I think duh! Of course he did and needs to be fired.

I think the Canton PD is corrupt as hell. They are like a group of 14-year old boys - or at best, like 18 year old college boys in a fraternity.

Come on you know she did it!

Brothers in Blue need to come clean. Integrity is important for justice if they are in LE!

I’m positive all the Pollyianas would be shocked by what cops say to each other about perps using their personal phones. Just shocked. Pretty sure if i found out someone had hit my brother with their car on a freezing winter night and left him their I’d have some choice descriptors of that person too.

Yes that is the very worrisome part of this whole situation

If you happen to run a stop sign in that town they would find a way to arrest you for something and put you in jail.

@KathleenHelms-nq1vk better watch out for your tail light while you're at the stop sign!

And it must be the norm in that town because of all their phones, videos, dogs and evidence logs dissapearing when investigations happen.

​@@mandystone3005 This is what blows me away, why did they all get rid of their phones? For the exact reason Proctor didn't, he had the absolute worst stuff about Karen Read on it and it destroyed their case.

They need to revamp that whole Canton police department. Glad the FBI is involved. I hope all those involved lose their jobs and freedom. Their reputation is already destroyed along with Lally et al.

@@GenX1968and the State Police!!

When I heard him say that I was like "Wait a minute....I have to rewind this! I thought this guy was a cop?" Turns OUT HE WAS and I was like "Oooommmmgggg" 😳🤣

@@Murphlindabsolutely 👍🏼

@@GenX1968 FBI IS GIVING DEFENSE COOKIES. FBI CANT GET IN KNOW BECAUSE IS A STATE CASE WHEN IS OVER WATCH THE FEDS

How terribly sad is that fact! Imagine All the innocent people behind bars. 😢 THIS here is nothing new. Very scary.

Yes, but all of her money, and her parents money, will be spent on this. And her life is ruined. And her boyfriend is dead.

Yes, but all of her money, and her parents money, will be spent on this. And her life is ruined. And her boyfriend is dead.

@@alicencosgrove5533If she is found innocent she will make the money back with books , appearances etc.

@alicencosgrove she has a lot of necessary skills and accreditation to move on and recover.

And…. Why didn’t the CW show the picture they had to Barros so he could verify!! Because it wouldn’t! This is highly suspicious , since I believe they did present it for Proctor

OFCOURSE THEY STILL HAVE THEIR JOBS..THEY HAVE QUALIFIED IMMUNITY...THIS ISN'T AS UNCOMMON AS ONE MIGHT THINK...IT'S JUST THAT MANY PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD THE HIGH PROFILE ATTORNEY'S SHE HAS ‼ WHAT A DISGRACE‼

Women need to speak up against law enforcement, shameful, disgusting, degrading, not to mention Medical. Gross conduct and he still has a job, start a petition for changes.

well in my opinion karen is a retarded wack job . Who would make up a story through the internet. Launching a smear campaign with Turtleboy to defame and harass good, hard-working people like the Mccabes and Albert's? The evidence speaks for itself despite trooper Proctors' personal preferences and Opinions. DIRECT EYE WITNESSES PLUS Forensics and DNA facts rule supremely. Hair,blood,clothing glass, and tail light transfer onto John with blunt force injury from car to the head + Karen's own confession I HIT HIM O MY GOD I HIT HIM = SORRY BUT GUILTY AS CHARGED IMO.

It's frightening the likes of Proctor has a job as a cop, he is a corrupt cop.

It’s really disturbing. Anyone else in any professional setting wouldn’t have their job or at the very least would have been demoted…Instead, it seems they joined right in.

In most cases . Not just this one.

She’s hot though

Welcome to Massachusetts. Law enforcement is beyond corrupt here. It is a disgrace laid bare for the world to see.

The Good Old Boys Club

I learned a valuable lesson very early in life: “Never write down anything you don’t want everyone to read.” And it’s not just these police officers, it’s many police officers. And it’s not just police officers, it’s many men who think and speak like this about women-any woman. These guys got caught because their stupidity doesn’t often get pulled into the light. I doubt they’ve ever gotten busted like this on a case- is a mistake he/they probably won’t make again.

