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As the saying goes: "God is everywhere, but the Portuguese were there first!"

while travelling in Australia, I saw on a Melbourne-based tv news report (back in January 1997) that during an archeological excavation in Geelong (Victoria) Portuguese coins back from the 16th century have been found. so, this sounds very reasonable to me though, that Portuguese explorers indeed discovered Australia long before the Dutch expeditions arrived on this continent.

It could be discovered by Portuguese once they discovered Papua New Guinea and Timor leste in 1512 and it’s very close to Australia

At school in the early nineties I was told that Australia was found by the Portuguese before the Dutch. I had no idea it was a controversial idea!

I read a lot of old undodomented portuguese nautical records for fun, (undocumented as in not studied enough) and we portuguese found a lot of shit that we simply didnt care about. We wouldnt land or settle everything we found, let alone document it on maps. Sometimes we'd only write "day x, spotted land in the horizon, we could see people, we didnt land, we kept going". I am of the belief we were the first ones to see australia, brazil, argentina, canada and the US.

Yes I think Portugese were first to rediscover it. Didn't they find a Portugese coin in western Australia? Didn't know about the key in Geelong or the shipwreck off Warrnambool. Good video.

It only makes sense that the Portuguese would have stumbled upon Australia in the decades they sailed these waters.

This was interesting and informative. In 1984 I remember watching a documentary based on Kenneth McIntyre's book. Then five years later we did learn about Portugal's and Spain's ocean voyages in my high school English/ Humanities class. We wrote assignments about whether Portuguese sailors were the first Europeans to find and map Australia. They were discursive/ analytical essays. We were given research material. The information mentioned the Mahogany Ship. Another fact is that Australian wattle trees grow in Portugal. It is possible that sailors may have taken plant samples, just as the Botanist Joseph Banks did when he sailed with Captain James Cook.

Portugal paved the way for other colonial powers.

There was a nautical Portuguese compass found in the area of that ship wreck that coincides with the time line of the Portuguese map

I don't understand these comments. Yes, Aboriginals discovered Australia first. And the uploader states this in the video. But the video was about the European discovery of the continent and it covers the controversial theory about Portuguese discovering Australia before the Dutch. This doesn't invalidate the Aboriginals.

Europeans discovered for the world. Japan believed the world was built just by Japan, India and China, until the Portuguese arrived and show the Japanese how much bigger the world was.

Nesse mesmo período estavam no Brasil, Angola, Moçambique, Guiné, India, Moluccas , Japão, China, Sumatra... Os caras mostraram o mundo para a Europa. Entre 1500 e 1600 apenas Portugal sabia onde estava indo no mar. Ainda estavam e guerra com os Marroquinos e Otomanos.

One story I heard was that Frederick de Houtman as he was heading to the area were the area call Abrolhos Islands, came across so Portuguese who shouted out to them "abra os olhos" so that is how the name Abrolhos Islands. To add a bit of coincidence to that "abra os olhos" is "open your eyes" in Portuguese, warning Houtman of the low lying islands and reefs ahead

I believe that a 3 cannon marker was found on the NW coast of Western Australia,. These markers were associated with the Portuguese explorers as markers meaning" I have been here". They may be in a collection of artefacts held by the WA Government authorities.

The problem was that in 19th century, Napolionic invasions stole entire libraries and important historic documents, so soon the Portuguese maps started to appear with French names.

interesting! I can't help but wonder if on that atlas with the theorized kangaroo on it if the originals makers weren't mistaking new guinea for the "4th continent" given that new guinea is one of the largest islands in the world and also has kangaroos. In fact I'd argue the tree kangaroos in new guinea look more like the illustration than Australian kangaroos

Gr8 vids and your italian/Portuguese pronunciation is funny....quite possible that the Portuguese were there b4 the Dutch considering they were first to Japan and they didn't share new discoveries with others.

Thanks Mate... you are a Legend!

Great videos. Great channel! In my humble opinion the word discovered is very very arrogant. That said to be one of the ones to set foot on the lands no one even knew was there must have been more than thrilling. Jmo. Thanks for all of your efforts and bringing this history before us.

