Digital Piano Keyboard Action Comparison Yamaha Kawai Casio

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Bonners Pianos & Keyboards

8 жыл бұрын

A short video that compares some of the different key actions found in popular brands of digital pianos.

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@Daniellillom 5 жыл бұрын

Que dificil encontrar este tipo de comparativas, mil gracias por tu exposición. Enhorabuena.

@medvardsen 6 жыл бұрын

A very informative and good video if you need to know about the keys mechanics and what makes the right feeling and touch of digital pianos. I liked the referring to the importance of feel. Thank you so much!

@berntolavstene851 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. So many things have changed on the digital piano keyboard action scene since 2016, so I believe it begs for an updated video. :-)

@jonnyard 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tony for your informative and knowledgeable videos and your beautifully played demos. I wish I lived a bit closer to a Bonners store! Jonny Ard France

@MrVara411 5 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate this video! Thanks for showing us the magic behind the curtain! :)

@massud-8612 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video it helps me a lot!

@wagnerpolveiro7176 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you so very much, Bonners Music. You are always offering us the most valuable tips on pianos. You are indeed of great help.

@Boaz2108 4 жыл бұрын

Would love an updated video on this

@jamesmauricebattle8924 8 жыл бұрын

Great job Tony!

@PeterPanQuails 2 жыл бұрын

I agree completely that the keyboard action and the tones are the major consideration when choosing one electric piano over the others. When it comes to action, I found some keybed are a bit bouncy which I don't like. I would also check the noise it makes by swtiching off the power and just hit the key.

@WoodyPianoShack 5 жыл бұрын

very informative, thanks!

@annaanna5921 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much ! Very helpful !

@aronphilip9693 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for this video.

@saiyajedi 5 жыл бұрын

The digital piano we just bought has the Kawai RHIII action. Not top-of-the-line, but it seems to come with the recommendation of Japanese piano teachers, as my daughter’s encouraged us to look at the Kawai over the comparable Yamaha model with GH3 action.

@maxheadrom3088 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!!!! Bechstein is the other Steinway - the other best piano around. Wow!!!! That Yamaha action is great! I once saw one of these slices from a Steinway with repetition - they are still much more complicated than even the Yamaha. PS: I watched the ad! Do you deliver, free of charge, to Brazil? It's near São Paulo - not inside de Amazon forest, don't worry! hehehe. Awesome video!!!

@Dukoff血汗臺鐵 5 жыл бұрын

Good Video!

@krizzo 5 жыл бұрын

Would love to see an updated video, that includes the lower model actions. Specifically these from Yamaha and Kawai. I was able to go to a store and test out all except the GrandTouch since they didn't have one. The problem is the stores here are specialties where it's either Yamaha or Kawai so comparing by moving from one to the other isn't easy. Yamaha CLP-635 - GH3X (Graded Hammer 3X) CLP-685 - GrandTouch Kawai CN37 - Responsive Hammer (RHIII) Action, CA48 - Grand Feel Compact Action (GFC), CA78 - Grand Feel II Covered in this video.

@MikkoRantalainen 4 жыл бұрын

How about an update with Kawai ES-100 and Yamaha P125 because those seem to have the best action for cost of less than 1000 for full set?

@maximiliano1761 7 жыл бұрын

Looks like a nice store. I wish we had something like it in the USA.

@bonnersmusic 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@adamm4064 7 жыл бұрын

Maximiliano Ditto. I'm looking for a new digital piano but it's so hard in my area. You have to travel from one store to the next, and everything is over priced because of how the piano market is set up in the US.

@adamm4064 7 жыл бұрын

@Kougeru 6 жыл бұрын

There's only two stores where I live and they sell entirely different brands so it's hard to get a fair assessment.

@chieftp 6 жыл бұрын

are you serious? the USA is now the land of duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh. I'd just like to have our Kmart and Radio Shack back. even a mom n pop music store would be nice. those are gone too. Guitar Center put them all out of business and they'll be gone soon as well since they're over a billion $ in debt. having a music store that specializes in keyboards in the USA?? you're living in fantasy land! nope. you have fast food, check cashing, pawn shops, African hair braiding, a thousand tattoo parlors on every street and gas stations (not service stations) that sell liquor, tobacco, lottery tickets, snack chips and sugar water. we'll soon have no stores at all. everything will have to be bought from Amazon. we've dragged everything down to the poorest, stupidest level. no manufacturing, no technology, no intelligence. nothing but poor, stupid people, a sliver of people worth billions and the government in trillions of dollars of debt. we've created a pretty shitty situation for ourselves. welcome to third world hell.

