I love finding your comments throughout Christian KZfaq lol. Last I saw you was in the Ten Minute Bible Hour comment section.

God made it so....the dietary laws given by Moses to the Israelites, 3000 years ago! Herbivores that obtain their food by grazing or browsing on grasses and other plants. These are the animals which you may eat among all the beasts’ that are on the earth... whatever divides the hoof having cloven hooves and chewing the cud. These animals have four-chambered stomachs that convert grasses that are inedible to humans and other animals into nutritious, high-quality protein products (meat and milk) that people can then use for food. The dietary laws prohibit the consumption of all carnivorous animals and omnivorous animals for very logical reasons. God created clean animals to provide food and by-products for human use. He created animals unsuitable for human consumption for other purposes. Carnivores, as beasts of prey, play an important role in controlling the populations of other animals. As an example, wolves and mountain lions, which feed on herds of deer, control not only numbers but also help maintain the health of the herd by culling out older, sick or infirm animals. Biblically "clean fish" are generally free swimming in bodies of water. Most "unclean" fish are either bottom dwellers or predatory scavengers. Shellfish, lacking both fins and scales, are clearly excluded by the biblical dietary laws.. They are "bottom walkers" and "predatory scavengers" Crabs are referred to as "professional garbage hunters" and as "scavengers" that eat almost anything. These organisms were all created for a very important ecological purpose. They are, in essence, the "garbage collectors" or the "cleanup crew" for the bottoms of lakes, rivers, beaches, bays and oceans. They were not intended to be food for human beings. The biblical dietary laws are simple, rational, practical and profound. Long before human beings knew the details of disease-causing microorganisms, life cycles of parasites or global ecology, God revealed powerful principles that would provide safe, healthful food and prevent the spread of disease for anyone who would be willing to follow these instructions. Unclean animals that were physically unhealthy to eat in the days of Moses are just as unhealthy today.

@@jamesrey3221 Dude, the whole dietary laws were about how God determines what is clean and unclean. It was never about food but to remind Jews that there is such thing as "clean" and "unclean" and it's God who has the authority and not man.

@@jamesrey3221 That in no way answers the qustion.

Common misconception: "satan" isn't a character or a name of a angel it's a label that relates to adversaries or obstacle. Humans , entities, etc were called satan because they were considered a adversary or obstacle. Also in the original text and Jewish belief there was no war in heaven. Evil spirits(shedim) were considered decedents of the serpant that deceived Adam and eve. The war in heaven might be a pagan concept that was inspired from old myths like Greek mythology titanomachy or Norse mythology the Æsir-Vanir War.

@@happymate8943 This is retconning the category of “Jew”. To believe this is to deny that the Jews who wrote the Book of Jubilees, 1 Enoch, etc (ie the 2nd Temple Texts that Rabbinical Judaism later declared heretical) were not really “Jews” The idea of angelic rebellion - a Rabbinical Jewish friend of mine calls it ‘Enochian’ as in 1 Enoch (not to be confused with the occult term from 16th Century England) - is at least as old as the Essenes / Dead Sea Scrolls And hey, not my business to try and assert myself into the middle of an argument about who was really “Jewish”, but at minimum the idea that [this all was just some Greek/occult influence or syncretism] is quite simply false

You *have* to leave fundamentalist circles if you want to grow. They're ossified. Join an Apostolic Church or one of the non-progressive Mainlines.

I was thinking of Heiser and adjacent theologians while watching this, too. I have had a similar experience as you with "re-enchantment" and getting to relearn these old ideas. I think this video is very helpful in making ideas like Heiser's more palatable because something like theodicy and natural evil is something that is much more relevant to most people today, as opposed to (for example) whether or not the nephilim were actual giants.

Heiser has always said he was not coming up with anything new

Mate, I think your questions re. the YEC have reasonable answers.

@@anthonywhitney634 I do too. I was thinking about offering a friendly critique of what Gavin said about YEC but I thought maybe I would wait for his video about YEC first.

Here’s another question. Who temped Lucifer to become prideful? If sin cannot be in the presence of God and Lucifer was created to worship and serve God, then where did the temptation to sin (Lucifer wanting to be worshipped or do his own will) come from?

