this makes more sense than Ichigo just needing a couple of months of training to go blow-for-blow with not base-Aizen (who was already ridiculously strong even compared to most of the other captains) but Aizen merged with the Hōgyoku. Ichigo had already sacrificed his Shinigami powers before he appeared back in Karakura Town, and I would assume (because it would be a silly technicality otherwise) that even if he never released Mugetsu, at some point his “time” in that form would have been up and the same result would have happened... I just want to say that I love the content you have been making on this channel. I’ve been a big fan of Bleach from the beginning and I love finding creators who are just as interested in the world Kubo created!

I think Mugetsu was used to slow down Aizen’s evolution for Kisuke to seal him. Dangai Ichigo was stronger than Aizen somewhat, but Aizen would have evolved eventually so Mugetsu would have to be used at some point.

Ichigo said he finally was able to feel Aizen's sword when he could finally fight Aizen as an equal, so I assume Aizen was getting closer and closer to his level of power. Ichigo was trying to do enough damage to overwhelm Aizen's regeneration.

Pretty sure it was necessary. Ichigo was leagues above Aizen when the fight started, but even if he had bisected him then and there, the Hougyoku would've just kept him alive. By the time he used Mugetsu, Aizen had transformed to such a state that he was able to seriously damage Ichigo's left arm and this is a jump from him being able to stop his sword with the same arm. Hell, Mugetsu wasn't even enough to win the fight. It weakned Aizen and slowed him to the point he could be sealed. Aizen literally was just about to achieve the final zanpakuto state and would've been nigh unstoppable. The guy is immortal and will constantly evolve to be stronger and stronger. By the TYBW arc, he's pretty much unstoppable and all he's done is sit in a chair. Imagine what he could've been if he kept evolving because Ichigo was too worried about losing his power to use Mugetsu

Ichigo says his spiritual pressure is reflected in how much of his clothes is destroyed. So Aizen really did damage him a bit.

Dude I TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR AN HOUR ON STREAM! He was Leagues above Aizen in strength but i think he used it so Aizen didnt evolve anymore is really all i can say. great content fam

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The simple explanation is that the power scale was getting out of control so Kubo did a high enough scale to defeat the bad guy in order to set things back to zero, otherwise it lead to DBZ/DBS levels with galactic/universal/multiversal/infinite dimensional level threats, which would be harder to justify how the heroes could reach that level, even with training. Things did eventually reach similar levels as the final Aizen fight, but not to the extent that no one could sense the strongest warriors' Spiritual Pressures anymore.

I feel like all those points are agreeable, but I want to bring up the fact the Hogyoku is known to have a will of its own and be subservient to those with enough power to control it. It's probably not a concrete theory, but I believe the Hogyoku resisted Aizen after he was struck with Mugetsu. Even though it was melded to Aizen, Kisuke mentions that it no longer serves him and has abandoned him, which makes sense if you consider Aizen was unable to regenerate Kyoka Suigetsu or resist the seal. Going even further, I believe that since Ichigo had been leagues above Aizen for pretty much the whole fight, the Hogyoku saw Ichigo more worthy and granted what it could to its new master: a way to stop Aizen. And part of this goes back to something Aizen said about the Hogyoku, that it responds to the desires of those around it and gives them what they want. Rukia no longer wanted to be a Soul Reaper, Ichigo wanted to protect his family, Orihime wanted to be able to defend herself, Chad wanted to protect others, etc. And what Ichigo had wanted while fighting Aizen was to stop him, and the Hogyoku responded by stripping Aizen of all the power he'd had in that fight.

I think it was necessary that Ichigo lose his powers to move the story forward without it getting ridiculous. Because if he hadn't, he would have been too op from the start for any need of help from Ginjo. It was very compelling to see his struggle in the final arc of the anime and the confrontation with the fullbringers. Could it have been done differently? For sure. Maybe stretch the fight out a little more. Specially after the first part in which Ichigo stomps Aizen. Once Aizen is in his beast mode, they could fight more on par to make it more interesting and to force Ichigo into using his final getsuga tensho aka Mugetsu. He maybe didn't need to use that if he could have pushed Aizen to the edge with normal getsugas enough for the seal to activate, but then he wouldn't have lost his powers... It was cool and I found it a satisfying way of finishing things. Though all things said, I find it a bit iffy all the 'on a different dimension' stuff specially as it's not referenced again and everyone is much stronger later on without transcending... I don't know haha I love bleach in spite of all its flaws

Mugetsu wasnt a "FORM" it was more like THE ATTACK that is almost impossible to dodge and as you said if he hadn't used it Aizen would have Surpassed Dangai which he did.

