Should I do an Eda X Raine video? Also thoughts on the finale?

Luz really pulled a “I won’t kill you, but that doesn’t mean I have to save you”. Batman would be proud

One thing that was kinda funny is how the gay ship was explicit and established early, while the straight ship (Huntlow) was something you kind of have to read between the lines for right until the end, and even then they don't get to come out and say "we're a thing." It's funny because it's typically the other way around.

Disney gave SVTFOE four whole seasons, and yet TOH managed to put together a MUCH more conclusive finale with only three specials. Let that sink in.

When the collector hugged belos I straight up said “sweetie sweetie no A for effort but no “

Considering how the rain acted and Luz having the Titan's power, I actually think she summoned the boiling rain herself to finally defeat Belos.

When the Collector learned about kindness and forgiveness and immediately tried to apply the lesson to Belos, I actually stood up and started shouting "No!" at my tv. What cracked me up the most was when he cried and said "What is this stuff?" It reminded me of Booster in Super Mario RPG. I also really liked the death of Belos. Of course he tried to con them with the "You saved me from the curse, which is the real reason I did all those horrible things" tactic, and none of them were buying it.

The only thing I was a little frustrated about in the finale was we got like, zero closure about why Philip was seeing Caleb, or if he was ever really there. I would’ve loved to see some ghostly revenge from Caleb and his girlfriend.

I love how Odalia's just absent from the final scene

How this show left it's characters is just perfect, just like the end of Amphibia. I'm really going to miss this series, and this story driven era of Disney Channel, but I'm so glad that it happened, and that I got to experience it. Thank you so much Dana, and everyone else involved. I'm glad she can move on from Disney and live her life now.

The entire Luz's "death" scene had me in tears. Especially when the Collector finally realized what death really means to mortals, and that he couldn't fix her when she "broke". You know the part where he asks "What is this stuff? Why won't it stop?" The first time seeing this, I thought he was talking about Belos' corruption blight, but I now I feel more like he was talking about his tears, as it's the first time he ever felt grief. Another example of the incredible writing on this show.

I just love how undignified his final death was. No cool lines, no going out in a fire of glory against the heroes strongest attack, no laughing at the face of death, no feelings of accomplishment, no any "In the end I actually won from a certain point of view afterall" BS and no sympathy. Just him getting stomped like the cocroach that he is.

Something I find interesting is that when the Collector stops listening to what King is saying, Belos almost instantly distracts him by mentioning Luz is back. This makes me think he did this specifically to stop Collector from listening to the rest of King’s plan. It is still a misunderstanding trope but it is a good way of going about it in my opinion.

I think Luz talking with the titan was not just a final hit home for forgiveness and your not a bad person. It made it clear cut that there is a difference in motive of Belos not actually wanting to save humanity despite his claim and how he's too deep in his own views and refuses to believe that he could be wrong all because he wants to be the hero in his story, while meanwhile Luz actually does want to help people and her questioning herself shows that at the end of the day she doesnt want to 'be the hero', but actually wants to what is right for everyone. Even though that distinction didnt needed to be made, I still felt it was meaningful.

Luz's "death" genuinely caught me off guard. I knew it would be a fake out because it's disney, a kids cartoon and luz's story hadn't resolved. but simultaneously it was so early on in the episode that it felt like they could genuinely subvert the trope and kill luz off. Instead letting the other characters go through the grief and take down belos. Of course luz didn't die so the point is moot but still it had me genuinely freaking out for a hot minute

I think one of the core themes of Owl House is letting people find their own conclusions rather than imposing them, even when they are probably right. Luz might have been willing to save Belos. The problem was, even when he lost, he still tried to play himself as the vitcim and avoid accountability. Luz knew she couldnt help him until he was willing to help himself.

