The only difference between this and a pub watering down beer is the goverment made watering down fuel legal.

you left out a very important detail... IT takes fuel to create the ethenol... typically made from corn... so its a poor offset of anything.... in the US, ethenol is pushed because of all the farm subsidies... also, it drives up food costs because its taking crops out of the food system...

It great that your bringing this up Jack! I drive a lot and noticed the difference in my cars range when using E10. I’m considering got back to the dark side of Diesel if I’m honest.

I’ve been getting 6-7 mpg less than I used to, and it’s now £1.47 a litre where I live. Considering I travel about 400 miles a week it’s a huge impact on my costs.

Jack you are missing main point here - more consumption, more taxes collected by the state 😉

It’s crazy - people will use more fuel by volume so more tax revenue! Really there should be a fuel duty cut on E10 (rather than freeze) to account for this.

I've just used a full tank of E10. My "petrol low" indicator came on after 300 miles, when usually it comes on after 315 to 320 miles. I filled up tonight with Super, which I'm sure will lose me money but I want as little ethanol as possible going through the engine.

Very interesting! Using more E10 means more detours to the petrol station, and more tanker deliveries. I wonder what the total carbon cost of E10 is and whether it’s justified?

Use E5 99 premium and you will feel the huge difference in engine response, noise reduction and better efficiency, buy from Tesco and the price is similar to E10 95 from other garages. Your car will thank you. 👌

I'm glad that you raised this point as I've recently been looking into exactly the same subject. Apart from the potential damage to my old Rover P5B which had a replacement engine recently; the costs involved to run on E10 are, based upon my annual mileage, somewhat prohibitive. Despite a premium for Super Unleaded, I'm going to take that route and get the timing/carbs adjusted which, hopefully, will see me through. Good content Jack. Thanks 👍

I never use it here in Australia, instead pay the extra 2c a litre for the standard. Also the only way Britain will be carbon neutral by 2050 is to plant about 100 million more hardwood trees.

As a heating engineer, you’re spot on with your heat pump comments

What's the point anyway when ten times more people in America are all driving v8s and 6 litre cars

Yup, adding ethanol to gasoline is just a poor idea overall. And don't get me started about the misuse of arable land to produce fuel for vehicles. Oh, and all the farm machinery used to produce the crops run on fossil fuel anyway. I saw one analysis that showed that it took a litre of petrol to produce a litre of fuel-grade ethanol. Just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.....

Hmm. So, there's a hell of a lot of tax on petrol, and we'll be using more of it? Nice little earner for the government.

Well done for highlighting this issue. Not many of your fellow KZfaq colleagues seem to have considered its importance.

Well done Jack, few people understand that ethanol has less energy and can be mislead by RON which has nothing to do with energy potential

This is just the start, wait until they start ramping up the amount of ethanol in the mix.

I have stopped using E10, I noticed it didn’t last as long as normal E5

This is old news in the US. We've had E10 for all grades of petrol for years and yes it does cause a decrease in fuel mileage. We also have E85 (85% Ethanol) for vehicles specifically designed to run on it. Many newer vehicles can use it, but it has to be FlexFuel rated. One advantage to Ethanol is it has higher octane, so even though you get worse fuel economy, it can actually improve performance in a FlexFuel car able to take advantage of the higher octane. I'm still not convinced about any real emissions saving because there's also the additional emissions of producing the crops the Ethanol is made from. Not to mention potential increases in food costs because farmland used to grow crops for fuel aren't used to grow crops for food. We still have 100% gasoline available at some stations scattered around the US. I try to use those on my older performance cars whenever I can. Anything late model runs on E10 just fine, but the mileage does suffer.

In the US, E10 has been in use for some time- the claim that it's for the environment has always been dubious. The thing is, the farming lobby is very powerful in the US and has been paying off the legislature to continue the subsidies for ethanol production. So the "savings" is not what it appears in that it's all taxpayer subsidized in addition to the poorer fuel mileage. Given that most of us are taxpayers, we are paying more for the use of ethanol, it's just not at the pump- but via taxes.

I see the mpg levels on my car go down when using E10, I'm seeing around 30 miles less per tank, which nearly offsets the use of using super unleaded!

My car’s mpg computer reading has dropped by about 3-4 mpg.

''The Express probably isn't one of the best papers''...................................good to see the mastery of the understatement is still alive and well in the old country.