@astival69 6 жыл бұрын

Between kawai ca-98, Casio Grand hibrid gp-500 and bluthner e-klavier-3 which has the most realistic keyboard? Thank you

@carlos-bt4dt 5 жыл бұрын

are Yamaha NW-GH key a new version of GH-3 with Wood glued to side of keys ?

@benjiebarker 5 жыл бұрын

for 2019, what is the best action now?

@zetacrucis681 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty good and honest of digital piano actions. I played all those and I mostly agree with what this guy says. For a made-for-a-store marketing video this one is almost shockingly surprisingly honest

@joonks7373 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the action comparison video. I would appreciate some more advice. is the Kawai VCP1 a good buy or should I consider something else for the money. I am also considering a Casio Privia.

@crazyFrankyy 4 жыл бұрын

Hey ! Do you buy a vpc1?

@gcalvaro 4 жыл бұрын

I missed here in this comparison one or two actions from Roland, although I presume there's no cross-sections available from that brand.

@musicaldracula2017 5 жыл бұрын

Which plastic compact action has a smooth and easy feeling on black keys? I understand the fulcrum issue but there might be a producer who has solved that problem by putting less weight on black hammers...?

@christiangremes 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I would like to know your opinion on the FATAR mechanisms. TP100 LR and TP 40 WOOD. Thanks

@superconnie5003 6 жыл бұрын

Very helpful..tks

@yudeo9782 3 жыл бұрын

I’m trying to find the charts of action weight per depths of key pressed to understand the dynamics of the weight of different models. Any idea what’s the term to Google it?

@carlosvaquerofoto 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony, I wanted to ask you a comparison between action keys, specifically between the Casio Celviano GP series and the Kawai ones (Grand Feel 2 & Millenium III). Thanks Tony, I love your videos mate ;)

@carlosvaquerofoto 5 жыл бұрын

I'm questioning myself between the Casio GP400 and the Kawai CA78. Thanks Tony.

@KIsaac-wp5dq 3 жыл бұрын

Please help me which should I buy roland fp-30 or anything better than that ? In sort best key action and budget . Thank you .🙏🏻

@diogoemon 3 жыл бұрын

what would you say is the best one for a beginner (and as cheap as possible)?

@Michael-4 7 жыл бұрын

This is a cracking video.

@bonnersmusic 7 жыл бұрын

Many thanks Michael!!

@anitago 6 жыл бұрын

Kawai CA 17 has GFII or RM3II?

@EvanZamir Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to purchase sample actions like this?

@galic65 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony, I love your reviews. Probably the most informative out there. I am torn in between Roland HP 605, Kawai CS 8 and Yamaha 575. If you would be the one who should choose in between these three... which one would you chose based on keyboard action and sound. Another question is which digital piano would you buy for your own use in a range of 3000 €. Thank you in advance and keep a great job. Hope Bonners do realize how valuable you are.

@bonnersmusic 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Danny, Thank you very much for your comments. A hard question to answer, as it's really down to your personal preference. However I would say, Yamaha has the best sound, kawai the best key action and Roland the best features. Really the best thing you can do is try our all three to be able to make a decision. If you're ever anywhere near us, we do have all three available to try out in our showrooms (Reigate, London M25 or Eastbourne, South Coast).

@galic65 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tony! Appreciated your unbiased answer.

@galic65 7 жыл бұрын

Bonners Musical Instruments I finally made my decision and order Kawai CS 8 because of it keyboard Action and beautiful classic look.

@szatanica1 5 жыл бұрын

Danny G - how’s your Kawai after a year of usage? I found couple of vids and several opinions about Kawai, that it get’s messed up. There are keys that tend to sound louder, the keys deline , there are holes between keys and differences in hight. How is yours?

@nezkeys79 5 жыл бұрын

@@bonnersmusic open a store up north so i dont have to spend £100 on a train fare lol

@Kapomafioso 5 жыл бұрын

Do you have any 2019 update on this topic? If I have about $1800 budget, what is the best action I can get for that money? Kawai CN-27 sounds fine, but is the short key a problem?

@Boaz2108 4 жыл бұрын

Depends what brand u like. I would suggest kawai or roland, because they deliver consistent quality. The Roland HP 704 is probable the best piano in that pricerange, or if u like Kawai, i would suggest the CA 48

@jonvincentmusic 5 жыл бұрын

Once your ears latch on to him saying erm every 6-7 words you can't unhear it.

