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Dimir Turbo Mill - Historic - MTG Arena

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LegenVD

LegenVD

Күн бұрын

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@hrodvithit
@hrodvithit 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else ever notice that bonecrusher has the highest draw rate of any card in the game? I draw it in decks that it's not even in.
@deiphos4706
@deiphos4706 2 жыл бұрын
i think it's hardcoded to be 95% of the time in opening hands, and also to being able to draw 3 or 4 of them in less than 9 turns
@kharnthebetrayer1575
@kharnthebetrayer1575 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂
@vcrdidier
@vcrdidier 2 жыл бұрын
Lol!!!
@donttoywithfloris
@donttoywithfloris 2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: Splash some red mana in every deck just so you can play it.
@TCousteau
@TCousteau 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it has to do with the hand smoothing algorithm with arena bc the mana value of adventure spells are easy to curve with.
@frostcake9426
@frostcake9426 2 жыл бұрын
"Doesn't seem like our opponent is going to deal infinite damage with the valet." Today I've learned never to underestimate a Devilish Valet
@jerodast
@jerodast 2 жыл бұрын
Normally I try to stay pretty focused on videos I watch, none of this "watch stuff while I fold laundry" stuff, but this was the one game I wasn't paying so close attention to what the opponent was doing...oops. To be fair, they didn't give me that much time to do so.
@shinakagi
@shinakagi 2 жыл бұрын
The "Oh, oh..." in the end was priceless! kkkkkkkkkkkk
@devan9197
@devan9197 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly realized that I just love every video you make no matter the format.
@ogsjupiter
@ogsjupiter 2 жыл бұрын
The fact you stayed in good spirits and took it on the chin in game 8 is why everyone loves you. Keep on, sir.
@rofiifrobbaaniiaidad7682
@rofiifrobbaaniiaidad7682 2 жыл бұрын
"Did not know this was a card that existed" Me: Huh, so even gods is not omniscience
@thcdreams654
@thcdreams654 2 жыл бұрын
A chance for Evil LVD to show his quality.
@CoalitionGear
@CoalitionGear 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brutal deck, I love it. You’re so unflappable, 31:05 is probably the most reaction I’ve seen because of an opponent haha. Great sportsmanship in victory and defeat. Best MTG content creator!
@tom4465
@tom4465 2 жыл бұрын
The 2 mana, every creature creates a 1/1 is incredibly strong whoa
@NoFutureForG0uda
@NoFutureForG0uda 2 жыл бұрын
haha yeah that's absolutely overpowered
@cruelphotography
@cruelphotography 2 жыл бұрын
yeah that seems pretty dumb!
@jo4ogameplays
@jo4ogameplays 2 жыл бұрын
The crab with the knife is such a good reference
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 2 жыл бұрын
🚬 🦀
@MondSemmel
@MondSemmel 2 жыл бұрын
4:40: If you bounce Trelasarra in response to the lifegain trigger, she doesn't scry, and opponent is forced to replay 2 mana instead of 1; and more to the point, don't mill decks kind of counter scry, anyway?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point!
@matador8822
@matador8822 2 жыл бұрын
looks like very clear efficient streamlined mill deck of all. going to invest some wildcards and ty it. thanks.
@SacredMagic13679
@SacredMagic13679 2 жыл бұрын
"I did not know this was a card that existed."
@angelogabriel6862
@angelogabriel6862 2 жыл бұрын
Mill is by far my favorite decks, specially Dimir. The only deck I've kept in IRL. The addition of glimpse is awesome, but we are still so far from the true potential of this deck :( Very well played, and amazing list, as always! Keep it up!
@nmnate
@nmnate 2 жыл бұрын
Man, so many tools missing from the deck due to the card pool in historic. Love the archetype and all the salt it causes. Just another win condition. 😁
@jerodast
@jerodast 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Mill to me is just a modern take on burn where all the numbers are 3 times bigger.
@nmnate
@nmnate 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerodast Yeah, it's a good way to look at it. Just like infect. Different but kinda the same.
@RussWilgus
@RussWilgus Жыл бұрын
Try "Xanathar, Guild Kingpin" for another win condition. Mill there deck, and play there deck against them. Salt on top of Salt. :)
@thechap82
@thechap82 2 жыл бұрын
Ashiok's ability to remove the graveyard after the mill makes the ability so much better. Maybe even too good.