Alcohol burns cleaner but also faster. There is a gas station locally that sells ethanol free gas. I can get 380ish miles on a tank of ethanol free and 340ish on E10. Downside is the ethanol free is $1-1.50 more per gallon.

Swapped to Super (it's ethanol free, according the brand's website) on my carburettor 2-stroke moped as E10 isn't compatible and there's no way I can safely process fuel to extract ethanol in a flat! I'd also do this on cars that are less used as the alcohol absorbs water more readily, so fuel sitting in the tank and carb will degrade faster. Like dash-for-diesel's unwanted side effects overall, but as petrol use decreases with the switch to electric ("bolt for battery"?) it will have less impact. I await the endless "Were you mis-sold a battery vehicle?" legal ads. It would be better for the government to set particular targets that engineers and consumers can work towards, than subsidize particular technologies that turn out to be lobbyists' over-promised snake-oil.

I'm of the opinion that many modern petrol engines were never at their best, even on 95 RON E5. My bike used to knock on it on occasion when at low RPM, so I got a remap done with super unleaded instead. The handbook does state that 95 is good enough but I always felt that a compression ratio of over 11 to 1 makes a nonsense of that. Years ago, with motorbikes at least, with anything above 9.5 to 1, 5 star {remember that ?} was advised. I don't know if any bikes newer than my own have knock sensors, as is the case with cars. Had enough trouble when low sulphur diesel came in, as my fuel pump failed. Since then, I tip some mineral two stroke oil in the tank when I fill up with diesel. Esso super is currently ethanol free but there isn't an Esso station near me. I sorned the bike 'til April 2022, brimming the tank with Murco super, after first adding 170ml of Briggs and Stratton Fuel Fit. What a palaver all of it is !

Considering all you've said I guess these high E fuels primarily give the illusion that governments are doing something about carbon emissions and if we don't dig into the bigger story we simply go along with it... Thanks Jack 👍

Go for Esso Synergy Supreme+, it has to be labelled E5, which means upto 5% ethanol, but in most regions contains zero ethanol. The exceptions are Devon & Cornwall, Teeside and Scotland. Info direct from Esso as I am more than interested as I have a motorbike with a plastic tank.

Ive been running E10 for a few months now, in the UK, round town driving my Mondeo is losing up to 5MPG but my Motorway cruising has increased slightly , this has resulted in my old figures of monthly average usage was 26.5Mpg to now 26.4Mpg so the decrease is s minimal its hardly worth mentioning, except for the extortionate TAX we have to pay on fuel, and thats another story !!

Wait until we get E25 forced on us here in the UK within the next few years!! The step up in energy loss and the 100% gain in the hygroscopic nature of the additional ethenol in petrol will be a time bomb for older cars. Even with E10 use a good quality PEA / ethenol stabilising fuel system additive (liqui molly) every month and this will inhibit the corrosive and hygroscopic properties of the ethenol in the fuel and safe guard tanks, pumps, lines and injectors. I am even sure costco fuel has there own PEA cleaner mixed in at the pump and I hope big fuel company's like BP and shell adapt their own chemical package to help drivers. All this carry on with petrol and damaging cars when they could implement HVO diesel with zero compatibility issues and take a massive chunk out of pollutants in the industry (equivalent of going E90 on petrol) over night .... But that would go against the anti diesel rhetoric.

Sticking to super unleaded in my petrol cars, although all of them are e10 compatible. Diesel for the commuting. And getting a new gas boiler before they are outlawed! Maybe a chimney installed if it comes to it 😂

"Too much common sense" indeed, and when we all switch to electric heating and electric cars, how is the grid going to cope with the extra draw? I don't know, fossil fuel power plants maybe? There sure as hell aren't enough renewables to take up the slack.

What you're saying is true about both the Heat Pumps and the E10 but in terms of fuel consumption the major factor on this will always be your right foot. I just did a 450 mile trip in my petrol car and the mpg for the trip was down, there again there was a LOT of water on the road both ways and this probably had more impact than the e10 vs e5 petrol.

Targets for 2030 and 2050 are quite easy to set when terms usually last 4 years. Nobody has a clear idea what solutions should be used so there’s no point setting a timeline other than for show.

Very simply put, and correct. One glaring omission that you could add is, half the world is starving and countries are now using more & more farming land to 'crow' crops for fuel, instead of growing food to eat, the world has finally gone mad!

