lmao i know right. maybe he means the crappy 6.4

Stinky Potatoes no kidding it's a 6.0

Stinky Potatoes Did you think he knew about ford when he started praising the cummins? I didn't think so

I agree

Yes they do make it, it's the 385 engine. It's 370 cu in which is 6.06321 Liters, so you would round it out to 6.1.

Thanks John!

That's a heavy load👍😳

patugejv I know your gas mileage is not very good lol

Awesome-Thank you!

Thanks for the advice and direction!

or buy a old one. my 12valve doesn't miss a beat.

True!

@@Bearclaw_Jake yeah buddy. Don't forget the killer dowel pin fix.

What a best diesel truck for me and what year. It’s going to be my forever truck I want good mpg not really going to tow but a four wheel camper

@@migueltorresmrgold5050 shoot, depends on what you want and how much you want to spend... older engines are better, cheaper cost to operate, more reliable ect but will have less power.

That is awesome😄

Wise decision, the 6.2's are strong engines and much more cost effective then the 6.7's

I definitely agree with you. If you dont haul equipment, material, resources, or anything else that is heavy. A gas engine truck should be enough. Such good advice

Wow. Great info😄👍

Don Olypopper The main issue on the 6.7L now is that they can't breathe. What I mean breathe? its all the dpf, egr, and scr where the soot cannot escape, but gets clogged on the exhaust filter. When people ask me about the 6.7L I tell em that if you want to get one, get but you have 2 options. 1)don't delete the system yet until the warranty expires. 2) flush the warranty down the drain, and get it dealerproof. With these new trucks these day and the EPA, or the gov't putting so much regulation and restriction on diesel drivers and not to mention the manufacturers, that these trucks won't last couple hundred thousand miles. I still have my 02 f350 7.3L its just rolled over 450K miles. I know I was talking trash about the 6.0L powerstroke. the reason why is that in 03 to 04 those years thats when egr coolers and oil coolers would fail, and fail big time. later in 05-07, Navistar finally got it right and they are good. But for safe and secure feeling I still delete my egr cooler so that the coolant wouldn't be going into the exhaust system, but rather go back into the engine where it suppose to do its job. I hope this helps out.

Don Olypopper very true. The thing is with ford is that the 6.7 is the first ford engine that ford design and made. Previous powerstroke was made by navistar, and they also produce the international fleet motors. Ford should had known that when creating and making diesel motors that it needs to be strong. Thats why you see more cummins out on the road. many cummins 12 valve and 24 valve don't use long arm rockers arm like the powerstroke have. plus they are thin to so high possibility of bending or have total catastrophic failure. I love cummins but hate the dodge cab design. I've been searching like crazy to maybe one day might do a total cummins conversion. but many vids and other post after everything is all said and done, it all goes back in programming the ecm so that you won't be having CEL on. Here in Texas an probably other states that if the CEL is on, it will not pass.

Don Olypopper Ya one of my good friends just got themselves a 16 powerstroke. I told them they better keep up with the maintenance on it. if you slack of any kind, it will hurt your pocket book.

you guys are tripping unless you delete the emissions you will have problems on any diesel no matter the brand they dont belong there and are literally destroying the engine progressively its a epa obama scam, once emissions are deleted the ford 6.7 is by far the best by a huge margin and are completely bulletproof the only thing they did wrong was use ceramic ballbearings which cant handle the power they updated that in 2015 they make more power than any of the other 3 which is a huge deciding factor for me we deleted it and have had 70k trouble free miles in 4 years we got in an accident where a police officer ran a stop sign and we tboned him dead on at 50mph completely totaled his car knocked him unconcious and sent him to the hospital we had a dented bumper we sat in the truck with the a.c. running in 97 degree miami summer heat for 3 hours while a investigation was done and then drove away with no problems these are the best trucks on the road without a doubt and the 6.7 is the most reliable and powerful by far. you just can have emissions on them or any other diesel engine period they are not supposed to be there.!

Sounds like your getting some good miles out of it.

Nah 6.1 LOL

haha!

If there was a fast engine in the f450 or Ramsey 3500 or chevy or gmc 3500 they would never be able tow what they can tow. They get better miles to the gallon and if properly maintain will go for 1million+ miles. Gas motors are way cheap to maintain though.

Great points Scott.

Very true!

