Diesel Heater Running from Portable Power Station

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David McLuckie

David McLuckie

3 жыл бұрын

Well, this is the reason we wanted the power station in the first place.
Jackery Explorer 240 Power Station - amzn.to/39l3o2S
Jackery SolarSaga 100 Solar Panel - amzn.to/3da2fwj

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@tedsamuels3203
@tedsamuels3203 Жыл бұрын
I like this guy, he's honest and doesn't talk in riddles. He said, this little Jackery will run your heater about 6 hrs. Well, I figure maybe 🤔 a bigger Jackery will run it alot longer and get me through the night 🌙 THANKS for being honest and sharing. Now,I'll be buying a couple Jackery's
@jimsarranadventures3005
@jimsarranadventures3005 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David. Thanks for another informative video. My take on a power supply for the heater is two 7amp hour lead acid batteries (14ah) ,solar charger for voltage display and usb output and charging. I use the heater to heat my tent on winter camping trips, and have a small wood burning stove for cooking. Cheers, Jim.
@damianmaynard2592
@damianmaynard2592 8 ай бұрын
Mr McLuckie. Just when you have an idea somebody is already there, and in your case with a fun comprehensive explanation. This is great for camper vans. You can run your fridge and diesel heater from the cheapest jackery power bank , and you can charge the bank on solar. Cold for bear and heat for sleep and drying wet cocks, all on the cheap, my world just got better. Thank you my man.
@KittyKatKamper
@KittyKatKamper 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’ve got the Vtoman 600 and do not want a whole new set up just for a heater. This gives me hope. Just moved to Scotland and planning ahead
@LukefromMansfield
@LukefromMansfield Жыл бұрын
A very helpful video, thank you. I wanted to know if this exact power unit would power a diesel heater, and you have answered that question perfectly.
@toneault7499
@toneault7499 3 жыл бұрын
hello David nice peace of work. and well presented. thank you for all of your continued help. in the running an maintenance of said device . all the best tone
@MyWellnessJourney1
@MyWellnessJourney1 4 ай бұрын
I'm so glad someone finally answered my question as to whether my Jackery 240 could run my diesel heater. It can! Thank you sir!
@eddiefarrell2425
@eddiefarrell2425 2 жыл бұрын
keep up dave, very informal, great info.thanks for sharing
@PaulAlford75
@PaulAlford75 3 жыл бұрын
For the first 7 mins I was thinking "why does 3x 20 = 210?“ due to your magnificent handwriting on the bench
@jeffschmid95
@jeffschmid95 2 ай бұрын
Took forever to find this video, so helpful! Thank you! Excited to hear my jackery 300 should run my DH without issue
@lemonherb1
@lemonherb1 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful video. But I found it after I ordered my Explorer 240 because of the seasonal discount code. My hopes are to use it to run a diesel heater, but that's going to take me a couple of months to buy the heater and other parts to build a system. My plans are eventually to put it all in a roof top box that I can mount to my car's roof and depending on how I run ducts and hoses, it'll be used to heat the car, garage or ice fishing tent Six hours operating the heater is a bit of a disappointment, but this is the only size I can afford for the time being so it'll be a good place to start. I guess I'll have to figure out the run time for having it on half and low power and seeing how it'll be at keeping a tent on the ice warm. But it sounds like I'll probably still run a propane heater probably during the non sleeping hours I'm fishing. As for in the garage, I'll probably get a 12V PSU in the roof top box to run the heater since I'll have grid power available there.
@acmthere3674
@acmthere3674 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the video, just what I was looking for. I want a portable diesel heater and I'm trying to avoid the installation of a secondary battery (perhaps at the end is worth the investment). Regards
@Servoengr
@Servoengr 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos. I've had a lot of cigarette lighter plugs melt. They come in a wide variety of quality, mostly poor. This one looks like it's pretty good though.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
I to was pleasantly surprised.
@dangeroustoman
@dangeroustoman 3 жыл бұрын
Will it run on transmission fluid?
@diwarburton5369
@diwarburton5369 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks.
@CanadianTexaninLiguria
@CanadianTexaninLiguria 3 жыл бұрын
$260CDN in Canada. Thats 150 UKP. I always stay for the 70's game show music at the end;)
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN 3 жыл бұрын
The power Oak couldn't run a diesel night heater off the 10 amp power socket, tested by Mel's Van Life. The Jackery did work just like you demonstrated so they're definitely not all equal 👍
@uptowndisco2
@uptowndisco2 3 жыл бұрын
that was the old model with an unregulated 12 volt out , the newer AC50S does have a regulated output and run a CH just fine , I know as I use the newer one to run mine .
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN 3 жыл бұрын
@@uptowndisco2 I know they started using regulated 12 volt and actually thought the one Mel uses was the newer one but I'd have to go back and check his videos. I know he made a video comparing the Jackery and Power Oak a week or two ago. Anyway I appreciate you replying to tell me yours does work, perhaps I'll check out his video again and mention that 👍
@juliogonzo2718
@juliogonzo2718 Жыл бұрын
Any time I have tried to draw that much amperage out of a cigarette lighter plug it heated the spring up and fried it
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN Жыл бұрын
@@juliogonzo2718 Yeah Julio, I definitely wouldn't recommend it.
@JimLahey21
@JimLahey21 3 жыл бұрын
How long does it take to charge the power station on mains or charge alternator?
