Brass knobs make this amp sound better? Give me a break.

Howard Skillington he’s talking about the feet... but still I can’t think of any reason brass would sound better than iron 😂

With all due respect Thomas, how could an expert reviewer like you be unable to tell if the knobs are made of plastic or metal ? The difference is usually obvious !!!

Adlene BOULEBTATECHE do you think Thomas owns every Yamaha on the planet

have you seen the guys video who did a full breakdown with the schematics of the previous gens a-s1100 vs a-s2100? they were deemed nearly identical in design, minor differences yes bigger caps and balanced inputs but any difference in sound imperceivable under most circumstances... I wonder if the same is true here or if they did a little more to make them different....

may i ask which mcintosh? i am considering these two brands as well as luxman

Congrats, it will smoothenout over time, like 100hours

@@ThomasAndStereo , Thank you! Yes, sure 👍🏼👍🏼

Thank you so much!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Glad you like it!

Glad you liked it!

Glad it was helpful! Nice high production value youtube channel you have there!

If you only had one, which would you keep?

Given that the A S1200 is about 8 years newer and might have a longer lifespan, probably the A S1200 if one had to go.@@charlesking678

If you had to choose one which one would you keep?

I would keep the 1200. It is brand new and has a higher resale. But in my opinion the A S2000 is a screaming buy at the seven to 800 dollars they now sell for. @@Rocket9944

Thanks, glad the video gave you some new perspective on this amp.

You bet!

I would say at least the AS1200 and up.

@@ThomasAndStereo after hearing the setup with the NS-5000 at the Montreal Audio Fest 2019 I was blown away. Maybe you should consider reviewing them loud speakers. That would be interesting 👀

Hi Kevin, would you mind sharing what speakers your are pairing with the S2200 please? Thanks Kevin.

@@kevinpreest3915 Sure thing. GoldenEar Triton 2's. I listen to just vinyl and have a front end consisting of a Transrotor Max with Jelco 750 arm and Hana EL cartridge. Using a Vertere Phono 1 phono preamp so I'm not using the Yamaha's phono stage, but I hear it is very good. Absolutely love how it sounds.

@@MrKevart66 Thanks Kevin. That sounds a pretty awesome setup! 👌. It certainly is interesting to see what others are pairing with this amplifier and give other tried and proven options. The caveat being the room of course. Thanks again!

Thanks. originally I was going to include speaker pairing experience in the video but I took it out to keep the video short.

👍 well said

Interesting and nicely said. Thanks for sharing and it will give people something to think about.

phantasm1004 touché well said.

@@phantasm1004 Pretty far from audiosnob. I bought the A-S2100 for around a 1000 bucks used (lucky me indeed). As far class D goes, in my personal experience.it takes a lot of cash to make Class D sound good. But, regular Class AB and some Chinese Hifi Class A can sound great for far less cash. I am in no position to argue this. I will let this compiled list of amp designers do the arguing instead. If you are a greater expert than these amp designers, please enlighten me. audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/31671-class-d-turns-out-it-does-suck/

@@wa2368 Those comments are from 2012..... Hypex NCore & Purifi have changed the game since.

Thanks! You too! Some people was suspecting it was break in!

Agreed!

Приветствую Вас из Риги ! Скажите пожалуйста, Ямаха 2200 действительно СЧ преподносит более ярко и они выделяются из всего диапазона ? Был опыт кратковременный с предыдущим поколением (A-S1100) и там этого точно не было. Заранее благодарен за ответ.

@@genaishivatov1737 здравствуйте! Привет из Киева! Она звучит так же как и 1100 по тональному балансу. Только глубже сцена, прозрачнее картинка. Думаю, за счет улучшения питания она мало чем отличается от 3000 линейки. В целом на все Ямахи озыв о выраженных ВЧ. Я думаю, что это из за повышенной детальности данные ощущения. Все это решается посредством подбора АС или кабелей, как и в других случаях.

Да, согласен на счёт ВЧ, сколько видел роликов - подключают к каким-то спорным АС с металлизированными или просто слабыми твитерами. Думаю, на хороших, фирменных динамиках эти усилители показали бы всё богатство Музыки.

