Portraying the Bible accurately means you are going to end up making something Catholic .It is very typical .

"You must sumbit a written formal inquiry to speak to the rock." I love that scene

I always imagined Jesus saying those words with his hand on Peter’s shoulder!

They handled Peter so well!

I'm hiding out here for a while from the rabid anti-Catholic attack mob. They haven't found this channel yet.

I wonder about the actual demographic of those who watch the show. I noticed some protestants refusing to watch because they believe the show to be “graven images”.

I love being Catholic. Been Catholic for 1 year and it's the greatest experience ever.

I don't really watch The Chosen much, but this scene and the little "dialogue additions" they added actually enhance the scene quite well -- the "dead gods" have nothing to offer their followers, but the "Living God" is able to produce a Son, and those who follow Him and His Church also become His children. Jonathan Roumie's performance after that line was also great, he sells that feeling of indescribable joy Jesus must've been feeling when he realized his top student was one step closer to becoming His brother. The Catholic Church is such a gift, it's The Way to obtaining theosis, and we should always pray, fast, and sacrifice for those who don't have unity with Peter's successors.

Viganò should watch this, lol

Growing up Protestant (but in RCIA and becoming Catholic next Easter), I heard many sermons on this part of the Bible. I can see why there wasn’t an uproar of backlash about these scenes, because it’s how most Protestants imagine it also when reading the Bible. They acknowledge that Peter was indeed chosen as a leader by Jesus to establish the initial *foundation* for his church. That this would be Peter’s task during his lifetime - to lay a solid foundation with which others could stand and to lead Jesus’ disciples (only the ones that Jesus knew - not future generations) after Jesus died. Therefore Protestants also believe that once Peter eventually died, this task was complete…and since Jesus didn’t explicitly mention that a successor would be needed…and since the New Testament doesn’t talk about appointing a successor after Peter…then that’s the end. That is the typical Protestant belief and I don’t think the show deviated from that or went against that in any way.

I saw a video of Dallas, the director, consulting with many theologians before writing the scripts. Many of those theologians where catholic, even Bishop Barron was there once!

Another thing is the subtitles. When he addressed Peter and gave him his new name it was a capitalized Rock, but when he said and on this rock it was lowercase

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Additinally, I love how the Chosen captures the authentic love of Jesus and Mary in the simple, tender, ordinary moments.

In Jesus’s Aramaic it’s much more implicit. He calls Peter ‘Kephas’, and on this Kephas I will build my church. There’s no other words for rock and the fabled ‘pebble’ like there is in Greek.

Luke 22 24 A dispute also arose among them, as to which of them was to be regarded as the greatest. 31 “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, 32 but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.” Imagine you're an apostle sitting at the last supper and Jesus says this to Peter in front of everyone when you literally just discussed who is the greatest amongst each other. How would you feel?

Im orthodox. Yes Peter has a place of primacy amongst the apostles do to his faithfulness. However, these Catholics never seem to be able to make any logical connection between this papal primacy and Vatican I papal indefectability, infallibility and the papacy’s geopolitical claims. Remember even Peter himself defected and denied Christ three times before returning to him. And if the pope is indefectible then why have the past three popes done things like pray with Muslims toward Mecca or venerated the Quran (an action that would indicate defection) according to the Roman church.

Peter has been depicted throughout this series as the "alpha" of the group (apart from Christ, of course) and everyone tends to look to him for leadership and guidance, particularly after this scene. Personally, I want to see how they handle the incident with Ananias and Sapphira, assuming they go that far.

The Bible confirms the papacy

To be historical and biblical honest is to affirm the papacy

It affirms the Catholic understanding because that is exactly how it is in the Bible.

To affirm the papacy, look to the readings on Eliakim & Shebna in Isaiah 22 starting in verse 15, not just Peter.

That second scene was funny. It made me laugh a lot. As for how it was depicted, "Simon becoming Peter" the truth is the truth as recorded in scriptures, our feelings about that are immaterial.

