Sylvio killing Adriana still haunts me

This is what David chase wanted people talking about the ending for years lol

Door bell chimes: We get Tony's point of view. (Carmela) Door bell chimes: We get Tony's point of view. (A.J.) Door bell chimes: We get Tony's point of view. (Pitch Black) Dude's dead.

The whole point of the ending is that it doesn’t matter if Tony dies there and then or later, eventually he either goes to prison for a long time because Carlo flipped. Or someone from Phil’s crew gets revenge or he dies in another unrelated incident. Tony doesn’t get a happily ever after because he doesn’t deserve it. The last scenes represent his perspective of his life from that point onwards which is paranoia and eventual terminal darkness. So in hindsight it doesn’t matter if Tony dies then or not, that’s why it cuts to blacks because there is no good ending for a guy like Tony he even told Dr. Melfi himself with something along the lines of “there’s only two endings for a guy like me; either dead or in the can.”

fade to black is perfect everyone is still on the hook who knows

The ending was great.. The show hasn't been on for almost 15 years and people are still talking and getting heated over it. I can't think of another show that has people get so worked up over well past it's run. Also, Tony died... Jason is 100% right.

Can someone please teach Jason how to have a proper discussion?

If you look at the jukebox by Tony, the song Anyway You Want It by Journey is in the dead center of the screen. It's clearly supposed to be an open ended ending. David wants the viewer to draw their own conclusions. Fantastic ending.

Imagine trying to watch the final episode with JD, Jason and Jon yapping away. 😂

Gangsters sit with their backs to the wall, eyes to the front. Jon Hein stands at the counter, death staring the Fry maker.

Bobby says it on the lake. Then it happens. It’s pretty obvious foreshadowing.

Love how pissed off people get over a masterpiece ending. What should really piss you off is when a show is cancelled and you're left with a season finale, not a series finale.

I could talk about and listen to people talk about The Sopranos ending all day long. It is true art. So, so legendary and perfect. IMO, best season finale ever... at least Tony passed with no pain.

Sopranos was made for intelligent viewers. There’s plenty of things you could pick up on by knowing what the characters were feeling without it being clear cut said or spelled out for the viewer. Chase knows people are going to watch more than once. Tony died it doesn’t matter how. If you watch you’d know the mob doesn’t wack wives and kids. It’s taboo

There was NO SPRAYING OF BULLETS Robin

There's no debate.Tony did die.I didn't figure it out until a few yrs ago when I watched the last season again.Tone got merced in front of his fam by the guy in the members only jacket.first ep of the season was called "Member's only" It was a shady ending though.Thought my cable went out.

Tony never sits down at the diner. He sees himself sitting there and what's about to happen. To quote Arthur Bucco "You can see 20 moves down the road. Your mind processes it all at internet speed." That's what the last scene is - Tony processing what's about to happen. Second, the episode entitled "The Test Dream" shows Tony go into a bathroom and look behind the toilet and there's no gun like the Godfather so the final scene is not a tribute to that movie like everyone thinks. As David Chase said, "It's all there".

Of course he did. Anybody who says otherwise didn’t pay enough attention

People always reference the Bacala comment but Bobby saw and heard all of it. He saw the guys coming at him and was completely aware of what was happening while it was happening

i miss freds elephant sound effects when jason talks

Also , every episode ends with music after the screen goes black except for this one. Silence. To me it's so obvious he was killed.

Who is Carlo ;)

He was killed. It not only was foreshadowed heavily but the final scenes were from his POV. The music stopped. Tony was a horrible person, but Jimmy was terrific in making him relatively likable at a level or people wouldn't watch. Showing him shot up, getting killed, blood everywhere, with his family quite possibly also killed alongside him would have been a horrific ending. Meadow walks in and the last thing Tony sees is his daughter. You don't hear the shot, cause Tony didn't either.

They never say “...it goes to black.”

Still being discussed in 2020. Tells you something about the greatness of the series.

