Digitakt vs Octatrack Mega Workflow Comparison
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The Digitakt is here, and the Octatrack just got a new MKII update. Which one to choose!? They are overlapping in what they can do, but I think they are different enough to justify that Elektron keeps selling both of them.
So here's a mega workflow comparison video where I'm comparing them side by side in a number of aspects. It's a bit long, but if you're interested in this stuff, I hope you'll find the video interesting.
Cheers
CUCKOO
00:00:00 1. Introduction
00:01:52 2. Octatrack MK2
00:03:18 3. File management
00:04:35 4. Streaming, preloading to RAM
00:05:28 5. File dumping and backup
00:06:24 6. Overbridge
00:06:53 7. Inputs and outputs
00:08:23 8. Recording and trimming on Digitakt
00:10:24 9. Recording and trimming on Octatrack
00:12:56 10. Slices
00:15:37 11. Saving files on Octatrack
00:16:26 12. Compact flash travel backup
00:17:01 13. Processing live audio
00:18:26 14. Loading samples
00:21:06 15. Recording a sequence
00:23:04 16. Messing with a sequence on Digitakt, Control All
00:26:34 17. Messing with a sequence on Octatrack, Scenes
00:29:16 18. Pitch shift, Time stretch, Playback rate
00:31:01 19. Reverbs and effects
00:34:01 20. The keyboard
00:35:44 21. Loop box (pickup machine)
00:37:04 22. Single waveform "synthesis"
00:40:06 23. LFO automation
00:41:32 24. The Arranger, pattern chaining
00:43:14 25. Simple vs Choice
00:43:54 26. MIDI
00:47:36 27. MIDI arpeggiator
00:48:05 28. Trig conditions
00:49:54 29. How I use Octatrack
00:54:28 30. How I use Digitakt
00:58:21 31. "Conclusion"
00:59:42 32. patreon.com/cuckoomusic + store.truecuckoo.com
@johnbeuck587 7 жыл бұрын
OMG the little clock in the top left is soo cool and useful!
@truecuckoo 7 жыл бұрын
+Dark Miracle glad you noticed!! I will update it in future videos :)
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 7 жыл бұрын
I kept thinking of plastic pie wedges from Trivial Pursuit, but now I get why they're there.
@Hightower2804TP 7 жыл бұрын
Its not a clock, its Pac Man
@RickyTinez 6 жыл бұрын
Just the video i was looking for! Sidenote: Great meeting you at NAMM!!
@truecuckoo 6 жыл бұрын
Hey there :) Likewise.
@smt_ 3 жыл бұрын
seems like a shame they didn't use the chance to give the mk2 the updated effects and some overall polish, still seems like an amazing device but damn that DT reverb...
@Breisler 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos both make me happy and help me make informed purchases. I've curated my synth information between a few channels and I'm always happy with every review you do. Please don't ever stop doing it.
@RedMeansRecording 7 жыл бұрын
The section about how you use both is super helpful, thank you for that.
@RedMeansRecording 7 жыл бұрын
Also 52:23 sounds dope
@truecuckoo 7 жыл бұрын
+Red Means Recording Cool, great to hear mate!
@ripbozo941 7 жыл бұрын
ofc red slidin into electron comment sections everywhere
@dickheadrecs 6 жыл бұрын
Question for you hello must Siri thank you QQ
@GuitarsAndSynths 6 жыл бұрын
just beware the new MKII Octatrack is quite a bit different in function keys to perform tasks in comparison to the MK I model.
@_rkrd 7 жыл бұрын
Non-content related, but I like the added segment timer on the top! That with the index on the description sounds to me, like a great pattern for making long videos easily digestible.
@Hlecktro 7 жыл бұрын
As per the Octatrack commercial, I've yet to be able to transmogrify other humans in a Post-Apocolyptic Lovecraftian warehouse rave. Hopefully this feature is added in a future firmware update.
@PatrickSugarfix 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Cuckoo, Just wanted to say thank you for this. I'm still super torn between the two, but you've done an incredible job at conveying what it's like working with each of them. Cheers!