I would call it the best diesel. I wouldn't even call it the best diesel ford engine. The 7.3, 6.6, and 5.9 are the three best diesels ever made.

+Dodge 318 Cummins wouldn't*

+john d The 6.0 was made with emissions control and diesel's aren't meant to be restricted... That's why it has the trouble people complain about and the 6.4 was made to throw away so international could get out of contract with for and emissions control was on that to...... Any new diesels will suck because of emissions control weather it be cummins, duramax, or powerstroke.

+I'm A Blue Collar Son no the 6.0 was not made with emissions crap it came out in 2003 way before emissions started.

+john d The 6.0 is a horrible engine.

Nice way of making extra money. Clever.

asdf

asdf I have two of them I'm here to say I tried to blow it for 3 years one I just got my licance now I run it normal I haul with weakly 32 foot trailer not a fast truck but a hell of one

asdf that's one of the best motors ford ever made

You mean the "best 6-cylinder ever made" if you ignore every GM 6-banger ever made, AMC/Jeep 4.0-liters and most 6-poppers ever made by companies that weren't Ford Motor Company? That "4.9 I-6". Yeah. It's great that by the early to mid 1960s Ford was able to make a "good" 6-cylinder. Hooray. Impressive as hell. Of course a lot of them were built with shitty fiber timing gears that liked to spontaneously disintegrate, their torque and horsepower output per unit of displacement was pretty piss-poor compared to a Chevy 292 or any of the other dozen or so Chevy/GM 6-cylinders made before Ford finally figured it out. And Ford was as "thrifty" with them as other supposedly "superior" and "bulletproof" powertrain components like the vaunted 9-inch rear axle since both were really only used in Ford's lightest-duty trucks and passenger cars. So there's no heavy-duty use to judge them by to really determine just how "heavy duty" and "bulletproof" they really are. Especially since it took Clifford Performance and Currie Enterprises to create at least 75% of the "performance reputation" they have, which isn't really that large outside of some narrow niche "markets" and "communities". And most of the praise they get, again like the 9-inch, has come from magazine article authors and editors and "automotive enthusiasts" who tend to "farm out" all their real mechanicking to professionals who tend to be much less impressed by 300 6-bangers and 9-inch rear axles than the "enthusiasts" who love everything about them except working on them. And they both have in common that by the time Ford "invented" them several other companies had already done all the hard work, had installed them in many vehicles and in most cases had both 300ish cubic-inch six-cylinders and drop-out center section (commonly called removable carriers and pretty much standard in medium-duty and heavy-duty trucks for the biggest part of a century just like inline OHV six-cylinder engines were common as dirt for decades before Ford made one) rear axles in a lot heavier-duty vehicles than Ford ever did. I've got a '72 Chevy C20 3/4-ton 2wd "heavy duty" pickup (HD coil springs front and rear) that from the factory had a 250-cubic-inch inline 6-cylinder, a TH350 trans and an Eaton HO52 rear axle (coil-spring axles are HO52s and leaf-spring axles are HO72s) with a DROP-OUT CENTER SECTION and 4.56 gears. As far as I know, Ford never put a 9-inch in any pickup "heavier" than a 1/2-ton and put Dana front and rear axles (even Twin Traction Beam "IFS" axles are an oddball Dana 44) in its "heavy-duty" pickups. I've HEARD OF a Ford "Hi-Boy" that supposedly had a "factory" 6-cylinder in it but when my uncle bought it there was a 390 under the hood just like his other '76 F-250 FWD "hi-boy" had. But yeah, I'm sure when your engine choices in a Ford light-duty pickup or car was a gas-hog Y-block 292 or 352 or a "4.9-liter" (its a 300-six if you're not a noob "auto enthusiast" who thinks "metricizing" every American engine makes you sound more sophisticated and intelligent) inline 6-cylinder that might have gotten 20 mph on a really good day instead of 8-12, that 300 six was a real winner. Of course there are also tons of "300 six-cylinders" out there that are actually 230-cubic-inch Ford inline 6s or even 200-cube six-bangers Ford "gurus" call 300s because that's the only Ford 6 they "known", but that's beside the point.

This guy really should go out and get some sun! Always so negative, I really feel for him. Seems to have some sort of god complex. I guess in his little world everything he owns is the very best ever made! Everything else is junk! Hell I even bet his daddy owns this playground!