Ending was perfect

bobby saying “you probably don’t even hear it when it happens” sil being at the restaurant when gerry torciano gets whacked and not knowing that they’re shooting at first the members only jacket guy going into the bathroom as a godfather nod the members only jacket guy being at tony’s 3’oclock (3 o’clock was a cryptid message that foreshadowed death in an earlier season) there’s too much evidence of tony’s death for people to still be debating it

I agree with Hein. I wish the ending had some closure.

I interpret it this way: It just becomes black and you don't see what happens. So you can personally interpret what you want. But you can't say it's 100% that he or the whole family dies... because we didn't see it. Like proving that there is no god ... you can't prove anything that doesn't exist. It is up to you to prove that he exists.

The members only guy kills Tony and his death is instant, which means he must have been shot in the head. His trip to the bathroom to retrieve the gun is a nod to The Godfather.

The mob usually don't spray bullets. They hit their target at close range and move on. When Tony was whacked, it was over.

Just went and watched the boat scene. He didntvsay anything about fading to black. Jason is wrong

He lived. When the show ended he was alive. Chase the creator said it’s up to the viewer to interpret what happened AfTER but when show ended he was alive.

Tony obviously died. The entire final 5 minutes is Tony then Tony’s POV when the restaurant door opens. Went to black when the door opened with Meadow going through it

Not many varsity athletes in this video.

I thought he died. We see everything on the show through his journey, not always his perspective, but he’s the main character, and it would hurt too much to see his death, but also feel inevitable and like an anticlimax, weirdly, so they just went right up to it, but didn’t show us

It is not surprising that Jon Hein wants to see what’s happening. He has no personality so he it is not surprising he has no imagination. JD and Jason are totally right.

JD going for that Taliban look?

I think a movie should be made next showing life after Tony's death through the eyes of his son

The guy that walked in was wearing an executive jacket which is a hit man jacket

Even if he didn't die there he was a dead man walking. And he had NO crew left. He was done.

I miss James Gandolfini.

Best ending ever.

Tony smothering Christopher is still sick to me.

Worst thing they ever did was put these people on video... there’s a reason why they are doing radio, with the exception of robin.

John makes a really good point

didn't they have this conversion years ago???

People love quoting that supposed line from Bobby. Only he doesn't say that. Just watch that episode. It's not up for debate. He never mentions things "going black." Wtf. Bottom line, whether Tony lives or dies is not stated one way or the other. So all you vehemently arguing, which ever side you're on, you sound ridiculous. Chase left it up to our interpretation. Personally, I believe he lives. All his enemies, besides the feds, are dead. Who would be behind killing him? Phil's crew doesn't care he whacked him. Butchie even acknowledged that. "Do what you gotta do." Member's Only guy is a red herring. It seems like he keeps glancing at Tony, but if you pay attention, every time he glances over, something just happened, usually that young couple laughing. Again, we don't know, we will never know, but I think he goes on, with all the problems, the feds, Carlo testifying, etc. Like it says in the song, during a close-up on Carmela's face, "it goes on and on." Edit: and we all know music is important on that show, that the choice of songs has meaning. "You Keep Me Hanging On" plays TWICE in the final episode. Chase is telling us right there. There is no definite answer.

He wakes up in hell as the dream sequence suggests. The screen goes to black and that is what we see because the abyss is deep, dark, and black on our end.

Dude I’m telling you the reason why David chase ended sopranos the way he did because look 12 years later People (Well mainly the Stern staff because well they have nothing better to do) Are still talking about The finale and that’s why he wants!! Duh!!

It's the classic ambiguous ending to a series that leaves it open to another season if they so choose.

Why does memet look 20 years younger on his home cam than in studio?

A bunch of high school dorks arguing.

What year is this?

Is Memet transitioning to Kaitlyn Walker?

The viewer dies!! The audience gets whacked and it ends the show. We’re dead-All the violence and gangster we saw for 8 years, we had to get whacked, it was a good move by boss Tony 😂 No gangster cinema whacks the audience. We’re a bunch of rats.

Best ending ever !!! #SOPRANOS RULE...the ending was for people who followed the WHOLE SHOW !! #PAULIEWASRAT

Lol they're arguing over a show that ended 13 years ago

Bobby Bacala thought Quasimodo was Nostradamus. Who the hell is going to take his word for anything, especially what happens when you die?