She is atrocious in every aspect

they ALL are, like... angry, in that court--and I can see why! But yes you're 100% right she should keep her cool better.

100%

I agree!

I agree. I believe she’s seeing, in real time that the judiciary system she represents is completely corrupt. An embarrassment on the WHOLE state of MASS

Because he's a fence sitter....

He probably gets paid good to side with the commonwealth. I use to love Vinnie but sometimes I have to wonder whose side he is on. I just want justice in this world. I even named my first born Justice because I know this world needs more justice

Because he thinks karen read is guilty LOL 😝

Of course we know Proctor had his phone…he was texting his sister on 1/29 around 3:00 about having interviewed Jen McCabe

@@CONCERNEDcitizenforever he doesnt

Umm you are aware there is actual video evidence showing the broken taillight, not to mention Karen herself voicing to others she had a broken taillight before the cops were even brought into the situation. Have you been paying attention at all? That’s been made clear day after day in court

Yeah we are supposed to believe the guy yucking it up at Karen’s medical condition. The same guy that never bothered to search the house. This is a cover up.

There are Two lots of CCTV footage showing the broken tail light Long before the car was in the garage lovey. Yawn.

@@karinaz8756 You should catch up about the pieces of her tail light cover found under the snow & more later when the snow had melted as well as Lots of tiny fragments, red & clear, that were in his Clothes. Then there's the broken cocktail glass that he was seen still holding when he left the Waterfall & the main piece was found by his body, plus little bits on the road & one piece on her ridged bumper bar that also had tiny bits of the clear part of the tail light cover. Read will get extra jail time for agreeing to go along with the Abysmal made up story that she & Jackson put out to the media. It's for this reason of blaming others & Lots of others that the prosecutor chose to put the cart before the horse. You kids should Understand that it's the Job of a defence lawyer to accuse other people for the purpose of trying to save their client from the gallows. The first thing Read said when she called Kerry Roberts was, that John was dead. She was the only one who knew a body was at that side part of the yard, under 4 - 6 inches of snow. Because of the child lock for the back doors, when she screamed that she saw him, she couldn’t get out & Jen & Kerry had Time to look around & saw Nothing. Who else but a vicious Nutter would be soo fn Angry that her exit door was locked & so she was Kicking it due to her quick fire Temper, like the evil eyed Thing that she obviously Is. More than one first responder at the scene heard Read say she hit him. After the ambulance had taken John to hospital, Read kept saying that she wanted to kill herself, which is also an admission of guilt, due to remorse. Another ambulance had to be called & she was taken to the hospital for an assessment. When she later found out that there wasn't any ring camera footage nor did the cop cam footage pick up what she Said, she did the ole switcheroo about her Admissions. Since then, she has told various versions including for a TV interview, because she can't remember her Lies. FYI - the CCTV at John's house shows that she reversed her vehicle all the way back for no other reason than to deliberately bang into the back of John's car for the purpose of trying to cover up when & where the tail light cover on her car was broken. The authentic footage shows that she pressed a button on the console which was to disable the brake assist. You should know that the model of that vehicle had a reversing camera & screen & so, a Sensor. No doubt she went over to the Albert's house at that time in the morning to see if any pieces there but it had snowed too much by then. Aww. At the very beginning, Yanetti stated on the court house steps that it was an accident & she didn't mean to hit him. Then a performing clown was paid to accuse the cops of Her dirty deed & now people like you believe that every person in town who had a pulse is a liar. I pity all who believe that serving police officers have covered up the killing of one of their own. Then there's also the many EMT present at the scene & multiple others at the hospital, all of whom you accuse of doing the same. The evidence of her driving the route back to the Albert's house is Coming Up with the trial & the medical examiner will tell you that John did Not have two black eyes, for a Start. Evil personified is Karen Read who deliberately reversed from 60 feet away at 24.2 miles per hour & her ten ton Truck slammed into the head of a serving police officer as he was bending down & she just left him there to freeze to death. The actual strange part is all those who believe every word a Defence lawyer has been spouting from the rooftops as his Marketing ploy. Yawn. There are many Doctored photos of John’s arm as if lots of dark red blood as if from deep cuts yet not one photo shows Any blood on his arm Anywhere. The sole Purpose of Jackson's very public hooha in the lead up for the TV cameras, was for any potential jurors to be greatly Influenced. Only morons believe the Abrasions are from a dog & BTW - last time I checked, dogs have Bottom teeth also. Doh. It's about time that someone started showing pictures of a Square shaped Earth. LMAO. Imagine the Money I would make from those. No doubt You would be all-in on That con job too hey lovey. Jackson only started up his dirty deeds fairy tale because those at the afterparty were Cops & their family & so he included every cop in the State as a cover up squad yet one of theirs was killed. And the bagging of All cops in one basket was to grab the instant Attention of people like You, obviously. Only numpties believe Jacksons pathetic BS. Here’s how it goes - the more witnesses the prosecution had to put on the stand the More the trial drags out & so, the More work for her performing seals to do & so the Mega bucks that they get from Her. LOL. The best part about the whole gutter sniping scenario is that Read is Broke & she will Always be broke as John's niece & nephew will Sue her evil ass to hell & back next. LMAO.