@nmnate
@nmnate 2 жыл бұрын
33:25 Missed a Drown in the Loch in the graveyard when you were looking for counterspells. 😉
@Baszottbivaly2
@Baszottbivaly2 24 күн бұрын
I'll never forget the hard-on I got from milling the opponent's 5 mana control deck in 2v2 with ONE Telemin Performance.
@jonathantl7553
@jonathantl7553 2 жыл бұрын
Holy god! Here it is! Dimir colors !
@terraproxy4097
@terraproxy4097 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your time and wonderful gameplay, master LegenVD.
@LaViejaConsolada
@LaViejaConsolada Жыл бұрын
what a beautiful deck ^^ Ages ago I milled my friends with a milling stone in a draw&go deck. Oh dear I had good friends back in the day to deal with that. xD
@LegenVD
@LegenVD Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@bokwangkim6108
@bokwangkim6108 2 жыл бұрын
This deck is crazy! Just won 10 games in a row. Thanks LegenVD
@jompoking
@jompoking 2 жыл бұрын
this deck is garbage. i played 5 games: 2x elves = lost, auras = lost, goblins = lost, rakdos = lost
@bokwangkim6108
@bokwangkim6108 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I was lucky. But I will keep play with this deck often
@AyZeeUA
@AyZeeUA 2 жыл бұрын
wow fastest 15 daily wins in my history so far often ppl just scoop when see you mill
@CyberBuster93
@CyberBuster93 2 жыл бұрын
Crab: "Gimme yo deck fam." Opponents: "Pffft, I'm not giving my decks to you. You're just a dumb cra...." Crab: (Pulls out knife) Opponents: (Sweating profusely) Crab: ".....you were saying?"
@Jesayou
@Jesayou 2 жыл бұрын
I hate being Milled and playing Mill but watching it is pretty cool
@grandfathernurgle2840
@grandfathernurgle2840 2 жыл бұрын
Same, but thats why I love having gaea's blessing in every historic deck as a one off. Best feeling ever is getting to the last few cards of your library just to have gaea be on the bottom put everything back into your library.
@Jesayou
@Jesayou 2 жыл бұрын
@@grandfathernurgle2840 Love the username! Sisters here lol
@sanitynotincluded4837
@sanitynotincluded4837 2 жыл бұрын
I just faced 8 mill decks in a row and nearly Uninstalled arena, just for this to pop up in my notifs. Maybe I'll finally make a midrange deck...
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 2 жыл бұрын
The only solution is more mill
@Devtronzor
@Devtronzor 2 жыл бұрын
Founding the third path is very good with glimpse the unthinkable and maddening. Maybe even better than other 2 mana enchantment.
@shunsuikyoraku3175
@shunsuikyoraku3175 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@welcomefire
@welcomefire Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I've wanted to run an aggro Mill deck for a while.
@j4rooo
@j4rooo 2 жыл бұрын
You're such a nice guy Legend. I enjoy your's videos a lot.
@TsujiCross
@TsujiCross 2 жыл бұрын
17:03 Weathered Runestone + Chemister’s Insight…? 🧐
@jerodast
@jerodast 2 жыл бұрын
What is Runestone even doing in a best of one deck? I don't know the meta, is there some play-everything-from-the-yard deck?
@Dexterity_Jones
@Dexterity_Jones 2 жыл бұрын
The one mill deck I made was the one you msde when hideous laughter came out. That deck was brutally hilarious
@rcheysnarfs2747
@rcheysnarfs2747 Жыл бұрын
I threw in a Bruvac the Grandiloquent and you'd be surprised how many people don't pay attention to it at first.
@RussWilgus
@RussWilgus Жыл бұрын
what did you take out?
@rcheysnarfs2747
@rcheysnarfs2747 Жыл бұрын
@@RussWilgus I took out 2 Tasha's Hideous Laughter and 1 Drowned Secrets and threw in 3 Bruvac the Grandiloquent. Its worth it because Bruvac makes kicking Maddening Cacophony mill the opponents ENTIRE library since half their library times two is well you know...
@RussWilgus
@RussWilgus Жыл бұрын
@@rcheysnarfs2747 haha, that's even more evil. Thank you!
@FilmColossus
@FilmColossus 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, a Historic deck this soon after a new set release? I’m happy but shocked. Once a week Historic would be great
@syferpolski4344
@syferpolski4344 2 жыл бұрын
Rope Line attendant seems crazy good for a go-wide deck
@thepincloud
@thepincloud Жыл бұрын
Bro managed to beat mono red with a mill deck. That's skill
@UnderScorePT
@UnderScorePT 2 жыл бұрын
Even LegendV sounds a little sad while playing mill decks.