Hey chris, wheres waldo? Lol.

Thankfully someone corrected Jason. For being as versed as he claims to be, his conclusion was really poorly based.

In the moment, it was wack. It seemed like an easy way out of ending possibly the best series ever. But of course, u think about it years later and its fine. But I feel it was too much pressure to "choose" an ending and took an easy way out

Movies and shows like this is akin to listening to old radio shows or listening to music before MTV where you would hear the music without the production visual that projected what you "should " see in your mind. Saying that, in my mind when I saw the Sopranos ending, I had two ending scenarios. 1) Ajay shot Tony to take control of "the family " 2) Ajay was aware of the set up and came packed and shot the hitman before he was able to whack Tony and the family. That's the beauty of this. Let your minds eye determine your own conclusion. All in all, great series and great actors, which what it is.

I liked the ending

It is really hard to listen to Jon Hein and Chris Wilding on their moron theory that you shouldn’t have to think during endings. Chris said “that’s not what an ending I supposed to be” as if there is some rule book on endings. I have agree with both of them but here they sound stupid and it’s frustrating that they aren’t called out for this by Jason or JD.

I like it.

Okay.

Legendary ending. David Chase said it was a “fuck you” to critics and fans alike. He resented that people wanted to see Tony dead.

Thoughts:Jason's theory makes a lot of sense.Chris' hair is douchy. JD's beard is hideous. I think there's a bird living in there. I thought Memet was a girl lmao. Never seen him till now.

Gary should did talk a lot 😂

It’s meadow coming thru the door, he doesn’t die and it’s a great ending

JD is the man.

I agree with The Hein. Nothing was ever ambiguous, or left to the viewer’s imagination during the series’ entire run; a hit was a hit, on The Sopranos. Although I didn’t dislike the finale, I would have preferred a more definite ending. New York and Jersey ended the war, so there was no reason for Tony to get killed - unless it was by an outsider, which is unlikely. In my mind, Tony lives

He’s dead. They telegraphed it in the previous episodes. It faded to black because the scene was carried out in Tony’s point of view.

EXCELLENT POINT... If you're reading a great book for weeks, you're invested and you're following this wonderful story then it just stops mid sentence. Nothing. How is that OK?? At least a book you can see you're down to the last page, but this was a total cop out. They didn't know how they wanted to end it, so they didn't.

I would think more ppl would watch this channel by now🤔🤔🤔

Of course tony did NOT die

The moment I saw the final scene of the Sopranos finale, I was pissed the hell off. Great show, terrible ending. I wanted closure; not to be left on a cliffhanger. When the screen went black, I thought I didn't pay my cable bill... that's some bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!

these guys got way to much time on there hands. they should be working around the clock to make the show the best it can be.

Only JV athletes think he lived.

First guy is right, other guys are all wrong

Yada yada yada yada

Of course the whole family died otherwise why would the members only guy wait for meadow to finish parking

If that quote about everything just going black is true, then he 10% died. It doesnt take an idiot to figure it out. Why is this even a conversation.

They only fade to black to keep the possibility of bringing it back again sometime.

Some of these guys like Chris and Memet are so desperate. It's nauseating...especially Chris 🤢

tony died the question is was it a good ending?

Memet was right though.

Wow Robin looks amazing! Holy cow!

He definitely died. Perfect ending, it all turns to black.

Am I the only one who think Memet looks like he has women hair

They didn't kill him just in case the show or spin-off came out. It's bull shit.

Is Memet transitioning?

Perfect ending...he dies and i didn't have to see it, he spared us some pain there.

Agree with John Hein here. I’d rather know what happened than leave it up to the imagination.

Is Jason losing weight ? Asking for a friend

The ending sucked but it was way better than GOT last season.

The ending sucks. The last season is the worst season but still pretty good. At least the whole final season wasn’t a dumpster fire like Game of Thrones

the issue is if you're going to do a more "stylish ending" then you really need to set it up properly clearly most fans agree it wasn't "set up" so they felt cheapened by it, end of story same concept with game of thrones

He died.