I love that Belos isn’t hyped up to be this “all powerful being” like a lot of villains are (ie steven universe and gravity falls) and is just a more realistic dude who just knew how to manipulate vulnerable people. It makes it way more complex and enjoyable and relatable 😅

"Hunter getting a cut to look less like his father/uncle/brother" made me laugh so hard

I've said it before, but Bill Cipher went around yelling that he'd turn kids into corpses but Amphibia and the Owl House actually accomplished it 😆

The Collecter is an interesting antagonist, due to exactly how he described “toys being broken.” They don’t just say it is no big deal, but there is no consequences, and they can just be repaired easily. The Collector would have found out that it is not true if they ever actually killed anyone. Now of course there is the draining spell, although considering that Bellos the master manipulator is the one who got the spell from them, that is along the lines into being tricked, believing it to be effectively a harmless prank. Luz’s death mattered to The Collecter, but if they even killed anyone while doing the game they would still try to repair them and find it unsuccessful. The Collector isn’t misguided or malicious, but had a really bad assumption that was never tested.

My only real gripes with this finale: A. Luz should've gotten to keep her Titan transformation (ala Eda's Harpy form) B. Amity should've gotten to SEE Luz's Titan transformation XD

I gota say- I am happy to hear your take on Belos considering just how much of the fandom seemed to completely miss the mark on that one- fandom has created for themselves this idea of Belos as a complexed villain when tbh he was as straightforward as it gets and I am glad the show didn't waste any time repeating all we could just infer from the background information. That and watching the gang stomp on a racist goo puddle was very satisfying.

0:02 Had us in the first half, not gonna lie

The ending felt rushed, but that’s understandable considering the circumstances. And the fact that they delivered a really good ending while under such a time constraint is commendable. That being said, it’s truly heartbreaking that we never got more. Season 2 felt super rushed compared to season 1, I assume because the creators knew the show was getting canned and they had to finish it up. We should’ve had so many seasons. Every encounter with Belos feels like a season finale to me (Young Blood, Old Souls; Hollow Mind; King’s Tide; For the Future; Watching and Dreaming) Additionally, there are episodes of seasons 2 and 3 that feel like they could be full arcs/seasons in and of themselves, and some episodes that fit together into arcs if rearranged. The stuff about King’s identity sticks out to me in this regard. It would’ve been really interesting to have Luz, Lilith, Eda, Hooty, and King go on an adventure to find out about King’s past. Instead it had to be chopped up and sprinkled over the season. There was so much potential to this series and Disney squandered it. They squandered it so terribly.

What I absolutely loved was the moment just before Luz' fakout death. When she told the Collector he did good offering kindness to Belos, but her face said she knew it was naive. Which makes her guilt right after all the more irritating bc it was such a good show of her maturity for her to recognize that opening yourself up to ppl is not bad while having learned to recognize someone who doesn't deserve that, and not blaming the person who trusted the other, AND THEN SHE BACKTRACKS IMMEDIATELY. I know healing is not linear but there wasn't enough time to go back and forth and explore this contradiction ahhh ;-;

9:10 it wasn't specifically the Light Glyph. It was Titan Magic. Not sure whether the team had realized Titan Magic interferes with Collector Magic yet, though.

It's so sad that it has to end so soon.

2:28 I maintain that the alleged "fun-killing" summer camp deserved to be explored, seeing how the children who went there maintain their quirks and hobbies (seeing how Vee's group are introduced). It probably wasn't as bad as Luz feared it would be and maybe she would have made a few friends

Was it rushed? Yes. A little predictable? Yes. But did the creators do great with what they had? DEFINITELY!!! I think I can say from all the fandom that we are all so grateful and thankful for this show that pushed the boundaries of what could be shown on Disney. This show has changed so many peoples lives for the better, and we all feel so angry for some of the higher ups at Disney for cutting it short. However, despite the cancellation, we will never forget these characters and world. All of us will always be weirdos who always stick together!

What really hit me in the Finally was the implications about Caleb and his clones. That despite their upbringing Caleb was able to overcome his prejudice and that felt like a betrayal to Philip who couldn't. That this trait followed into each and every one of Calebs clones which is why Belos kept killing them. But despite being unable to accept his brother he still needed him which is why he kept cloning them. It might have been love, or codependency, but he couldnt let Caleb go. Hunter wasnt vital to Belos's plan, he didnt even play a part. But Belos emotionally needed Caleb

I agree with most of this video, but the whole luz blaming herself plotpoint is not bad, because its so very real to me. Im currently a teen, and i can relate to her so much. Ive never traveled to any magical worlds and unintentionally given a genocidal maniac power, but blaming myself for things that arent my fault is something that i do a lot, so seeing a character i love and relate to also going through that, its nice.