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Turtleboy could have easily ruined this case. I'm the same , I never used to believe in conspiracies , but I've learned over recent years how police act , they act like they are the cleverest people in the world , they never believe their wrongdoing will ever be found out , at the start of the trial things didn't seem right about this case. The house being sold The dog being given up So I already started wondering what else, and every week now the evidence blatantly shows a cover up. It's frightening how obvious it is , to the point I'm surprised the judge doesn't just throw it out. If this jury finds her guilty then we have a huge problem with justice , and it can never be believed in again.

There is such a thing as conspiracies.

I came into this case believing it at most was a drunken accident with a bunch of cops who decided they were above the law by obviously driving drunk. I thought the cover up was crazy even though I’ve known some dirty cops in my life, but the more and more this case goes on, the more I believe she was framed.

Yeah, no one has ever conspired, EVER. Especially not law enforcement. Idk how people can live in total delusion.

@@dawnkinateder9617because they would have to reexamine almost everything they think they know.

Me to I agree with you uk

Fully agree

Whack job was one of the nicer things he said.

He didn't lie.

@@maanmohammad8459 if you say so…that would give him ONE time he didn’t 🤣

He is right. She is a whack job

@@kristibriley4483 We will see😂😂

Allowed a gift from one of the parties involved in the death

She’s pretty hot though so it’s understandable why he wanted to see her in her underwhere

Hopefully the FEDS know "What Else". My money says this is just the tip of the iceberg 🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊

Well to be fair she is a nutcase who killed someone.

His bosses liked it... how are they employed?

Maybe they thought he will say something else…

Maybe Lally is throwing the case!

Exactly and idk why Vinnie thinks it will help the prosecution 🤔

I love how Lally tried to imply that perhaps his vision was impaired by the blizzard conditions!

​@@cabbastyles. Vinnie is too pro police

6/11/24 Amen to you. Thank you for your service, sounds like an honest one to me, it’s refreshing!👮🏼‍♂️🇺🇸

Thank you for your service. I totally agree.

First, she needs to be acquitted... Then there needs to be a proper investigation into the Albert's and McCabes (aka The McAlberts 😆).... I don't even think it should be done by the State Bureau of Investigations, but should be conducted by the FBI! Thank you for your service! I appreciate when law enforcement can admit when something stinks when it's not favorable TO other law enforcement.

@@drea1976 FBI is prolly looking into it...

@@drea1976 6/24/24 Already been interviewed under oath by Grand Jury re: The handling of this case, they are being looked at hard. I wouldn’t be shocked if charges are filed!!

I think they thought it was just an accident and wanted cover the drinking even for Karen and she flip script on them with these high powered lawyers turned these cops and their families lives upside down. Really not fair to all those people .?

@@RcPlayer-tt2vw I don't see anyone covering for Karen. I see texts about how much they appear to hate her immediately. I've heard exactly no one say that Karen and John even had an argument - we're jut suppose to assume that in a few minutes drive she became so enraged that she would plow him down with her car? They cheated on each other, like mutually acted toxic... and no one died. I honestly can't make the leap to murder here. Why would Karen even call John - repeatedly - if she knew he was dead in the snow? Why would she flee the scene then call him and then go back? It's pretty ridiculous. I'm just saying I would never convict based on this case presented.

it's not just unprofessional. They made an attempt to frame but in doing so they made all of the evidence unusable in a future case. They know what they're doing.