@@genaishivatov1737 у меня американские SVS Pinacle к ним подключены, с алюминевыми дифуззорами. А у них звук, после шелка кажется ярковат сам по себе. Все решилось подбором межблочников и заменой силовых. Парень, который делает силовые предложил аж 12 мм немецкие, за реальные деньги. Звук поменялся фантастически. Я пишу лишь потому, что это повлияло на весь спектр и на высокие в том числе. В целом, я удивлен на "наезды" на японские бренды, в частности на ямаха. Я сравнивал в магазине и продавцы тоже гурманы, удивлены сказали, что этот уделывает макинтош за 10.000 и еще один гибридник из европы за 8.000 (названия не помню). Цитирую: "По всем параметрам и в одни ворота". Единственно, что долго грелся. Слушаю музыку тихо. Долгие месяцы ушло на великолепный бас, который может выдавать Ямаха. У меня еще 4 стойки с аппаратурой, так что это не то, что "уши привыкли". Так же долго грелся и Денон 1600. Поэтому тут без мистики.

@@press227 so you belive that the power cable affect the sound. Can you explain that?

Many thanks!

Nice, it is great when we have more options to choose from and there are a lot of hidden gem out there like this one.

warm?

Its not getting to warm 😉

@@Elop74 Is the sound on the warm side?

Sounds smooth n light warm

Glad you enjoyed!

Haha. My memory is so bad and I googled that so many times but keep making mistakes when I start filming.

Thanks. The only thing is the focal speakers were closer to each other when I recorded them and also the mic was not at tweeter level when I record the 2nd sound clip. Having said that, in real life, I actually prefer it with the Focal and was very surprised. This is why I always say, you never know until you plug it in.

Great to hear!

Thanks for the heart warming feedback.

Hi! Do you stil have the a s2200? How you compare this to the vintage one? I m interesting to buy an as1200 and currently have myself a vintage unit.

@@narcistimofte6448 Yes I still have the 2200, The vintage amp that I have is a 1981 Yamaha R-1000, in general the 2200 has great sound, and has the classic Yamaha "Natural Sound" characteristic of the late 70's CR-440 through CR-2040 series and the early 1980's R-700 through R-2000 series integrated Amps. I have never listened to one of the mid 1970's CR-1020 through CR-3020 series to be able to comment. The New 2200 doe's not have a loudness control feature that my R-1000 had, nor the spatial Expander Function. That was only on the R-700 through R-2000 units. I have not yet used the XLR inputs on the 2200. the only source used so far is a Yamaha WXC-50 and apple music and I phone music library, which is what I was using with the R-1000 that I removed from service in Dec. 2021. The R-1000 has much more in the tone control - Bass, Trebble, Presence (Midrange) as well as Loudness, and Spatial Expander (imaging compensation for room influences). Main reason for replacing my R-1000 was that it made scratching sounds when turning the volume control and other tone controls and sometimes made crackling sounds in midrange frequencies, I assume due to 40 year old capacitors and other compoents in the output stages which are integrated non serviceable pieces. I'm driving old Infinity RS5/B speakers 3 way - 4 ohm, 88-89 dB - sensitivity level speakers rated by mfg to operate in the 35 to 125 Watt power range with no issues. Short answer after all of that, so far really happy with the 2200 remote control is one of the best features, The Yamaha "Signature Sound" of this unit is as expected strong in the midrange.

Thanks, I am tempted to ask for the M3 after watching Ron's review on it. Shipping will cost them an arm and a leg to get it to me.

@@ThomasAndStereo Well Clayton Shaw from Spatial should have some Mktg budget free'd up from not attending all the trade shows this year. Plus your channel as well as Sean's would be right up the demographic of folks that would buy a speaker in the $ range where other reviewers might specialize on more of the budget end... I know he did Spatial M3 Sapphire + Lampizator Amber 3 dac and forget the integrated amp he did in the series.

@@aceofspades6667 That would make sense. I guess I will eventually reach out to Ron asking him for an introduction.

...the Four Musketeers! :-)

Interesting, this reminds me that North Americans tend to find European chocolate "not sweet", since the Europeans add extra sugar to their chocolate before exporting it to North America, to compete with super sugary Hershey, etc.

Which German hi end for example? I have the RME dac and love it.

The beryllium tweeter is known for clarity. One thing I did not do was put the mic at tweeter level when recording from the Sonata so my bad.

Yeah, I was surprised by the combo with the Focal myself.