@markdrinkall1078
@markdrinkall1078 Жыл бұрын
This is an interresting video. im looking at getting a diesel heater for shed/greenhouse. I dont know if you have done a video on these heaters being run of a 12v battery, how long would a 120ah battery power these heaters on a worse case setting of 40w
@jeremylewis4450
@jeremylewis4450 4 ай бұрын
I work with the German unit's quite a bit and i use edith as a diagnostic measure. The amp drop is your glow plug heating up and the German models are the same values you gave on the video. People pick up this unit and save money. ❤
@jeremylewis4450
@jeremylewis4450 4 ай бұрын
Oh the glow plug probably give you 2.5 to 5 amps on start up and once flame is detected the glow plug shuts off and all you are powering is the blower motor and fuel pump. Think of the turtle vs the rabbit race. It will take just a few minutes to reach operating parameters but one done solar panels can keep the unit going
@tarzanaman666
@tarzanaman666 3 жыл бұрын
Ok now it made me think of the dewalt 20/60/v 9ah running in the converter Will 60v be better going in would it last longer or will the converter just eat your power
@PR31D
@PR31D 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a similar spec portable battery which doesnt have the guts to fire up an 5kw on either its DC or AC with a PSU. I ended up getting a Y cable and connecting the heater to a 3 cell lipo and a lipo charger. The lipo battery handles the starting and stopping current. The charger which is powered from the bank is set to balance charge at 1.4A (depends on heater output setting). A balance charger ramps down its charging current as the battery voltage nears 12.6v. With the load of the heater it never reaches 12.6v so just continuously charges. Not an idea solution but I had the stuff on hand.
@davehimlin2374
@davehimlin2374 Жыл бұрын
so the max it drew was 111 watts during the firing up of the glowplug ? Is this for the 8kw heater ?
@griffith535
@griffith535 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David .. really informative so thanks again ... I am really interested but am wondering how would you go about installing the jackery to ensure it doesn’t run to a point that it doesn’t retain enough power to facilitate the correct suit down cycle? for example if you are using this configuration to run a night heater in a boat ? Kind regards - john
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
That is something we will need to figure out.
@crfsikness
@crfsikness 2 жыл бұрын
Use the timer feature in the heater controller
@trikator
@trikator Жыл бұрын
Would bigger battery booster pack work for this?
@bluffybluff
@bluffybluff 2 жыл бұрын
Great content mate. Would a Jackery be capable of running something like Bobil Vans hot water system too? They're pretty impressive, I'm thinking of getting the 1000 or 1500 and hoping it's all I need to run hot water and a diesel heater. Cheers mate.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Well more yes than no. Occasionally there are heaters that draw more than 10A at startup which trips a portable power supply. But this can usually be fixed by having the low power set lower so it starts slower. Once it's running there is more than enough current left to run the pump for the Bobil Vans water heater. The pump only pulls 0.5A.
@bluffybluff
@bluffybluff 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie Thanks David, much appreciated. Could make a interesting video someday, I don't see any other youtubers testing this out.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 3 жыл бұрын
Portable power combined with portable heat, rather handy stuff if it could be made to last longer (depending on use and requirements of course)... :D
@travhulb6625
@travhulb6625 5 ай бұрын
Love to see if this would work with a bluetti eb3a power station
@martinr4637
@martinr4637 6 ай бұрын
Does the heater really use more than 10 amps for startup? I'm looking for a 110v to 12 volt houe adapter, and not sure if I should get a 10 amp or 15 amp adapter. The 15 amp are much more expensive and common.
@xgouldiex
@xgouldiex 3 жыл бұрын
The lidl 4 amp hour tool batterys seem good and are £25 there getting them in soon
@Chris-yy7qc
@Chris-yy7qc 3 жыл бұрын
What is this jackery?
@andyherod653
@andyherod653 7 ай бұрын
My diesel heater won’t turn on this way. I keep getting the overload error from my Anker 767…
@jazzsounds8159
@jazzsounds8159 8 ай бұрын
What type of connector do I need for the power supply from the heater going to the dc12 to the power station. I have the ecoflow river 2.
@kirk1907
@kirk1907 3 жыл бұрын
David where did you buy your diesel heater from, was looking for one for my garage for working in it at winter,
@BubbaSnipe
@BubbaSnipe 3 жыл бұрын
The 5 KW version is not strong enough for a garage without isolation of any kind unless its a very small garage.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
As Tom said. Uninsulated your losing more heat than the heater can produce.
@obiwan5781
@obiwan5781 6 ай бұрын
Very informative, I just wanted to know more about the cigarette cable and what size fuse you used. Got the allpowers R600 and wanted to power diesel heater with it.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 6 ай бұрын
These are the exact ones I bought - amzn.to/47u8giq
@Cmdurant12
@Cmdurant12 4 ай бұрын
Planning to try this too with the AllPowers R600. How did you get on?
@margmcgill1645
@margmcgill1645 Жыл бұрын
I have a diesel heater and set it up twice but it only stays on for A very few minutes. Can u tell me the correct cord to use from unit to Jackery as I feel this is my problem. I used a 12v cord. Is it different a page????? Nothing in instructions about amps. Thank you for your video.
@alfagunner
@alfagunner Жыл бұрын
Helloooooo....please let me know where you got the part that plugs in to the jackery...the crap one I bought melted. Thanks.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
amzn.to/3BLpUzA Those are the exact ones I ordered.