My personal take on The Eucharist is: when Jesus said, "Will you leave me too?" Peter's attitude wasn't an adoring, "where else would I go but You!", but more a disturbed, offended, "there isn't anywhere else we CAN go. We're not comfortable with this teaching either, but You are the only source of Truth. We'll stay and hope it makes sense later."

The Chosen has done a decent job at neither confirming nor denying Catholic/Protestant. I respect them for that because I watch various KZfaq channels that flesh out biblical history as it pertains to the show, and there was so much turmoil around Peter. One creator would literally laugh at the Catholic perspective while doing some serious mental gymnastics when trying to explain the protestant perspective. And, the comment section was full of liberated posters who were quite insulting over this topic. So, I do appreciate that The Chosen does it's best to depict what is biblically accurate without imposing any particular point of view. I look forward to the roundtables that are coming out soon. I like hearing all perspectives and deciding for myself.

They literally affirmed the Catholic (aka the original) interpretation of the Papacy (so the role of Peter), I’m PROUD and HAPPY that the show shows literally how it HAS TO BE INTERPRETED. Glory to God, yall this (and other parts in the Chosen) shows the TRUTH of the Catholic Church. “And the gates of hell shall now prevent on it” (Jesus said that, not me. Got it antixclericals and protestants?)

I'm a Filipino Roman Catholic and I watch The Chosen and I greatly appreciate the show. ❤🙏🏽

I'm crying with Joy, Christ is king!!

I also think the papacy is affirmed biblically when Jesus asks Peter 3 times if he loves him. And tells him to take care of and feed his sheep. The church.

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Thinking on Jesus of Nazareth tv miniseries from 1977, it re-aired in the 1980s. Growing up as Protestant...never thought of Peter as an unimportant disciple when seeing that movie. Feel the resistance in history is to corrupt men in the Chair of Peter. If you use that to deny miracles & visions of godly Roman Catholics, you need to live in mystery more..and not say you know the good ones' hearts...when you do not. As Catholic I have more rest to who God is and His plans and Life ...future Presence with Creation. God supports what He wants and hides from others- those that don't love Him where He calls. I believe God is over all regions and souls with other degrees of illumination ...and not judge them as finished, fixed to who they are -cause you are called to be a servant to the Holy Spirit.

Alternative Title, "Did the Chosen accurately portray reality?"

Well, if they followed the gospel readings, then yes!

Idk if they’ve done John 6, but I can’t wait to see how they handle that

This channel will become famous one day,and I can say that I was subscriber when this channel was around 2k.

I remember in the original trailer for the season seeing a clip from this scene and it gave me the impression it was trying to say this rock was the the living faith so interesting that the final cut appeared more affirming this way.

Great breakdown

I heard that in the episode when Jesus says to Peter he will build His church on him that they had Jesus step back and say it like he was talking to all the apostles and not just Peter which would be biblically wrong and very Anti-Catholic?

I'm surprised I haven't come across your Channel before. Good video. I haven't been keeping up with this show, and I'm glad to see they handled this sense so well.

Each one of the disciples represents people, the church. No one is orthodox or Catholic or other. This was conforming local churches regional. The more we get in to the denomitional wars the more we lose the message. What i took the message from the disciples is that they were making it about rank and not about God, jesus.

Another KZfaqr pointed out that the Chosen has not given us the "Bread of Life" discourse and the Transfiguration. They may bring them in as "flashbacks" or something like that.

I always felt they did a good job of staying in the Mere Christianity lane. Which does mean you won't make a ton of people excited, but also not disappoint. But I don't think they are pro-Catholic, though they flirt with it. During the Nativity they showed BVM having some discomfort during birth, which is against Catholic tradition. Though they did in ep 1 of this season focus rather heavily on the Annunciation. An event many Protestants treat as an afterthought.