@tishwitch.. they’re Irish, beer drinking is a requisite. /s She darn sure looks guilty of at least manslaughter to me so far. I’ll reserve my final opinion till after the defense makes its case, but so far, looks bad for her.

Proctor is a disgrace to the badge. Lally is a disgrace for giving him a platform for his ridiculous excuses. By 3pm the day he found a "frozen ", Read was already guilty. This is absurd for the Okeefe family as well as Karen Read & family. I have no words for Proctor..beyond disgusting human being

It's also about cops covering up a murder of a cop by other cops...

I'll go on the record and say, yeah he planted evidence , they are all involved in killing John and trying to frame Karen Read. It was obvious after all the lost phones , house , dogs and buttdials , but became 100% after the reverse image of the suv , and now this corrupt cop planting evidence.

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It's not only plausible, it is the only rational explanation for how pieces of plastic that were observed on camera still being on Karen's car LONG after and far away from where she allegedly hit him, to have been recovered at the Fairview address. There is much more evidence to inculpate Proctor as an accessory after the fact to murder and obstruction of justice than there is for any crime beyond DUI/DWI for Ms. Read.

Exactly. People forget the defence don’t have to prove anything. Only put it in the jury’s mind that this could have happened.

She's helping the corrupt DA who's working with corrupt cops to cover up the murder of a cop by other cops

So true!

I disagree, she's been more than helpful after sustained objections, advising defense attorney how to rephrase questions with detail, unlike in any trial I've seen.

@@davidschneide5422 lol .... shes bought and paid for

@davidschneider she has to since they’re not allowed to know what exactly they’re being objected to with these silent ass objections. They have no way of knowing if the objections is on account if it being compound, hearsay, leading, argumentative, or any of the other dozens of grounds for objections there are. It’s unclear for the lawyers.

Wow that’s right y haven’t they done this yet

@@lisadahlquist9501well for the prosecutors that wouldn’t help their defense

Please judge get w/ the program!

We haven't even heard the official cause of death 😒 This trial is an absolute mess.

Where did you see this?

Proctor is the lead investigator in the Ana Walshe case. Sad. Pathetic.

@@darcymoon2109 OMG! 😢

Yes I believe it. Many people chose to turn a blind eye. Many superiors are just blind in integrity and soul. I have no faith anymore.

Good lord 😢 Poor woman

and she is a killer!

Im sure he got promoted after this.. SMH! 🤢

The supervisors of his don’t mind, they’re engaging in the texts and even liking them.

It says more about him than it does about her

just wait till Janneti gets to him. hes gonna be redder then that light😂 (is redder a word? sry watching from across this flat globe😅)

He asked for re phrase because he was too thick to know what objectify means the blockhead

Can you imagine him showing up to a dv incident where the perpetrator is a cop???

He sent those texts and not a single person told him that what he was doing was unprofessional. Not even when he sent it to more cops.

​@@karinaz8756it's clearly systemic and accepted by the fact no one called him out even once. 🤮

Yes it does..I live in MA..sadly..but it s still pretty much a boy's locker..but most of the police have integrity ❤❤❤grew up with 6 brothers so it s like meh...

How would use move snow ❄️ without touching the evidence? Should they drive by as the snow melts or that criminal too ?!

@@RcPlayer-tt2vw no one mentioned anything about how they touched or didn't touch the evidence. From what I understand, first thing you'll want to do is secure the crime scene... didn't happen. People popped by to the Albert home all day and throughout the week. The home was never even checked. They could have EASILY shoveled 18 inches of snow to check for car light pieces... they collected none for 10+ hours after finding John. How was there 0 pieces of shattered glass beside John's body where the snow had melted? I have a few ideas. You act like John was found on a mountain in Napal... he was by the road in a subdivision. It had barely snowed in weeks. And yes, I do expect them to collect evidence in sealed containers, put into sealed bags, with a chain of custody. They did NONE of what should be considered the bare minimum here. So I have a lot of questions about this police department... they also seem to drink and drive pretty casually. All of this should bother any intelligent person.