As angsty as Luz’s nightmare is she is KILLING it in that emperor drip tho Edit: also maybe Amity figured out the light glyph broke them out bc it was the glyph Belos needed to find the Collector? Idk just a thought

This finale really did justice for the series, even if it was cutted short. I love how Hunter found his family too with Darius and Eberwolf. Please do an Eda and Raine video.

In defence of the Collector not really understanding death after thousands of years of existence, they first just existed with his siblings (the archivists), who are also godlike beings. Then he hung out with Titans (who live for a very long time). Then the archivists started taking the titans away out of fear, and then the collector got locked up in the in-between. Basically, they wouldn’t have had a chance to really experience and understand death regardless of how old they actually are. It wasn’t until Luz died and he couldn’t fix it that he understood

I LOVED that moment where Eda, Raine, and King STOMPED ON BELOS and Luz just let it happen. IT WAS SOOOO SATISFYING!!! Also PLEASE make a video of Eda and Raine! I love them both!❤

A note on your comment about how long the Collector has been around and still unknowledgable: I honestly don't think the Collector has really interacted with mortals before. I kind of got the impression their only experience with mortals was the other Archivists' hoarding them like dragons, never actually interacting with them beyond a child with toys. The Archivists only think in terms of preserving when it comes to other species. His only connections were with other long-lived powerful beings---the Titans and the other Archivists. Then King's parent sealed him away, likely for eons. So yes, the Collector has technically been around for ages, long before life on the Boiling Isles....but their actual life experience, particularly with non-godlikes, is in all likelihood slim to none.

I think it would've been more impactful and heartbreaking is that during Luz's nightmare, Amity had said something about regretting ever falling in love with her. Which could probably imply that Luz had some kind of insecurity and thought that Amity deserved better than a partner who endangered her home and separated her from her family.

13:44 "And King" HE IS KING AND QUEEN, BEST OF BOTH THINGS

For me the third episode was somewhat predictable but only because it was the best way (IMO) they could have ended it. I knew Collector would become a good guy through someone actually connecting and reasoning with him (and likely through some form of martyrdom) for example but that's because it would have been really disappointing if it didn't happen that way. The only thing that really bugged me is that Collector just kind of left after finally being accepted and having real friends for probably the first time in his life (something he wanted more than anything). I think it would have made a lot more sense if he had ended living at the Owl House with King, Eda, Hootie and Lilith. People in the Boiling Isles would be terrified of him at first but there is lots of terrifying things there so I think people there would adapt and get over it pretty quick.

This is what Steven Universe wanted to be, but could not given their own series of circumstances. Still Steven Universe walked so the Owl House could fly. This was another amazing ending to a wonderful Disney Channel animated series. I will miss it , but I have enjoyed the ride from start to finish.

the episodes can also say: "watching and dreaming, for the future, thanks to them" like she is saying to us she is trying to get more of this universe, but she cant because of Disney

While I really liked it, you can definitely see the signs of the reduced season. I don't know, I feel like some things needed a bit more time to really sink in. For example, in my opinion Belos' death was kind of underwhelming. I feel like they should have drawn it out just a bit more and have him get increasingly desperate for a bit longer, just really have him flail. And personally I feel like the stomping didn't quite fit, I don't know I feel like if they had just looked at him and turned their back on him to show that he's not even worth it would have been even more poetic and just really shatter what was left of his God complex. All that said, I just want to repeat that I still thought it was great.

The owl house has done so much for so many people and it is truly a work of art. I will miss it to bits but will always have the experiences and memories of growing and watching the series. Thank you owl crew, for giving us the best damn ending to the series you could!

For what it could do, it was great. If they had more time, they would have been greater! But for a show that was forced to rush things, I'd say yes, The Owl House stuck the landing.