After Aizen transformed again against Ichigo, his strongest attack barely burned Ichigo's arm, and Aizen STILL couldn't even begin to sense Ichigo's spirit pressure. Ichigo was implied to have reached an even higher dimension of existence than Aizen, so he would be able to bisect Aizen easily even without the Final Getsuga Tenshou. That being said, I think it required the Final Getsuga Tenshou to weaken Aizen enough that the Hogyoku would reject him.

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For all the people talking about how ichigo would just flex on aizen remember aizen made ichigo stronger as a test

Imagine if Kubo just kept going with the fullbring stuff and ichigo never got his shinigami powers back. Also if ichigo found his hidden quincy powers against ginjo instead of getting soul reapers powers back.

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Aizen secretly wanted to be defeated so I would say yes

Aizen’s power was going to keep on growing to the point it would’ve surpassed the final getsuga and mugetsu, his power stopped growing, the hogyoku rejected him and he got sealed.

Was it necessary? Unknown Was it wise? Yes That being said. I agree I was satisfied with it. I can also see it from a manga selling stand point. Could you imaging how one sided all the fights would of been in the 1000 Year Blood War arc if Ichigo kept that power? No one save maybe Ywach would be a match.

Mugetsu attack potency is crazy powerful. Lets explain why. First of all, Aizen couldn't even react to it, meaning that at very least mugetsu hits faster than light and could be hundreds of times faster than light. Based on the distance between Aizen and Ichigo and the the hole it have cut in the ground we can assume that the slash extended to at least 1000m of length. So, this whole distance was slashed faster than light. But wait, there is more. Based on how far up the cut went (above the mountain tops) and how deep it was we can assume that the slash was about 2000m of height. If we assume that the width of the cut was even and the same as the one left on the ground (lets say about 20cm=0.2m), then hit attack volume was at least 400'000 m^3. That means that everything in this volume was destroyed. But wait, there is more. If thing he slashed were simply destroyed, then we would have seen burst of flames, clouds of ashes or dusts, but no. Everything he slashed were simply erased out of existence. That means that instead of destroying things he slashed through, Ichigo destroyed space itself within his slash volume. That explains why after mugetsu we saw no clouds of ashes or matter turning into flames, etc. The space itself within his slash volume was destroyed and all matter within in was lost, and it would fit within physical nature of Ichigo's powers. And here is the math why it is crazy powerful. To destroy space itself you need power greater than that of vacuum energy - 10^113 J/m^3. So, mugetsu had attack potency of at least 4*10^118 J to destroy both space and all the mater within that space. Now, here are few comparisons to realize just how powerful mugetsu actually was: 2.24*10^32 J is about minimal energy you need to destroy the earth. 2.3*10^41 J is about minimal energy you need to destroy the sun. 2.12*10^47 J is about minimal energy you need to destroy our solar system. 5.7*10^51 J is about minimal energy you need to destroy a small galaxy. 1.15*10^78 J Is about minimal energy you need to destroy observable universe. All of these number were just for the matter, meaning that after destroying them the space and energy within that space would remain. I know Kubo is no a scientists and he didn't calculated anything, he simply drew what he wanted to drew, but based on what he drew mugetsu have attack potency of multiversal buster. And not simply multiversal - mugetsu essentially have attack potency to destroy billions upon billions of universes. Though, it was limited only to specific space of the slash Ichigo made, so while this attack had absolutely monstrous attack potency, but the actual damage to could do was very very limited. This is why Ichigo was and still is one of the most powerful character in fiction and he could one shot all remaining characters of Bleach, all characters of Naruto, superman, goku and so on. Nearly no character in fiction have enough durability to withstand mugetsu. Only characters with crazy regeneration could survive it. But wait, there is more. Ichigo used mugetsu while he was used to using only his shinigami powers and a little bit of hallow powers. Even at that, he wasn't adapted to most of his power and couldn't consciously control most of it. Zangetsu and White simply allowed to to use some (maybe not even all) their powers. However, after training in royal palace Ichigo learned to control and use all of his powers: shinigami, hallow and quicy powers. Also, Ichigo got even stronger over time, meaning his total power grown as well. So, if he were to use mugetsu after training in royal palace, then it should be much stronger than when he used it first time. If we assume that his total power grew linearly alongside of his combat power and if we assume that his power between fight with Aizen and fight with Yhwach grew about 10 times, then... Mugetsu should also become 10 more powerful = 4*10^119 J. But wait, there is more. Up till now we only assumed that only Ichigo's power grew. What if with all extra training, experience and age he would be able to maintain Final form for longer, attack more times than once or make other attack patters (for example: mugetsu stab). What if he was able to concentrate all destructive power of mugetsu at single point and then stab Yhwach multiple times? What if he was able to release multiple mugetsu attacks in a row? Even if that reduce attack potency of mugetsu by half, nobody would still be able to withstand a single mugetsu, but several of them would be an overkill.