@@ThomasAndStereo Ok, just ordered some Tekton Lore's with BE tweeters, funny enough Jay just reviewed those speakers:) If I survive the wife's inevitable yelling/nagging about yet another speaker pair, I will post a video review comparing the Zu Audio Omen DW2 and the Tekton Lore sometime around x-mas.

I'm using an A-S2000 with Focal Chorus 726's and they sound stunning. Previously was pairing the Focals with a Peachtree 125SE and before that a Cambridge Asur 851A

Thanks for watching!

Glad it was helpful! I was really curious myself.

With 80Hz filter the small midbass drivers don't distort because they don't have to handle bass signals. Unless the drivers are very well designed and linear (also expensive), anything below 100Hz makes the spkrs distort way more than in midrange where the cone excursion is very limited. Same as you can not ask tweeter to handle bass.

Thanks for watching!

Jingle Nuts I settled on a Simaudio Moon i5.3 instead. No longer looking into Yamaha.

@Jingle Nuts The AS2100 has XLR connections. Not sure about the "bigger caps." The AS2100 looks identical to the 2200.

Strangely, I loved it most with Focal. A question of taste.

Nice!

Nice, it means you like this kind of voicing, thanks for sharing.

Thomas & Stereo you bet. and yep, I guess I do - though I can see how some might not or how it could quickly become too much if there was any more added vs what Im hearing out of my 1100.

Thanks! All amps should have meters ...lol.

@@ThomasAndStereo Ageeed!

Congrats!!

@@ThomasAndStereo Thanks. This is the first Solid State Amp that I have owned that makes me question tubes....

@@ThomasAndStereodid you compare it to the Denon pma 2500ne? And what’s your opinion?

Many thanks

Thanks, I don't have any headphone at home so I don't know. Sorry.

Well, the speakers were also breaking in so it contributed to the overall sound change.

The new series Yamaha A-S1200, 2200 and 3200 no longer use Mosfet-transistors in the powerstage section but normal ones! The old A-S1100, 2100 and 3000 where Mosfet desings and the topline at that time... They have downgraded the new A-S1200, 2200 and 3200 series to premium grade and Yamaha now only uses Mosfest in their flagship series C-5000/M-5000!

@@preude1 are you saying the older series (1100,2100), are better than new series ? Because of that MOSFET amplification? I'm interested to buy a new a s1200 , but I haven't heard the a s1100

@@narcistimofte6448 Not better but different, the new C/M-5000 has Mosfet-amplification. The other series 1200, 2200, 3200 no longer mentioned.

Break in! What breaks in on an amp?

Working on it!

Thanks Dave and my favorite speaker pairing with it is the Focal actually. The Harbeth 30.1 was interesting too but I have to try again now that I have put 100 hours on it.

Jingle Nuts is that for me ? I use Duelund tinned copper cables

They were supposed to send me something at the beginning of the year actually. I guess I will have to wait longer.

Thanks

Congrats. I was supposed to review the AS3200 actually. I am curious the difference.

@@ThomasAndStereo I sure hope there is a difference as I had to pay an additional $3,500.00 for the AS3200.

@@rickp6731 yes Rick, $20k for both is very expensive for just a little improvement

Yeah, they were supposed to send me something to review.

Tharbamar, another Stereo reviewer on youtube, reviewed the mighty LUXMAN - L-550AxII last year when he claimed he is on his way looking for his reference amp. LUXMAN - L-550AxII came to his short list for a while. But eventually he said the LUXMAN has all the charms but lacking a bit base.

@@MultiKas2010 ​ Interesting I've never heard of Tharbamar. Seems like a humble guy. He seems happy with his set up. I get it, with bookshelves some people might want a little more bass response... but the midrange of the Luxman (all Luxman's really) is so sweet!

How about Accuphase amps?

Hope the video is interesting for you.

Thomas & Stereo Yes, informative (and entertaining). Since I have the Yamaha r-n803 I’m curious what my next upgrade will be , however I may put cash towards speakers (currently have the Klipsch 5000f and I need more “body” and midrange separation ).

Never heard them,sorry.

Yeah, I should be getting the accuphase and luxman in for review too.

Thanks for sharing

How do the KLH Model 5's sound with it? I've been eyeballing those for a while. I have the A-S2000