I think, had I been younger I would've 100% believed that they killed Luz for real.

Never forgive, never forget what the Rat did to the Owl

King's little grunts during the stomp was so adorable and satisfying

I wouldn't say im obsessed with this show, and I can look at it and say that this was rushed, but it's so hard for me not to love this show to pieces. Even in the first season, when it really wasn't great, i still look back at it with a smile. The team really did the best they could. Even with the stupid mouse constantly riding them, they told their story and wrapped it up with a nice golden bow. I love this show, I'll never forget the happy memories it gave me.

When I was a kid we had Avatar: The Last Airbender. I'm glad this generation of kids got to grow up with The Owl House. It definitely feels like it'll go down as a classic like Avatar did.

Willow’s greatest power is being immune to yo mama jokes

The “Byye” at the end gets me every stinking time. Somehow knowing all the crap the show went through, the representation, clearly seeing in the final episodes all the episode we could have had, and how they still managed to make it work just wrecks me in the best ways.

The ending made me sob like a baby. Especially when they all said bye to the audience. It was the worker's way of saying goodbye to the fans and thanks for joining the journey. I will never forget this amazing show and the raw emotion it makes me feel in both the messages present throughout the show, the dark themes, and of course, the neurodivergent and LGBT+ representation a 13 year old me would've killed to have. I also really love how Hunter's iconic bye hasn't left since season 2 episode 1.

man disney did this show so fucking dirty

The owl house was there for me in a really dark time in my life and watching it over the years and watching the finale in a better i environment and feeling like I grew with the show, had me crying the whole episode. Such a great series that will always stick with me.

The Owl House will always have a special place in my heart. And *adds to list* also hammers another nail in the SvTFoE coffin that screamed “YOU HAD TIME TO MAKE IT GOOD WHAT THE F#CK”

I hope Dana Terrence comes out with comics in spite of Disney so that she can give us more of the content that was missing prior to the shows end. It woulda been so cool to see casual Noceda + adoptees in the human realm, while also getting a view of the resistance in the Demon Realm.

I think it's a good choice that the collector goes back to the stars because he "had a lot of growing up to do" since it'd be kinda weird if he just stays like nothing happened.

Tbh... I'm not sure Amity knew the light spell would work. They were removed before Luz used it, and later on when Amity does it, the first thing she does is act surprised that it actually worked. I think at the time she was just like, "well there's nothing to lose so might as well try it cause it just makes logical sense" but she wasn't 100% certain it'd work. Some of it was also probably her trying to give Luz some kind of hope or reassurance that Luz could find a way out of the dream land and rescue everyone. But that's just me Edit: and for the collector.. He wasn't really on the isles for that long. He got trapped for a long time after watching his siblings kidnap and kill his only friends. He was an immature kid when it happened, and his coping mechanism was to use escapism. That's where the line, "I know it's just pretend. I don't care, I'll pretend as long as I want!" He wants to try and ignore his depression and loneliness, and just be that immature kid who was playing with beings who were on the same level as him and could understand him. As such, he was mentally trapping himself and restricting himself from growing or learning. He has really never come into contact with mortals as King says the Titans were semi-immortal so it's safe to say the Collector's time spent with Titans won't teach him much about your average witch or demon. The first mortal he came into contact with after all that time was a racist old white guy who manipulated him. He has had.. Zero real contact with anyone who could've taught him more about being a mortal. And like.. The collector going back to the stars at the end was actually a nice change. Remember in Steven Universe when the Diamonds spent two eras murdering people and invading planets, just to be forgiven and treated like they never did any of that? Remember how dumb that was?.. Well the Collector is that but done right. He plunged the entire island into an Apocalypse and literally almost killed everyone with the draining spell. He didn't leave permanently, but he did finally overcome his hurdle and realized he had more growing up to do and left. He did the thing that few TV shows ever do, and that's accept that you can't change overnight. Idk about you, but I wouldn't exactly forgive and forget that easily and just let him stay either.