Ey can you talk about how we never got to see his inner world again after he got the his zanpaktou reforged. It always bugged me that we never got to see him talk to his zanpaktou more and even learn new abilities like how he got to learn the cross getsuga. We never saw whos in his inner world in shikai and bankai i never seen this addresses yet would be very nice. Also good videos and it makes sense whenever you realise he was fighting against hogyouku

Honestly the moment he got Aizen out of the town is the moment he should have used it to end the fight instantly, and no the moment he starts to lose his powers is when he uses the attack Mugetsu otherwise he would have tried to finish the fight as fast as possible. I am sure he could have fought in that black haired form if he really wanted but he wanted to understand Aizen's viewpoint so he let the fight go on for a bit before going for the kill and trying to end it.

If was necessary it's Questionable but man it was a beautiful thing to see

Yes, he needed to nuke aizen hard enough that he killed him before he evolved to the point he actually became a problem. He could of slapped him around for a couple more transformations thou. He blocked 6 ceros with 1 arm.. broke a choke hold from aizen casually swinging his arm... he was still waaaay ahead of aizen. He wouldnt of been able to put him down without mugetsu thou. He basically devolved aizen when he hit him.. the kido took affect at that point.

To me, the author knew there would be more story but Ichigo did not. Ichigo has always wanted a normal life and all of the trials and tribulations he went through to get to the end boss. He figured after Aizan there was nothing left and his powers were "borrowed" anyway. So in his eyes he just wanted to be done with it all and stop the suffering and fighting and he was prepared to lose his powers but the big bad would finally be finished.

originally the series was going to end there, but from what’s known the guy had some other ideas and worked a way to continue afterwards. And man was it good!

I think it was needed, I just would have liked Kubo to at least show Ichigo fighting against Aizen's "Monster" form for a bit before deciding to use it. I would imagine Ichigo was still a bit stronger at that point, but it still would have been nice to just get an extra chapter of them fighting.

Those who have read the final arc of manga knows how absurdly powerful Aizen is. So yes, he needed the Final Getsuga Tenshou

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Wow, you gave me a new perspective about the fight that I never thought before. Good video, man. Subscribed.

You have to remember that Ichigo's cloak represents his reiatsu, and after taking the fragor hit, his cloak does take significant damage. He seems to be able to use his arm, but it is clear that he is at risk.

I mean probably. I reached this conclusion as aizen was evolving at a rapid speed, so he had to finish the fight quickly before aizen out grew him

The sword is bound to this right hand he had to go all in.

i was always under the impression that even before mugestu he was still in that final form because his sword is fused with his hand mugestu was just kind of the ultimate attack of that form, like even if he didnt go mugestu he was already fused with tensa and would have ended up loosing his power?

