Did the Universe Come From Nothing? John Lennox Explores.

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4 ай бұрын

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@flolou8496
@flolou8496 4 ай бұрын
This is Dr Lennox at his best, because of him I feel more comfortable, and you should as well, seeing through the self delusional tendency's in modern non thestic worldview's,
@StudentDad-mc3pu
@StudentDad-mc3pu 4 ай бұрын
The self-delusion is all Lennox's I'm afraid.
@DavidFlockhart
@DavidFlockhart 4 ай бұрын
“Feeling comfortable” about what someone says is a far cry from knowing that he speaks the truth.
@nothinghere1996
@nothinghere1996 4 ай бұрын
@@StudentDad-mc3pu You do not believe in God? Want to debate?
@StudentDad-mc3pu
@StudentDad-mc3pu 4 ай бұрын
@@nothinghere1996 I'm happy to concede that an intelligence may have made the universe. However, what is clear is that it is NOT the God of Genesis - Genesis is a myth and is roundly contradicted by science. Lennox knows this, but continues to pedal his nonsense while pretending that everything is fine with his particular version of 'God'.
@ron88303
@ron88303 4 ай бұрын
Or, perhaps theistic is the delusional approach?
@Peter-wl3tm
@Peter-wl3tm 4 ай бұрын
Dr. Lennox explained that so elegantly
@reh5847
@reh5847 3 ай бұрын
Love listening, and trying to keep up with this man. Thanking God for such men as this.
@grassrootsflshp
@grassrootsflshp 3 ай бұрын
One of the best Christian intellectual minds of our time! Thank God for raising up a Dr. Lennox in the midst of the modern moral, spiritual, and intellectual bankruptcy (eg. neodarwinists).
@gingerspeidel-ys6et
@gingerspeidel-ys6et 4 ай бұрын
All you have to do is look around. The creations are so wonderful. Only a God to make the human eye and life.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
That's a logical fallacy called an argument from incredulity. You lose!
@Ottawa411
@Ottawa411 2 ай бұрын
Richard Dawkins eloquently explained how the human eye evolved. Also, the human eye is flawed. If a person designed it, they would get a failing grade.
@ErikFender1
@ErikFender1 4 ай бұрын
Love and admire John Lennox......
@4219jose
@4219jose 4 ай бұрын
Mr Lennox is a brilliant mind.....from outside!!
@abelgovender4115
@abelgovender4115 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant mind! Dr.Lennox always shines!
@dmfour
@dmfour 4 ай бұрын
I have come to these very conclusions in my life and it has made me a little angry with those who have insisted on pushing belief in God as a sign of mental instability all the while spouting these ideas that they push as facts to a bunch of lazy thinking people who in turn spout them as facts when in fact these ideas are the ones that are worthy of being regarded as signs of mental instability themselves.
@richardtruckner2203
@richardtruckner2203 4 ай бұрын
Science simply cannot explain “existence from non-existence”. Science still requires a cause for each physical reaction (action/reaction) and if you take their logic to its conclusion, they either end up running out of all possible causes or a beginning cause needed to pre-exist, which they would then call impossible. They are then faced with the reality that something eternal needs to be in the equation or existence is not possible. We know only God is eternal and if they admit that…. Suddenly, they become accountable to God…. I pray God will open the eyes of their understanding….. or they are lost through their ignorance !
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
Keep taking the meds.
@dmfour
@dmfour 4 ай бұрын
@@byteme9718 Great retort. I'm stunned by you rapier wit and the overwhelming intellect of your reply.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
@@dmfour Be quiet, you don't want those men to put you in a straitjacket and take you back to the asylum. Do you believe in elves and genies too?
@richardtruckner2203
@richardtruckner2203 3 ай бұрын
Take heart, these so-called “mental stability” experts haven’t thought this through and that includes many of the esteemed scientists. In its simplest form, we are looking at the possibility of existence from non-existence. Unfortunately, when you see posts from brilliant men like John Lenox, you always have an army of atheists descending like a plague of locusts to mock and discourage believers…. the absolute truth is they are tragically wrong and haven’t thought the issues through to their conclusions. Science must always seeking a cause as an explanation to explain any phenomena or action. The key to their folly is that, in order to explain existence there would need to be a cause that predated existence and of course, a cause cannot exist in nonexistence. In order for a cause to exist, sufficient enough to explain existence from nonexistence, there logically needs to be something eternal in the mix and the eternal entity must be sufficient enough to provide a cause for existence. That eternal piece of the puzzle is God Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth…. I rest my case !
@JohnWilliams-iw6oq
@JohnWilliams-iw6oq 4 ай бұрын
"and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep" has always (to me) meant the face of infinity before creation. I'm 73 years young and still can't begin to comprehend nothing or infinity.
@guillermoenki1069
@guillermoenki1069 4 ай бұрын
That spirit of god moving could be a spaceship flying over the water. The word spirit was not originally used in that sentence. The word " ruach" was. And ruach is a physical object.
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 4 ай бұрын
No one can comprehend "nothing," since it has never been experienced by anyone. Every time we say there is "nothing" here, in reality there is a lot of stuff, just invisible or very small. And given our still quite primitive brains, we still perceive distances and time spans much the same as our cave or savanna ancestors, how far we can walk in a dy or 3, how long it takes for the sun to cross the sky. It takes all sorts of comparisons to familiar things to help us get even a vague inkling of some things Astronomical distances for example: the sun, just 8+ light/minutes from earth, is so far that a jet airliner at full speed would take 17 years to reach it. We can express the numbers, but we simply cannot grasp what they really mean. I am 75 years young and this stuff fascinates me immensely!
@TrustJesusToday
@TrustJesusToday 4 ай бұрын
The LORD spoke it into existence. I did not have to be there. He was there. That's good enough.