@@MichaelBravine1 Why do you assume Lucifer had to be tempted Maybe he was created with free will, actual autonomy in decision making. What if Gods sovereignty is far greater than our finite brains could even entertain. 🤔

​@@MichaelBravine1I think we will have the capacity to sin in heaven but always choose not to as all your needs will be met. We will have no reason to ever rebel. We understand the consequences of sin and desire God's holiness. Adam and Eve had not yet learned the complete reason to not sin before the fall of man I believe.

Can we do that? Can we combine the 2? 😁 I hope so, because I'm also YEC but this theory makes a lot of sense to me. I hope he does another video on it soon.

@@prophet32us How do you explain earth already existing in the beginning of Genesis?

@@justchilling704 I'm not sure if I correctly understand the wording of your question, but the view I've been taught, or the way I understand it at least, is that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth", i.e. basically the elements and the waters and some sort of core of the 🌎 that was maybe covered in water. But no animals or visible dry land yet, and it was "formless and void" until after God did the separating of the waters and brought forth dry land. I know some YEC say that verse 1 is a catch-all summary of the verses that follow, but I guess I don't believe that.

@@prophet32us Okay I was just curious and you did capture my point. Now that I think of it the way I worded my reply may have come across like I don’t think the universe had a beginning or something which biblically is absurd. I think God created the earth in that void or formless state first.

Yeah, cool. Thanks for asking. Really. I am trying to learn more about the old earth creationist point of view and all this stuff fascinates me, anyway. It's fun and rather awe-inspiring to consider.

You realize jesus' message wasn't meant for gentiles, but for his Jewish followers? "Jesus instructs his disciples not to preach to Gentiles or in Samaritan cities.[Matthew 10:5-8]" Also Common misconception: the word "satan" isn't a character or a name of a angel it's a label that relates to adversaries or obstacle. Humans , entities, etc were called satan because they were considered a adversary or obstacle. Also in the original text and Jewish belief there was no war in heaven. Evil spirits(shedim) were considered decedents of the serpant that deceived Adam and eve. The war in heaven might be a pagan concept that was inspired from old myths like Greek mythology titanomachy or Norse mythology the Æsir-Vanir War.

​@@happymate8943you should maybe read the gospel completely and not just the cherry picked bits and pieces that fit your heretical worldview.

I will also say, I am very intrigued with the notion that angels (and demons) are behind the material world we experience and were assigned roles in sustaining, governing, and possibly manipulating, different facets of the physical world. Truly fascinating! However, I am still uncomfortable with the idea, on biblical grounds, that angels contributed somehow to creation itself.

You realize jesus' message wasn't meant for gentiles, but for his Jewish followers? "Jesus instructs his disciples not to preach to Gentiles or in Samaritan cities.[Matthew 10:5-8]" Also Common misconception: the word "satan" isn't a character or a name of a angel it's a label that relates to adversaries or obstacle. Humans , entities, etc were called satan because they were considered a adversary or obstacle. Also in the original text and Jewish belief there was no war in heaven. Evil spirits(shedim) were considered decedents of the serpant that deceived Adam and eve. The war in heaven might be a pagan concept that was inspired from old myths like Greek mythology titanomachy or Norse mythology the Æsir-Vanir War.

@@happymate8943 So in Ezekiel 28 the king of Tyre is being compared to a non-existent/imaginary angelic rebel?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and so glad to be connected to you!

Something that helped me in my belief in Christianity was looking into the ressurection, the historical facts behind the empty tomb and accounts, the transformation in the view of James the skeptic brother of Jesus, the willingness of all the disciples to die without renouncing belief in Jesus's ressurection and the fact that based upon the Jewish beliefs at the time to come up with or hallucinate the ressurection wouldn't happen as individual ressurection was never thought of and ascension like Elijahs would be a more natural idea.

Cool comment. I enjoyed reading it.

Wow. An engineer who gets it! Colour me surprised! 😉

You realize jesus' message wasn't meant for gentiles, but for his Jewish followers? "Jesus instructs his disciples not to preach to Gentiles or in Samaritan cities.[Matthew 10:5-8]" Also Common misconception: the word "satan" isn't a character or a name of a angel it's a label that relates to adversaries or obstacle. Humans , entities, etc were called satan because they were considered a adversary or obstacle. Also in the original text and Jewish belief there was no war in heaven. Evil spirits(shedim) were considered decedents of the serpant that deceived Adam and eve. The war in heaven might be a pagan concept that was inspired from old myths like Greek mythology titanomachy or Norse mythology the Æsir-Vanir War.

