I looked into Chinese excavators. I went with a used kubota. Cat is junk if you want a simple machine. Cat uses electric over hydrolic. They are fast. The feel isn't there. I run machines for a living. I have run about everything. Some are fast some are slow. I rented a Yanmar 17 few years ago. It wasn't very impressive. Kubota for what I have run so far. They have impressed me for what they can do. Price range of a used machine. You can't beat it. Their engines are very reliable. They have made tractors for years. I got a KX41-3V 1300 hours for $14,000. Parts I can get anywhere. Buckets, teeth, exc. I may get a bigger one. But, It's done everything for me just fine. Some kubotas have angle blade. That's awesome very handy in every way.
@marinopacentrilli9533 Жыл бұрын
The Chinese machine with a enclosed cab is a great deal for a gentlemen farmer but if you need the machine for work everyday the Yanmar is probably worth the investment.
@theyhateme876321 күн бұрын
not whenyou can buy three chinese
@brianriksen Жыл бұрын
A narrow and deep bucket would make a huge difference on the cheap excavator
@davus4242 Жыл бұрын
The skinnier bucket will slice into the ground much easier; this was not a real digging comparison between machines, only the buckets. Swap buckets then see how it goes.
@Ful-OGold3 ай бұрын
The Chinese machine was labouring fairly hard when trying to break out but that could be the bucket as well. Either way it’s still a very capable machine. For the price it sure beats hiring one all the time.
@Miniloaders Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of videos on Chinese equipment out there. I like this one because you've done a fair comparison between a quality machine and a budget Chinese excavator. Most guys who buy those Chinese loaders and diggers are DIY'ers and homeowners who don't use the equipment daily in a commercial setting.
@TheAefril6 ай бұрын
Exactly right!
@yourmomlikesit1072Ай бұрын
Well duhh 😂 Thanks for the obvious
@timfolgers27599 ай бұрын
You have the best channel for heavy equipment content, incredibly funny and informative at the same time.
@dig_it_starnes5222 Жыл бұрын
Make sure to give this a like and follow! its totally FREE and helps me out a lot!
@troyweyerstrass7312 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Subscribed. We’ve literally just been talking about this very thing.
@charmnGUY11 ай бұрын
It's not about speed or towing on a jobsite, but price point and excavating power or lift
@FixItChris10 ай бұрын
This past spring i was in the position of either buying a brand new chinese 3 ton or a 20 year old Kobelco 3 ton and decided to go with the Kobelco. I know theres parts available and the chinese quality is just not there yet. i have putchased chinese attachments in the past and have always spent money on repairs or having to get parts custom machined to work.
@Ful-OGold3 ай бұрын
I’m at these cross roads as well. Chinese parts are relatively cheap compared to big brand machines. Imagine replacing a track motor on a Chinese one vs kubota or cat ect. $600 for a Chinese one and it would be at least a few thousand for the latter.
@allenbuck5589 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned a yanmar for 11 years the best small tractor for the money. Work horse. Sips fuel. Thanks from. Sc
@mediumrare90519 ай бұрын
$15,000 vs $50,000 - no need to go any further.
@Ful-OGold3 ай бұрын
Plus parts for these Chinese machines are way cheaper than any big brand machines
@bobfruit740011 ай бұрын
tbh for alot of usecases and applications, the chinese one is a no brainer for 15k. thats some value, especially if you can add aircon ;D
@hvguy11 ай бұрын
I think the china unit has a fixed displacement pump, so it's just fast all the time. If it had a variable displacement pump like every other machine. I think it'll give that yanmar a run for its money... But it's built at a price point.
@SparxI0 Жыл бұрын
Hmm so by going with the Yanmar I can save about 10 seconds when digging a shallow grave. Good to know, good to know 🤫
@keithsand2573 Жыл бұрын
That wasn't even fair. It's like running the wrong end of a spoon through a bucket of ice cream vs the shovel end of the spoon. Most people that have multiple buckets for a full size or mini hoe could tell you a trenching bucket is easier on the pumps. The only real benefit I see is stability and traction.