And don’t forget the effect on garden machinery! Super unleaded is the way forward

Agree with you about E10. However the best fuel is Shell V Power. I drive my wife's Fiat Panda Treking with Twin Air engine. The difference between old unleaded and V Power is 10 mpg more than enough to negate the price difference. Performance is greatly improved. I do not get the same results with other Super unleaded fuels

when we ran alcohol and nitro fuel mix in our flat track bikes we had to almost double the jet size to get enough fuel into the engine

Good question but just to correct the maths, previous fuel (and current super) was E5, so drop in energy of 30% would result in (E10-E5 * 30%) 1.5% overall energy reduction.

I noticed this straight away..I thought a caliper might have been sticking on

I have exactly the same result with my mechanical fuel injected Corrado 16V. It is equipped with the wonderful 16Valve KR engine, the same as to be found on the Mk 2 Golf GTI's. Still has no catalyst and has the lovely k jetronic fuel injection system. I honestly managed to get 8 litres for 100 kilometers, now I am never under 8,5, or even 8,7 rather. Liked your introduction where you are sitting in all the cars! And the nice thing about k jetronic is that you can really influence your consumption as k jetronic is a very regulative system. I know you know what I mean. But that has always been a constant in the Corrado story, and my driving style 100% didn't change ;)I feel E10 also burns more hotter and more skimpy. Cheers from very rainy Belgium where E10 is around for about almost 3 years... Wonder if E-fuels ever will come to the public market AND how it will compare in both terms of consumption as well as how it goes on older cars internals.

I'm seeing about a 5-7% increase, and that's on a hybrid. Debating trying super instead of E10.

Need to get a new gas boiler before they get outlawed😂

That's why I run my car on E5 Super unleaded, the extra outlay off sets the loss in mpg and performance over E10.

I've managed to convert my car to run on vintage Krug...so much cheaper...

I find that using E10 has a very marginal effect on consumption if I'm cruising along a motorway at 60 mph, which where I do most of my mileage. However, if I get into hilly country where I have to use the gears and throttle much more, the effect is much more pronounced.

In simple terms - yes, E10 has 10% ethanol, compared to 5% ethanol in E5, because ethanol is about 30% less power dense than petrol, it means you get ~3% higher consumption compared with pure petrol and 1.5% compared to E5 for same power output. In practice however the difference is very very small. In my experience E85 (85% ethanol) increases fuel consumption by ~10%, but that was in DI engine with "smart ECU"... so who knows. It probably as well delivers 10% less power, so match probably checks out. I have not noticed any difference between E10 and E5, but again maybe there is difference in power. What is slightly sad is that most people don't know it and goverment just sells us basically inferior fuel for exactly the same price, kind of even worse in Europe, where in most countries E85 is standard and it still cost same despite one needing to consume at least 10% more of it. I always thought it is little bit unfair to sell it for same price as if it is same product, if E10 would be 10% cheaper compared proper fuel, then fine... E85 probably should be 50% cheaper to be fair, but we know it won't happen. As for government policy - it always been half baked, for frankly rather raw... they just do these "smoking mirrors" sort of policies, with cool titles and they achieve nothing, because they are not based on any particular science. Or sometimes even if they are... they limit the science in a way which proves their point (selective bias). Good example is diesel cars - government was pushing them for 2 decades, because they have lower CO2... except CO2 is just one of many types of different pollutants and as a whole diesel proven to be more dirty. And they do this every single time. I am surprised that anyone is surprised about it. But in other hand that is why these politicians keeps doing this - they know majority of people are ignorant, they know nobody does fact checking and they get away with it.

Hi my Peugeot 208 1.0 won't even run on e10 it was burning it its a 2014 I'm on the rip of e5 premium and I don't get much mpg with that for me this petrol station situation it's just about getting more money out of people that are already hard up and who can't afford really to run a car

Jack, I see your channel 'Number 27' got a mention in the Daily Express regarding E10 petrol and it's poor economy some of the comments from this episode were also used, I have had my own problems with E10 my wife's car a 2008 Corsa after a couple of weeks of using E10 the engine light came on O2 sensor fault, never been a problem before, cleared the code, came back a week later cleared again told her to switch back to E5 petrol no more problems also running better.