@connectedevolution
@connectedevolution 2 жыл бұрын
What 12v plug did you purchase? I'm looking for something to connect a diesel heater to a jackery 1500
@jimmyrap6511
@jimmyrap6511 2 жыл бұрын
same here, please let me know what you find
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YXQHLB8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@itzikhillel
@itzikhillel Жыл бұрын
Hey David, do you think the power supply can be connected to the wall while running the heater? I would like to use it for its 12v interface and not start with dapters and wirings. thanks!
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
Some of then can charge and run at the same time.
@itzikhillel
@itzikhillel Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie Will the Jackery do it?
@guydogg34
@guydogg34 2 жыл бұрын
So, realistically, how long on a full charge can you run a diesel heater off of this Jackery Explorer 240? full power for 10 mins on startup, full power on shut down, and low power/fan throughout operation? Thanks for any help you can provide.
@guydogg34
@guydogg34 2 жыл бұрын
I've ran mine for about 16 hours on the lowest fan setting without having to worry about a charge. Takes 110w for about 5 minutes for the glow plugs to get going, and then runs consistently around 10W continuous, and 110w to cool down the unit when you stop it.
@Tripp77
@Tripp77 Ай бұрын
This was the question/answer I was tirelessly searching for; thank you both!
@darakeane38
@darakeane38 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Dave, I have set up my diesel heater using the 240w jackery. I used the 12v plug that came with the jackery but my output doesn't go above 5w. I was wondering what 12v plug did you use or would it matter. I do have. E09 error but that's is probably because the sensor doesn't detect the fan . It doesn't seem to receive any power to start the fan, but it the jackery does work to prime. I won't your the 12v plug be the problem.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Which 12V plug came with your Jackery? Is it one of the small barrel type connections you're using and not a normal 12V cigarette plug type?
@darakeane38
@darakeane38 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie Hi Dave, yes it was the one that is used to charge the jackery from the van 12v. I have also used the main van battery in order to check if it was a power issue. But still the fan doesn't move. I also still get the e09 error. I have also ordered a new cigarette plug, same as the one in your video. its trial and error now to find the issue. I am hoping its not the main motor
@darakeane38
@darakeane38 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie just to let you know the new 12v plug I ordered did the job. It's finally working.
@newfoundlanderoverlander
@newfoundlanderoverlander Жыл бұрын
@@darakeane38 hey which 12v plug would that be?
@darakeane38
@darakeane38 Жыл бұрын
@@newfoundlanderoverlander Hi, I bought this one in Amazon, it seemed a bit stronger. KUNCAN 12FT Car Cigarette Lighter Socket Extension Cable with Male Plug, 16AWG Heavy Duty DC Power Charger Cord with LED Lights, 15A Fused. Not sure if that was the problem, as I also double checked all the connection in the heater. its working fine now and no issues so far
@Mark-bl3wg
@Mark-bl3wg 8 ай бұрын
Hello, how did you get your heater to run on a jackery, I have an explorer 1000 and it won't run the heater? Thanks.
@guy4fawkes
@guy4fawkes 3 ай бұрын
I have a Jackery 2000 Pro and it will not start my Espar gasoline heater. they tell me it requires 14amp at start up and the DC output only outputs about 10amps? How is this video possible?
@naomiobrien3543
@naomiobrien3543 3 жыл бұрын
Could a 105ah Leisure Battery cope with running this heater on and off for a weekend or would I need a bigger battery? Many thanks.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
That size would give approx 20 hours of continual use. Depending on how often you start and stop the heater will reduce the available run time.
@thomasmartin4015
@thomasmartin4015 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, what brand of heater is this running and do you think it would run a lavanar?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
That is one of the many brandless heaters I have. Depending on the tune of your heater will relate to how much power it uses during startup. If it's less than 10A it'll work.
@thomasmartin4015
@thomasmartin4015 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie Thanks Lavanar themselves say it's around 9.8 amps so in there words it won't work. But I get the impression they are been cautious just in case it's slightly higher. Other people appear to have had one working via a powers station
@bobmeyer1854
@bobmeyer1854 Жыл бұрын
I just purchased a diesel heater for ice fishing, I am worried that the 5kw heater might be to big, is there a way to lower it to 2kw if it is to hot for my application? And I bought the 5kw because of the case design it will fit my application the best and it is only offered in 5kw. Thanks
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
You can tune to low side to run low but not as low as a 2KW on low.
@DaciaProject
@DaciaProject 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, are the wires coming out of your cigarette plug thicker gauge than the rest of the wires going to the heater?
@allergic2bull
@allergic2bull 2 жыл бұрын
Mine's are. Not sure why yet tho/
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the wire gauge on the plug is thicker than the heater.
@Doubledown732
@Doubledown732 Жыл бұрын
I have a Jackery 1000 pro. I tried to use it to power my 5kw diesel heater and the Jackery shut off after about 150w output. Any way around tbat or how did you work around that issue? Here is the kicker, I used my Jackery 300 for the same purpose - no issues at all.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
Was it the same heater, same time, same state of charge in the power station? I've noticed it's very much heater and temperature dependant on whether it works or not.
@williamenterline4572
@williamenterline4572 7 ай бұрын
Will a 500 watt jackery be able to startup and run a diesel heater? Just in the dc port?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 7 ай бұрын
Sadly not a yes or no question. Some heaters use more power on startup than others. So while one heater might work, another might not. The Jackery should start most 2KW diesel heaters though.