@ronzonirafael
@ronzonirafael 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish we had more good responses to mill than Gaea's Blessing.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
Funny things is while testing the deck in the play queue I faced that card more than once.
@Rusaarules
@Rusaarules 2 жыл бұрын
Well, there's Clear the Mind. But that's assuming you draw it before it's milled.
@ronzonirafael
@ronzonirafael 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rusaarules Sure, but being a sorcery, we would have to deal with things like Ashiok and Tasha's Laughter yet.
@ronzonirafael
@ronzonirafael 2 жыл бұрын
@@LegenVD algorithm was testing if you really wanted to make this monstrosity. 😆
@Rusaarules
@Rusaarules 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronzonirafael True, but it is still an answer.
@ryanling7763
@ryanling7763 2 жыл бұрын
What would you slot out for founding the third path?
@5371W
@5371W Жыл бұрын
Consider or drowned secrets. I dropped consider, I'm not looking to be good, I'm looking to be lucky.
@DarkRavedgeHollow
@DarkRavedgeHollow Жыл бұрын
im looking at this vid months later but like, i figured instead of fading hope, you could probably slap in some Didnt Say Please which counters a spell and mills the opponent for 3 cards, which would be interesting i think
@fooltheroyal8691
@fooltheroyal8691 2 жыл бұрын
Always be careful of the crab with a knife.
@CatNoirVR
@CatNoirVR Жыл бұрын
Nice video LVD. Any reason why you haven't included bruvac? I may try a variant of it with bruvac and the new 1U enchantment from DMU.
@LegenVD
@LegenVD Жыл бұрын
It's not the best with Hideous Laughter and found it better to avoid creatures, especially if they don't necessarily mill anything right away.
@CatNoirVR
@CatNoirVR Жыл бұрын
@@LegenVD Thanks for the quick answer. I can see your reason especially in the fast historic meta.
@denisskenderovic3707
@denisskenderovic3707 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance, whatsoever, that you'll build an Explorer Rogues/Mill deck in the future?
@rayzhang7591
@rayzhang7591 2 жыл бұрын
Worth it to splash red for copying spells?
@janesleny728
@janesleny728 2 жыл бұрын
hey Legend, do you think Ajani can be saved? What are your thoughts on this? I was pretty heartbroken with what happened to him…
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
We can only hope.
@talamran7499
@talamran7499 2 жыл бұрын
in the end of game 7 did you cut a moment of you casting another mill spell for fun? it's ok we can understand why would you want to over mill a lifegain deck
@charlieday7731
@charlieday7731 2 жыл бұрын
Mess with the crab-o, get the stab-o.
@juventinojusef90
@juventinojusef90 2 жыл бұрын
"you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
@DamienLavizzo
@DamienLavizzo 11 ай бұрын
Any reason you didn't include a couple of Mesmeric Orbs? Is it too slow? Seems like free mill that forces the opponent to slow down a bit and punishes "hand dump" decks.
@SSJSephiroth
@SSJSephiroth Жыл бұрын
So degenerate I love it. Thought demir rogue mill was nasty then I see this!!!
@garageink74
@garageink74 2 жыл бұрын
the real question is how did you not face goblins and elves ever game?
@klivermax
@klivermax 2 жыл бұрын
Couse he lost those games without any chance.
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 2 жыл бұрын
You edit out the first 3 losses to red aggro
@collin4555
@collin4555 2 жыл бұрын
"Opponent just going for the throat here" No, Go For The Throat targets a creature ;)
@jerodast
@jerodast 2 жыл бұрын
🙄👏
@matew1879
@matew1879 11 ай бұрын
personally i find that Watery Grave 4x and Drowned Catacomb 2x are more suitable in this deck.
@WobblezTheWeird
@WobblezTheWeird 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered the new 2 mana saga? With glimpse it's 24 cards over 3 turns for 4 mana over 2 turns
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah could be solid in the deck for sure.
@What-fv1yl
@What-fv1yl 2 жыл бұрын
i see mill, i click
@m.fraguelaxd2546
@m.fraguelaxd2546 2 жыл бұрын
Founding of the third path from dominaria united would be probably incredibly good in this deck
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, can see it slotting in nicely. Recorded this before Dominaria sadly.