@charlisendit935310 ай бұрын
How much extra you paying for that 5 seconds got me messed up lol. Have fun with that
@jleighgod81499 ай бұрын
buy American dont be a trader
@8SecSleeper9 ай бұрын
@@jleighgod8149look up the nearly half a billion a 1/4 US steel mills are profiting. Then come back and say that.
@moctezumaaleg20089 ай бұрын
@@jleighgod8149 You mean “USA made “ even then most parts aren’t even made in USA
@bigtxbullion Жыл бұрын
Ive loved useing the yanmar as a rental for our projects. That said, we are considering buying the Agro so we can spread out jobs and not be in such a rush. Looks like a solid platform. That said, def agree with the yanmar quality. Operating without pump whine and stable movement. The more expensive systems purr like a smooth cat. Also love the coke bottle layout vs obese tub o lard. But at less than half price and intermittent use its hard to complain about agro.
@R94GC5 ай бұрын
Just posted a video of my Chinese mini excavator paired up with the TMK 150 tree sheer! Crazy how productive you can make a cheap machine!
@user-ss8uf2qm5k6 күн бұрын
Gotta support a local youtuber
@georgezhou7961 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah finally the full video!
@dig_it_starnes5222 Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed
@JonsDailyHustle Жыл бұрын
Loving this comparison. Greetings from Springfield Missouri 🤘
@georgewest2096 Жыл бұрын
Pump is made by same co. as most, Eaton. I have one.
@silentmountain-SM29 күн бұрын
China is cheaper pump 40$ not Eaton
@davidfitnesstech11 ай бұрын
(A lot of times) If you're *just digging dirt* and *not lifting* a heavy load, it's better to have the *blade at the back;* ..to get that *dig force* and not pop the front end up every time :-)
@cyumadbrosummit353411 ай бұрын
That's not been my experience at all.
@repairfreak Жыл бұрын
The Yanmar dug effortlessness. I could hear the other one straining when digging. A very nice machine, but wow 50K new? For wow, for the price difference the smaller one wasn’t all that bad. But how long would it last also would be extremely important. Nice video!
@reverandhale863 Жыл бұрын
Yanmar also had a narrower bucket which makes it easier to pull through the ground
@stevefarms7494 Жыл бұрын
If buying Chinese 15K one after you get it as lots of people do is buy after market stuff to make improvements to make it better Perkins engine are good motors my dad had farm tractors that had Perkins engine in them and over 30 years later they are still running very strong
@aronhorvath651811 ай бұрын
Well! Longevity depends on many factors. The Chinese stuffs like this machine runs for around 3 years and then off to the scrap yard. On the other hand, if you have extra parts and a proper mechanic service from the company that you bought it from, then you can make it work longer actually. Although, as I said, it all depends. My mate when he started off his gardening/landscaping company, he bought a cheap Chinese machine, and then bought a used Jcb from the profit of that. The most important aspects are service and spare parts!!
@danielfykes930611 ай бұрын
I found a hitachi zx60 with a cutting blade and cab for 15,000 dollars, this is shipping, insurance, and freight. The machine is 54 hp, and weighs 6 tons. Low hours in good shape. Is this a good deal? It ships out of china
@clubberlang559310 ай бұрын
Is it legit? A lot of stuff is counterfeit in China.. Great price but make sure it's real
@johntexan41656 ай бұрын
The Yanmar isn't $30,000 better...
@stevefarms7494 Жыл бұрын
I look at it... If buying brand new if people have 50K to spend then yammer would be the way to go.. but if not then maybe the 15K is the way to go and Perkins engine is a good motor I had farm tractors with the same motor and here it is over 30 years later and they are still running very strong... And on any thing anyone buys there's always room for improvement to make it way better....
@patrickjordan7670 Жыл бұрын
If you're going to test two machines try and put a experience driver on them
@davus4242 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, and use the same bucket!