@ron88303
@ron88303 4 ай бұрын
Uh, okay.
@1193bobmcc
@1193bobmcc 4 ай бұрын
It's reasoning like that… That has people of all faiths following nonsensical religions. Just feed them stupidity and they'll regurgitate it.
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 4 ай бұрын
Well, good thing you are not on my jury; Pierce did it, I was not there but I am sure it was he who did it. No need for evidence, guilty!
@markkozlowski3674
@markkozlowski3674 4 ай бұрын
Which Lord? Yahweh? Zeus? Quetzacoatl? Etc., etc, etc.
@innerlockbreaker3916
@innerlockbreaker3916 4 ай бұрын
Twuz. The God and Father of Jesus. In the "beginning" was the Word and, the Word was with God​, and the Word was God. All things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made. He was already there in the "beginning". You ARE right Sir; it's only by faith we understand that the world's (the entire spectrum, micro and macro) were 'framed' by the Word (Jesus) of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. @markkozlowski3674
@maskofsorrow
@maskofsorrow 4 ай бұрын
Well done John.
@randypacchioli2933
@randypacchioli2933 4 ай бұрын
Amen John !! 👍✝️
@abduazirhi2678
@abduazirhi2678 4 ай бұрын
“Nonsense remains nonsense, even when talked by world-famous scientists.” Sir John Lennox
@marksnow7569
@marksnow7569 4 ай бұрын
However, scientists will attempt to gather new data and make their talk less nonsensical. PS: When was Professor John Lennox knighted?
@user-hy2du8fg6l
@user-hy2du8fg6l 4 ай бұрын
AMEN Enoch (PROPHET)
@jake5811
@jake5811 4 ай бұрын
It is only nonsense to someone who lacks the intellectual firepower to understand.
@ron88303
@ron88303 4 ай бұрын
@@marksnow7569 Although he has a distinguished academic career, I'm not aware that he's been knighted.
@ron88303
@ron88303 4 ай бұрын
@@jake5811 It doesn't take intelligence to understand his reasoning. But it does take faith to agree with his conclusions.
@user-mk9qy4yd5t
@user-mk9qy4yd5t 4 ай бұрын
Properties and laws are true aspects of existing things. They don't create things.
@tomgreene1843
@tomgreene1843 4 ай бұрын
That is a difficult point to get across...Darwin explains development in some way but not origins.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
Physics creates new things all the time.
@sierragrey7910
@sierragrey7910 4 ай бұрын
@@byteme9718 from what?
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
@@sierragrey7910 The physics that dictates our universe was determined when expansion began. For this reason physics we yet know of can probe back beyond a certain point so a new field needs to be developed. The HONEST answer is simply that we don't know. The DISHONEST answer to to claim god which means theists always lie.
@wprandall2452
@wprandall2452 4 ай бұрын
That's because they are singular ideas. God is a complete system of concepts switched from infinity to real space-time, and then commanded to create things.
@genghisthegreat2034
@genghisthegreat2034 4 ай бұрын
He has a valid point. A scientists " nothing " is not the same as a philosophers " nothing ". Is it possible to have a universe with nothing in it ? No thing, no fields ? There can't be time in a universe incapable of change, nor temperature in one, without baryons to move. Nor radiation, without fields. By that much abused philishave, the Razor of Occam, a universe that couldn't physically communicate it's existence, couldn't be presumed to exist.
@donthomas4793
@donthomas4793 4 ай бұрын
A scientist nothing is not the same as a philosophers nothing. I like that. Do you mind if I hold onto that for a little little bit?
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 4 ай бұрын
​@@donthomas4793 It's basic knowledge.
@gknight4719
@gknight4719 4 ай бұрын
@@vladtheemailer3223Not to a believer, their imaginary god forbids it! "CRITICAL THINKING "that is.
@markoshun
@markoshun 4 ай бұрын
You say, “Is it possible to have a universe with nothing in it?” This makes no sense to me. I’m not a physicist either, but I do know that when they talk about the creation of the the universe, they are talking about the whole thing, including ‘the stuff’. And when they talk about the beginning of time in this universe, they are referring to our local space time as far back as they can go, what was ‘before’, we don’t know. Krause’s title was just the book equivalent of clickbait.
@genghisthegreat2034
@genghisthegreat2034 4 ай бұрын
@@gknight4719 that's not true. The believers in the clip, and in the thread, have contributed critical thinking. You've merely contributed the adjective.
@ronbusby3335
@ronbusby3335 4 ай бұрын
“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands.-Hebrews 1:10
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
Actually that was physics. You may have heard of it.
@ronbusby3335
@ronbusby3335 4 ай бұрын
@@byteme9718 your 100% wrong about that my friend.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
@@ronbusby3335 Then you'll have no problem proving your claim will you? Lennox has failed to show evidence for any of his childish claims throughout his apologetic career but feel free to knock yourself out trying.
@carbonbasedunit3422
@carbonbasedunit3422 4 ай бұрын
Lennox at his best. How do you argue with that?
@1193bobmcc
@1193bobmcc 4 ай бұрын
Brother, you're allowing yourself to be convinced by hearing one side of the argument. His assertions are childishly refuted by the likes of Matt Dillahunty and others. Look them up.
@user-ch4ex3yy4l
@user-ch4ex3yy4l 4 ай бұрын
@@1193bobmcc It is you who are allowing yourself to be convinced by hearing one side of the argument. Lennox and many others refute Matt Dillahunty and others. A 7 year old can uhderstand this stuff. Why can't you?
@avishevin3353
@avishevin3353 4 ай бұрын
@@user-ch4ex3yy4l A 7 year old does not have the knowledge and experience in critical thinking to debunk a charlatan. The question is: why do _you_ still think like a 7 year old?