@hipnohippy
@hipnohippy Жыл бұрын
@@LegenVDI'd guess it is wise to have 4 of them? Is it ok to remove 2 Cacophony, 1 Ashiok and 1 Laughter for that, or you'd remove something else, may I ask?
@goreobsessed2308
@goreobsessed2308 2 жыл бұрын
This seems like it would do great in best of 3 whith a switch up side board. Can go rogues removal for aggro or do just this for control
@FuryofTiamat-Flip
@FuryofTiamat-Flip Жыл бұрын
Nice
@TheBlueMuzzy
@TheBlueMuzzy 2 жыл бұрын
do you think that new blue bounce spell with a kicker could make it into here comfortably? Maybe in place of consider?
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 2 жыл бұрын
Good ol' Mill. It doesn't always work. In fact, it frequently doesn't. But when it does, it's so satisfying.
@lachlank.8270
@lachlank.8270 2 жыл бұрын
When and why did crabs become the theme animal for milling?
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 2 жыл бұрын
If short a couple cards how's about adding 1 mana instant slip out the back door
@silviobaiguini69420
@silviobaiguini69420 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody knows what does the prefix turbo- mean for some decks? Like turbofog, turbomill etc...
@corpsefoot758
@corpsefoot758 2 жыл бұрын
Probably just means “really fast”
@C00PDA
@C00PDA 2 жыл бұрын
It usually denotes a high degree of specialization in the deck's nominal strategy. e.g., the recent "rogues mill" standard deck could be considered a hybrid tempo/mill strategy since it could win by milling or by attacking, whereas this deck can be called "turbo mill" since pretty much all the cards just mill, and milling is the only way this deck plans to win.
@Sibula
@Sibula 2 жыл бұрын
It's short for "turbo xerox" which is like a 20-30 year old and still very popular piece of MTG theory. Basically the idea is to play less lands and lots of cheap cantrips. This way you're as likely to hit your land drops but can also find any other card more easily. The strategy is extra good if you can make other use of the cheap spells like in a delver or prowess deck. I have no idea why LVD called this one turbo though, as it doesn't follow the principle.
@silviobaiguini69420
@silviobaiguini69420 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Thanks for all the kind answers!
@tb1912
@tb1912 Жыл бұрын
Is there a reason for Consider over Opt that I missed?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD Жыл бұрын
Usually need a reason to play Opt over Consider. Getting rid of bad cards is great when you end up shuffling the deck.
@seilaoquemvc2
@seilaoquemvc2 2 жыл бұрын
Founding the third path would be very good in this deck
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, didn't have it yet when this video was recorded.
@tholdrin
@tholdrin 2 жыл бұрын
This is evil.
@LyseanEmpire
@LyseanEmpire 2 жыл бұрын
ln the first match you could've bounced Trelasara in response to Soul Warden's triggered ability, correct? Or am l missing something?
@alexcebollero
@alexcebollero 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but they would have still gotten to scary their deck for 1.
@LyseanEmpire
@LyseanEmpire 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexcebollero No they wouldn't since that would trigger only if Trelasara was on the battlefield when the trigger of the lifegain resolved since the ability is "When you gain life get a counter and scry 1"
@maciek19882
@maciek19882 2 жыл бұрын
I think Founding of the third path would be great in this deck
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
Could definitely see it slotting in.
@jeffadams9807
@jeffadams9807 Ай бұрын
Add - x4 TOXIC DELUGES For Board Control...
@LegenVD
@LegenVD Ай бұрын
That card wasn't on Arena when this deck was built, this is a very outdated video.
@mauromapelli4836
@mauromapelli4836 2 жыл бұрын
Would you put it "Cut your losses" or is it too slow?
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
Too slow for Historic.
@kensw87
@kensw87 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I call bs in that alchemy card
@HeatIIEXTEND
@HeatIIEXTEND 2 жыл бұрын
dayum
@ryanbolson23
@ryanbolson23 Жыл бұрын
Dude plays flashback with runestone isn’t that just a direct counter to themselves?
@bruofdias
@bruofdias 2 жыл бұрын
nice deck!!! let me ask you a question! If you would have to choose just 1 deck for explorer or historic to change your wildcards.. which deck would be??? Thanks!!!
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
Depends which play style you like!
@maciek19882
@maciek19882 2 жыл бұрын
I went for green 💚 stompy
@MrNLimaJunior
@MrNLimaJunior 2 жыл бұрын
Make a Liliana deck for Historic, pleeease!