Its not even hard. His name was Simon and in that moment Christ changed his name to Petras/ Kephas. Its not pebble its rock. Pride and mental gymnastics. Protestants deny Peter was the first bishop of Rome and whether he even died in Rome. Anything they can do to deny the Papacy and Authority. The authority that was willed by God.

Well I find it encouraging that they said you are Peter, rock and not Peter, pebble. 😂

The actor who plays Jesus is , Maronite Catholic actually;)

Some were mad on the KZfaq for that episode but not as bad as I thought

Liked, subscribed, will be sharing with my pals. Coming Home is really something in this tech age........I was away for 35 years , and now, my goodness. what resources, I'm just sorry it took me this long to find this channel. 😇😇😇

Peter is the leader, it is very clear in the Bible. Paul went to Peter about the circumcision issue and it was Peter who had the vision to settle the matter. Peter has the keys to the kingdom and the early church has written that Peter knew he was to be replaced when he dies. I don't understand how people can say the Catholic Church made it up when the early church fathers confirmed this papacy centuries before the establishment of the Roman Catholic Church. How can people literally deny it when the evidence is right there? To me, that is satan having his hold on the person. Those people seriously need Jesus

They did good but the keys of heaven and rest of the dialouges they made it was for everyone. I was so mad for that. It's so obvious one knows the bible truly will know, Peter is the Rock. My dear protestants who don't believe in Papacy. Just forget what your denominations preach you for a minute. Just have the Holy Bible in your mind and answer to these questions: Psalm 23 says, The Lord is ____ (shepherd) John 10 says, I am the ___ (good shepherd); I lay down my life for the ___ (sheep) In Mathew 16, Jesus gave Simon a new name, he called him Kephas which literally means Rock in Aramaic. Rock here doesn't mean a physical element but a firm foundation. (Explained in Mathew 7:25) He gave Peter the keys of kingdom of heaven and said, "whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”(indications in Isaiah 22). (2) Who's the shepherd - Lord is; Now who is a Shepherd?- a person whose job is to look after sheep. Now moving on to John 21, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Feed my lambs", “Take care of my sheep" "Feed my sheep". Jesus rests the responsibility of being a Shepherd on the earth To Peter(since Jesus ascended To heaven). Thus Peter becomes the successor, a person or thing that comes after somebody/something else and takes his/her/its place. And then when Peter died of Crucifixion his responsibility goes to another one, and then to another. Thus the succession of being the shepherd happend for 2000 years. And Pope is a Latin word for Papa, Father. Fathers usually leads the family. On earth pope is being the leader of the catholic church. He leads us to Lord Jesus. And do not twist my words, God Is one and he's in three forms. Saint Peter was a mere human, who glorified God by his martyrdom. But he was elevated by the Christ and the father. So he's a saint. Deep down in ur heart you know this is the truth. But false interpretations of your churches will make it difficult for the brain to accept this simple thing.

I had the same thought. They went out of the way to point out that Jesus named him "rock" and "upon this rock I will build my church." Jesus explicitly gives Peter authority over His other followers in this scene.

It is what I have been waiting for. I am joyful about it I also love the Chosen. 🎉

I alwaus imagined that scene without passersby behind them😂

I agree with you! I believe that our Lord Jesus Christ chose Saint Peter as our first Pope of our Catholic Church Amen⭐️❤️‍🔥🕊✝️🙏

Entered for the title, stayed for the Tshirt⭐⭐⭐

I suppose there wouldn’t be too much controversy because even anglicans can affirm that he was the first among equals, just not papal infallibility.

Peter, ROCK! I love it

Yeah definitely confirming Catholic beliefs 🙏🏻❤️

Many people don't know that Jesus actually gives the name Peter to Simon in their first encounter (John 1:42). So, the rock upon which Christ builds his Church is not only Peter's confession, but the person of Peter himself.