@KUBBI7488 Жыл бұрын
50k vs 15 K ! i will take 15 k for DIY projects ! My local dealer wants 24 k for same Chinese exc
@therandombrandan9423 ай бұрын
The cheap digger sounds like it’s about to stall out every time it takes a scoop. The Yama has a constant rev when digging
@farmer1908 Жыл бұрын
for extra pulling power you want as much weight to the back of the machine for as much advantage as possible. you also risk flipping over backwards, but thats the balance. Also you V tread was the wrong direction for best traction. Great video though
@Press1for Жыл бұрын
At least your a pro and not some.....( Insert description here). And have practical knowledge of trenching and dirt work. Love the channel
@nicholas7878 Жыл бұрын
It’s not even a question if your contracting . The down time on that Chinese machine when running it 9 hrs a day would be horrendous. Chinese one would be ok for the weekend warrior .
@bekabeka71 Жыл бұрын
Even the cheap one is too expensive for me 😂but with that sorta money I’d deffo buy a modern tractor
@cleganite4 ай бұрын
It would have been interesting to see if you put both facing the truck and the blade down and then used the stick/boom/bucket curl to see if either one would have pulled the truck forward.
@tangoseal110 ай бұрын
Yanmar is absolutely NOT an offbrand. They have probably better engines than Kubota and I own Kubota stuff. I plan to get an Yanmar SV40 in the coming months,
@iveneverdonethisbefore8390 Жыл бұрын
Yanmar is definitely not an "off-brand", like you said.
@JusticeWhittekiend-dq2zj7 ай бұрын
i would have to say Kubota and Hitachi are my favorite
@twc90005 ай бұрын
I've heard it said that the Japanese focus on quality and the Chinese focus on reducing the cost as much as possible.
@jaycopeland3697 Жыл бұрын
Little biased but good video but you put the same bucket on both then you get same results but for a regular guy the Chinese wins hands down
@littlefoot286911 ай бұрын
You know if you swap few parts the china ones work great for about 90% for what most people will use them for
@tylershufelt8529 Жыл бұрын
Great video very well made keep it up
@claytonsanchez5264 Жыл бұрын
Im curious about how that Ali Express unit you gave away compares. lol
@mmmalensek5791 Жыл бұрын
He did a video on comparing those two already
@dig_it_starnes5222 Жыл бұрын
Did a video!kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l66DnLqIt9KXlIk.html
@jtaylor9355 Жыл бұрын
Takeuchi used to run yanmar engines and were dead nuts reliable but then the feds and there exhaust laws hit and they swapped to kubota engines.... just not the same machines since then...
@ZukaBro9 ай бұрын
The snaller excavator are not like thr bigger one. Use the boom an stick along with the bucket. Insted just curling the bucket like you done with chinese one. In my opinion they have there advantages but both are weak. An you have a bigger bucket on the chinese one so its going make the surface area plowing in a lil harder verse a smaller bucket.
@ProfessorNugget Жыл бұрын
Great video yet again love it man so glad u got a big one to try out
@ZukaBro9 ай бұрын
Iv ran the yanamar an I told super to haul it to the scrap. Could pick nothing up very weak
@chiefkyle10987 ай бұрын
Yanmar are in all of the sub 50hp class John Deere tractors. Surprised anyone would try to knock a product with decades of reliability.
@jqmachgunner2577 Жыл бұрын
How much would it cost to retrofit the Chinese excavators (small and bigger one) with new hydraulic hoses with quick release fittings?
@GWAYGWAY111 ай бұрын
JCB make a really nice digger with brilliant hydraulic package but maybe not going to the US.😊
@jwbellinger63506 ай бұрын
The Yanmar appears to have a bigger bucket which would move more material in the same time .
@DerFledderer Жыл бұрын
Great test! Moar!
@shaunnemeth2491Ай бұрын
Most concerning to me about Chinese equipment is you’re one component away from owning a boat anchor. After sales support is crucial .