Yeahh.. he need to use it to fight Aizen.. but I would love to see this final form combine with Rukia's Bankai - Hakka no Togame when he fight Yhwach.. because their form look perfect with almost same superb attack..

I love the story stand point as you said that it’s a lose lose situation for Ichigo like there was no way for him to get out of that fight. But it makes me wonder (because i feel like he was just toying with Aizen the whole time until he used final getsuga tenshou) that if he would have just went full out at the very beginning could have he beaten aizen so bad if it would have caused the same amount of damage as the final getsuga tenshou did

From what I understand, Ichigo needed to overwhelm Aizen, in extension the Hogyouku, and shatter his will. Aizen's once unbreakable will is shattered. And at the same time, if Ichigo's words are to be believe, his subconscious desire was also granted during the battle, to meet someone as special as he is. Aizen, for even a short moment, contended with what he's achieved, no longer desiring power, the Hogyouku responds by taking it away. That short instance with Aizen depowered is all Urahara needs to seal Aizen. Of course, once Aizen's will is restored, we see him going back to full power again.

Im so sad bleach manga is over i just finished yesterday will there be more Or is it over.

I appreciate you acknowledging Aiden's bravado/talking to himself the whole time Ichigo was stoically preparing to clap them transcended cheeks

I always took it as a reverse DBZ move. Ichigo's strat was to 1 shot Aizen before he could power up further, which Aizen did get 1 more power up in, but it still wasn't enough. So he may not have needed to use it, but it was the safest bet.

...........it was wise really for Ichigo to use the full power of Final Getsuga Tenshou to end the battle right there & then, swiftly, accurately & forcefully to defeat Aizen.......if Kubo decided to lengthen the final battle with Aizen further enough, the impact on us might be far greater, but given how the pre-Arrancar Arc backstory & the main arc itself has shown how OP Aizen really has become, the fight might become too old if, as ya have said , Aizen continuous to grow far stronger as the fight progresses.......

I don’t think it was that necessary he seemed to have it handled without it. Think he was just completely fed up with Aizen, his personality and arrogance. Think he just wanted to shut him up. Did that mean killing him? Most likely though the only person Ichigo has intentionally killed was Yhwach and Ginjo. Though they were relatively valid reasons I feel he had his reasons for it using it. Maybe he tried to finish Aizen before he could change his mind, or just because he hated the fight with Aizen and wanted to finish it ASAP.

I think it was necessary as it weakened Aizen enough for Urahara's seal to work. Aizen's "desire" or "wish" was also granted.

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The real question is why Urahara's Kido didn't activate after Gin basically killed him. But as for this topic, I always thought that Ichigo was in a special state where he had to use the Mugetsu soon after, as if his chained arm form was in preparation of the final Getsuga Tenso. I thought this because I couldn't really believe that Ichigo would surpass Aizen just with training for that time alone, and my theory is supported by the fact that when he gets his powers back afterwards, we don't see that form again, meaning that it wasn't one of his natural progressive stages of his Zanpakto, but more similar to Aizen's cocoon stage and his next form had to be Mugetsu. We never really were given alot of explanation about this part tho, and basically none of Ichigo's inner monologue was given during this time.

Even though Ichigo looks confident during the fight, it was always clear that Aizen would eventually overwhelm him. So instead of letting Aizen catch up he used everything to pause the fight, leaving Aizen weakened enough for the seal to work, even though Ichigo wanted to end the fight with Mugetsu. Aizen was going to win if given enough time, so Mugetsu was absolutely necessary to win fast, Ichigo knew that, because Aizen was starting to damage him in increasingly dangerous attacks.

Ichigo had a time limit on that form.. plus Aizen had the hogyoku, well actually 2 hogyokus fused and thus adaptable transformations. Thats why he wasnt effected by any of ichigos attacks, because he had almost instant healing. Mugetsu made aizen regress temporarily but then pushed him to fully fuse with kyoka suigetsu. The only reason the seal activated is because deep down Aizen was ok with the outcome since ichigo was an outsider who just so happened to have the rare ability to evolve without the hogyoku and use all reiatsu types. Obviously we know why now, the actual question is, could achieve this form again, and if so how does it scale to his form at the end of the manga... Anyhow these are my thoughts

I agree with you. There was no way for Ichigo to know how fast Aizen can increase his power nor how powerful his attack has to be to defeat him. So yeah, it was the best option. By the way it's one of my favorite moments in Bleach.