This is the equivalent of our English teacher describing "blue" meant something profound when in fact the author just wanted to say "blue" on the text... 🤣

Also when he asks Peter if he loves him, 2-3 times, to which Peter is instructed to guide the flock! Is that coming up in a later episode? 😊

The real interesting part will be post Resurrection if in Acts Peter will be shown as a first among bishops. Hopefully they do but i also understand they have to be careful and neutral

I take it as Jesus was personally addressing Simon-Peter when he gave him the title of the rock. It was given person to person. It never has came off to me as something that was supposed to be passed down. On Simon-Peter he did build his church and clearly it was built on a rock because it has lasted for this long, with so many people not supporting the pope.

Yes, I do and since it’s the truth, that’s the way it should be portrayed.

That's exactly what I thought when I saw that scene and episode.

Nobody tell the Catholics that after 2 chapters, all the Apostles got the office of the Keys. It has always been a "first among equals" situation. Peter was the first among equals and then Rome became the first among equals.

The Chosen ended up not including the immediate following sentences in the same conversation were Jesus also calls Peter Satan. I think the show disciples would've been a lot less jealous if that part wasn't omitted.

It is just as open for interpretation as the verse itself.

I like the shirt. I think the show skirted the Catholic question.

My thoughts are that most Christians affirm Peter was first among the apostles, Papal Supremacy & Peter being first among the Apostles aren't identical concepts at all, the Eastern Church would contend that Peter was First among the Apostles, which functioned as First Among Equals, some will point to James the Brother of Jesus seeming to have primacy over Peter in theological disagreements, others will point out that Peter was Bishop of Rome & Antioch, meaning both branches in schism have claim to the Bishopric of Saint Simon Peter, others would say that the testimony Peter gave was the Rock Jesus built his church upon, some would claim the literal rock they were standing on which was known for idols & had a place literally known as the Gates of Hell there was the rock, some say Peter was the pebble and the rock was a boulder/foundation stone...I think The Chosen intentionally left it open to every single one of those interpretations, and I personally believe we're all right about it in some weird way...of course I tend to think most serious traditional branches, especially with Apostolic Succession are right about this whole Christianity thing & wrong about it in their own special ways.

Even Protestant scholars generally agree Peter had some kind of leadership role in the early Church, based on the evidence in Acts etc. They try to claim it was a lesser authority than the Pope.

As a Anglican I understand apostolic succession. A disciple had students who had students who had students and each is a successor. Peter is the rock and he had successor and his priesthood lineage was the most important of the apostles. So I tend to see this as affirming the proto papacy. That said there's two lineages. The Coptic and Catholic popes who descend from different students of Peter's teachings. I'm Anglican myself because I think kings over popes but I personally respect the papacy position and have no problem if the Anglican, Catholic and Coptic churches reconcile ecumenical unity. Since Copts have a pope and Anglicans high church apostolic tradition, to be honest the Copts and Anglicans can reunited with Catholics as a rite. A English rite and Copts join the Catholic Alexandrian rite. The greatest representation of Christianity is unity so that they (non Christians) may know God's kingdom. As a protestant I defend the reformation as it happened but now think the controversies have ended. (Communally I'll stay Anglican but ecumenically would be happy if the King and Pope reunited in religion) So unlike most Protestants I'm not hostile towards Catholicism. Or yes the Pope. So why am I not Catholic? Because nothing is achieved if I just joined. It's better if the whole Anglican institution converted and the 80 million of this denomination enter communion with the Catholic Church as a institution and pray for such reconciliation.

I've seen every episode, and this scene is now in my top three favorites. 👍

Lovely jersey!! Much love from Argentina

Love the jersey. VAMOS 🙌

Where did you get this clip, I can’t seem to find the new series

Loved it! 😁

Well, though I firmly believe that Matthew's passage definitely asserts the Primacy of Peter, I also know that there are others who feel it refers to Jesus as 'the Rock' and Peter as only a lesser rocker. Using the Greek to denote a pebble over the Aramaic that implies a boulder. Neither side of the issue should take offense as to how it was done in "The Chosen". The same, IMO, can be said of the institution of the Eucharist, or the Bread of Life narrative of Jn. 6. I'm fairly sure it will not step on anyone's toes, but will use what the Bible says.