AmazonBoxie ....ummm go look at the cubic inches??? Sorry but engineers round up but who would you wanna trust? Keyboard warrior or some one with experience

Nah, amazon is right. Its a 6.0. It says it right on the fender.

adam courtney lmao that's it right there "they say it on the fender" must mean it's true?? Not saying it's a huge difference but look at the ci or the cc they produce some are over and under not exact like the badge. I've worked on many motors and im not a mechanic but I know this is true

Sorg616 weell again look it up... 5954cc ?? Any way... not 6000cc

I am not debating that engines don't have a deviation from their advertised engine size but i am debating the fact that it is not called by name, or by dimension a 6.1L. A little under or a little over it still is a 6.0 to the nearest whole number as well as manufactured documentation.

Cool!

I have a few Cummins. No problems at all either.

True! It is made by IH

Cole Everett one problem ford had with the 6.0 is they used 7.3 parts when they needed to use more heavy duty parts 7.3 FOR LIFE!!

that or the 5.9 cummins

ThatFordGuy69 true I do admit that I like the older Cummins trucks

1st off there is no 6.1 PS diesel. 2nd the 6.0 and 6.4 were both international. 3rd the 6.0 and 7.3 share no parts .

Marcus Mar i have a 1997 f250 lariat edition. its got the triton 5.4 lt v8 and its gas. the damn thibg has 244,600 miles on it and it just keeps running amazing

So glad it isn't illegal in my state. only thing you NEED is a catalytic converter but no one would ever know because there aren't emissions.

+Sundown audio my had a dodge 1500 with 437,000 when we sold it

Marcus Mar Got a 2012 pete 389 longnose ext hood. Had the emissions deleted, and my truck runs so damn good. Fuck the EPA. Their damn bullshit does harm not good

Joshua Stevens best thing you can do to an emissions compliant is to make it NOT emissions compliant. Sadly. The emissions equipment absolutely kills reliability and fuel economy, your truck is better off with out that junk!

Yes- sorry my bad.

TNOutdoors why do people keep mentioning he said six one you know he meant sick so leave it alone

+Kyle Gibson Good engines!

+Kyle Gibson It's except, not accept in the context you use. Anyway, I have had three 7.3 diesels, and they were good but for one that had a turbo that was spraying a fine oil mist through the engine compartment. I now have a Duramax in my 09 Chevy Silverado LTZ; great performance and would pull your trailer off its foundation I'll bet.

I have a similar combination.

that goes for the 6.4 6.7..goto powerstrokehelp.com you can get all the information you need, ,,,me 550 7.3l 6 speed goes for ever on a tank

Good to know.

I know this is old, I also had my 6.0 done by Bulletproof. Best thing ever. Love the 6.0 now.

hahahah Yes! 😂

The 6.0HellNo. 😂

Ethan Williams chevorlet are mostly rock solid in my opinion had 2004 z71 5.3 lasted 280,000 miles then it needed and oilpump then we got to 340,000 and I put a water pump on it sold it to a buddy of mine for 4,000$ 2 years ago he used it for the same purpose I did to travel truck now has 480,000 miles and hasn't skipped a beat oil changed every 5,000 miles with penzoil 10w30

I had 97 K 1500 regular cab short bed that has 215000 that I plowed with the last few years and it runs great. I did the typical fuel pump and brake lines but other than that I never had any issues and that truck pushed snow better than most three quarter ton trucks. I also have a 2008 duramax dually with 280000 on it that I just had the chassis sandblasted and Marine epoxy coated and in the spring the body work is getting done. If that truck was a gas job I wouldn't be putting that much money into it but around here in CT a rust free diesel truck commands a high price regardless of mileage so I know that I can run the truck 5 years have 320000 miles on it and come out ahead.

Daniel Hines

300,000 is the norm for 5.3. Most people i know with these trucks are at the range right now still going. Mine has a 147,000 on it so plenty of life yet

5.4 Tritons are also bulletproof engines as long as you maintain it properly I love this engine tows insane loads easily for a gas engine these things do better at towing than a 5.3 there more of a rival to the 6.0 but I have experience with 5.4 5.3 6.0 4.3 and in my opinion GM's really like to piss everywhere it's like a common thing that gm engines leak easier than fords

Toofless Mack like spend 5 grand to bulletproof it! 7.3 or 6.7 is the way to go

this is true but if ya run er low enough shouldn't have to many issues i think we would all be good if we just threw cat diesels in pickups still have yet to see that day

Toofless Mack I'd love that!