@frederick6008
@frederick6008 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm surprised the 240 battery handled the 5k heater. 👍
@williammanning8065
@williammanning8065 2 жыл бұрын
Nice test. I would love to get my hands on those wire union connectors. Can you supply the name or link.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
There are these - www.amazon.co.uk/Conductor-Connector%EF%BC%8Cone-Terminal-Connectors-Assortment/dp/B08XZNJS3J/ref=pd_day0_1/258-9429679-4535838?pd_rd_w=BwYvX&pf_rd_p=8ec13b8a-30d2-48fc-8503-84c56766370d&pf_rd_r=V4CBMSF8G0KC9TPGBX9Y&pd_rd_r=02af22de-9a03-478a-a1e2-5a1f1684900c&pd_rd_wg=2CJie&pd_rd_i=B08XZNJS3J&psc=1 And WAGO even started making them as well - www.amazon.co.uk/Connection-Conductor-2-Conductor-Actuation-Transparent/dp/B08X6CPFNR/ref=sr_1_24?crid=7ZN6TD8G77PB&keywords=wago+connector&qid=1644921987&sprefix=wago+connector%2Caps%2C439&sr=8-24
@andrewmarkmusic
@andrewmarkmusic 9 ай бұрын
Weird...I tested mine with the Bluetti EB3a (600watts) and it would not fire up even though the cig. lighter port is rated at 10 amps. How the hell did this ‘lower' unit do it?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 9 ай бұрын
I've noticed through testing that it is depends on both the diesel heater and the power station. Some heaters creep above 10A at start up. On the other hand some power stations the voltage drops off as you near the 10A point. Which means the glow plug doesn't get as hot and the fans don't spin fast enough usually resulting in a non-start.
@andrewmarkmusic
@andrewmarkmusic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! From your experience does the Jackery 500 do the job and last for the night --10 hours (Vevor 5KW)...@@DavidMcLuckie
@guy4fawkes
@guy4fawkes 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewmarkmusic I have a Jackery 2000 Pro and it will not start my Espar gasoline heater. they tell me it requires 14amp at start up and the DC output only outputs about 10amps?
@andrewmarkmusic
@andrewmarkmusic 3 ай бұрын
I solved my start up issues by buying a converter that plugs into the 3 prong AC port. Works every time now and that is only with a 600 watt Bluetti. The problem with the DC ports is they are often only 10Amps. @@guy4fawkes
@mountainpride
@mountainpride 2 жыл бұрын
You ever had any start up issues with the heater taking to many amps for the DC output. I want to get a solar generator but worried about start up. It says the heater can take up to 11.5 amps.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
The heaters I tried all pulled just ender 10A at startup, but I have had other heaters pull slightly more. Sometimes tweaking the low settings in the controller and slowing the fan down is enough to get them under.
@mountainpride
@mountainpride 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie thank you so much.
@FordTransitConnectCamper
@FordTransitConnectCamper 3 ай бұрын
Hi, is the heater 5kw or 2 kw??
@suen2012
@suen2012 2 жыл бұрын
I've a 2kw diesel heater (came with van) connected to leisure battery with crocodile clips. Will this run of my jackary 1000 if the clips are changed to a suir the 12v 10amp socket on jackary?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@jimmyrap6511
@jimmyrap6511 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie What adapter do I need to buy to connect my heater (eyelets) to my bluetti (12v/10amp)? I don't see where to buy the adapter you have
@williamdrummond7687
@williamdrummond7687 5 ай бұрын
could you show us how to connect the jackery to the heater
@edinbojic
@edinbojic 2 жыл бұрын
Hello can I run espar airtronic D3 plus on portable dometic PLB 40 portable battery?
@wanna31
@wanna31 Жыл бұрын
Hi David thanks for the great videos Just wondering if you have run the heater off a ecoflow power bank Thanks Wayne
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
I have not. But assuming it can output 10A at 12V and the heater is tuned to start on less than 10A it should work.
@8rubino8
@8rubino8 Жыл бұрын
Hello i had my heater running with ecoflow river pro And it worked for maybe total of 40 hours in different days .. after it stop working ... i had to change the system and the professional that checked the problem said that it cant be supply by the ecoflow and try with a normal battery and everything was good
@8rubino8
@8rubino8 Жыл бұрын
Ps sorry for my english, i m italian.
@wanna31
@wanna31 Жыл бұрын
@@8rubino8 Hi That seems strange to me did he say why ecoflow couldn't run your heater .Mine ran it perfectly but I've haven't used it for an extended period yet as it's been warm here in the UK. Shall soon find out though lol . Wayne
@danielforrester3039
@danielforrester3039 Жыл бұрын
@@wanna31 What did you decide? Does it run it?
@janetanderson422
@janetanderson422 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David, I watched this video so many times it's been really useful as I'm looking into getting a jackery to power my diesel heater. Could I ask, the cigarette socket male adapter I need to purchase for connecting the heater to the jackery, I've seen some that come with a 15amp fuse or a 10amp fuse. Which fusing would I need for connecting the heater to the jackery? Thanks
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
15 amp. The diesel heaters need about 10A during start so 15 gives it a little margin for error.