@RandomRabOfficial 7 жыл бұрын
You're tutorials are insanely good. The index points are awesome. You've single handedly turned me into a loyal Elektron fan with all these amazing videos. Your music is good too. Thanks Cuckoo.
@truecuckoo 7 жыл бұрын
+Random Rab Official thank you so much for all the kind words!! Right to my chest!
@EbaucheMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video @cuckoomusic. Really nice to see an in-depth breakdown of the two machines side by side like this.
@dapunisha7380 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for your long informative videos. I got me the digitakt and they really helped me to get to know the functions yet there is so much more to learn about this machine. big up!
@jlowrie33 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you! Just bought an Octatrack MK1 for the same price as the Digitakt. The original is still completely relevant. I love your videos. Thanks man!
@bicycleninja1685 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I was looking for this comparison.
@TimShoebridge 7 жыл бұрын
Incredibly useful and informative. Thanks very very much for taking time to do this video :)
@Bredofication 7 жыл бұрын
This is pure quality video! The progress pie is simply amazing, and your videos are just pleasant to see and very instructive! Super Cuckoo!! :D
@ClaudeDjale 6 жыл бұрын
Cuckoo, thank you very much for all the great tutorials... you make them so easy and fun....
@This1That0 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your expertise and love of these instruments.
@ChrisPlough 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you man - I appreciate the time and energy you put into sharing.
@williammindreaders1029 7 жыл бұрын
THANKS cuckoo ;) it was nice to have a full comparison
@dougb70 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your rare flavor of creative genius with the world. Great stuff.
@drgoodusername 7 жыл бұрын
This is your best video; I watched the entire thing. I can't wait for the MKII.
@truecuckoo 7 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks Benito! The MKII looks nice, doesn't it!?
@drgoodusername 7 жыл бұрын
It doesn't just look nice - it should have the better audio opamps that are in the digi - from what I've read. So any audio you have in Okta actually will sound better out of the MKii. Of course this also means that some tracks may need tweaking if some of the "color" in the sound changes. The only thing I really want in MKII is trig mutes. I don't even need conditional trigs, but trig mutes like in the RYTM should be achievable on the current Okta DSP but who knows.
@malibukentechno5761 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, understand these lot better now. Thanks
@justingoers 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent overview. Thank you so much!
@k5r2d2 6 жыл бұрын
Sir Cuckoo I am grateful for your review. Danke
@UncleGordon1978 7 жыл бұрын
god bless you cuckoo in the end of the video you felt in love with Octatrack xD totally agree.
@vllyshdden2363 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this!
@co101 6 жыл бұрын
Awesomely Entertaining as well as informative! Nice Work!
@forbesy8568 7 жыл бұрын
So very helpful so clever with a wonderful clarity thanks for your lessons i will hook up the Patron account again shortly for your time.
@mikebingaman3264 6 жыл бұрын
I have had the Octatrack for many years and yet learned a lot from this.
@xgauzeva4121 7 жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful video and very well made. Thank you!!!!
@baz6429 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent comprehensive video. Had my heart set on the OT however by the end I was in love with the Digitakt. The sound is awesome, the workflow is very quick and while there are some limitations it feels like a very creative machine.
@mikeexits Жыл бұрын
I was all-in on wanting a Digitakt and Synthstrom Deluge for years, but after learning that Avey Tare has used the Octatrack to do live sets, and after doing some more research and realizing how powerful it is, now all I want is the Octatrack mkII. Oh boy, that's gonna be a journey.
@tekis0 7 жыл бұрын
First time seeing one of your videos, and I really like your format!! Well done!
@truecuckoo 7 жыл бұрын
+tekis0 thanks!! I appreciate it :)
@enlnh 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for creating this
@tubesockor 7 жыл бұрын
Very pedagogical at the same time as covering a lot of both machines. Will be very helpful for a lot of people, I think. Gött jobbat!
@deastman2 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very helpful video. I had preordered a Digitakt, but while waiting for it to arrive, I found a deal on a used Octatrack that was too good to pass up. So now I've really jumped into the deep end with both boxes at the same time and no prior experience with any Elektron boxes other than my original Machinedrum. This video really helped me to better understand the strengths and weaknesses of each box and to start to see how I might use the two of them together. Speaking of which, it would be great to see a video demonstrating how YOU would combine the two in composition and performance.