@@happymate8943 while Jesus was announcing the kingdom of God in Galilee and Judea, he primarily focused on a Jewish audience, all the while including gentiles whom the Father had prepared to receive healing and salvation. After his resurrection, Christ threw open the kingdom of God for the whole world (see Matthew 28). There is no misconception as to the term ha satan (the accuser). While the term does not connote a proper noun in the sense of a name, there is no doubt that Jesus used the idea of Satan or the devil to refer to the ruler of this age who has been a liar from the beginning (John 8:44). With regard to your notion of a war I Heaven being a pagan importation, I find this highly dubious and unconvincing. In the Apocalypse of John there is a war in heaven. In Genesis 6 there is a rebellion of angelic beings. And before all of that, there was a primordial enemy in serpent form in the Garden of God, temping humans away from fealty to the LORD.

You realize jesus' message wasn't meant for gentiles, but for his Jewish followers? "Jesus instructs his disciples not to preach to Gentiles or in Samaritan cities.[Matthew 10:5-8]" Also Common misconception: the word "satan" isn't a character or a name of a angel it's a label that relates to adversaries or obstacle. Humans , entities, etc were called satan because they were considered a adversary or obstacle. Also in the original text and Jewish belief there was no war in heaven. Evil spirits(shedim) were considered decedents of the serpant that deceived Adam and eve. The war in heaven might be a pagan concept that was inspired from old myths like Greek mythology titanomachy or Norse mythology the Æsir-Vanir War.

Common misconception: "satan" isn't a character or a name of a angel it's a label that relates to adversaries or obstacle. Humans , entities, etc were called satan because they were considered a adversary or obstacle. Also in the original text and Jewish belief there was no war in heaven. Evil spirits(shedim) were considered decedents of the serpant that deceived Adam and eve. The war in heaven might be a pagan concept that was inspired from old myths like Greek mythology titanomachy or Norse mythology the Æsir-Vanir War.

You realize jesus' message wasn't meant for gentiles, but for his Jewish followers? "Jesus instructs his disciples not to preach to Gentiles or in Samaritan cities.[Matthew 10:5-8]" Also Common misconception: the word "satan" isn't a character or a name of a angel it's a label that relates to adversaries or obstacle. Humans , entities, etc were called satan because they were considered a adversary or obstacle. Also in the original text and Jewish belief there was no war in heaven. Evil spirits(shedim) were considered decedents of the serpant that deceived Adam and eve. The war in heaven might be a pagan concept that was inspired from old myths like Greek mythology titanomachy or Norse mythology the Æsir-Vanir War.

ha, totally forgot that scene!

Love Heiser’s work. It added a new facet into my interpretation of scripture. Sad that he lost his fight with cancer not long ago…

@ThoskaBrahWhich Church Fathers would that be? Heiser’s view is pretty consistent with the views of the Orthodox Church in many respects.

@ThoskaBrah Which Church Fathers? I’m not sure about your claim, but I am genuinely interested in what is true. If you could point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. Thank you.

You realize jesus' message wasn't meant for gentiles, but for his Jewish followers? "Jesus instructs his disciples not to preach to Gentiles or in Samaritan cities.[Matthew 10:5-8]" Also Common misconception: the word "satan" isn't a character or a name of a angel it's a label that relates to adversaries or obstacle. Humans , entities, etc were called satan because they were considered a adversary or obstacle. Also in the original text and Jewish belief there was no war in heaven. Evil spirits(shedim) were considered decedents of the serpant that deceived Adam and eve. The war in heaven might be a pagan concept that was inspired from old myths like Greek mythology titanomachy or Norse mythology the Æsir-Vanir War.

thanks so much for the kind words!

Made it all the way through! To be honest this is the first time I think about this. So this is my first approach to this issue. I always asked myself If before the man's fall the 2nd law of thermodynamics did not exist, which was weird in accordance to the previous natural history before man was created. Thank you for your insights