This is great stuff. Reminds me of how Italian cartographers technically knew about Markland/Labrador... It is always interesting to investigate the archaic knowledges stored like time capsules in the different cartographic schools/traditions of Venice, Dieppe, and Antwerp.

A Portuguese iron helmet was discovered in the sand at Petone at the head of Wellington Harbour in the late 19th century

Great videos! Can you make a video about how maps are created, especially for places without previous maps available? Also, I’ve watched some of your other videos and it seems Europeans used a lot of maps. Did any native America tribes have maps? Or Aztec/Myans? Sincerely, An interested geography hobbyist

Also the Napoleonic invasion took all maps they saw in Potugal, thats why they are appearing in Paris.

Interesting topic

4:07 that's queensland. Big lump at the top is probably Hinchinbrook island, connected by deltas so looks like the rest of the island to a quick sketch map. The second small lump before the "bottom" curves right is probably cairns/innisfail area. Mountains are the great dividing range, goes down to nsw. Dunno what horses are doing there though. How do i know this? I've lived there for 13 years.

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The portuguese when discover new lands and to prove and take possecion of the same land, they would always leave “um padrão” , that is a scuture colum in stone whith names and dates. And a few years ago i saw a documentary done by some Australians wo discover one of this “padrão” in north/ west Australia, and they afirmed that it was de portuguese wo discover Australia. Timor was a portuguese colony such was Macau, for a people wo was saling around this waters for such a long time its a very big probability for them to arrive there before any other ocidental culture.

Tsarsar map decypher is a quarter turn. If a windmill or any wind movable feature is on map, including wave directions, then you turn map 1/4 turn in that direction. There are other determiners of opposite direction of this relative to the side of equator and some maps even have seasonal codes like if there is snow etc means winter and such and such. Love. Maps. The hieroglyphs that you can burn when the enemy approaches lol

In Portuguese the NH sounds like the GN in Italian (as in GNOCCHI). So SALDANHA sounds like an Italian would pronounce SALDAGNA. Great video, thanks for sharing.

Tordesilhas treaty was a rather serious one as avoided war between two catolic neibour countries. Regardeless of other countries, Spain was to head westbound, and Portugal eastbound. To the Church, their main goal was to spread the catolic faith among distant and non-believer lands. So they did, but history shows a clear diference in approach, the spaniards were more 'conquistadors' and the portuguese more traders. Australia was on the spanish half, so the portuguese remained silent about it as expected. Many years before they did exactly the same when of.the "discovery" of America. They knew about a continent that way, they were there before Columbus, but they kept secret about it. These matters where of utmost importance than...

You are opening new areas of interesting history to me. I have also been following info about the expansion of early humans around the world and this is the first I have head about a Preaboriginal population of Australia and would like to hear more about them. If that's not for you, maybe another channel. Thanks for engaging me!

By chance I just discovered your pt1 video and was looking forward pt2 only to find it premiers in a half hours 😆 I’ve subbed and I await your video

The Portuguese may have discovered Australia first, but it makes little difference. Like the Norse discovery of North America it was not advertised and neither Portuguese nor the Norse took advantage of their discovery.

Its a delcate subject . In 1522 1523 One of 3 ships returned from a secret voyage around the big unknow continent. Where are the 2 missing ships ? The Deadwater Ship Wreck and the moghany ship wreck ?

Yes , in this Time Holland was colony of Spain and Portugal they used tall people of Holland for War and boat , marine !

Quite an interesting subject, however, you didn't mention the Treaty of Tordisalla with Spain owning the eastern side of Jave La Grande would be in conflict with Portugal claiming and colonising this newly discovered secret land.

did Portuguese discover Australia? Javanese on the Portuguese map : what? we first