@visualmusicprod8541 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video ! Lots of good vibes and it helps me to get in with my OT, so complex...I'm used to my old Esx, had so much fun and creative ideas... the sound of the OT seems to me too digital but the track you made at the end of this video is so cool, makes me wanna go deeper in the OT! Cheers , Lionel from France
@iscariah71 7 жыл бұрын
Tanx my Friend, this is the video i was waitin for....you re the best, you re so reactive.....but i still hesite between dt and ot mark2!!!!!!
@HailSagan_ 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job - always love your stuff Cuckoo. I'd love to see a Digitone vs Analogue Four video vs of this - cheers mate
@DayflightTrok 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very professional comparison.
@telexcopiomusic 5 жыл бұрын
Your track is really good! Thanks Cookoo
@danieljohnmorris 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS!
@UncleBoogieRF 5 жыл бұрын
Your entrance into shot at the start. Awesome.
@avantoo 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Winslow would be proud of your sound effects:)
@DigitalStains 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you!
@indiefilmcomposer 7 жыл бұрын
Your awesome for doing this one of the best reviewers on you tube. I have the tempest and TR8, but really need something like this in my workflow to expand my sound and performance palette .....leaning towards octatrack....and right now mki version used is a good value
@Turbogophertuesdays 6 жыл бұрын
This is great! Always a pleasure
@WilliamWarinDhavernas 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this in depth comparison. Very nice and helpfull.
@HankAstral 7 жыл бұрын
only 2 mins in and already outstanding. Love the image switch between the the old and new Octatracks.
@javiermorin8148 6 жыл бұрын
Hank Astral i
@atommachine 6 жыл бұрын
groovy upload i think i will look at the Mrk2 OT stay mellow...fellow
@asafherrmann4836 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude, super well made 👍👏
@truecuckoo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot 🙏🏼
@gianlucacali2635 5 жыл бұрын
Sic et simpliciter, thank you... You helped me a lot in my decision making...
@nmc_music 7 жыл бұрын
I love my Digitakt. Was gonna sell my much unloved Octatrack. After watching this, I will keep both!
@larac8224 6 жыл бұрын
Your mini mirror idea is SOOO fucking cool, you are 'fearless and inventive' as a galactian slug once said
@truecuckoo 6 жыл бұрын
+Lara Knight thank you so much Lara!! Hope to see you around. Cheers!
@fred4276 4 жыл бұрын
You are the best. I love your noises you make
@AaronFabbri 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I want the functionality of the OT with the sound of the DT. The OT sounds flat after hearing the digitakt. Sad to hear the mkii is not bringing sound improvements. That DT reverb!
@davidknight754 7 жыл бұрын
1,000 thumbs up if I could. This was an amazing tutorial. I just took delivery of an Octatrack 3 weeks ago. Due to the new one coming out I went ahead and returned it and will be getting MK 2. I also have a Digitakt. Being somewhat familiar with both, this tutorial really helped me out! Thanks!
@grandmasterjo1 7 жыл бұрын
David Knight. Lucky you for being able to with in time.
@grandmasterjo1 7 жыл бұрын
Lucky you
@JupiterRexMusic 7 жыл бұрын
you should just keep the old one and have 2 ;). I'm seriously considering getting a second OT for some serious overload lush insanity
@davidknight754 7 жыл бұрын
Hah! Cool idea, though I better learn how to use 1 first. If I were to do something like that I would try to have 2 Mk II so the workflow is exactly the same. But really, my plan for the Octatrack is mainly backing tracks for my live work. I want to hit a button and start a static machine and send a 20 minute soundscape out the main or que outs, and thats about it at the moment. Will dive deeper as I go though.
@grandmasterjo1 7 жыл бұрын
The summer NAMM two weeks from now should give us the perfect picture of the OT Mk II, if any. Thanks for all the effort in the comparison video. I'm sure it will help many me included.
@Mapledrip40 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic man, thanks
@claudius3124 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man I love your videos !! you're an awesome teacher !!! Keep On ! ;-)
@banahaffar 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT vid! thank you so much for this public service
@rustikinc63 5 жыл бұрын
Very clear and concise job CC..........nizewerk
@EloEast 7 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial!