I could be completely misremembering, but isn't there a point later in the season where they bring this up again and Jesus species that they are all the foundation of the church? Maybe that was just a KZfaqr's interpretation, but I thought I remembered hearing that in one of the episodes themselves.

look at all his idols.

they did a good job of making it vague

What’s that book in background

Great

On the road walking, Nathaniel says “I’m pretty sure Jesus is the rock on which the church is built.” So they still snuck in a Protestant clincher with a script written line found no where in the Bible.

Hmm, well I agree with you that the scene was "tastefully done" and it left the idea rather ambiguous on purpose (because after all, it's just a widespread show - not specifically intended to teach any particular form of Christianity). However, the problem (at least from a Catholic perspective) is that the scene only includes the verses Matthew 16:17-18, but conveniently left out the following verse which is so important: "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” (Matthew 16:19). It's that same following verse that many Protestants also conveniently forget to cite when they make the same erroneous argument of "the 𝘳𝘰𝘤𝘬 just refers to Peter's statement, not Peter himself" - nope, you can't give "the keys of heaven" to a statement nor the authority to "bind and loose" to a statement (plus of course it is obvious parallel language to the prophecy from Isaiah and references the prophecy in Daniel). There was such potential to introduce some thought-provoking biblical concepts to Protestants, but I guess the show decided to simply avoid any kind of remotely-possible conflict.

Thank you for clearing this up for me. This show is definitely catholic. ✌🏼 deuces

All our questions and doubts are answered in the Scripture of Truth \ Word of God in its original writing and not blurred in traslations!

I didn’t like how giving the keys of the kingdom was not more directly given to Peter in the show during that scene

I love this program and have seen every episode. It is as true to scripture as anything I’ve ever seen. I don’t see any ambiguities in the words of Jesus.

The chosen was always meant to be catholic. Most protestant branches are iconoclast so they wouldn’t be making this show anyway.

Love the Argentina shirt!!!!!! Vamos Argentina!!!!

In a later episode in this season, Jesus clarified with the disciples that what he meant is that all of them are leaders who will build his church. So therefore, I don’t believe they were trying to confirm the papacy.

It’s about time people laid 0:53 down their lies to embrace the seat of authority and interpretation that predated the Church and started with the chair of Moses. Moses (who not only wrote the first books of the Bible) but it says he took his seat and judged the people.

No it did not affirm the claims of the papacy. Far from it.

Channel: Patristic Pillars Channel: Classical Christian Thought Book: Rev. S. Herbert Scott, ‘The Eastern Churches and the Papacy’ Book: Rev. Dr. Christiaan Kappes, B.A William Albrecht, ‘The Complete Guide to the Papacy in the Holy Bible’

They present it as a point of inquiry -as a question. This is most likely a projection of our modern separation rather than the actual events. It is clear from scripture that the one speaking out (someone times for good , and other times in error) most of the time. Peter seems like Jesus' best friend, and although the apostles do squabble about who is first at some time during the Gospels, it is clear that Peter is a leader.

That last scene definitely depicts us Christian. Some doesnt affirm Papacy like Orthodox and Protestant. So yeah, that scene for me is very interesting.

Sidebar, Messi gonna repeat? Who’s winning the euro?

Peter is first among equals.

What's funny is that they are trying hard to show that Peter is not actually THE ROCK but A STONE by adding a lot of words that are nowhere in the Bible to the show. As an example in the show one disciple told his mother that Jesus changed Simon's name to Peter and it means something like a corner stone of a house.

Rooting for Argentina this summer in the Copa too btw, would love to see Messi win it again