@juanpelaez5435
@juanpelaez5435 3 ай бұрын
He made me think I could combine my faith and my studies of science. We need more scientist like him.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 3 ай бұрын
He rejects science. In all relevant fields he's scientifically illiterate.
@zeektm1762
@zeektm1762 3 ай бұрын
@@byteme9718He has a doctorate in both Science (Cardiff) and Philosophy (Oxford). You may disagree with his conclusions, but to call him illiterate is demonstrably false. What do you have to show your literacy?
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 3 ай бұрын
@@zeektm1762Exactly what field of science? There's actually more than just one.
@kevinedwards7079
@kevinedwards7079 4 ай бұрын
This is a man of God
@gknight4719
@gknight4719 4 ай бұрын
Kevin, could you give me a definition of what "absolute nothing" is? please, because I do not have a clue.
@gknight4719
@gknight4719 4 ай бұрын
I hope god is smarter than John! he can add up numbers, but "logic," not so sure.
@dulls8475
@dulls8475 4 ай бұрын
@@gknight4719 Zero without the zeros.
@alfresco8442
@alfresco8442 4 ай бұрын
​@@gknight4719 Lennox and other theists always dodge that question. If you could define absolute nothing, then you would automatically imbue it with the properties necessary to define it. If it has properties, then it can't be absolutely nothing.
@johnpro2847
@johnpro2847 4 ай бұрын
maybe..but it gives him wrong scientific reasoning trying to shoehorn his catholic faith into the science lab
@funshine817
@funshine817 4 ай бұрын
The universe came out of God's mind. God's imagination. And God can pack it all up any time he wants. Praise God!
@ebenlaubscher4153
@ebenlaubscher4153 3 ай бұрын
No !
@Mambo72
@Mambo72 4 ай бұрын
God made the universe and we should praise him for doing so 🙏🙏
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua 4 ай бұрын
Hallelujah 🙏
@123456stronzo
@123456stronzo 4 ай бұрын
He sure made a mess for most of the wirld
@matswessling6600
@matswessling6600 4 ай бұрын
how do you know that?
@colinmatts
@colinmatts 4 ай бұрын
How do you know God made the universe?
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua 4 ай бұрын
GodSoLoved.Yeshua 0 seconds ago IN the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. You can know him🥳✝️ Jesus is God in the flesh. He took upon himself your sin and rose again on the 3rd day as the historical documents say. 🥳✝️ All glory to God.
@larryyoderlarryyoder353
@larryyoderlarryyoder353 4 ай бұрын
I have nothing in my hand,maybe it will become a whole universe one day !
@abelincoln.2064
@abelincoln.2064 4 ай бұрын
God has nothing in His hand. maybe it will become a whole universe one day
@derekdurst2146
@derekdurst2146 4 ай бұрын
Back when you were in high school, assuming you ever actually went to high school, and a teacher called on you to answer a question which you did not know the answer to, do you think you could just make up an answer and get away with that? That's what the Bible does.
@wilmathomas2673
@wilmathomas2673 4 ай бұрын
I or any of us are God. Because things are impossible for us doesn’t mean such a Power doesn’t exist . I am not a evangelical
@derekdurst2146
@derekdurst2146 4 ай бұрын
@@wilmathomas2673 Throughout history there have been literally thousands of gods. Of those many gods, which are the real ones? Which ones are your personal favorites? Do you believe in all of them? If you had happened to have been born in India, or China, or Iraq, or Turkey what "God" would you worship?
@aking4130
@aking4130 4 ай бұрын
So do Christians believe God came from nothing? Seems like they’re just shifting the mystery of the origin of the universe because they still believe something (God) can exist without a creator.
@annelappalainen6193
@annelappalainen6193 3 ай бұрын
Dawkings was on tv last night ! So glad of Dr Lennox.
@powerhouse884
@powerhouse884 4 ай бұрын
“GOD is not physical but is not nothing” This has always been my stand on GOD but we have a problem with people personifying the figure of God. It creates all sorts of issues mainly the fact that it lowers god to our own level and hence to our own flaws.
@AndrewsArt78
@AndrewsArt78 4 ай бұрын
I've had that problem for years and it's mainly why I was agnostic for awhile. But when we let that go it gives us a better understanding of God.
@ImxxFuZe
@ImxxFuZe 4 ай бұрын
Thankfully for us. God has revealed Himself in Jesus!
@TheTruthKiwi
@TheTruthKiwi 4 ай бұрын
​@@ImxxFuZeHow exactly do you know that any supernatural claims made in the bible are true?
@ImxxFuZe
@ImxxFuZe 4 ай бұрын
There's strong evidence for the central claim of Christianity (Jesus being God). Every other supernatural claim follows logically once that evidence for the central claim is concluded as True. As to whether you believe in the central claim or not is entirely up to you.@@TheTruthKiwi
@tarp-grommet
@tarp-grommet 4 ай бұрын
Remember "made in his image"? If we don't personify God, then we don't get original sin and thus no stick to beat people into submission.
@paulanderson6860
@paulanderson6860 4 ай бұрын
Just a thought, where did all the plants, grass , trees etc come from. We are told all creatures came from a single organism and then evolved into different species. I can't recall anything about the plants etc.
@richardgregory3684
@richardgregory3684 4 ай бұрын
All living things came from one common ancestor. Plants included.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
You were clearly home schooled. How sad.
@lesley7321
@lesley7321 4 ай бұрын
Try reading Genesis for yourself …day 3 …before making silly comments
@seanvogel8067
@seanvogel8067 4 ай бұрын
@@richardgregory3684, if you want to believe you evolved from a rock, that’s your business.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
@@seanvogel8067 You're suggesting someone refer to a fairy tale for guidance and calling them silly? 😂
@mojesus680
@mojesus680 4 ай бұрын
Everything comes from something ⛷️
@aking4130
@aking4130 4 ай бұрын
Even God?