Someone who lives in Denmark - who has a heat pump system - remarked his system did not work when it was very cold. He then has to resort to burning logs or other means to heat his home. Do I trust the government? He has since bought another heat pump system - I don't know if his latest heat pump works better with colder weather. Also 1) How big a garden do you need if it relies on the pipes buried in the ground? 2) The plumbing within people's homes is optimised for gas central heating 3) There would be more equipment outside taking up space.

I've done several full tank trips recently(same route etc) since E10 came in, and as I monitor my MPG closely can vouch for the fact that I am getting between 5 and 8% less MPG than I used to get on E5.This is also compounding the cost due to recent fuel price increases.Lastly is the fuel truly cleaner if you're having to use the same percentage more (5%) as has been increased as a proportion in ethanol!?

I tried this on a tank in my 530i E39 and got 492 miles on a tank. That was purely motorway driving, very interesting video!

I do about 1500 mile a week and track my mpg using Fuelly, I’ve noticed over the last 3 months the mpg has dropped from early 50’s to mid 40’s, a drop of about 5 mpg. May not seem like a lot but with fuel prices being as high as they are it means I am spending about £8-£10 more per tank and getting less mpg so am getting a double hit of loss.

I knew that for along time that alcohol contain remarkably less energy than the same amount of petrol, so it is obvious that the fuel consumption will be higher with E10 than with E5. I had a Brazilian car magazine from around 2010 with an article about the then new Fiat Palio - Fuel consumption with E100 was 40% (!) higher than with E20...

Seeing as it’s 80% value of petroleum then it’s only 80% of 5% as it was already 5% ethanol . Maybe 1 or 2 mpg less .

To be honest, in my other half’s 125i we’ve not really noticed an difference; it’s still hovering around 28mpg. I turn my 130 on super because it just seems a bit happier on better fuel.

I have been running my car on V power for ages. Its E5 instead of E10. And after a few fill-ups it started to run leaner. Not only on the board computer on the dash but even looking at the fuel trims via OBD you could see it was correcting itself to run leaner. So the extra cost of E5 is paid for (and some) bij extra mileage.

I feel its the beeching axe all over again

Yes, it does worsen fuel mileage. Here in the US some stations sell ethanol-free fuel at a premium.

Mate did you just say "it must be advantageous if we are doing it", is that because the Government or the fuel companies say so, how about just because it costs more and makes more profit while making you believe you are helping the planet, rant aside, love this channel

I think the more worrying problem is that it etracts water so possible for it to separate into layers of water and pure ethanol in the fuel tank.

I recently found fueling pumps in my area that offer pure fuel without E10 in it, but only in premium grade fuel! The first time I filled my tank with this fuel, 2012 VW GTI, 14.2 gallon tank my car went more than 160 miles further than it normally did on E10 fuel. I have only put this fuel in my car since. E10 sucks, and I will only go back to it if prices continue to go up!

I’ve known this for some time. If you watch some videos on big horse power turbo cars in the US or Australia which run E85, to gain a cooler burn to prevent detonation, the fuel systems have to be massively uprated to flow a huge amount more fuel as it just isn’t as efficient. I’m continuing to use the super unleaded fuels as they still only contain E5. Going to E10 is the first step on the slippery slope and I don’t think it will be long before the UK follows the USA and we end up with E15 and E30 grades of fuel which are extremely damaging to cars not set up for ethanol. Ultimately the government don’t give a shit because their ultimate goal is to remove petrol and diesel cars from the road completely. 🤷🏼‍♂️

I recently had mainly performance turbo petrol cars. Super unleaded in those generally offers more performance AND better fuel economy. This was proven in comparisons between E5 and E5 Super. Ok, if you have some 1 litre naturally aspirated Dacia then no. But if you have some 2 litre turbo or more you were going to see benefits. I believe it was in a Ford Focus RS and it only 2 MPG on average but enough to help offset the cost of premium fuel. It would be interesting to see the difference between E5 premium and E10, because I would say there is a fair chance it'll be more noticeable. On paper E10 simply has less energy content. Perhaps the gap would be as much as 3-4MPG in certain engines and conditions. For me getting the extra performance is my priority, but I know the car will also go further anyway than on weak sauce E10.