@41Fingers
@41Fingers Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie I tried the Vtoman 600x with a 15 amp fused plug and it shuts the station down always in 5 sec. my diesel heater is a 8k
@chriscameron5873
@chriscameron5873 3 жыл бұрын
But would it still fry the diesel heater once it ran out of juice as it has a Lithium (18ah?) battery and as you said would step down in voltage and shut down the heater and not go through its cool down phase?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
That is one of the problems. We need some way of shutting down the heater when the battery is low, as it will output practically the same voltage until it shuts down.
@chriscameron5873
@chriscameron5873 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie So even a vsr on the pump as done previously wouldnt kick in as the voltage would remain stable....until it wasnt....mmmm
@sendintheclowns7305
@sendintheclowns7305 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie What about putting a low voltage disconnect on the fuel pump power wire? If the heater loses fuel does the fan continue to run long enough to cool down?
@mannyfragoza9652
@mannyfragoza9652 2 жыл бұрын
I got the 240 Jackery and the 500 to me its cutting it kind of close with the 240 esp. you going to need the Jackery to run at almost full power when the heater shuts down. I wouldnt hesitate to use my 500 instead of the 240. Right now im using 2, Valence, U1-12RT @ 40 Ah each Lithium batteries.80Ah should run the heater as long as i need before shutting down with out any worries at all.
@Charlemagne1367
@Charlemagne1367 Жыл бұрын
Might be a silly question, but i have no electric knowledge. If a power bank only delivers 12v 7.5a can i use it to run a boost converter 12v 15a to get a diesel heater running ?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
It's my understanding that a boost converter only ups the voltage not the current.
@marijuana5312
@marijuana5312 2 жыл бұрын
How much power did you need left to shut it down? Did you do that ?
@janetanderson422
@janetanderson422 2 жыл бұрын
I've read elsewhere that it's roughly the same power as it is to start up.
@cash2.0
@cash2.0 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Jackery 300. I will try it on my 5kw diesel heater. I believe Jackery's have a regulated 12 volt outlet.
@CallaFab
@CallaFab 2 жыл бұрын
Did your Jackery run the 5k? My Ecoflow Delta goes into overload.
@21se7en2
@21se7en2 2 жыл бұрын
@@CallaFab hey same thing here i also have ecoflow. and it keeps saying undervoltage" on my diesel heater. but if you would buy the $14 12v to AC power supply and just use the AC outlet of the ecoflow, it will just work fine.. im goin to different route and probably just have a 20ah Lipo with solar for a standalone diesel heater.
@CallaFab
@CallaFab 2 жыл бұрын
@@21se7en2 I ended up making a 12volt pigtail. Heater plugs into it, then the adapter Y's off to the ecoflow and a battery. This provides enough amps to start/stop the heater and the ecoflow keeps the battery topped off as well. No reason to 'waste' power running an additional AC power supply. I found this works perfectly fine.
@USMCKidProductions
@USMCKidProductions 2 жыл бұрын
How long did it end up running your 5kw Diesel with your Jackery 300??
@cash2.0
@cash2.0 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my 8kw (same as the 5kw) all-in-one. So, now I have 2 diesel heaters. I ran it today off the Jackery 300. It pulled close to 140 watts at the peak with the fan on high and the glow plug on. Once the glow plug went off with the fan at full speed and up to max temp it pulled a constant 51 watts. At the lowest temp and the glow plug off it drew 11 watts. So, how long it will run depends on how high the heater is turned up. I left the Jackery plugged in so there was no battery depletion. The Jackery 300 had no problems supplying the DC amps.
@Mewltow
@Mewltow Жыл бұрын
Hi. Do you have any idea why my poweroak ac30 won't run the heater? It's 10amp and had more wattage than the jackery 240? Thanks
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
Are you trying from a full charge?
@robmyles2410
@robmyles2410 Жыл бұрын
I want to do this instead of running a leasure battery in my van. My diesel heater is currently connected to my car battery. How do I connected the connector that plugs into the unit on the wires from my leasure battery. Do they require soldering?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
You could use crimp connectors or a screw type block connector if you didn't want to solder. Just need to make sure the connector is rated for over 10A.
@daz.j
@daz.j 2 ай бұрын
so how long would a 110 lesure batterie last
@eivindlindefjell5602
@eivindlindefjell5602 3 жыл бұрын
Can you put all this diesel heaters from 12volt to 24 volt ? Or do you need to scange any glowplug or something?? Like all your video from norway
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
You can change the settings from 12V to 24V but the glow plug would need to be 24V as it throws an error if you try to use the 12V.
@eivindlindefjell5602
@eivindlindefjell5602 3 жыл бұрын
Ok i tryed 1. But bo error code. But the glowplug cracked
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean you want to run one on 24V? If so the glow plug, fuel pump and fan motor all need to be the 24V version.
@eivindlindefjell5602
@eivindlindefjell5602 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie how do you know what it is when not market on any ? You can scange over in meny
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
The fuel pumps and fan motors usually have the voltage written on them. Not sure about the glow plugs.
@jon964
@jon964 2 жыл бұрын
How long can the diesel heater work on this portable power station? EcoFlow river mini Capacity 210Wh DC Output 12.6V 10A
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
About 50 hours by my maths. Approx 40W running divided by the 210Wh. Minus a bit for startup and shutdown.