@nezkeys79 5 жыл бұрын

Same lol

@PiyanistKeremBey 4 жыл бұрын

What are the differences between GHS and GH3.

@sjlee1542 8 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you. Does this mean that the Kawai ca series (67, 97) would have a more realistic action/feel than the clavinova 545, 575, ,585)? Is the GFii action more comparable to the avant grand?

@bonnersmusic 8 жыл бұрын

Yes the GFii action is more like an Avantgrand. Yamaha CLP action is a wooden short key design. CLP action feels nice but is not the same as the GFii or AvantGrand models.

@ferdearmas8732 4 жыл бұрын

mate!, which was your final choice and why?...

@katarzynajasik1960 5 жыл бұрын

Can you redo that vid with the actions from 2018?

@carlangaz007 5 жыл бұрын

2019 now would be welcome!

@mayiask654 4 жыл бұрын

Aren't the "fake hammers" and/or weights of DPs there for simulating the feel of an acoustic piano? At 7:05 you say the hammers (of the Casio keyboard) are just for show. In my opinion this is not quite correct. I think the hammers serve the exactly same purpose as the weights (= fake or pseudo hammers) in the other key actions. So if Casio's hammers are just for show, then the weights/hammers of the other key actions should be considered "just for show" as well. Am i missing here something?

@vodkapuppy11 8 жыл бұрын

That was very helpful, thanks a lot! I am a beginner and was considering purchasing the Casio AP-260, is that any good?

@Kurgan100 6 жыл бұрын

vodkapuppy11 whats you've buy then?

@Kougeru 6 жыл бұрын

Do you have an opinion on the CLP 635 action compared to the CN37's action?

@bonnersmusic 6 жыл бұрын

Hi, Both of these pianos have a Plastic Key action and are both very similar in specification. Out of the two, I would say that the CLP635 action is heavier than the CN37, which is lighter in feel. Neither is better than the other, it is down to personal preference. You can try both of these, and many other models, at either of our pianos showrooms - Reigate (London M25) or Eastbourne (South Coast).

@ferdearmas8732 4 жыл бұрын

mate!, which was your final choice and why?...

@JaniceZoey 6 жыл бұрын

Fantastic and informative video. How is kawai gf2 compared to the grandtouch in clp 685? Which one is closer to avant grand or acoustic grand piano?

@bonnersmusic 6 жыл бұрын

+Martin Wijaya My own personal opinion is the Kawai GF2 but it's worth trying them side by side of you're thinking of choosing a new piano

@JaniceZoey 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony, thanks so much. After trying both pianos (ca97 and clp685), indeed i felt that the grand feel 2 is way better in my opinion. The yamaha one is heavy at the start of pressing and suddenly drop with further pressing, making it difficult to control. Thanks so much Tony for your excellent review.

@ferdearmas8732 4 жыл бұрын

mate!, which was your final choice and why?...

@nezkeys79 5 жыл бұрын

So many decisions :( I want as near to a grand piano feel as possible, as near to a grand piano sound, and as light as possible. The cheaper the better but im prepared to pay for quality. Ive played a yamaha p90 for years (along with a korg triton synth) and both are ok but looking for something a bit better now. I recently tried a kawai es110 and while it had a better piano sound on it than the p90 for the higher register, every other sound on it were pretty much the same. I have my eyes on kawai es8 / kawai mp11se or yamaha p255 / p515 but friends of mine constantly going on about nord

@nezkeys79 3 жыл бұрын

@MODGEME i bought a CP4 cheap. 500 quid on ebay. Definitely an upgrade but i really wanted a dexibell vivo s9 lol

@nezkeys79 3 жыл бұрын

@MODGEME better than the p90 but honestly not much difference

@evashades 8 жыл бұрын

Are the keys in the CA17, CA67, and CA97 individually weighted?

@bonnersmusic 8 жыл бұрын

+evashades Yes - all the keys are individually weighted and are slightly heavier in the bass end compared to the treble.

@hystericbluerock 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bonners. I am trying to buy CA17 or CLP545, and the most important for me is action feel. RM3 or NWX is more realistic? Need your professional comment.

@bonnersmusic 7 жыл бұрын

The RM3 action on the CA17 is better in my opinion because it has a longer individual key, and the pivot point is more similar to that of an acoustic piano. Come in to one of our stores to try - you can see them side-by-side (Reigate London M25 or Eastbourne South Coast).

@ferdearmas8732 4 жыл бұрын

mate!, which was your final choice and why?...