@MrCheaterpipeАй бұрын
All name brand components just lower end for a quarter the price it's a hydraulic pump 3 hydraulic motors and 5 hydraulic cylinders not much else to go wrong
@jaredrandall805 ай бұрын
I think ill stick with my Komatsu equipment. Komatsu equipment is by far the smoothest strongest dozers and hoes on the market in my opinion. I would take a Komatsu dozer over any brand period. By far the best dozers. That yanmar does look alot like a Komatsu mini.
@richardmauch10423 ай бұрын
Here me out here, if size and weight was exact I think china would have kept up with those test. Now as far as the pull test, the tread on china was running backwards. I almost wonder if it would have done it or broke. Lol
@jesseayers79333 ай бұрын
as the old saying goes , compare apples to apples . not oranges to lemons. but for me and my little place the Chinese would do just great.
@niveldios1518 Жыл бұрын
I like how he always speak equally and give them a fair opinion!!
@gootsAr15 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Now let’s see you add some air conditioning on that Chinese mini! I went at looked at the same excavator at Richie bros auction in Tipton and the headliner had fallen down on that one too 😂
@fetus2280 Жыл бұрын
Both need More Cowbell!
@derekbutts1782 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Buslife57 Жыл бұрын
Everything needs more cowbell
@Dirt_mountain-earthworks Жыл бұрын
Im gonna have to sub to this channel😂. Keep them coming i cant wait for the next one👍👍👍
@swmplvr8 ай бұрын
Love Yanmar!!
@ProbeGT2 Жыл бұрын
There's no way that thing make 25 hp. The yanmar engine, supposedly lower hp, dig harder and never ever bog down.
@dig_it_starnes5222 Жыл бұрын
the Perkins does. Very high reving compared to the Yanmar. The bogging has to do with the type, and quality of hydraulic pumps. Better designs and higher torque pumps can do more with less
@krombopulascody8384 Жыл бұрын
diesel creek intro , anyone else notice that?
@JiaqiLi-h3h23 күн бұрын
Cool ❤
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj7 ай бұрын
Iam sure the chain drive system creates slop in the movement.
@luisgarci68155 ай бұрын
All you gotta do is lower the acceleration and you would have better control on the cheap one 😂
@123hkopm1238 ай бұрын
If it takes 30 seconds to dig half a hole, how long does it take to dig a whole hole?
@drakosha102010 ай бұрын
More expensive wins. It's obvious because it cost 3 times more. But... is it 3 times better than cheap one?
@clubberlang559310 ай бұрын
I mean the bucket is half the size on the cheapo one so not really equal is it
@Theemersonday Жыл бұрын
great video man. made me laugh a few times. Im seriously interested in buying a machine from china. I'm looking at a 4 Ton excavator. Im up in the great white north here in Canada but id imagine the prices would be similar. what are you all in after imports and buying it from the factory?
@ProbeGT2 Жыл бұрын
Look at UHI brand, i went to see them in person and they are the best looking chinese diggers. They really are the highest quality of them. I ordered a UME12P. They are a little pricier than the generic chineese but i think they're worth it.
@brettmasek9453 Жыл бұрын
Ive watched every one of these chinese tractor videos youve done. Are the name brand ones better? Of course! Are they 3 times better??? Im thinking not... Especially not for the diy just likes to play woth giant toys kinda guy like me...
@ericrkell407311 ай бұрын
How about use them for 10 years and then do a comparison.
@joelfehr154911 ай бұрын
For 35k you could buy yourself a decent used truck and trailer to haul it, maybe a case of beer too
@blairlloyd14839 ай бұрын
would need back surgery after owning the china one. like to see how many repairs would have to be done after a few thousand hours.
@spatoinker8743 Жыл бұрын
Im shocked you only have 10k subs. Your channel will blow up with content like this
@dig_it_starnes5222 Жыл бұрын
I hope so man! glad you like it
@cisco5400 Жыл бұрын
Great info, means alot for us China machine buyers! Thx
@rickgrafter Жыл бұрын
you started the cheap one pulling the truck where the other 1 stopped been able to pull it
@jamesswick75346 ай бұрын
Can the pumps be replaced on the Chinese machine, and if so, how much approximately to replace them?