Again a very interesting video about maps! Thanks! And this brings us to the word 'discovery'. On early maps we can already see some coastline of the continent later called Australia. We should also notice how difficult it was to pass Java on the south. To get east, ships had to cross between Java and Sumatra, and through the archipelago to the Molukkens and Timor, where trade could be made. This Strait was extremely important to control access to the east. Looking at a modern map everyone would say: Why not go around those little islands on your way to China? But those ships simply couldn't do it, wrong winds, wrong current, riffs, and even explorers wanted to survive their journey. Up to 1480 ships only followed the coastlines to go where they had to go, crossing big oceans was impossible. They wrote down what they saw on the coast to identify where they were, strange shaped islands, mountains, and they counted the rivers that end up in the sea. The Portuguese that went around Africa for the first time followed the coast until they got to Arabia, that they knew from land trade and continued until they reached India, the country they were looking for. They did not discover India, because everyone knew it was there, but found out how to get there without dealing with Arabs, who made more and more money from transporting goods between India and Europe. So they were not looking for 'new lands' but for routes how to go to areas without paying to much for only transport. From India they went on to Indonesia, Indo China, China and Japan. Of course the routes were kept secret, because they put a lot of effort in it to get there and now could pick up trade to another level. Even Columbus who dared to leave the coastlines and go across an ocean, wanted to find a route to the Indies and China. The areas he explored were only an obstacle to get to where he wanted to go. He saw some trade possibilities but kept on going west to end up in the east. Looking for a passage. Only later he realized he 'discovered' a big continent never heard of before in Europe. The age of discovery had begun. So describing coastlines were not considered to be discoveries, only as definition of how to get somewhere. And if there were no trade possibilities on those coasts, they were of no interest, only as markings. So in the short time from 1480 to 1620 ships changed, navigation changed, all continent were mapped (outlines), and the world map was created. It must have been a mind blowing time, a revolution in knowledge. Remarkable was that Spain and Portugal devided the entire world between them, one half for you, the other for me. Of course the other European countries didn't care about this, and started claiming other countries they had 'discovered' without any respect for those who lived there for eternity already. So it's good to say Australians discovered Australia twenty thousand years ago.

Pretty sure the only thing Ozzie's think the Dutch discovered in Oz was the oven..

6:03 the comments called a camel a kangaroo?! the bag is clearly drawn to be a bag not a pouch of the animal..

Great video as always..... I was wondering when you were gonna post again😂

Nice video 👍🏻

G'day from Warrnambool 🤙🏻

We still dont know 100% today, how our ancestors built the ships. Secrecy was extremely important. Many "found" places were not publicized to the public. It would take years to tell the people. First they would take people to live in the found lands and then, many years later, they would officially tell that they had found new lands. In 1500, the Portuguese population was 1 million. If you think that half were women and they couldn't protect the country, work, go to war or go in the ships, you have 500 thousand men. If half of that are old people and kids, you have 250 thousand men to do all the things I said. 250 thousand men to build and hold an empire that went from Brazil to Japan. Its no easy task. So secrecy was vital.

I think "discovered" describes more the shipping routes rather than the destination. Columbus was under the impression he discovered a western shipping lane from Europe to the Spice Islands in the East Indies. Hence the name "West Indies" for the Caribbean...

Hmm... Nuka antara means Nusantara... Yups... Greater Sunda Islands and Lesser Sunda Islands combine... Some versions said that Sahul (Papua and Australia) also imcluded...

Yes

So it one thing to say that it is not Australia in the Dieppe maps. A natural follow on question is "then what is it?"

In school I was never taught the Netherlands discovered Australia, only Tasmania and New Zealand. Ergo, I suppose the dutch attribute the discovery of Australia to a different country. E.g. Portugal.

Portugal 🇵🇹 discovered Australia, I have no doubt about that...

Dirk Hartog landed in WA first!

why does part 1 have a different name ? - It really hard to find this way

Not only the 1755 earthquake destroyed precious knowledge, but most of all the 3 invasions of Napoleon came with the objective of stealing all Portuguese knowledge, that they could take. Napoleon was always defeated in Portugal, but the Portuguese maps are still appearing in France and even today we can find the Lisbon Science Cabinet in Paris...

Portugal

Portugese where first

Portuguese and spaniards first set foot by the spanish crown.

Personally I think Portuguese and Dutch were close to same at a point.