@yowgyrl
@yowgyrl 2 жыл бұрын
What are those connectors called and where do I get them and the 12 v plug?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Amazon. Wago also now make a version of the connectors which were a copy of a different Wago connector. www.amazon.co.uk/QitinDasen-Lever-Nut-Connectors-Conductors-Combination/dp/B08B3XG63X/ref=pd_day0_6/258-9429679-4535838?pd_rd_w=2K9QH&pf_rd_p=8ec13b8a-30d2-48fc-8503-84c56766370d&pf_rd_r=T01QTZBGDYV6A1379JDB&pd_rd_r=5925fc20-589d-4154-ae50-c317eed0666a&pd_rd_wg=p6FCo&pd_rd_i=B08B3XG63X&psc=1 www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YXQHLB8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@xavior718
@xavior718 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought an 8KW diesel heater. Using my Jackery 500 via the car jack. The jackery shows the heater pulling up to 130W on startup but then E-01 comes up and shuts off every time. I don’t know what to do now.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
130w is just under 11A so slightly too much current draw. You could try tweaking the settings for a slower fan speed on the low settings.
@savedby_faith
@savedby_faith 5 ай бұрын
Im interested on the wiring and what i need to buy. I have no knowledge of wiring at 61 year old grandma. I have a 300w jackery and a 300w inverter although the inverter is not a puresign wave.
@southwestlondoncarp4313
@southwestlondoncarp4313 Жыл бұрын
I have ordered a all powers 300 watt power station I wonder if it will power my 5 kw heater if not I will have to get a leisure battery.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
All I can say is it might. Depending on the heater, and on the temperature of the batteries. Failing that a main to 12V transformer is cheap, and the losses are pretty low.
@southwestlondoncarp4313
@southwestlondoncarp4313 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie thank you.
@StevenDavisPhoto
@StevenDavisPhoto 6 ай бұрын
10amps wasn't enough to power my heater. It uses about 11 amps on startup. Had to get a DC-AC converter with 15amp max to make it work.
@guy4fawkes
@guy4fawkes 3 ай бұрын
I have a Jackery 2000 Pro and it will not start my Espar gasoline heater. they tell me it requires 14amp at start up and the DC output only outputs about 10amps? How is this video possible? Same issue as you also already trying your idea. Waiting on the AC-DC converter to arrive.
@StevenDavisPhoto
@StevenDavisPhoto 3 ай бұрын
@@guy4fawkes I have a lavaner pro heater. I was able to make it work just off 10 amps by allowing the heater to go in low voltage mode for a longer time before cutting off. Changed to 3 minutes instead of 2. That works.
@guy4fawkes
@guy4fawkes 3 ай бұрын
@@StevenDavisPhoto I'm not sure the Espar has that ability but I'll defintely look into it with the manufacturer. Thanks!
@Yankeeprepperasshat
@Yankeeprepperasshat Жыл бұрын
Really the best way is go online to a rc hobby store and order a 4s lipo and a charger. If you want to save money, take the computer power supply out of an old/free computer tower. They typically range between 300-600 watts. Plenty of power for this application, and absolutely free.
@oluja95cro
@oluja95cro Жыл бұрын
What is heater kW? I have 5000kW but i don´t think it could ber used on 10A outlet.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
The 5KW is the heat output. The heater itself running only uses at worst about 150W during startup.
@Justrandomstufffrommarkmiller
@Justrandomstufffrommarkmiller 10 ай бұрын
Would my goal zero 200 x be able to run it also what diesel heater is that
@billienomates1606
@billienomates1606 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, Can I run a diesel heater off a car battery whilst charging the battery at the same time ?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@billienomates1606
@billienomates1606 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie Many thanks.
@christopherguy1217
@christopherguy1217 3 жыл бұрын
Another option is to go to your auto parts store and buy a 50Ah deep cycle battery for a fraction of the cost and connect it directly.
@Chris-yy7qc
@Chris-yy7qc 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I did.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
True. But we've done that one and people asked if a portable power station would run the heater.
@timfish
@timfish 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie and most "deep cycle" lead acid batteries will only do around 500 80% discharges. A lithium battery should do more like 2000-3000 so it might actually work out cheaper in the long run to go lithium...
@Chris-yy7qc
@Chris-yy7qc 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie Dont get us wrong. We really appreciate your effort! I guess Christopher only wanted to point out that alternative solution for people who didnt watch all your videos (shame on them!). :-)
@bertsbug
@bertsbug 3 жыл бұрын
I killed 2 used deep cycle batteries I used for years running led lights. Running my Chinese heater in my garage. Heater is awesome but I need to tinker more with it.... I just got a jackery 240 but was not thinking for the heater but wow cool
@tomfrengillo9671
@tomfrengillo9671 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Planar portable diesel heater that i run from my 12v connection on my Jackery 1000W power station. It is a 2kwh heater. Upon start up it draws maybe 8 amps for a minute, and on the low setting less than 1 amp. I’d suggest you’d get more than 6 hours on that smaller Jackery. I’ve been using the heater for a year with a heavy duty cigarette plug and it’s been great.