@5.43v6 ай бұрын
Standard Eaton pump
@jperez54689 ай бұрын
try popular chinese brands Liugong, Sany, XCMG, SDLG
@user-hp1kk2bb8y7 ай бұрын
Let’s put a JCB To the test
@Initial-Machinery Жыл бұрын
Perfect ❤
@4rubberzaday Жыл бұрын
Caterpillar is not running Perkins anymore. My 259d3 has a Kubota
@dig_it_starnes5222 Жыл бұрын
they use to a lot in the multi terrain loaders. apparently the 3.3 Kubota has noting but problems with CAT and Tak machines
@4rubberzaday Жыл бұрын
@@dig_it_starnes5222 They are absolute turds that’s for sure. My 262b gets used more than the 259d. Should have got a skid with the yanmar but I’ve never had anything outside of CAT and JLG
@caperguy15677 ай бұрын
This guy is clearly biased for the yanmar even though the chinese machine kicked it's ass in the lifting and very negligible difference otherwise which could be operator error. Sad.
@jonny19710 Жыл бұрын
Can I ask if you know how to get to the battery?
@davids2676 Жыл бұрын
yanmar is great
@TF856 Жыл бұрын
I like Yanmar and Takeuchi better than cat, bobcat and John Deere.
@troymuche899711 ай бұрын
Did you call locates in before you dug? Safety first, lol
@philip4588 Жыл бұрын
Nante?
@naterussell602511 ай бұрын
yanmar is far from offbrand. they make all the deere motors
@oby-1607 Жыл бұрын
Yanmar is the best for your money. The very best is Deere. Between the machines shown, the Yanmar is the only machine I would spend money on.
@lesliegrayson172211 ай бұрын
Excavators aren't cranes and as a crane operator things can be lifted even after its at its limit.. I having bought a much bigger excavator than these both together and a whole lot cheaper think that Excavators are a work horse in the quarry area.. if your renting , rent cheap as possible, if buying buy something that can be repaired easily and your local repair guy wants to repair coz its not from CCP land, all love to the Chinese people none to their socialist dictators.
@brianschwarz33 Жыл бұрын
They put the loop on the back of the bucket for a reason
@dig_it_starnes5222 Жыл бұрын
There isn’t one on the Chinese mini. Was trying to keep it fair
@nightstorm9128 Жыл бұрын
You might prefer yanmar over bobcat,,,but it is still an off brand machine....
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Жыл бұрын
Korea's Doosan bought Bobcat - I'd take Japanese-built Yanmar's vs Korean-built Bobcat's.
@Misterstixxx Жыл бұрын
You crazy yanmar no way better than Kubota or cat deere no Comp to cat
@dig_it_starnes5222 Жыл бұрын
ive ran them all and it defiantly is, if you'd like to prove me wrong you certainly can. yammer engines hold up better than any Kubota there is
@sonnykwan6845 Жыл бұрын
Great video comparison. This may help the Chinese manufacturing to up its parts and quality, and companies ie @Yanmar to reduce theirs as more and more of these imports flood the U.S/Canadian/worldwide market.
@mainelyworthwhile5793 Жыл бұрын
Well....similar in specs but looks like your kidneys stayed intact on the yanmar. Did you enjoy the bronc ride on the chinexcavator?😅
@workworks4453 Жыл бұрын
Too many opinions, not enough facts, and started w/ a bias. 15k versus 50k. Narrow bucket versus wide. Bigger tracks. Heavier machine. Not a supper useful comparison, but the info is useful
@erdbewegungroj4321 Жыл бұрын
Can you compare LiuGong with Yanmar?
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@Sooty_Grandad8 ай бұрын
What a bias comparison. With the cheap digger, not only did you try and dig deeper in one go, but you also put the pile of dirt twice as far away from the hole than you did when digging with the yanmar. Proof right there on the video. Yanmar pile about 2 feet away from the hole, and chinese excavator pile about 5 feet away. And the smaller bucket on the yanmar breaks up the dirt far easier than the larger bucket on the chinese rocket, which makes it far easier to take that second slice.