@Rcplayer, they imagine there’s some special $10,000 Police snow shovel that would do a better job.

@@jtjones4081 my kids dollar store shovel could get through 18" of snow in far less than 2 weeks... which is how long the police apparently gathered bits of light. It's truly the worst police work I have ever heard.

JM is a disgrace to women

Sat with the kid he was in a wedding with and claimed he had no conflict.

She's the one that got the ball rolling against karen! When Karen asked Jen if it was possible she could have hit john, that's when Jen decided to conspire with the Alberts and the dirty cops to frame Karen for the murder that happened in the basement of the Albert's home!

@@darcymoon21096/11/24 He’s family, sat at bridal table At wedding, all you need to know right there.

That’s what I was thinking! Give me an opposing viewpoint that is able to offer something

He’s awful he hates women like KR he’s prob an incel

Kevin is nothing more than a Mcalbert sock puppet. I predict he'll be replaced on Vinnie's panel at some point. There is literally nothing balanced about his opinion. Neutral people when presented with facts will always reconsider their position unless they have ulterior motives.

@@premieresplumes9378 No one else would put their reputation on the line with defending this case. This guy lives with his parents and has no career

Kevin is the ONLY expert they can get to argue the other side. Sad.

You should catch up about the pieces of her tail light cover found under the snow & more later when the snow had melted as well as Lots of tiny fragments, red & clear, that were in his Clothes. Then there's the broken cocktail glass that he was seen still holding when he left the Waterfall & the main piece was found by his body, plus little bits on the road & one piece on her ridged bumper bar that also had tiny bits of the clear part of the tail light cover. Read will get extra jail time for agreeing to go along with the Abysmal made up story that she & Jackson put out to the media. It's for this reason of blaming others & Lots of others that the prosecutor chose to put the cart before the horse. You kids should Understand that it's the Job of a defence lawyer to accuse other people for the purpose of trying to save their client from the gallows. The first thing Read said when she called Kerry Roberts was, that John was dead. She was the only one who knew a body was at that side part of the yard, under 4 - 6 inches of snow. Because of the child lock for the back doors, when she screamed that she saw him, she couldn’t get out & Jen & Kerry had Time to look around & saw Nothing. Who else but a vicious Nutter would be soo fn Angry that her exit door was locked & so she was Kicking it due to her quick fire Temper, like the evil eyed Thing that she obviously Is. More than one first responder at the scene heard Read say she hit him. After the ambulance had taken John to hospital, Read kept saying that she wanted to kill herself, which is also an admission of guilt, due to remorse. Another ambulance had to be called & she was taken to the hospital for an assessment. When she later found out that there wasn't any ring camera footage nor did the cop cam footage pick up what she Said, she did the ole switcheroo about her Admissions. Since then, she has told various versions including for a TV interview, because she can't remember her Lies. FYI - the CCTV at John's house shows that she reversed her vehicle all the way back for no other reason than to deliberately bang into the back of John's car for the purpose of trying to cover up when & where the tail light cover on her car was broken. The authentic footage shows that she pressed a button on the console which was to disable the brake assist. You should know that the model of that vehicle had a reversing camera & screen & so, a Sensor. No doubt she went over to the Albert's house at that time in the morning to see if any pieces there but it had snowed too much by then. Aww. At the very beginning, Yanetti stated on the court house steps that it was an accident & she didn't mean to hit him. Then a performing clown was paid to accuse the cops of Her dirty deed & now people like you believe that every person in town who had a pulse is a liar. I pity all who believe that serving police officers have covered up the killing of one of their own. Then there's also the many EMT present at the scene & multiple others at the hospital, all of whom you accuse of doing the same. The evidence of her driving the route back to the Albert's house is Coming Up with the trial & the medical examiner will tell you that John did Not have two black eyes, for a Start. Evil personified is Karen Read who deliberately reversed from 60 feet away at 24.2 miles per hour & her ten ton Truck slammed into the head of a serving police officer as he was bending down & she just left him there to freeze to death. The actual strange part is all those who believe every word a Defence lawyer has been spouting from the rooftops as his Marketing ploy. Yawn. There are many Doctored photos of John’s arm as if lots of dark red blood as if from deep cuts yet not one photo shows Any blood on his arm Anywhere. The sole Purpose of Jackson's very public hooha in the lead up for the TV cameras, was for any potential jurors to be greatly Influenced. Only morons believe the Abrasions are from a dog & BTW - last time I checked, dogs have Bottom teeth also. Doh. It's about time that someone started showing pictures of a Square shaped Earth. LMAO. Imagine the Money I would make from those. No doubt You would be all-in on That con job too hey lovey. Jackson only started up his dirty deeds fairy tale because those at the afterparty were Cops & their family & so he included every cop in the State as a cover up squad yet one of theirs was killed. And the bagging of All cops in one basket was to grab the instant Attention of people like You, obviously. Only numpties believe Jacksons pathetic BS. Here’s how it goes - the more witnesses the prosecution had to put on the stand the More the trial drags out & so, the More work for her performing seals to do & so the Mega bucks that they get from Her. LOL. The best part about the whole gutter sniping scenario is that Read is Broke & she will Always be broke as John's niece & nephew will Sue her evil ass to hell & back next. LMAO.