@brianrichards3119
@brianrichards3119 3 ай бұрын
What did God come from?
@mojesus680
@mojesus680 3 ай бұрын
@@brianrichards3119 *Mans Mouth*🙌
@JenE3377
@JenE3377 2 ай бұрын
Nobody mentions the Hedron collider. What happened, what did it find and how much spent?
@willyh.r.1216
@willyh.r.1216 4 ай бұрын
We hate nonsense, okay. But, it doesn't mean we love speculation.
@markkozlowski3674
@markkozlowski3674 4 ай бұрын
Define "we".
@francisterloo9148
@francisterloo9148 4 ай бұрын
In the quantum realm, something really can emerge from nothing. In theory, the Schwinger effect states that in the presence of strong enough electric fields, (charged) particles and their antiparticle counterparts will be ripped from the quantum vacuum, empty space itself, to become real.
@amcclure1978
@amcclure1978 3 ай бұрын
“In the presence of strong electric fields”…sounds like something to me
@davidschneider6306
@davidschneider6306 4 ай бұрын
We really have no effing idea what life is all about and we never will so relax and make the best of the time you have.
@PaoloGasparini-ux2kp
@PaoloGasparini-ux2kp 4 ай бұрын
A recently deceased Italian philosopher, E. Severino, judges nihilistic the doctrine of creation because it refers to nothingness (creatio ex nihilo), while according to him, nothingness does not exist. It is true that outside of being, nothing exists. But being is not only eternal and necessary; therefore, it is worth noting that outside of eternal and immutable being, there exists contingent, mutable, and temporal being. Severino has the concept of ipsum Esse, and with this, we can say that he has the correct concept of the essence of God. However, then, by identifying being as being, with ipsum Esse, he loses sight of the fact that contingent being is created by necessary being. He does not realize that producing being from nothingness is the proper act of ipsum Esse and that the concept of creating as creatio ex nihilo is not contradictory at all; it does not involve the confusion of being with non-being, but it is the passage from possible being to actual being. Nothingness is non-being, but it exists as an entity of reason: it is thought and expressed with the term "nothing," on which we all agree, a term that everyone understands what I mean, a notion of very easy comprehension, so much so that even children understand it. But the concept of creation is not accepted because it reminds us of that Christian God who abandoned himself to assume the god of Parmenides. The comparison between Emanuele Severino and Giacomo Leopardi is interesting. Both stumble upon the problem of the relationship between the necessary and the contingent and therefore on the relationship of being with nothingness. Faced with the problem of becoming, that is, of the contingent, they do not know how to apply the principle of causality and found the contingent, that is, the world, on the existence of the necessary, that is, God. Severino, faced with Leibniz's famous question "why is there something rather than nothing?" would react in two opposite senses. Severino would observe that it is not a matter of asking why being exists since it exists by itself. As for Leopardi, he would say, "what is certain is that nothingness exists." Regarding the entity, which is purely contingent and corruptible, it has no reason for Leopardi; it exists, begins, ends, and that's it. It is neither preceded nor caused by a first, absolute, and necessary being. Because for him only the contingent exists. However, Leibniz's question is not well formulated; the real problem is not "why is there something?" but "why is there contingent being?" Being, as it also embraces the absolute, exists necessarily. Here Parmenides and Severino are right. What needs to be explained, instead, is why the contingent exists, which does not have in itself the reason for its own existence. So while Severino affirms being by excluding the contingent, which seems contradictory and nihilistic to him, Leopardi sees only the contingent suspended in nothingness, which he absolutizes without fearing the contradiction of admitting a contingent without foundation in the necessary. In reality, we must not put ourselves in the place of God, refusing to trust in God, deciding what the truth is, and refusing to humbly conform to the truth of His self and of God. The Catholic Church has the task of adapting, serving as a bridge between these two measures, these two banks (as Wittgenstein would say) between the ideal and the real, between the infinite and the contingent. One cannot have God as Father if one does not have the Church as Mother, said St. Cyprian.
@tonyputman3398
@tonyputman3398 4 ай бұрын
My comment is gone. Sure would be good to know what was unacceptable about it...
@haydenwalton2766
@haydenwalton2766 4 ай бұрын
tony, I wouldn't necessarily think it was censored. I think there have been some gremlins in the system for a month or two
@georgekantstandu4501
@georgekantstandu4501 4 ай бұрын
Quite a few of mine disappeared before they were even posted, clean straight to the point comment ,no answer as to why.
@markkozlowski3674
@markkozlowski3674 4 ай бұрын
Isn't KZfaq a disgrace!?
@tonyputman3398
@tonyputman3398 4 ай бұрын
@@haydenwalton2766 Thanks for your reply. I don't comment often and wasn't aware. Have a blessed day!!
@r.m.5003
@r.m.5003 4 ай бұрын
Since Einstein all physicists believe: Matter is not made of matter, now we have to define what is energy?
@michaelthompson1379
@michaelthompson1379 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@russellreading-xi7fe
@russellreading-xi7fe 3 ай бұрын
We will never know
@agdw12
@agdw12 4 ай бұрын
Perfect ... One can not comprehend God, who is the one who can not be confined by physics laws. Because he keep creating any thing any moment continuously.
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 4 ай бұрын
So, for you, anything out past the limits of your comprehension is....god!
@braapyolefart4865
@braapyolefart4865 4 ай бұрын
That which is asserted without evidence can and will be dismissed without evidence.