Interesting video Jack, and I think you're right about the Gov't's half-baked thinking on E10. However, regarding heat pumps, your statement that they are only suitable for modern airtight houses is not strictly true. There are circumstances where they work well in older houses too, but there are considerations that have to be made when installing them. We have a Victorian stone-built detached house, which isn't airtight. It has thick stone walls and no insulation in the walls, but it does have a lot of loft insulation. We have 15 large rooms and use a heat pump to provide most of our heating needs in the Winter. It runs underfloor heating in the cellars and oversized radiators in the upper two floors. However, we do combine this with a gas boiler (in a hybrid system) so that the gas takes over when the outside temp is 5c or below, this ensures we only use the heat pump when it is at its most efficient. I realise this solution is not viable for most people, but I think that we have to be careful when making blanket statements that don't hold good for all circumstances.

I sold my K series Caterham at the end of the summer as not too many petrol stations with 97 octane petrol in my area. Considering buying a newer Sigma /duratec seven in the spring

Accidentally put in my 330i e46, runs like shit and I got a engine too lean code and engine management light. Super unleaded is up for review in 2025(if it should go E10 also) and I'm afraid I have a massive paper weight In my possession. Love you are one of the only folk making a point about this.

I have a classic Citroen DS. I filled from nearly empty with E10 as that was all that was available at the time. I noticed the idle speed had slowed- to the extent that it was stalling. I added an octane booster additive at half tank and now it is fine- actually I tiny bit fast because I had adjusted it. Coincidence? it is the only thing that changed and I use the car all the time. I assume the tick-over changed because it was running less efficiently?. Modern fuel injected cars use a crank sensor to govern tick-over so would not notice a change.

Wow that's very interesting. I live in New Zealand and we are generally 5-10 years behind in progress so Ethanol in petrol is only at selected stations. I run a Ford Falcon on LPG here and it also has higher MPG than petrol due to it being less combustible but it is half the price.

Interesting Jack and more bad new is the exponential rise in the wholesale cost of ethanol, which going from 5% to 10% content is having more of an impact than previously.

Well so far I have noticed absolutely no difference in consumption for my trip to and from work. But on a trip to Edinburgh from Somerset I got more miles to the gallon than the previous one. Not a lot, only two, and there are many factors that can influence that result.

One important point Jack. The carbon reduction savings are by law measured on an energy content basis and cover the whole ethanol supply chain. There are also minimum CO2 savings for biofuels used in the U.K. and EU. This keeps out ethanol produced to lower or unaudited standards.

I knew that already. If you have a look at the mpg reader, the difference is quite dramatic. I try to avoid ethanol when I can but it's not always possible.

Very informative. My pop says his 05 Porsche requires high octane alcohol free fuel. Is this correct, and why? Great video, Jack. Keep the glasses. Us glasses guys have to stick together. Regards! Bret

Imagine on e85, my 525e e28 has M3 injectors and a tune, it works so well. It's thirsty, but a 30€ a tank (70l), can't go back. Even the engine oil stays clean.

I have a Twin Turbo V6 Kia Stinger for which 91 octane or higher is recommended. I say recommended because it's not absolutely required. So, here in Quebec, Canada, all gasoline at the pump can have up to 10% ethanol (mandatory government regulations). I've noticed that if I fill my car with 87 octane fuel (regular), I do a lot less kilometers than a full tank of 91 octane (super). So I've come to the conclusion that paying less for regular fuel per litre isn't economical at all. Not to mention possibly being detrimental to my high compression engine. So 91 octane for me from now on.

Well said Sir 👍

I personally drive a fair distance to use E5 vpower whatever is, Shell fuel. It's diabolical.

In the rest of Europe we use E10 since 2018, and yes it uses more fuel. Regarding heath pumps they are not a magical solution, we run them at work and we are going back to gas as the cost of maintenance and break downs removes all the cost benefit of them.

This is a reason I’ll use when someone asks me why I have a diesel. It’s obviously not my reasoning for owning one but now it’s a good excuse to own one apart from the ‘fuel savings’ which are not really savings and it’s £30 a year tax. My reason for owning it is because I got the car cheap!

I've noticed quite a big difference running my 21 year old E38 BMW 7 series because I'm obviously going to the petrol station more often now. I'm just wondering if it affects older type engine management systems ?

If it used to be E5 and now it is E10 of course it will use more.........

If the government says it's good that means it's bad and if the government says it's bad then that means it's good. Past two years has taught me that.

I have noticed that in my Skoda - about 5% worse with E10. I have also had to move my 924S to 99 RON (E5 - super unleaded). Though this has reduced fuel consumption by about 10%. However the fuel companies have decided to gouge their customers by increasing the difference in price between both significantly - a captive audience now that some people HAVE to use super unleaded.