1:14 "emotional baggage, aka Hunter"

My favorite part was noticing that there are so many more blue trees in the red forests of the boiling isles, those being Palistrum Wood trees 🥲

One of my favorite things the owl house did was when Belos was dying he never said you'll be as bad as me, he said you'll be as bad as those witches. He never gave up and frankly what a doucebag. Also I have a flapjack tattoo!

For how it was handled it was rushed better in three episodes then the 4 Seasons SVTFOE had.

what really ticks me off, is that they showed us what the first half of season 3 could've been if they didn't try to cancel it. You can actually guess what they episodes could've been: Episodes 1&2: Luz and friends try to heal from the trauma of what happened to them on the day of unity. Episodes 2-5: Luz and Camilla try to teach Luz's friends about earth (this would also be when they introduced the new outfits, Vee's new form and caleb's new hairdo, etc.) Episodes 5-8: The focus shifts to show them trying to find a way back to the Boiling Isles (we would've seen a bit of they in the first 5 episodes, but it wouldn't be the main focus) Episodes 9&10: 2 part mid season finale, Flapjack found the clue to find the Titan's blood, and the fight against Belos (basically the ending of the first special)

The collector can just dip for 2 generations and then hangout with king again with most of the baggage gone

For The Future was pretty meh, I'll give you that (though maybe the leak played a part in that), but the other two parts are incredible, and a testament to the Owl Crew's skill, as they managed to end their story in a satisfying way, even if it wasn't what anybody wanted. Thanks To Them is the second best episode of the show imo right after Knock Knock Knockin', and Watching & Dreaming closes most of the show in a pretty bow. Of course there are things that we never got to see, but I will never place the blame on Dana Terrace and her team. We all know who truly deserves to burn.

The real sad part is that apparently what we saw was not a compressed third season into three episodes, but a whole new plotline created right after the crew knew they got cut... I red on reddit and such that the whole Collector subplot and the trip to Earth was created as an alternative way to allow Dana to explore what she wanted to tackle without feeling twenty episodes crammed into one, which I'd say make sense since from half season 2 they (although seamlessly I have to say) hit the gas and slowly change the final focus of the show (It was not confirmed but my money are on what the Day of Unity were supposed to do); so it's even more upsetting, not only Disney rob us of possible Bad Girl Coven on Earth shenanigans episodes but of whole plots, episodes and interactions that we never even saw on the show... still, maximun respect for them to select what to show, what to tell through enviromental storytelling (expecting no less from an Hollow Knight player) and what to cut and coming on top with almost all Ws despite DIsney's best efforts to cancel the show and then play dumb around it... and for having the ultimate morale of its story be "murder is ok"

It was so perfect! I think they did a wonderful job with what they had and I really got that warm feeling at the very end. Cried twice during the ending. So glad to see this video because I don't have friends to dialogue with about it.

"If this video gets a million views, I'll consider it" Time to put this on repeat.

Gus learning what drip is was indeed the best part of season 3 for me

What I also love is that in Belos's final moments, Luz mirrors the exact response he got from his ghostly hallucination of his brother. No scolding. No reprimands. No words. Just a glare full of disappointment and contempt.

Finally someone who points out the “Thanks For Watching” thing

ALMOST Made you cry?? Bro I was BALLING

Overall, the finale was a 7/10 for me. But it really deserved to be a 10/10 with how good this show was.

I honestly think the house finale was one of the best finales I have ever watched, I absolutely love references to previous episodes in shows and watching and dreaming and so many references I don’t think I could keep track. The fact that the finale battle felt more like a closing than a climax just felt like a real ending, and Belos’s death was the best Villian death other. There wasn’t a cringy speech about goodness and all that, it wasn’t the over dramatic second long death of falling all of a sudden and dying that Disney seems to like to do. Luz’s cold stare as Belos desperately tried to manipulate her one last time just hit home. Belos just wasn’t worth it, he was a bad person taht I could only describe with swears and Luz was straight up like “screw you” with just her face.

Oh my titan! I just knowticed in the epilog hunter doesn't have bags under his eyes anymore!

14:13 I thought that was jarring too but then I realized the collector needs some type of consequence since he can’t live normally on the isles due to the most of the population fearing him still.