Exactly

So, now because a cop was venting via text messages, she's to be handed a get out of jail free card for deliberately reversing her ten ton Truck from 60 feet away at 24.2 miles per hour for the purpose of killing a human being. Really?

Lovey, there's been Loads of evidence against that vicious thing already but Biased cult members like yourself just choose not to see it.

@@bobbienielsen6860 So, now because a cop was venting via text messages, she's to be handed a get out of jail free card for deliberately reversing her ten ton Truck from 60 feet away at 24.2 miles per hour for the purpose of killing a human being. Really?

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His wife must be so embarrassed and the foul cop has kids too poor things

His wife is actually proud of him. She put out a statement. She called KR supporters employers to get them fired. She’s a wench.

Actually his wife supports him, she put out a statement. She is "proud" of her husband and how he acted.

You clearly don’t know cops. They’re just going to circle the wagon . Cops are like a gang.

He gave off strong incel vibes.

Because she’s a cop killer.

Because he talked to Jen mcabe first

@@stevenprice6957You wish

@@SLYDITexactly right

u just don't like him b/c turtle told u not to. you're happy to be brainwashed & bitter. turtle on, mate! 🧠🧼😆

What evidence

No he won’t. Cops are rarely ever held accountable

He isn't the only corrupt cop in this. Sad and pathetic.

Yup....and the Albert family going out and in and up their driveway never saw diddly squat once the snow melted.

@@annjanovsky8054But the State cops doing drive-bus to and from their way to work did as well! SMH

@@annjanovsky8054 So corrupt.

Kevin literally drives me up the wall 😅 I've never seen such blind, stubborn ignorance. Reasonable doubt everywhere, yet he refuses to see it. I think at this point, it's his ego he's afraid of ruining.

Kevin is the only fool willing to defend the disgusting investigation.

He is being willfully ignorant. People smashed cell phones and SIM cards and this guy can’t imagine that several people are in on it? Explain who took the video from the library that would prove Karen’s video is still in tact.

Kevin HAS to be right, even though he's so wrong! Love Nick!

Peter Ellikin is so much more reasonable than the other attorney you usually have on this panel. Make him a regular!

Exactly, Proctor deleted the videos that would have proved she was innocent. This case is over.

Not going too happen. This case is 2 years old and he’s still working. You think his bosses don’t already know this?

@@kaydeal775 FBI is not done investigating yet... Proctor could still face justice for the multiple federal crimes/rights violations he committed.

He’s still working and will continue working. He will not be charged with any crimes. His crime is being an idiot and misogynist. That does not equal criminal

@@brch2 Maybe the feds will get him. His department obviously doesn’t care.

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All of them

Yes!!