@nepomukism 3 жыл бұрын

Reminder for myself: Compare the Casio, Yamaha, Kawai real length weighted hammer action pianos. Question: Most you mentioned are stand pianos. Is there any master keyboard stage table size controller/piano in that hammer range apart from the VPC1. which feels not 100% to me. Try to get the best out of hammer action to play classic on a transportable stage controller.

@RonoTron01 4 жыл бұрын

I've noticed that you didn't go over the Roland PHA-4 action, how is the Roland PHA-4 hammer action compare to the rest of the big boys like Yamaha and Kawai?

@ferdearmas8732 4 жыл бұрын

mate!, which was your final choice and why?...

@dhamma9306 8 жыл бұрын

The Kawai CA 17 does NOT have a Grand Feel 2 action. Instead it's equiped with the RM3 Grand 2 action. A good action; but not comparable with the Grand Feel 2. These actions you will find for now only on the Kawai CA 97 and CA 67.

@bonnersmusic 8 жыл бұрын

+Dhamma Pada Yes you are right - sorry about the mistake. The RM3 Grand 2 action is still a wooden action but slightly shorter. The RM3 is still a much better piano action than the standard plastic keyboard actions found in lower range digital piano models

@MrVara411 4 жыл бұрын

Credit to the engineering in ALL of these pianos but man, the action from the Yamaha AvantGrand looks amazing.

@MikkoRantalainen 4 жыл бұрын

That sure looks like it probably most accurately follows the actual grand piano. However, it also looks like it will require equal amount of maintenance to play nicely.

@Schmidthorst69 4 жыл бұрын

It just doesn't look amazing - the feeling of playing an AvantGrand is phenomenal! :)

@maulcs 4 жыл бұрын

And it costs a shit ton

@malayaliobservant8915 3 жыл бұрын

It's not value for money

@ratjejumbo 4 жыл бұрын

What is the piece playing in the background at the beginning of the video?

@KMT888 4 жыл бұрын

"Wiosna" by Chopin =)

@ratjejumbo 4 жыл бұрын

@@KMT888 Never thought this could be Chopin. I guess this is one of his less famous pieces although it's beautiful. Thanks!

@Killhunter80 8 жыл бұрын

which is the cheapest keyboard with a great action you can recommend? :)

@bonnersmusic 8 жыл бұрын

+Hillcow If you mean a portable piano keyboard, the Yamaha P115 is excellent, as is the new Roland FP30 which is coming in April.

@RoyalDragoHunter 7 жыл бұрын

dont know if anyone anwseres these, But is there a big difference in the Grand feel 1 and grand feel 2. Poeple always complain about the gf 1 for going back up very slow. and not realistic. Any thoughts on this. I played the gf2 just recently and it feels great, but a used kawai ca 65/95 only got the gf1 and is much more cheaper.

@bonnersmusic 7 жыл бұрын

Hi. Thank you for your comment. Yes, the Grand Feel 2 has better Counterweights than the GF1, which we find more responsive, and it also has Ebony Feel on the black keys (in addition to the Ivory Feel on the white keys). Please do not hesitate to contact our Piano Specialists on 01323 636140 with any further queries.

@RoyalDragoHunter 7 жыл бұрын

Bonners Musical Instruments thanks. And how is the GF1 in comparison to the Rm3. Are the longer keys and Let off rly that Big of a differnece.?

@bonnersmusic 7 жыл бұрын

You can find all the information about the key actions at the following link: kawaius.com/digital/Features/actions.html

@Killhunter80 8 жыл бұрын

first! great comparison

@alpay389 3 жыл бұрын

why not roland pha 50 action?

@TA-jz1wz Жыл бұрын

No Roland?

@klalith8349 3 жыл бұрын

Sir, I wish to invest in a new digital piano. I did some research on KZfaq and finalised Yamaha clavinova clp 645 which had their reputed nwx action. recently in August 2020 Yamaha has launched its clp 700 series and now I am also looking at clp 7:45 which has got their new action by the name grand touch s. I tried to search online but I could not get a comparison review between both actions and hence I am confused between clp 645 with nwx action or clp 745 with grand touch s action. Kindly guide me as to which one should I choose because both digital pianos are in my budget range but I want to make an informed decision and I need your guidance in that respect. Hoping to hear from you soon. Thanks and regards:: K. Lalith , Compose email

@KIsaac-wp5dq 3 жыл бұрын

Where is Roland's PHA-4 action

@nathankinderman3655 Жыл бұрын

The casio natural grand does have a hammer i think he means that the hammer in this cut away is just for show in that it is plastic and without felt. Another Bonners music video as evidence kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bM6Fmcxkz7rXg30.html