@braapyolefart4865
@braapyolefart4865 4 ай бұрын
@@YuelSea-sw2rp that statement is an example of your ignorance towards what atheism means
@richardgregory3684
@richardgregory3684 4 ай бұрын
@@YuelSea-sw2rp theism is not an assertion, it is a lack of one. If atheism is a belief, not collecting stamps is a hobby. LOL
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
@@YuelSea-sw2rpWhat a ridiculous thing to say! Men have invented thousands of gods that you're atheist to, have you proved the non existence of all other than the one you claim? We're all atheist, some of us just believe in one less god. If you claim god, then you have the absolute burden of proof. I have no need to disprove whatever random god you claim any more than I need to disprove unicorns or genies.
@robertcasey966
@robertcasey966 3 ай бұрын
Nothing can do nothing ... prove me wrong!!!! Life always comes from life.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 3 ай бұрын
Prove it!
@robertcasey966
@robertcasey966 3 ай бұрын
@@byteme9718 Nothing can create nothing prove me wrong.
@Ottawa411
@Ottawa411 2 ай бұрын
The energy of the universe was always here. It is much easier to explain it than the existence of a magic sky daddy who speaks everything into existence.
@GSpotter63
@GSpotter63 4 ай бұрын
It is clearly obvious that we cannot see what has caused the universe So for the moment it could be anything including the mind of a much higher intellect.
@ron88303
@ron88303 4 ай бұрын
Or intellects. Why only one God?
@GSpotter63
@GSpotter63 4 ай бұрын
@@ron88303 If God is the ultimate, supreme being and he/it is everywhere how can there be more than one?
@wilhelmvonn9619
@wilhelmvonn9619 4 ай бұрын
​@@GSpotter63 Yes, "IF".
@francisterloo9148
@francisterloo9148 4 ай бұрын
So why is it so difficult to say we don't know and we'll probably never know? Lennox is just using the 'God of the gaps argument embedded in his usual word salad.
@GSpotter63
@GSpotter63 4 ай бұрын
@@francisterloo9148 And you're using the science of the gaps.... Our gods the scientists will figure it out some day.... The good news is that someday we will all die and the facts of the matter will be presented without doubt or we will simply cease to exist making the entire question moot anyway. That which no longer exists can't possibly regret anything.
@batouttahell454
@batouttahell454 4 ай бұрын
A Lot of answers can come from other Life out there!
@roryharvey2727
@roryharvey2727 4 ай бұрын
I LOVE JOHN LENNOX!!
@richardtruckner2203
@richardtruckner2203 4 ай бұрын
Lennox is 100% correct, the argument that “science simply hasn’t evolved sufficiently to explain the possibility a universe created from nothing” cannot possibly stand because it either relies on…. a) it’s possible to create something from nothing without a cause in a physical universe or b) the universe itself is eternal. The question is…. “existence from non-existence”….. from “non-existence to existence” implies cause. The fault with a physical cause is….. you need an ultimate cause and no matter how many times a cause is put forth, each possible cause needs its own cause to the point where you exhaust possible causes because a cause had to pre-exist all other causes in order to bring existence out of non-existence…. So that argument fails. With an eternal universe, (which incidentally has been abandoned by most scientists)😢….. falls flat because matter cannot create matter. So we are left with a number of facts…. First, we exist, otherwise we could not be having this conversation (self evident) and second, something was responsible for existence. It seems, since we eventually, end up running out of all possible causes, there needs to be something eternal in the equation in order to provide a cause…. Yes, Lenox is 100% correct, the cause is found in Genesis 1….. “In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth”
@avishevin3353
@avishevin3353 4 ай бұрын
You ran on for so long you ended up contradicting yourself.
@richardtruckner2203
@richardtruckner2203 4 ай бұрын
@@avishevin3353 what contradiction ?
@avishevin3353
@avishevin3353 4 ай бұрын
@@richardtruckner2203 First you write: _The fault with a physical cause is….. you need an ultimate cause and no matter how many times a cause is put forth, each possible cause needs its own cause..._ Then you write: _Yes, Lenox is 100% correct, the cause is found in Genesis 1..._ These are contradictory because you haven't explained what caused god and how that cause itself was caused, ad infinitum. You will appeal to some nonsense about god not being physical, but that explains nothing. You have made no case for why being a non-physical cause is different. You are essentially answering "because god!" without even proving that god exists. You started with the conclusion you wanted to reach and then constructed an illogical argument that could only be resolved with your predetermined conclusion.
@richardtruckner2203
@richardtruckner2203 4 ай бұрын
@@avishevin3353 There’s no contradiction in any of that, only your view that God is a contradiction. God is both Omniscient and Omnipresent…. He is the “necessary eternal component” that is required to explain the “possibility of existence from non-existence” Your position is not supported by any stretch of logic because science, by its nature can not provide a cause for existence from non-existence unless a possible cause magically pre-existed !
@avishevin3353
@avishevin3353 4 ай бұрын
@@richardtruckner2203 If a cause needs a cause, then god as cause needs a cause. You are doing exactly what I said you would do, which is to resort to special pleading. "God is different because god!" Which is the same as saying "god is different because I said so!" It explains nothing. It is not logical in any way.
@francismcglynn4169
@francismcglynn4169 4 ай бұрын
Oxford Languages definition of 'thing':"an object that one need not, cannot, or does not wish to give a specific name to." No thing! Denying that a thing exists by naming it does not give it existence.
@richardtruckner2203
@richardtruckner2203 4 ай бұрын
Nothing can also be the absence of anything.
@galaxyn3214
@galaxyn3214 4 ай бұрын
2:28 If Dr. Lennox wanted to be facetious, he could have called Peter Akins a neo-Pythagorean and asked him why he was a afraid to eat beans.
@StudentDad-mc3pu
@StudentDad-mc3pu 4 ай бұрын
I love beans.
@Johnshaw111
@Johnshaw111 4 ай бұрын
Well that's that then - if John said it it must be true. He knows everything. No need to question anything anymore. John knows. Just ask John.