LOL! That's ridiculous. Women commit murder all the time. They kill their own children, their husbands, their parents. There is a reason for the old cliche, indeed, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Women are every bit as capable of murder as men. In this case though I don't think she meant to do it. It was a drinken accident, tragic, but an accident.

Exactly!! Even the statistics are on Karen’s side.

Ok lol

@@stevenprice6957 oh, so you think professors are known for being: thugs, drug dealers, abusers, killers, violent, unjust, unfair, unreasonable, egotistical, immunity, secrecy of brotherhood in blue, fratenizing, unprofessional, incompetent, untrainable, rogue, trigger happy, reckless, bullies, liars, apathetic...

hahahaha no way. all yesterday's testimony did was show that proctor's a scumbag.

What do you mean? Ally Mccabe picked him up BEFORE O Keefe arrived. She testified to this AND HER TEXT MESSAGES CORROBORATE THIS. Do you believe that she is lying and doctored her text messages? Do you believe that her parents are encouraging her to do this and allowing her to perjure herself? What evidence do you have that there was any animus at all between 17-year-old Colin McCabe and 42 y/o John O Keefe?

Colin wasn’t at the house when John was dropped off. Why should the cops even ask him what happened?? Geesh

Make sure it's clear you're being sarcastic ​@@jtjones4081

Absolutely. Little hot headed mo-fo.

@@jtjones4081 He WAS at the house. I guess you didn't watch his testimony, eh?

This is what makes no sense to me, the first thing I'd be doing is taking a picture of the tail light. If I was Karen, I'd have taken a picture, if I was Kerri, I'd done it, if I was Jen I'd done it, and definitely if I was Proctor I'd done it. With it being towed so far, it could easily break more, so need to document what it looked like before it left her house.

They should ALL be fired and arrested

If you haaavvvee tooooo🙄🙄🙄🙄 😂😂😂😂

Not with kids 😬

He is a pedo.

Too damn funny😂

And only a small piece was missing when csi reassembled it.

@@alicencosgrove5533 Exactly...

Cracked, not annihilated!

The one piece that they haven’t found!!!

And looks like a beaver 🦫 🦷 🦷 😅

@@KitKatSukiKathe looks like an Albert!

I wish they’d take him off. It’s pretty annoying. It’s like he’s trying to fight with everyone instead of giving an honest opinion.

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He's on to try and minimize Nick's support for Karen. You are right. I could do a better job as a lay person than he does. Most times, when he responds to questions now he refuses to concede even when Vinnie and the other two guests are all in agreement,

@@patriciayatessanders9870 He is a lay person

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Dude needs to open his mind and come out of the yellow cottage.

Wonder if that guy used to be a cop ...? 😆 Maybe he's from that area..?

Karen is guilty

@@alicencosgrove5533Out of his parents basement!

@@stevenprice6957😂

So before he’s at the house lol.

She sounds jealous of Karen as well!

@stevenprice6957 Am I talking to a McAlbert? There was no floor on that lawn. The 3 floors prove he was in that house that night.

This judge is an absolute disgrace to the bench and all the judges across the United States

@freedomofspeechorDEATH1111 well it makes sense, thanks for sharing.

@freedomofspeechorDEATH1111 Her brother was also the attorney for Chris Albert, father of Colin Albert, who DUI hit, took off, and killed at a college exchange student in 1994. He didn't turn himself until days later and of course he was also sober then.

proctor's a scumbag, but he definitely didn't try to 'coerce' any1. should he have been fired? no doubt. but he wasn't going to risk everything he has just to frame some1.

​@@BoxerClover😂😂😂 Oh! Yes he did!

She’s an intelligent, successful professional. He’s a misogynist.

Well.. Here's my theory the Alberts were tight with his sister that he says he talks to at least five times every day. Maybe his sister wanted him to help out her good friends & fellow Police officer..? That guy who rehomed the dog who clearly didn't bite John- oh wait! They'll say that was obviously Karen 😆- or the Lexus that caused those clear canines on his arm. And the fact that Albert's phone also magically broke or went missing- right before that other cop's phone did- The 'good guy' who was flirting back and forth with Karen- the one who was caught throwing his away on the Military post.. because that's perfectly normal. 💁‍♀️ To drive your broken phone to a military post and throw it away in two different garbages. Especially when it's broken. No red flags there. 😆 I think that they seem comfortable in how they operate. It seemed like these actions aren't ... brand new or anything. You know? Doubt it's the first time this has happened. Just how many innocent people are locked up, how many dead people's families have been lied to, and how deep is the corruption at this department? That's a question.