@2disbetter 7 жыл бұрын
The Octatrack is still just so powerful. It is such a powerful tool, that embraces sampling for the really power tool it can be. I also love how the octatrack acts as a mixer, etc. Thanks for the video Cuckoo! I'll be in Sweden in 2 weeks, and it would be awesome if I bumped into you! Hahaha! Small world and all!
@Synthsound 4 жыл бұрын
Thx a lot for this cool video 😀 you are incredible!!!
@myjima 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks super helpful !
@geohashi 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@LlewynDaviesTheThird 7 жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@GuitarsAndSynths 7 жыл бұрын
Wow this was so helpful in decide which one to get. Thanks a million Cuckoo your videos are the best on Elektron gear. Also now I want the cool pocket Teenage engineering gear so cute and portable.
@truecuckoo 7 жыл бұрын
+Renaissance Man thank you so much mr Renessance!
@GuitarsAndSynths 6 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! OT is more complex but super powerful once you learn it!
@cliverowley925 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video and well explained. I know own both machines and a Digitone!!!!
@fredrikw1447 5 жыл бұрын
so inspired by this tutorial!
@amnesyaudiotrauma5 3 жыл бұрын
best video intro ever
@urielterry 4 жыл бұрын
Cuckoo u r the best!!! best wishes from Mexico!
@Clemicluwho 6 жыл бұрын
I love you cuckoo, thank you.
@quirkymusic9420 6 жыл бұрын
I believe you could do a "control all" feature in the octatrack by sending everything through a master track.
@polycatband 7 жыл бұрын
Very helpful!
@ramonkey2939 4 жыл бұрын
Love my Octatrack mkII. This video is awesome. Nothing wrong with the digitakt I just love having more options in performance
@carlosfuentes4026 7 жыл бұрын
Dude! your are the best!!!
@shortcutDJ 4 жыл бұрын
lovely learned soo much
@Philippe44 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, oh patron saint of samples
@OPdbx 7 жыл бұрын
I really love the digitakt, and prefer it over the octatrack (mainly because of the size and price difference), but mono samples only is a big deal breaker for me. To have this limitation on a machine in 2017 that is >$500 is absurd.
@geecen 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm not sure. What are you sampling that has such important stereo information? It only has a limited RAM so you can't really use it for stems from your DAW or whatever anyway; it's much more for one hits or mangling stuff where the original stereo imaging is not really very relevant. I'm planning on getting an Octatrack, but for me the stereo vs mono kind of makes sense for these boxes. If all you want to do is play back longer stereo samples as a backing track, the Electribe sample has SD card and stereo plus a few other things, so it might suit you better.
@arturpolonski6234 6 жыл бұрын
Allways cool THX 👍💖
@adrianroethlisberger4626 3 жыл бұрын
amazing tutorial
@GreenTeFarm 7 жыл бұрын
wow!, best video start 2017.
@batteryheadmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Watched this to decide if I should "upgrade" my DT to an OT... now I need both. Thanks.
@nucentury08 4 жыл бұрын
2.0 💯🚀🚀🚀🚀 Overbridge 2 Digitakt 2020
@AdnanAlsannaa 7 жыл бұрын
I don't have an Elektron instrument and very much looking to get one. I think after this video the Octatrak makes much more sense for me.
@GuitarsAndSynths 6 жыл бұрын
just be sure to invest many hours and patience in learning each one! Reading the manuals are MANDATORY with these complex boxes.
@user-wx8ot1ph4d 7 жыл бұрын
Saturdays are for the boys
@TotalBikeForever 5 жыл бұрын
Love this video, the last 3 sections especially. Is the vocal/loop trick at 52:39 something you could do on the Digitakt as well? I'd be using either unit for vocals and would love this kind of functionality for live shows
@beyondthegong 3 жыл бұрын
Has the Octatrack polyphony/sequencing issue been made more current (read: fixed) in the Dec 2020 OS update ?