Yes, I was aware that the energy content in E10 compared with E5 could be a few percent down. We’re a few months on since you produced this entry, but now that we are a full winter on from the conversion to E10, I have noticed that the fuel consumption over a few months year on year, for similar travel/weather etc is about 3% higher, which is roughly in line with that fact. The other point to note (notwithstanding the oil price rises) is that the conversion was a back door tax rise, as the excise duty is per unit volume, and not based on the energy content. So if you work out the Treasury’s revenue based on kWh thermal, they automatically benefited from it, even if oil prices stayed the same. As much of the ethanol for E10 petrol in the UK looks like being made from animal grade wheat, it’s anyone’s guess what the effect will be given price rises for all kinds of wheat, and other crops from the farms this year.

YES, I've put £50 into my Mini S to get to & from work, whilst bedding in my engine rebuild. Now, lets just say with older fuels I could go for x2wks easily driving much further then my new current job which is funny enough on the other side of my town aka 3miles. now I've burnt through this £50 worth of fuel. due to my tank being almost empty now, I'm going back to super unleaded fuel

Do you think this basically balances the costs of using e5 over E10? My VW Bora is advised to just take e5 , so now I'm not so disappointed over the higher price. Any opinions welcome. I also saw you can make alterations to certain parts to be able to take E10 on older cars.. is this not really worth it ?

I'm using my daughters 2009 1.25 Fiesta and it runs like crap on E10, won't idle properly, it's gutless and I've noticed the mpg drop by about 10%, I tend to run it on super unleaded now but when you see how expensive it makes a gallon of fuel over £7 you wonder if other forces are at play eg revenue and trying to drive older cars off the road, just look at how easily insurance companies write stuff off now for minimal damage

I had to put regular unleaded in my crappy old Alfa a couple of times recently when super wasn’t available and there was a noticeable difference in economy. Then again, half a tank of V-power cost me £50 last week. I’m not sure that’s a habit I can afford. I’m realistic about it all and realise that being a petrolhead isn’t compatible with the state the world is in. I know I’m going to have to give it up eventually. What’s sad is that, as usual, this makes life harder for millions of ordinary folk who are just trying to get to work, while those who own companies that pump out tonnes of Co2 and swan about in private jets will see bugger all difference.

I have to do a journey of 150 miles several times a week in a 2010 1.8 civic. I have an app to compare fuel prices and have tried different brands and grades. I find BP the best for MPG regardless of grade but the most notable gain is by filling up early morning rather than late afternoon, particularly in the summer. I'm getting 50 mpg brim to brim using BP ultimate (only 10p a litre dearer than premium at a filling station in Swindon) filling up at about 6am. Poke a sausage at that one.

I run a 2002 Audi A4 on E10 and have noticed no change to my fuel consumption.

Have they looked at the big picture here or are they concentrating on emissions of one particular pollutant and ignored everything else? Are we going to see a repeat of the diesel fiasco where we were persuaded to buy them on the merits of lower fuel consumption (and therefore less CO2 production) and were then lumbered with ‘dirty’ vehicles when they woke up to the particulates issue?

I just got my girl friend a 2009 Mercedes A150. It probably can run E10 ok, it's a simple 8 valve naturally aspirated engine and there are no government warnings for this model. But is it worth using it if it consumes more fuel and possibly slightly damages the engine or fuel system?. For the sake of around a 10p saving per litre, I'm not sure. Plus if we did use E10, I would end up worrying and using a fuel additive more often which also costs.

My car has an FSI engine and apparently runs more efficiently on 98+ RON. Does an FSI have higher compression?

What about if you added a fuel additive like Redex to it? Would that work?

Need a calculation comparing the cost of running super v the lost economy of e10. See if it will get picked up by the telly.

Good video. Heat pumps. I have had one in a new house in the far south of england for the past 8 years. It is not so good even in these circumstances. There is anything but instant heat and the radiators never become anything better than lukewarm. It will not work in badly insulated houses or probably in the north of england and scotland where temperatures can get much colder.

Here certain stations have ethanol free I use that whenever possible. Corn lobbyists are a big reason for e10 and e15

This also applies to motorbikes. Been noticing a really significant difference in filling frequency when using e10 Vs e5. I only use v power as it’s a complete waste of time to use e10.