***** I'm trying to find a cat diesel for my 79 f350 dump

Toofless Mack that would be sweet, I've found a few motors but to expensive to justify

So true!

Romppai's Outdoors yes newer trucks rust up faster than the older ones

Those allison tranny's rock to!

Spin on transmission filter is the life of it. Easier to change so more times than not people will change them on time or like we do every 3rd oil change

+The Deprey's Holy crap- that is awesome!

They do sound awesome 😄

I have a friend in the industry with a Ford. I have the Ram 3500 and he has the F350. We have done city and highway comparisons. The diesel ford barely edges out the gas Ram in towing. I also get the same mileage without having to worry about additives, and the higher maintanance costs.

True- repairs can get costly. But the power s great on those.

I have no experience with the new engines-but I also don't buy into rumpus very easily. I look for patterns though. If tons of people have the same problem-then watch out.

A good Diesel engine will likely be the longest lasting component on any piece of equipment.

A good Diesel engine will likely be the longest lasting component on any piece of equipment.

Thanks Scott!

Thanks!

Thats awesome! But ford should have done all that for you.

Same here Kyle- I turn a truck over and it gets beat up as much in one season as I do with it in 10!

Cummins are awesome.

Nice- glad to hear you know what your doing with that engine.

SilverStar Heggisist make a vid on your truck. do u have a cb radio?

Cole Everett no I don't have one, no one really around here I want to talk to who doesn't have a cellphone. I have somewhere buried on my profile a few dozen pictures of my truck during the engine rebuild. I stripped it to bear block and rebuilt it including painting it red (the factory color for the first year 6.2) Right now it's parked because after rebuilding the engine it ate the trans. But once I've money for that I will have the 700R4 trans rebuilt and upgraded by a trans shop near me. While I can do engines I don't know what I'm doing with transmissions so I'll have someone who does do the work. Right now I'm driving my daily driver, a '03 Dodge 3500 crew cab with a 24 valve 5.9. Great on road, tons of power. But not something I'd take into the woods. Too much softness in the body, too long and doesn't have posi rear.

Holy crap! 22 MPG? they don't make them like that anymore.

Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek the 6.2 was built for fuel economy. And people who have it in K5s have reported even higher MPGs A few of the features my engine from 82 came with standard that are upgrades on most other engines include, a roller cam, hydraulic self adjusting lifters and aluminum pistons. Before I rebuilt the engine it got between 15-18 MPG (15 on my 1700 mile one way trip to Texas with 1500 pounds of stuff in the bed driving full throttle all the way) Even with driving on as little as a quart or less of oil several times (it leaked like a screen door) when I rebuilt it, the cam had virtually zero wear, the timing chain had the same play as the bran new replacement. The only thing to really take a beating was the piston rings. Several were broken.

Wow- Thats awesome!

I still need to make that Roth. Thanks for reminding me!

Nice. Thanks. 👍

How long did you own it?

Thats a lot of miles- glad to hear its holding up.

I think that is so Cool!! Awesome idea!

I had a similar problem with fuel economy on one of my fords. It was horrible.

Thank you!

The rookie, the engine she blew, was the 6.5.

Yeah I did know that on the 7.3. Love that engine 😄

Can't go wrong with that engine, that why my family vehicle is an 02 Excursion with the 7.3

If you bulletproof that diesel it's good. But you shouldn't have to do that to get a good engine bit should come that way.

Cummins are great- Allison transmissions are amazing!

The engine will probably last longer than the rest of the truck. When they build a diesel the right way it should.