@trevor4835 5 жыл бұрын
So succinct! 👌
@dxtrs_mnpltr 7 жыл бұрын
Aahhh Cuckoo.. genius!!
@dry509 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@user-vh4bn4zs8c 7 жыл бұрын
I have the same wire with red and white rubber grip on the Jacks! YEEEAAAAAH!)))
@unclejuju12 5 жыл бұрын
for the octatrack when recording in the chromatic scale since the keys will choke each other could you record original keys, then layer over it with keys that are a longer length?
@danieldemayo6209 7 жыл бұрын
Your a nut....a very funny and informative one haha....now I really can't pick! Lol
@rimartracks7279 6 жыл бұрын
I think that a noticeable difference between the two is how muting works. The octatrack mutes the *audio* but the Digitakt mutes the *trigs* for their respective tracks. Which means that if you push mute on the octatrack before the sample finishes playing it cuts out(no fx tails even). Which can be really annoying(annoys the shit out of me). The Digitakt lets it play out.
@pazhonda1821 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, but there is a way around THIS. Go to the AMP page, good down your A or B button and on the screen you can see at the bottom right of the screen a notification shows up and you can mute the track by turning the encoder associated with that slot On/Off. The effect will fade out instead of CUT out. Hope that helps.
@blankgen8003 4 жыл бұрын
@@pazhonda1821 Well done !
@mrclaytron 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison! I can't see myself ever parting with my Octatrack (I don't understand people selling their Octatrack to buy a Digitakt?) - I love that OT has so many options - but yeah, the Digitakt definitely looks easier to get into... The Octatrack took me some time to get my head around (particularly the relationship between Sets, Projects, Banks, Parts, Patterns, Scenes and Tracks) But I think you get what you pay for, and the extra cost of the Octatrack just gives a lot of extra flexibility. I have to say though, the MIDI sequencer of the Octatrack annoys me (exactly what you discuss)... I'd love it to have proper polyphonic sequencing like Digitakt (I hope Elektron might address this with an update?) Cheers!
@CALIBA88 4 жыл бұрын
there are two types of users. one needs a powerfull machine and is willing to take a step learning curve. the other is a wannabe and wants just to feel like they are creativ with the min. amount of work. second are the majority thats why toys from apple are so succesfull. studys showed, that apple users tend to think from them self as highly creativ while being more consumer than creator. ppl on professional platforms dont have that narcistic threat. it has to do with dunning kruger.but i know 10people that want to be musicans to impress girls but are way too lazy to just watch a tutorial how a daw works while i know 1dude that loves doing music for doing music. people love those soundboard apps where they have some samples that they can combine randomly with a pleasing outcome so they can pretend. we all have those friends, that invest big money in the best gear but dont know jackshit about music theory. and we all know a dude, that is able to improvise hitsongs with audacity and two samples. funny thing is, when these talentless dudes feel the creative dude is unprofessional bc he puts skill over gear. i build a studio for a guy, he dissed me the whole year of that project bc i use fl studio. he needed cubase, nothing less. bc he is the shit and fl studio is only a toy. so when the studio was finished, we started a jam and i told him, the instrumental is xx BPM. he asked me, what BPM´s are. i installed the ejay products and never spoke him again.
@jaffasplaffa1 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Cuckoo. Great video :) Considering getting one of these, and leaning mostly to the Octatack. But I am wondering about one thing that I have not found any answers for in any videos: - Is it possible to retrigger og restart the sequencer from step 1, while the sequencer is playing? Not stopping and starting the sequencer again, I mean simply just restart the sequencer from step 1? Oh and one more thing, do you find the time stretch useful, in any creative ways in the Octatack? I really like time stretching and have been researching a bit on OT time stretch, but its also one of the areas that have not been documented a lot. Thanks and have a great day ;)
@PedroCamposoficial 7 жыл бұрын
thanks!!!
@dondraperbeats Жыл бұрын
Had to comment to say thank you for not saying that the digitakt is incapable of chopping samples. It has always irritated me that people say it doesn’t slice or chop when it really does, just in an unconventional way. I’m talking pre 1.50 ofc
@truecuckoo Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Fully possible in the original firmware, only a little more work. But now, oh yeah it’s ready to chop!
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