Many hrod and Herculean legends come from Ozraelia. Try saying a ton of mysterious words with an Aussie bite. It was the real Wild West or south after the polar shift I guess. Great land to pitch tents and ride animals. And a perfectly huge target to aim a canoe at. Macedon the Scots maccabees alchono Algonquin Qin tartaria etc

I'm pretty sure that when Elon Musk's ships arrive on Mars, they'll discover a small hut selling portuguese peri-peri chicken...

I'm an Aboriginal or original man of Australia I saw a documentary film it's say's Evidence of ancient Australians in South America,well to me my grandfather told me our ancestors travel around the world,and I bet America Indians were black like us,

That's not a Kangaroo, it's a Llama for the Americas.

I've seen Portuguese maps from 1541

- this video does not present the the map that proves that the Portuguese discovered and cartographed Australia.... - the map in question is from the middle of the 16th century and presents the eastern cost of Australia... the video does a great work in twisting of history indeed

They were the first to travel

You've done it again. I never knew the Portuguese came here.

Heróis do Mar, nobre povo!! Deus está em todo o lado, mas os portugueses estiveram lá primeiro...

No

É mais que óbvio

Os portugueses foram os maiores navegadores e descobridores do planeta, Deus está em todo lado, mas os portugueses chegaram primeiro!🧠💪

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Portuguese influences in Australia? Can't think of a single one 🤣🤣

Portugal caralho!

I think "discover" should imply "document". If not then ofcourse the aboriginals did the discovery.

I'm Dutch, so i like to believe our ancestors discovered Australia.

Nonsense of course. Everyone knows James Cook discovered Australia. All the Brits learn that at school!

yes, they did. but it' takes a long time to rewrite the history books. you have very big egos that push back against the evidence.

The whole notion of “land discovery” is such a eurocentric idea. The uploader could have avoided all comments with some thoughtful editing “did the portugese ‘visit/know of/land on’ before the dutch. Also its very possible that their maps were derived/copied from older maps transported by the the ottomans etc.

Egyptians were visiting First Nation Aboriginal People in Australia as early as 500BC.

You should do a video with whats happening with ukraine and russia 😑

We found it case closed 🇳🇱

I think the indigenous found it first?

No Dutchy did

Não Foram os Portugueses Foram os Tartarianos .

*While I do think the Portuguese have discovered Australia, they did a bad job with documenting it. I'm pretty sure to say that Marco Polo would've been the first man there. The Dutch were just good in documenting things (I have been baptised in the same town Mercator, a famous Belgian cartographer) so they were simply the first to show the whole world they've done it first. It's like the discovery of the North Pole too, there are theories and there are documented facts. You need to take everything with a grain of salt.*

As always, “discover” since it was already inhabited…

In the years of 1500- 1600, if the portuguese found a piece of hospitable land, with potable water, and food supplies, they would have IMMEDIATELY settled a post, port or settlement there as a ship can only stay so many weeks without supplies. Every 500 miles along the west and south african coasts did the portuguese establish a small settlement, fort or factory.....and then a group of portuguese ships would be sailing along the IMMENSE coast of australia from Timor WITHOUT making ONE settlement ?...especially the South-East of Australia is very fertile and inviting. New ZEalands islands even more (apart from the maoris). If Portuguese sailors did find Australia...and thus sailed on to "adelaide" or "Melbourne"..then there would be definite items found on site...and..reports back home(or in Timor). .. If however, a portuguese fleet of 3 ships would "only" have seen the australian coast...and then sunk...well..that doesnt count as a proper discovery. .. and the marsupial indeed can be found up in Sulawesi...or a gifted kangaroo could have been seen at a court or a rich sultan in Java or sumatra (in 1500s..these were wealthy and important rulers ).

I am Dutch..... we didn't discovered it, nor did the Portugese, we left proof as first... the aboriginals discovered it!

I always thought that the Aborigines discovered Australia. Is it possible somebody rewrote this history also... like the rest of the world?! 🤔

The Dutch discovered Australia period.

Aboriginals did

None of these people discover anything.... There were people living there !!! Is like I go to my neighbors yard and discover it... sounds ridiculous...