Ch3vyN0va77 if you are going to school, buy a gas engine. you won't be working that diesel enough and taking life expectancies out of it, plus the coast of maintenance it's $180 bucks to have the oil changed and tires rotated every 5000 miles not including Trans filter or air. So you need to ask yourself do you really need a diesel. just my opinion bud

Adam Hensel Yea I gotcha. I'd do maintenance myself (such as oil changes) but my plan is to keep it as a work truck later on in life after I'm out of school, which is the reason I'm even considering a diesel.

id go with gas. start out cheaper and buy something bigger if/when you need it. use the money you save on the truck to make more money. i dont ever keep anything more than a year, buy everything at low prices so you make money everytime you sell

I bought a 05 lly about 7 years ago. I do like it but there are things to consider one how many miles do you drive a year. Secondly how long do you own your vehicles for. Lastly what shape is the vehicle in. Diesels about 90% of them have seen abuse in their life, its just the way they are. The 6.0 are actually a really good engine, they can last well into the 200,000 plus mileage vehicle, Ive seen it. The 6.0 and the duramax are both desirable engines in the aftermarket so that's good. Oh and the trucks have rust issues in the rockers. GM crappy design to blame but you can cut it out and replace, or if you find one in good shape get a can of Eastwood in frame paint and coat it. If your looking at the 02-06 Duramax get an 06 they come with the 6 speed transmission. The 02-04 had some issues. I went 05 a little cheaper then an 06 and it comes with the injectors out side of the head. Basically meaning the early models if an injector goes your taking both heads off and replacing all the injectors at once $$$. One major uptick to the older ones they are actually desirable because the new emissions really make the new ones crap. You will spend more time fixing them then they are worth. Any questions you have dont be afraid to ask.

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+Tony Montana Do you know the engines / transmissions for each one? Also how have they been used, daily driver, work truck, weekend play truck, etc? Any rust? etc. Basically unless you send a link we wont be able to tell you definitly and even then it will be tough.

+Anepicbro These are my search tags when searching for a truck. I am looking for people's personal experience with these trucks. The reliability, maintenance, & truck parts durability. Do you own any of these trucks? If so what's your experience with it.

Tony Montana No I do not own any of these, unfortunatly :(. But I have one friend that has a 08 Tundra, bought it new. Only broke down once on him, a week after a 700 mile roadtrip. He kept good matinence on it and it ran lift a champ. Not sure how well it does with towing as he only hauls a few dirtbikes at max.

+Anepicbro ok thanks.

Also look at gear ratio

You can also buy a 6.4 Hemi Tradesman for about $10,000 less than a Cummins truck. I know several long-time Dodge Cummins guys who don't work their daily-driver trucks hard and who have had fuel system/emissions system problems as a result who have gone to Dodge gas-burners and traded in late-model Cummins trucks to do it. The worst thing in the world for a diesel pickup in general and a Dodge Cummins in particular is someone who drives like an old lady. They're made to be warmed up, pulled good and hard on a regular basis and WORKED so the fuel system gets a workout and the oil gets heated up good with fuel dilution and condensation "boiled out" of the crankcase. If you don't do that, the rings start sticking, turbos start dragging, injection system deposits start forming, etc. HPCR trucks are REALLY bad about forming deposits and sticking injectors and that's not exclusive to Dodge Cummins trucks. Other makes and models of diesel engines that use the same or similar Bosch HPCR fuel systems will do it too. Especially with low-sulfur diesel fuel and lots of light-load operation. There are fuel system flush products and John Deere sells them and service departments have the kits to run the engine on a special solvent for 15-30 minutes to break them loose. That stuff works and I've seen it clear up "missing" Deere 6.8-liter engines with the same fuel system Cummins ISB engines use. I've also used it to PARTIALLY "heal" an older Duramax but it ended up needing injectors anyway. I think if I could have loaded it heavier while accelerating it they way you have to in order to jack the rail pressure and fuel delivery up enough that the fuel pressure and flow breaks loose deposits, it might have come out of it. But pickups in neutral or park have basically zero load and don't get anywhere near max rail pressure by simply accelerating them to high idle. Especially V-8s. 6-bangers have to work a little harder to get there. I know for a fact that very few "bad injectors" actually have anything wrong with them besides deposits and internal leakage. There is very little that can go wrong with them and its usually the babied and coddled and grandma-driven trucks that have injector problems. Hot-rodded trucks tend to keep the injectors flushed out.

+HuntersLawnCare That depends on your surrounding. For were I live in the U.S. a diesel is not practical to start with. A ford ranger or chevy s10 pickup with 5 speed manual is good to learn, easy to drive/park, good on gas, and cheap on insurance. A Ford ranger will last you longer with less frustration and get 25+ MPG when drove properly. Either one can haul your landscaping equipment.

+Jesse Fuller solid advice👍

Jesse has good advice.

Holy crap- thats amazing!

You can extend oil changes by switching to synthetic.

I haven't heard about that one yet.