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Ichigo: Uses Mugetsu Me: Regeneration time already?

Well no, he should even have finished the fight right at the begining after cuting the mountain

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Remember this is the guy who yhwach himself feared and even tried to stop him from contacting his hollow for full power.

To me Mugetsu should've been his Bankai, that design is too cool to be only use once.

I feel like Aizen would have definitely kept evolving and getting stronger. The hogyoku's "true power is in it's ability to sense the heart of the user and materialize their deepest desires" Aizen had a God complex, he believed himself the ultimate being and as a result the hogyoku made him Immortal and gave him power beyond anything he'd ever encountered before. when he was fighting Ichigo he was baffled and in denial, refusing to accept that he could be bested, so as a result the hogyoku evolved him even further to materialise his will. This is why Ichigo needed final getsuga, If he didn't win here, Aizen would eventually evolve to match his level... but when Aizen is cut clean in two, he's so completely undeniably out matched that it breaks his will... he realises just how strong Ichigo is and internally accepts his defeat... and in that moment the hogyoku rejects him because he no longer has the will to manifest his desires.

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Still curious how Ichigo's final Getsuga form has an arm not-covered. As if Aizen's attack had damaged not only the shihakusho, but the damage dealt isn't completely healed. On a close note, Aizen still was unable to feel Ichigo. So it would seem like the transformations forced by the Hogyoku were far from enough. Maybe there was a fixated multiplier each time?

Yes, aizen would of kept evolving. He had to try and put him down for good 1 shot.

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He's actions marked his Quincy powers coming fro.

Couldn't he have tried to destroy the Hogyoku instead? It was literally hanging by strings in the hole in his chest, and if he's already so much stronger than Aizen throughout the entire fight, shouldn't Ichigo have been strong enough to just destroy it before it makes Aizen even stronger and eventually equal to or stronger than him? I think it would have been pretty simple if he'd have just finished it and not taking his time defeating him, as it didn't seem like the Hogyoku could tell exactly how strong Ichigo was in order to power Aizen up further to match his strength. It must have reacted according to Aizen's perception of Ichigo's power, and therefore his underestimating of said power was what lead to his defeat.

I spoke with someone about this before. Aizen survived the mugetsu but it was such an incredible force that it damaged him. And the damage made his will waver; something in which Aizen never thought could happen, especially by a mortal. And because of this, the hogyoku rejected him. So by this we know it doesn't matter what the technique is, all that matters is that Aizen's will must be shaken, and that can only happen with an overwhelming force (whether that be mugetsu, a serious beatdown, or any event Aizen deems impossible). The key here is Aizen's own mental constitution and how to make him doubt himself. But remember, mugetsu wasn't the first instance where this happened. Aizen was already starting to have a mental breakdown from the very beginning when Ichigo slammed him into the ground. He was shocked at the fact that Ichigo had progressed so much in so little time and was able to do something he thought no one could ever do to him. Then again when Ichigo was casually destroying the terrain, and again when he smacked away the hado 90. Mugetsu was just the icing on the cake. So was mugetsu necessary to defeat Aizen in the fashion that he was? No. But for the sake of the story, yes. Had Ichigo been allowed to keep his dangai powers, he would've broken the series.