@@INFP_me I know this is a little bit off The subject but Mr. Proctor actions from trying to find photos of Miss Read in The nude are similar of what dirty teenage Boy’s would have done back in High School. I’m saying grown men Who have any morals would know for a fact that type of attitude doesn’t belong at work or at any place especially if that man has a Wife and children.

Because he can't have a woman like he. What fool pokes fun about the side effects of Karen having Lupus. He is going to hell for sure...

Because he listened to the Albert's first and was convinced she was guilty within the first few hours

You are so right. I started off believing there was no conspiracy and no one planted evidence. How naive I was

I don't think so. There is not much evidence against him any more than there is much (legitimate) evidence against Karen Read. Maybe there never was any evidence because he is innocent or maybe it's because the investigation was shoddy and corrupt from the start. No one examined the house, cellphones, vehicles for most people in that house. All electronic data is probably gone. The combined digital evidence might have told the real story whatever it is. I don't think there will be any justice for the victim. :(

No they will not

Yeah, I already knew the answer…. Unfortunately….

I believe Kerry Roberts said something similar and she was no fan of Karen Read.

And at a low rate of speed!

The Medical examiner hadn’t testified yet. Why do you think he didn’t have internal damage to his lower half?? You have absolutely nothing to base that on. Wait for the ME.

The only thing I can think of is he tried to move out the way he was stuck between the fire hydrant and that’s what the gash to his head is from. Why was she so worried about him not being home? Isn’t it a tad early to be raising alarms??

This is bizarre. I am impartial in this case but proctor texting his superiors about KR . And they find it funny is beyond me. I wonder how many innocent people these people take down . Trooper proctor and his colleagues are the real criminals . Rip Okeefe . May your family find peace at the end of this .

@jrjones because the car would naturally hit his lower body….

How did he degrade her?

@@ginosko_ You're kidding, right? lmao

His thinking is No better than proctors

Don't forget the butt dialing...😂

Yeah, I literally want everyone BUT Karen sent to prison. They all clearly did something in this case, otherwise they wouldn't have dumped their phones, sold their home, their dog, got their stories straight. Thankfully the FBI is investigating this entire department because they all need to be fired.

What medical conditions are they talking about?

So you believe 50 people are in on this conspiracy? 😂😂😂 How did her tail light get broken? That was bumper to bumper contact in the parking lot, it didn’t happen there.

@@jtjones4081 How about something weird happened in the Sallyport within the 42min missing in the video 😂😂😂

He doesn’t like her cause she killed John O’Keefe

@@swayslay2070 apparently she had her colon removed. I dont like the woman, she’s guilty as fk, but her health she can’t help. That was wrong to even allow in. No need to go there. Yannetti mentioned it at her very first court appearance too, that she had her entire colon removed

It’s there before the snow. Come on. Think about it. The timing and when it snowed.

Someone's tow truck piled snow on the victim and the evidence!

It showed her leaving, but nothing of her returning, the next time it records, it's her leaving again. So someone either used the app and turned it off or when she was home, she deleted part of it. But why. I'm sure the ring app can show who logged into it. Plus her late model Lexus will have GPS computer..unless that was disarmed too. She was covering her tracks that same night. If the other people left him in the snow, it would have just looked like an accident. I can't see why all these people are risking careers etc to make a conspiracy to have her blamed. If all those so called dodgy cops etc wanted to cover it up, they could have without involving her. There's no need to involve her. I don't but this conspiracy. As Occam's razor goes, the simplest answer is probably the right one.

Cus he wanted her for bed

Bc he is a low IQ cop who thinks he is better than people and hates women bc hes a loser who could never get the pretty girl

I think because she killed one of their own

How his relationship with his own mom, start there...

@@suemirchell9737nah it can’t be that 😂

Yea and if it was a heated garage why was there snow all over the floor before they drove in