@acmthere3674
@acmthere3674 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, I'm trying to buy the portable planar and I can't find the place, always above 5kw. Could you share where did you get it, please? Many thanks
@tomfrengillo9671
@tomfrengillo9671 2 жыл бұрын
@@acmthere3674 Planar Heaters and Expedition Upfitters are both in Canada. Expedition is an approved reseller for Planar, or you can go direct to Planar. I also found a USA company that got into the market. Seems about the same type of solution, lower price point for now. I have no experience with them though. But these things have jumped in price dramatically, so shopping for options isn’t bad. There is a KZfaq channel called Keegan Builds who has started making these as well. Looked like a very high quality design but he wasn’t in production when I was ready. Happy to give feedback on the 2kw unit, feel free to reach out. Good luck.
@acmthere3674
@acmthere3674 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomfrengillo9671 many thanks for your prompt reply, very kind. I'll check them. Regards
@derweibhai
@derweibhai 3 жыл бұрын
What about a video relocating the heat sensitive components outside the case?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea actually.
@kelvinapted7032
@kelvinapted7032 Жыл бұрын
Can you connect the deisel heater to a battery charger and not use a 12 volt battery ?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
If you have a 'dumb' charger that can output 15A, then yes.
@alexanderstevens882
@alexanderstevens882 Жыл бұрын
Quick question is it possible to start the heater with a car battery and switch to a power station with a switch??
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
I would have thought so. I might add that to the test list. :)
@alexanderstevens882
@alexanderstevens882 Жыл бұрын
Would like to see that if it’s easy to set up it would mean a longer run time with a power station
@eivindlindefjell5602
@eivindlindefjell5602 3 жыл бұрын
Good movie. Diesel heater are 5kw or ??
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
That's the 5KW.
@UEE-kj6ek
@UEE-kj6ek 2 жыл бұрын
i have a jackery 500 but after i started my heater and the fuel pump kicked on i got a E01 error code for low voltage, do you know why that would happen? I think i have a 8kw heater, is it too much for the jackery? Thanks
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. First thing is there's no such thing as 8KW heaters, they're just mis-sold 4-5KW, but that's a whole other topic. Could be your wiring is causing a voltage drop at high load, lots of the heaters come with undersized wiring. Other possible reason could be the low setting on the heater is too high.
@UEE-kj6ek
@UEE-kj6ek 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie yeah i figured the 8kw was a scam lol thanks, back to the drawing board
@philipp1767
@philipp1767 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I love the idea of a power station. The comparison with a tool battery appears a little off except over price. Surely a comparison with a venerable jump start pack would be a more likely one. It too portable and similar capacity
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean compare a tool battery to a jump pack? That could be a thing.
@desendean6488
@desendean6488 Жыл бұрын
Hi there , you have probably been asked and talked about how do you go about putting a 12 vault connection on the diesel heater ? . All diesel heater s come with positive and negative battery wire's instead of the 12 v connection to plug into the battery pack
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 12V plug off Amazon and put it on. This is the one I use - amzn.to/3Ug8Mt0
@desendean6488
@desendean6488 Жыл бұрын
OK cool , is it straight forward to swap the connection ? Thanks
@41Fingers
@41Fingers Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie I use this amozon plug too, but is not working on my 8k heater with a vtoman 600x fyi
@allergic2bull
@allergic2bull 2 жыл бұрын
I am having a time trying to set mines up like this. When plugged to the Jackery 1000 and powered on, 5k heater display lights up, motors/fans kick in, then display flickers for a minute then the whole thing cuts off. But when plugged into van 12 volt plug, heater works. Unfortunately I can't just leave the van on and run it this way as it defeats the purpose. I'm speculating reasons as to why it's not working but I need solutions more than I need reasons.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Odd. The 12V output on the Jackery and most portable power supplies is 10A. Unless your heater is one of the oddballs that manages to pull more that 10A at startup, which it sounds like that's what it's doing. Sadly.
@allergic2bull
@allergic2bull 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie Wondering if I get a 12volt to AC adapter and just plug it into the AC port on the Jackery will it work then? Would it pull like a regular heater (too much and kill my battery quickly) or pull less since it's technically still a 12 volt heater with typically low wattage. May have to try this. Cause my next move is selling the darn thing cause I can't use it. Thanks for the reply btw, 🙂.
@hoannguyen-re4zm
@hoannguyen-re4zm Жыл бұрын
I have the same issue at the moment. Bought a 8kw all in one diesels heater from eBay, wired it up to male 12v 15am cigarette and trying to run it on jackery 1000, the fan start up for about 5 seconds then the battery sign on the diesel LCD display start flashing. It’s giving me erro code E-2. Did your get the AC - Dc adapter ? And does it work ?
@themoabpearl5711
@themoabpearl5711 6 ай бұрын
Yep, same problem, the support folks for Espar said to ignite it will spike over 10 amps and that trips the Espar heater causing E2 error. It's a brief draw, but you need it. I just wired to the house battery because the heater will automatically shut off if it senses voltage drop, so you will never be stranded. @@hoannguyen-re4zm
@888johnmac
@888johnmac 3 жыл бұрын
very interesting .. i can't help but wonder how this would compare to trying to run heater on a generic 12v jump-pack ( i doubt many could sustain the 8amps from their cig lighter )
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
I have run a heater off a jump pack before just out of curiosity. Perhaps I should film that as a test as well.
@NuManXplore
@NuManXplore 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie Did you make a video of this yet?
@msarros1
@msarros1 Жыл бұрын
Hi David what diesel heater did you use for the video? Thank you.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
An absolutely random brandless 4KW body heater. But it is running an Afterburner controller though.