@aljordi4223
@aljordi4223 3 ай бұрын
It may be a good idea to line it up with the Holy Scriptures and come to your own conclusion .
@cycleguy1943
@cycleguy1943 4 ай бұрын
IN THE BEGINNING…..GOD CREATED EVERYTHING,AMEN🙏❤️
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
Proof?
@cycleguy1943
@cycleguy1943 4 ай бұрын
@@byteme9718 FAITH is ALL the PROOF ONE NEEDS🙏💯
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
@@cycleguy1943 You've just described delusion.
@cycleguy1943
@cycleguy1943 4 ай бұрын
@@byteme9718 Your beliefs are yours,it’s called Free Will.I don’t judge,in the END ,we’ll both find out the TRUTH..
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
@@cycleguy1943 Yes, my beliefs are mine but unfortunately most are indoctrinated by irresponsible parents and have no choice. Poisoning an innocent, vulnerable new mind with religious nonsense is child abuse. There's not a shred of evidence for any kind of afterlife so no, you wont be finding out anything.
@pecent
@pecent 4 ай бұрын
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing You're going back to nothing What have you lost? Nothing 😉🤭
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
That's why I always look on the bright side of life.
@sefutho
@sefutho 4 ай бұрын
Nonsense is Nonsense even if it comes from a scientist 🤔 I hope everyone heard and understood that 🙏🏾
@GeoCoppens
@GeoCoppens 4 ай бұрын
Lennox is NOT an empirical scientist!
@nigellee9824
@nigellee9824 3 ай бұрын
I couldn’t watch this, after your comment, but we really don’t know, we can’t really comprehend what God is, it’s simply beyond science
@frrankdesilva6504
@frrankdesilva6504 4 ай бұрын
"Thoughts" and The concept of God Usage of the word "Thought" in this post is taken to mean anything that is part of a humans conscious experience. Under this definition a sound heard is a thought as much the thoughts going to solve a mathematical puzzle. Based on the above definition it can be said that all of humanities knowledge consist of "thoughts". For anything to be known by a human it must become a "thought". In the context of such a definition of "thoughts" The set of all "thoughts" would fit the concept of God. If you accept Mathematical Platonism then God would exist The concept of God entails a single entity that has the following properties Wisdom: The set of all thoughts will contain the perfect answer to every possible question Infinitude: The set of all thoughts will have an infinite amount of thoughts Sovereignty: There can be no thought that is not an element of the set of thoughts Omniscience:The set of all thought is all knowing as it contains all thoughts.
@jasonroberts9788
@jasonroberts9788 2 ай бұрын
@4:14 that quote is in the introduction of the book. It is confirmed philosophic drivel 😂
@markh1011
@markh1011 4 ай бұрын
I got halfway in and couldn't take any more. Lennox presents bad arguments confidently with a charming accent.
@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe
@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe 4 ай бұрын
Markh1011 makes dumb comments with confidence and exposes their ignorance. Peace😊
@markh1011
@markh1011 4 ай бұрын
@@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe Lame trolling. Show me a good argument from Lennox then. Go on.
@kaboom9081
@kaboom9081 4 ай бұрын
@@markh1011 Since that video was painful to watch, here's one argument: if evolution is true, if we are nothing but flesh and bones animals created by chance, where does morality come from? WHEN and WHO got together to lay down some law to protect us from each other? If there's no objective truth, whatever atrocities leaders have committed in history is open to subjective opinion. No God = no objective Truth = no moral law = anything goes.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
The northern Irish accent is one of the most offensive ever that's up there with the Liverpool and Birmingham accents. The southern Irish accent however can be charming.
@michaelkoch6863
@michaelkoch6863 3 ай бұрын
Erst einmal muss man theoretisch überprüfen, ob es tatsächlich, so wie es Prof Dr Steven Hawking behauptet hat, abzählbar unendlich viele Parallel Universen gibt. Danach kann man sich dieser Frage zuwenden..
@ronaldkemp3952
@ronaldkemp3952 4 ай бұрын
Can't have gravity without mass and energy.
@WordSalad980
@WordSalad980 4 ай бұрын
Zoom out forever and you’ll get the answer.
@rochford59
@rochford59 4 ай бұрын
Nothing is something being nothing....there has got to be something even if it's nothing🤔❓
@bjornyesterday887
@bjornyesterday887 4 ай бұрын
I don't know. Neither do you.
@nothinghere1996
@nothinghere1996 4 ай бұрын
It began when the lamps were switched on. It will end when they are switched off. You have no way of knowing if what you observe is truly as it appears, or if your reality is rendered in real-time. What you do know is the plank constant for time and space. That is the bit density.
@reticulizeta7351
@reticulizeta7351 4 ай бұрын
people should tell joe rogan to invite him to his podcast
@kaboom9081
@kaboom9081 4 ай бұрын
Questions for atheists: 1) How can the complex human brain be a product of time, chance and matter? 2) What about "thought"? if its a product of evolution, how can we trust our thoughts? 3) What about morality? If its a product of evolution, WHEN and WHO got together to lay down a standard moral law to protect us from each other? 4) If Truth is subjective, why do we all need to obey the courts and police?
@peternagel-er7ly
@peternagel-er7ly 4 ай бұрын
The problem is the concept of a start and an end. This forces the thought process to explain a start. The universe has no start and will have no ending. Maths proves it. There is no absolute low number as we can always subtract 1 from the lowest number.
@timothykarnes7945
@timothykarnes7945 3 ай бұрын
Radio waves opps i was thinking about something else.. vibrations
@NakedSageAstrology
@NakedSageAstrology 4 ай бұрын
What is Reality? Not a Thing, but not nothing, simply No-Thing. What is No-Thing? 🙏 Rorri Maesu says useaMirroR 🙏
@polyvioscharalambous281
@polyvioscharalambous281 4 ай бұрын
NOTHING is a compound word NO-THING = nothing exists ... so here we have the theory that CREATION comes out of NO-THING ..