Yup, exactly a race against the hougyoku pushing further evolutions. So it was necessary to go full Mugetsu while Ichigo had the upper hand. In hindsight it is a very well put together fight. And Gin's role in it is very vital. Gin killing Aizen and him coming back is the first tell that there is no stopping the hougyoku pushing further evolutions. This and Aizen's line about needing the fear of death also a great counter plot-hole as to why Ichigo not being under hypnosis was key to Aizen's plan. As in the end Aizen seeking that challange was a key step if he was ever to reach his goal of becoming a conscious Soul King. He needed to exploit the hougyoku evolutions to stans a chance against the likes of Ichibe, and for that he needed Ichigo to be a genuine threat. Also Gin choosing that moment to betray Aizen first seems a but contrived but makes perfect sense. Aizen was a strategist, prepared for everything and No one knew this more than Gin. The fact that Gin choose to strike then at Aizen's most powerful (until then) and not before is a tell of him getting increasingly unhinged while merging with the hougyoku and so close to his endgame. And this mental breakdown was their only shot whether anyone knew it beforehand or not. In the end Gin and Aizen was quite similar and Ichigo the polar opposite. They sacraficed everything for their selfish goal even their personality and morals. Gin for the revenge, Aizen for the godlike powers "to set the world right". Ichigo on the other hand sacraficed everything for a selfless goal and symbolically that was the make or brake in the hougyoku VS mugetsu. It is one thing knowing your allies are just tools and you will get to discard them once you are at the endgame and the snake in your hand may be out for your blood... but actually going through with it, what will you became. Tousen and the Espada dead, Gin showing his fang, so close to your goals, but what are you at this point Sousuke-kun? Quite a harrowing feeling. No suprise Aizen cracked when over all that that little human exploit-slave kept coming back with an unshakable resolve. As time goes by my appreciation for this fight just grows.

Small correction: Dont just say that "Ichigo came out with just a charred arm" He took serious dmg from the small nuke aizen threw and this can be seen by the amount of reiatsu he expended or lost by looking at his clothes He basically lost asizeable portion of his tunic (which is a representation of his spirit energy level) and l believe thats when he commits and decides to end the man before evolves yet further

Yes mugetsu was necessary that was the only way to seal aizen

Okay the way your explained that planes of transcendence makes much more sense than when i orginally read the manga. Cause I wonder throughout the 100 year war arc if ichigo never once again became trancendent because everyone could sense his power.

Keep in mind, ichigo is also half quincy. The manifestation was a representation of his quincy power, and since the manifestation (Black Zangetsu) fused with White Zangetsu, he accepted the blade from fused tensa zangetsu and thus transcended Aizen due to his additional bloodline and if he hit the Hogyoku with his Mugetsu, i believe he would have won.

The real question is how did Isshin know about the final getsugatenshou

Ichigo never wanted to kill Aizen, just wanted to demoralise him to the point that his inner desires would betray him to the Hōgyoku. When Aizen regenerates himself after Final Getsuga the Hōgyoku delivers on Aizen's hidden desire to be normal and not to feel loneliness anymore. There's a reason he effectively trained Ichigo for this moment, it was so he could finally fight someone he could consider his equal.

Due to Kubo's declining health he didn't necessarily get to expand on the ending of Bleach and it ended rather abruptly (From what I've read, interviews, etc). But, I heard some rumors that with the anime returning they'll be expanding the content (same end, because Kubo reached the way he wanted the series to end) to give us what he felt it should have been had he not rushed (That way moments like Yamamoto's Bankai could really shine). Have you heard anything about this? Or is this just fans hoping and praying that's the case as nobody has given a concrete source. I hope this is the case, it did feel rushed, but I was still pleased with the way it ended. Thank you for all the wonderful content all things Bleach, it's absolutely divine. I hope your channel continues to grow and you get the recognition you deserve for your hard work!

This may be just a thought from a simpleton but since ichigo's shihakusho resembled how much spirit energy he had in bankai form when he explained it to Unohana, perhaps the damage he took from Aizens attack actually lowered his overall power level and that was why he decided he needed to use it now before it becomes ineffective against aizen? If that is the case, must be a troublesome power to have to fight unscathed or perhaps it's because Ichigo never had access to his full power set? Just my thoughts

Personally I think it was necessary. I feel like he kinda owed it to aizen. He played a big role in Ichigo getting stronger and it was his doing that Ichigo even learned it.

I think it was. In my opinion, it even seemed like it fell short (haven't read TYBW, so I could be wrong). Had Urahara not been there to seal the weakened Aizen, Ichigo wouldn't have been able to overcome him. Hogyoku was just way too much of a threat if left unchecked.