Im happy with the way it ended, and that it didn't end like the usual isekai cartoons where the mc never goes back to other dimension im happy luz can still go back to the boiling isle whenever she wants to c:

13:05 You should make that happen~

So true and real thanks for the spoiler in thumbnail And honestly this only got shown to me because the spoiler accomplished what u wanted it too which is engagement, because I currently don’t consume owlhouse content as the season is not gonna be out for months in my country.

13:41 "and king" killed me and i dont know why😂

I really liked how they redeemed the Collector and explicitly called out Belos in the same show. A lot of media does one or the other. But few do both and so clearly explain the difference.

Dana Terrace confirmed that the show was canceled for its lack of rerun value. Its strong focus on the overall story meant you kind of had to watch every episode in chronological order, or some things would confuse you. They had a hard time airing random episodes on TV. Out of the entire series, only *one* episode was purely filler: the body-swap episode.

Shoutout to me for watching this episode on Easter and sobbing my damn heart out several times.

i forgot how much i love this show

Ive been waiting for this video since the last episode dropped

"A witch loses her true way, seek the key fear the lock, watching and dreaming for the future, thanks to them." Thank you Owl House, you were truly special... BYYYEEEEEE!!!

“That almost made me cry, _almost_ .” Mhm sure bud

I watched episode 1 when it came out and seeing the finaly made me cry so much seeing these characters grow from day 1 to now just hits hard when u realise it's gone

Would love to see a Raine and eda video, those two are my all time favorite ship in any show

My only issue with the timeskip designs: Luz shoulda had big long hair and pulled her college major registration form out of it

"If I'd been younger I'd have been obsessed," Yep, felt that!

“Almost” Bruh i was fucking sobbing that entire last 15 minutes

BRO I'D DIE FOR A EDA X RAINE VIDEO I'D LOVE IT SO MUCH, IT'D BE SO WHOLESOME

13:50 and king

7:00 “Harry it isn’t how you are alike, it’s how you are not.” -Dumbledore.

I'm literally waiting to get my Flapjack tattoo finished. I chose the same spot Hunter got his. It's so painful because it's my first full-color tattoo, but it's so worth it.

You know what amazed me about this final. This season was far shorter compared to Star Vs final season and yet, ToH NAILED the final episode wonderfully! Like Dana pulled an all nighter and gotten an A+! Like seriously, being cancelled and having the rushed the story is no longer a valid reason for why the final suck so bad! If ToH landed a great ending despite beign rush, why not Star Vs?? Just to be clear, this is a rhetorical question (a question to not give an answered for) as I know there are many factors to why Star Vs fail as Sarcastic Chorus already made a video on why Star Vs final suck years ago!

There's just something about the flapjack tattoo (and the treatment of him in general) that keeps hitting harder the more it's brought up. The kids had no reason to wear it like that when it's mainly just something that meant the world to Hunter so it must indicate how much Hunter (and thus his losses) mean to them as well. That hits a lot knowing that my 'projection character' in trauma got so much of what I wish I had, down to losing an animal that meant so much to him and not having it be handwaved away as "It's just an animal, bro". I feel like I'm a sneeze away from trauma dumping so I'll just leave it at having actually unironically considered getting the flapjack tattoo for deeply symbolic reasons. Thinking about it more now I should design and tattoo my own version of 'the flapjack tattoo'. I still miss her.

WE NEED A SPIN-OFF!!! Perhaps the Archivists come back, and King, with his new powers, can power up Luz to her Titan form again, Amity can simp, maybe we can get an “I love you” between them, and hopefully more representation since Disney sees how popular The Owl House was. We can learn more about Caleb and Evelyn, and if they’re connected to the Clawthornes, and some more Belos backstory, and maybe more about Vee and her backstory, maybe see if she got with Masha- so many cool stuff!

THANK YOU FOR NOTICING THE TATTOOS!!! I noticed them on my first watch and was freaking out that no one was talking about it. Its honestly the cutest thing ever and almost made me cry. Owlhouse always nails the attention to detail❤❤❤❤