@gnomiefirst9201
@gnomiefirst9201 2 жыл бұрын
Heater, 20L fuel can, battery, solar panels etc. Battery has maybe 500 charge cycles if it is kept above freezing and below (?) temp and never totally drained or overcharged? Anyway thank you for all your work. I have come to conclusion to forget about all of the above and just get 2000 watt generator/inverter and electric heater. The out of pocket expense, longevity, maintenance and required dedicated space in a vehicle for diesel heater et al don't seem to make as much $$$ sense as generator/inverter. Open to being convinced I am wrong. Cheers.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Your argument is sound. Without knowing the usage scenario I can't say which I'd pick if I was doing what you're doing. The only thing I would add for consideration is fuel cost/consumption. Assuming a petrol/gasoline generator to be 30% efficient and it also having a 20L tank, 6L would be usable energy for the electric heater and 14L would be exhaust heat and noise. A fuel burning heater is nearer 80% efficient so out of your 20L tank 16L would be converted into heating. But of course you still need to power the heater. A single 110AH deep cycle battery will run a heater for over 24 hours on a charge.
@Garry.Anderson
@Garry.Anderson 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder....could you get enough power out of a Peltier plate(s) to offset the draw from the fan when up to temperature? Think stove fan on steroids!? You would obviously need an additional supply to get it up and running, but if you could generate enough energy from heat...the thing could run forever!
@thelawman
@thelawman 3 жыл бұрын
Can it jump start
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@steveffuksake
@steveffuksake Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you sort it out before doing the video
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
Sort what?
@steveffuksake
@steveffuksake Жыл бұрын
All the information
@petecoventry6858
@petecoventry6858 2 жыл бұрын
And i run my heater on a 200ah renogy Lifep04 battery indefinitely - even only with 600w solar
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Are those Renogy batteries good? I get bombarded with Instagram adverts for them.
@Skypager_TFTC
@Skypager_TFTC 3 жыл бұрын
Can the Jackery be hooked up to a Victron 220-12V converter and run the heater endlessly when camping while connected to wall power?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say no. In the manual it says it can charge and be used at the same time but it's not recommended. I'm guessing it's to do with the battery maintenance trying to charge and being used at the same time.
@Skypager_TFTC
@Skypager_TFTC 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidMcLuckie Thanks for checking David. With a normal 12v battery the above would be possible, am I right?
@sprinterdiscovery
@sprinterdiscovery 3 жыл бұрын
You can power the heater using a Victron 12V-15A IP65 battery charger actually. I've tested running my Espar D2 heater which is connected to my van starter battery, which in turn is connected to my Victron plugged into wall power. With this setup you could run your heater, charge your jackery (if you have one) while connected to wall power - let's say you're camping and you have power access, or you are parked on your driveway and run an extension cord to your house. I haven't tested connecting the Victron directly to the heater bypassing the battery but in theory it should work.
@GG-tf3tr
@GG-tf3tr 3 жыл бұрын
All powers solar generator runs a diesel heater on tick over all night no problems
@advnturerob8899
@advnturerob8899 2 жыл бұрын
So in your opinion, can a 2kw diesel heater running on a low setting off a Jackery 240, run for 8 hrs including shut down mode?
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie Жыл бұрын
I've just realised you said 2KW. Another viewer got 16 hours run time at lowest setting at what I'm presuming is a 2KW heater going by the numbers.
@Mewltow
@Mewltow Жыл бұрын
Just for everyone info. A poweroak ac30 with a 10amp 12v socket won't keep my 8kw labelled 5kw heater running past the combustion stage.
@41Fingers
@41Fingers Жыл бұрын
and my 8k heater will not run with a vtoman 600x and 15amp plug
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 3 жыл бұрын
if it is not been moved about 2x 110ah leisure batterys would be better longer run time and cheaper some places you may even get a 3rd battery
@naomiobrien3543
@naomiobrien3543 3 жыл бұрын
Would a 110ah leisure battery in itself be enough to power these heaters?
@1981dasimpson
@1981dasimpson 3 жыл бұрын
@@naomiobrien3543 depends what other loads you have and how long you wont it to run remember 1x 110 ah battery is only 55ah as you dont want to take them below 50% battery discharge
@andrewtitcombe8378
@andrewtitcombe8378 2 жыл бұрын
9amps for 1 minute each time the diesel heater starts up or stops. So it is better to keep the heater running slowly at 1anp than it cycling on and off more frequent than every 18 minutes. in low mode the heater draws 1amp. at full speed its 2.7 amps. This is why it;s a good idea to go for a 2kw in a small camper van than a 5kw. Also the jackery has a boost converter to lift the Lion batteries that would be 11.6v at full charge up to 13v. As the batteries voltage drops steeply at the end the boost converter will need to pull more current to maintain the 13v until the current limiter will suddenly cut out the 13v Supply. As you say this would be bad for the heater as it will suddenly lose power without a chance to go through cool down. It would have been nice if you had proved or disproved it. Diesel heaters are designed to run off lead acid car batteries, So that they can detect a battery low voltage 11.6amp at glow plug startup. And then just shut down without injecting fuel. And while running the heater will detect a low voltage and go through it's shut down sequence.
@DavidMcLuckie
@DavidMcLuckie 2 жыл бұрын
Oh we've been through that one a lot in other videos. There is no auto shutdown on low voltage on these heaters (none of the ones I have). They plough right on down to 9V and then stop dead.
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