At first it looked like Ichigo didn’t want to use the final getsuga tensho, and I think it’s obvious why that’s the case (why use it if you don’t have to). Because Aizen is functionally immortal and constantly evolving, within a short time, Aizen evolved enough to wound Ichigo. It was shortly after that moment which Ichigo decided to stop messing around and end the fight. It had to be done.

Have not watched this video yet, but the title has been my question for a long time.

“lost everything” *gets his powers back literally a month later*

Using it was not necessary. He did not have to "defeat" Aizen, he just had to weaken him to the point where Urahara could seal him.

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Aizen known, new and posible traits and ideas if you want to read: -Beyond immortal, or simply put, immune to death. Only seals, high level kido and enough physical strength can damage him. Other than that, he won't die by anything. -He does not use regeneration, the Hogyoku simply rewinds the body to a prior state of being. -Said jewel can make one's existence stronger if you hold the potential and sufficient will to do so, so Aizen can evolve indefinitely given no seals and the jewel detects a new wish from it's master. -He's now fused with his zanpakuto, meaning that he can manifest his sword through his bogy whenever, and any skill or ability that it has, can be activated without one's noticing. Commands and requeriments still have to be done, although. -Without seals, his reiatsu is on Hogyoku: Chrysalis State. In the manga, however, it is unknown why, but his reiatsu keeps increasing indefinitely, like a Broly-type transformation. -Keep in mind, that his existence transcends both Shinigami and Hollow, but he's neither. He's a "mixture" in a new, kind, stronger existence. -Should he decide to be a Reio Candidate or become a Reio himself, he still needs to transcend Human and Quincy alike. -The Hogyoku is part of him now, imposible to extract, it will return to him if done nevertheless. -Fragor and Ultrafragor are not Cero like attacks. Think of these like a high compressed Getsuga Tensho in a bomb like structure. -In the manga, his non incantation Kurohitsugi now is an multi aoe that warps spacetime. Meaning, the full incantation is a black hole. Definitely not in the face. -The only kido that Aizen doesn't know are the ones manipulating spacetime. Currently only 2 are known. Kisuke and Mayuri know them, although.

My answer - but it was cool tho 😎

You mean one of the coolest transformations? Then yes.

subbed cuz i love bleach and you went in full depth of the fight. fucking love this. good shit bro.

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I felt it was unnecessary, he was toying with Aizen before hand.

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I loved the Final Getsuga Tensho and thought it was the perfect bookend to the series and concluded the story fantastically. Everything afterwards has always felt like a slap dash because of how excellent the end of the Aizen Saga was.

but kisuke himself said that the hogyku was weakening and that it was turning against him but at the same time i understand why he used it cause later on during the timeskip he said that he didn't want his shinigami powers and only wanted to protect his loved ones and that he didn't want to see ghosts so that's my only theory on why he actually used Mugetsu.

I believe that he did need to use mugetsu at that point. The only evidence I can bring is that I remember sometime before, I cant remember what arc it was, Ichigo was explaining to unohana that his clothing was a representation of his remaining reiatsu. The fact that aizen blew away part of his sleeve and shihakusho. Leads me to believe that depending on the power ups the Hogyoku gives aizen per save, he could overtake his power fairly quickly. Ichigo was kicking his ass initially. Then aizen transformed and then blasted his arm and part of his shihakusho away. The next incarnation could have been devastating. So yeah i feel like mugetsu was necessary.

First of all, great work on the videos! They're very educational. I agree that Ichigo had to use the final Getsuga Tenshou, and he used it at the absolute last minute. But I disagree with the statement that Aizen is merely a "vessel" for the Hogkyoku. During his encounter with Urahara, Aizen claims to have in fact, "subjugated" the Hogyoku. Kurosaki's final attack drained Aizen of his strength and weakened him enough to break his control of the Hogyoku. This weakened state, made him vulnerable to Kisuke's seal.

idk why but this was the one that got me to sub, sorry i took so long, i really enjoy your content.

Enjoyed this clarification! Never thought I could like Bleach more now that it all makes sense

When I first read it I interpreted it as Dangai Ichigo was already losing his powers and the Final Getsuga Tensho just accelerated this with his final attack