@tontonbeber4555
@tontonbeber4555 3 ай бұрын
And where does nothing come from ?
@The-Ward
@The-Ward 4 ай бұрын
Scientific mind's faith is science. It is a belief, and it cannot save one soul.
@lukewagner8871
@lukewagner8871 4 ай бұрын
Hebrews 11:3 KJVS Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. 1 Timothy 6:20 KJVS O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
@angusmackaskill3035
@angusmackaskill3035 3 ай бұрын
nobody knows
@colindiplock
@colindiplock 4 ай бұрын
Only God knows. But could you imagine when there was no time or dimension and that two spiritual Identics, non-physical, non-gender, existed in a timeless non -physical state of non-existence? Now back to the question, to what took place so many billions of years back.
@101brydon
@101brydon 4 ай бұрын
Ide like to know if God did create it all which God was it 🙏
@edwardbrown1051
@edwardbrown1051 4 ай бұрын
You cannot use reason to justify faith. They are polar opposites. It is logically impossible to reconcile reason and faith. The concept of faith itself carries a ‘built in’ depreciation of reason; and without this anti-reason element, the concept of faith is rendered meaningless.
@aku7598
@aku7598 3 ай бұрын
When believing that a human can be born without a father.
@douglaidlaw740
@douglaidlaw740 3 ай бұрын
Does it matter? Do something useful. VOTE.
@michaellacy8510
@michaellacy8510 4 ай бұрын
Maybe there’s more to nothing than we think.
@gknight4719
@gknight4719 4 ай бұрын
If nothing is possible, you would have to remove "space" itself. and all forms of energy radiation neutrinos, and all the other things we have no idea of! I think John Lennox can add up numbers, but he has a head full of "god" and logic has left the building.
@dulls8475
@dulls8475 4 ай бұрын
@@gknight4719 He never said there was nothing before. Listen carefully. So tell us all what he said was illogical? Your statement is the closest to nothing I have read.
@elkhuntr2816
@elkhuntr2816 4 ай бұрын
"Maybe there’s more to nothing than we think." Logical nonsense. Nothing is the absence of anything.
@gknight4719
@gknight4719 4 ай бұрын
@@elkhuntr2816 If you could achieve absolutely nothing, would that include the area we call "space" as well, because an area is something surely.
@elkhuntr2816
@elkhuntr2816 4 ай бұрын
@@gknight4719 "If you could achieve absolutely nothing, would that include the area we call "space" as well, because an area is something surely." No. Space is not nothing. Time, space, and matter are what make up the universe. Nothing is the absence of anything. Nothing is not something. The fact that we are trying to define "nothing" should tell you something.
@GLang-kq5lw
@GLang-kq5lw 4 ай бұрын
God's way of creating is to "speak in existence"
@User_at_777
@User_at_777 4 ай бұрын
I get my science from the New Testament. Nothing that is seen came from anything that is visible (Hebrews 11:3) God created the world through Jesus Christ (the preexistent *_invisible_* Word of God - John 1:1-2). Nothing is visible without light (Ephesians 5:13) God said “Let there be light” on the first day of Creation (Genesis 1:3). *_Jesus Christ is the Light of the world_* (John 8:12).
@josephtrusty9737
@josephtrusty9737 4 ай бұрын
It was impossible for the Universe to create itself from nothing. There was an intelligent creative force that created everything.
@markkozlowski3674
@markkozlowski3674 4 ай бұрын
Can you identify that "intelligent, creative force"?
@josephtrusty9737
@josephtrusty9737 4 ай бұрын
@@markkozlowski3674 God
@markkozlowski3674
@markkozlowski3674 4 ай бұрын
@@josephtrusty9737 Can you be anymore specific? Which God?
@josephtrusty9737
@josephtrusty9737 4 ай бұрын
@@markkozlowski3674 There is only one. The creator.
@markkozlowski3674
@markkozlowski3674 4 ай бұрын
@@josephtrusty9737 Does he have a name? Or a gender?
@edwardhanson3664
@edwardhanson3664 3 ай бұрын
Man, himself is finite. His soul may be immortal, but his body isn't, and he knows it. For this reason alone, he projects his own finitude onto the entire universe, because he doesn't understand it, the same way he anthropomorphizes everything else in his world.
@tom-kz9pb
@tom-kz9pb 4 ай бұрын
Postulating "God" does nothing to relieve the mystery, and in fact would make it worse. "God" could not get away without needing a further explanation, any more than subatomic particles. Our universe shows too much incompetence and indifference for "God" to be credible. What then? The origin of the universe is a physics lesson, not a Bible story, but physics is not currently up to the job, and possibly may never be. Science disdains philosophy and speculation, but for the time being, it is really all that we have. Our universe is fantastically crazy, which is maybe a key driver of creation. We are helpless. Our human language and our most basic concepts simply do not provide the tools to understand. What caused time to start? Does a "cause" not require time to already exist, since a "cause" must precede its "effect" in time? If the past were infinite, then what could have caused an infinite series of events to exist? While "cause-and-effect" works fine in everyday life, the concept runs into problems at the limits. We probably have to allow for the possibility of totally "causeless" events. What is the definition of "nothing"? In a reality of total nothingness, there is no such thing as a "definition". There would be no language, no words, or symbols. But to say that "nothing" is "that which has no definition" IS providing a definition. Probably, our reality was spawned by such ridiculous paradox and contradiction. Behind even any explanation in particle physics or quantum mechanics, such considerations still exist. Even the laws of physics require further explanation for their seemingly arbitrary existence.
@vibetech89
@vibetech89 3 ай бұрын
Ultra instinct eternal Shaggy the creator of the universe.
@oscarmudd6579
@oscarmudd6579 4 ай бұрын
Once you latch onto an idea, you milk it out for all it's worth whether you understand what you're doing or not.
@simonjohn9525
@simonjohn9525 Ай бұрын
How did a 'mind' with the intelligence and power to create the universe just happen to exist? I think this is far more difficult to explain than 'matter' either coming into existence or just happening to exist, don't you?
@JosephSmith-ph4xr
@JosephSmith-ph4xr 3 ай бұрын
Shock revelation : The universe had a beginning. Over 3000 years ago, an ancient writer said so. (Gen 1 :1)
@49TheWall
@49TheWall 4 ай бұрын
I can't quite decide whether Lennox looks smug or just happy? He's filled with faith I suppose and it's called faith for a reason
@richardgregory3684
@richardgregory3684 4 ай бұрын
Yes, it;s when emotions replace reason
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 4 ай бұрын
He's filled with pies. I bet wherever he visits not a single one can be found.
@bondjames652
@bondjames652 4 ай бұрын
Does a tree understand it's existence? No. There is nothing without our limited perceptions.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 4 ай бұрын
Our local universe is a contraction of the eternal Cosmos, which always existed. One day John might consider that hypothesis or continue to cling to his belief in a creator god.
@trevhib
@trevhib 4 ай бұрын
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
@donaugustine9748
@donaugustine9748 4 ай бұрын
To all the skeptics that “don’t know”, it’s called FAITH! EVIDENCE of things NOT SEEN. Evidence! Evidence! Evidence!
@colinmatts
@colinmatts 4 ай бұрын
How can you have evidence of a thing you can't see, hear, touch, taste, feel or even measure? Faith is the excuse that's given when there is no evidence
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua 4 ай бұрын
We can taste, hear, see and feel... We don't live in an empty space with no matter or immaterial laws.
@colinmatts
@colinmatts 4 ай бұрын
@@GodSoLoved.Yeshua How do you know God has anything to do with matter or laws?
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua 4 ай бұрын
Matter and laws of nature are evidence of a God.
@colinmatts
@colinmatts 4 ай бұрын
@@GodSoLoved.Yeshua How?
@kevinrosenberg5458
@kevinrosenberg5458 4 ай бұрын
there is no such thing as nothing, the only being that truly exists is G-D, everything emerged from him
@chumpchangechamp3643
@chumpchangechamp3643 4 ай бұрын
If something cannot come from nothing, then you have to say that nothing came from something. Because both states exist.
@GertjanZwiggelaar-mo4tz
@GertjanZwiggelaar-mo4tz 4 ай бұрын
We live in an eternal reality. There is no beginning and no end. It is and has been and will be forever. But, the Grand Universe is not infinite. It is eternal but continues to expand and grow as Creator Sons of the Order of Michael continue to create and earn the sovereignity of the universes they make. The first certificates to enable the creation of our local universe were issued over 900 billion years ago. Read the Urantia Book to get a gist of what is what and Who is Who in the amazing, miraculous reality we are conscious in.
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua
@GodSoLoved.Yeshua 4 ай бұрын
Jesus loves you✝️ Turn to Him❤️ You are loved.
@flolou8496
@flolou8496 4 ай бұрын
The Universe can't be etermal, if it were the sun would have burned out already,
@rishijack6535
@rishijack6535 4 ай бұрын
Yes, it came from "no thing". Rest. That rest has substance. Think about it.
@damianabbate4423
@damianabbate4423 4 ай бұрын
Believers love to put their god in immature places of understanding. It's a favourite tactic to sell a god that can't sell itself, and simultaneously keeps the ignorant, longing masses locked in.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 4 ай бұрын
Nothing can come out of nothing. Einstein's relativity formula would explain how this Universe was created.
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 3 ай бұрын
Which prompts the further question, where did God come from ?
@branimirsalevic5092
@branimirsalevic5092 3 ай бұрын
Universe; the cause of Universe; the cessation of Universe; and the way to the cessation of Universe have all been declared by the Tathāgata** as appearing within the six-foot-long living body with perception and mind. **The Buddha
@carlpatrickragas2159
@carlpatrickragas2159 4 ай бұрын
It is not just the argument of the origin but also the sustainability. How the universe being sustained in such stable state despite of enormous explosions, condensations and expansions. It is only because it is being designed. We can explain things we can see but we cannot definitely explain the origins of every things around the universe.
@anaccount8474
@anaccount8474 4 ай бұрын
So God is keeping it in a stable state despite the explosions that God is creating? Have a day off mate.
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 4 ай бұрын
Stable? Monumental, catastrophic, earth/ star/solar system/galaxy-destroying violence is constantly occurring.
@Guy-xr8lj
@Guy-xr8lj 4 ай бұрын
Since John Lennox doesn't believe in calvanism, maybe he can explain how the universe came into existence without it choosing to accept its creation.
@gerardmoloney433
@gerardmoloney433 4 ай бұрын
Read the Bible and use the brain God gave you.
@tongakhan230
@tongakhan230 4 ай бұрын
Does a washing machine choose to be produced by the manufacturer? The manufacturer decides what to produce. Hope this helps.
@Guy-xr8lj
@Guy-xr8lj 4 ай бұрын
@tongakhan230 exactly why calvanism is true. God doesn't ask before he makes us new creatures.
@eddylloyd7413
@eddylloyd7413 4 ай бұрын
God created everything 🙏.
@georgekantstandu4501
@georgekantstandu4501 4 ай бұрын
But man created the gods, throughout history. to explain phenomena and unanswered question.
@JamshidRowshan
@JamshidRowshan 4 ай бұрын
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