@ericsalscheider4961
@ericsalscheider4961 2 жыл бұрын
Why fading hope instead of rona's vortex? its better removal
@sladjanavukas5420
@sladjanavukas5420 2 жыл бұрын
You can save ur crabs
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
Recorded this before Dominaria, but still prefer Fading Hope for Scry and targeting our own creatures.
@Robesproges
@Robesproges 2 жыл бұрын
I hope an upvote will excuse the big (hideous) laugh I just had during the 8th game.
@brent0034
@brent0034 2 жыл бұрын
Love me some Mill
@davestier6247
@davestier6247 2 жыл бұрын
Not playing mill really provides a lot of value
@HighLanderPonyYT
@HighLanderPonyYT 2 жыл бұрын
Ontuh De Nex'Twan
@rabidcabbage7230
@rabidcabbage7230 Жыл бұрын
👍
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 2 жыл бұрын
Add fabled passage
@LegenVD
@LegenVD 2 жыл бұрын
I talk about it in the intro.
@ExaDat
@ExaDat 2 жыл бұрын
I love your video and the fact that you play all types of decks instead of focusing on your favourite. But fuck mill.
@checkthenutz
@checkthenutz Жыл бұрын
Slot in 2 bruvac somewhere for the love of Christ.
@Sixx2099
@Sixx2099 2 жыл бұрын
Let them suffer 😈
@Godonstilts
@Godonstilts Жыл бұрын
Tried this deck, and I get put up against nothing but aggro and get rinsed everytime. 0/11 and counting...
@LeFerret335
@LeFerret335 2 жыл бұрын
Miiiiiiiiiiill
@klumhru
@klumhru Жыл бұрын
Good video and play. Sad to see that this miserable archetype still exists in MTG, 25 years after millstone was printed, but glad that all but two of the wins were against mana screwed oppos.
@antoniomendes7171
@antoniomendes7171 2 жыл бұрын
Looking for a list like this thanks a lot
@theaeskey2502
@theaeskey2502 2 жыл бұрын
♥️ J. Jameson, Dai, Stefano, David, User 138 and Fifo.
@grandfathernurgle2840
@grandfathernurgle2840 2 жыл бұрын
Mill never is a problem for me since I often use 100-130 card decks in historic and have at least one gae'as blessing in every deck.
@jerodast
@jerodast 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see him face mono black magic some day and fail to mill out by just 1 card.
@yeefyeet4925
@yeefyeet4925 2 жыл бұрын
3rd or 4th
@kharnthebetrayer1575
@kharnthebetrayer1575 2 жыл бұрын
Why I don’t like historic , those damn broken cards that give perpetual and other dumb stuff . Standard and Explorer only for this guy.
@theaeskey2502
@theaeskey2502 2 жыл бұрын
Bam!
@theaeskey2502
@theaeskey2502 2 жыл бұрын
1st
@theaeskey2502
@theaeskey2502 2 жыл бұрын
@@Big_Dai no because I’m first.
@theaeskey2502
@theaeskey2502 2 жыл бұрын
@@Big_Dai Y U MAD ♥️
@RealClassixX
@RealClassixX 2 жыл бұрын
How old are you that such a thing matters to you?
@myojinofnightsreach346
@myojinofnightsreach346 2 жыл бұрын
@@theaeskey2502 You are not, it seems. Check the "newest" comment and scroll down
@theaeskey2502
@theaeskey2502 2 жыл бұрын
@@myojinofnightsreach346 yes i am.
@antoniomendes7171
@antoniomendes7171 2 жыл бұрын
But the deck needs aome changes to be honest. 4 ashioks seems a lot maybe cut o e for a single bruvac also cut consider and put the enchantment from dominaria united that is blue a d uncommon .
@TheTrooper424
@TheTrooper424 2 жыл бұрын
Look, there are 1k+ ways to make a deck, and you can't please everyone. Let's not be dismissive just because you think you know it all.
@Sibula
@Sibula 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrooper424 1k+ is quite an understatement. There are something like 20 000 unique cards that can build around 10^14000 different legal decks give or take a few thousand zeros. Even counting just the ones legal in historic that someone has actually played the number is probably over 10k.
@antoniomendes7171
@antoniomendes7171 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrooper424 yes and i am not being dismissive but in historic you need to do things every turn because turn 3 everything is over example heliod combo neoform combo and so on. But i am a fan of legenvd and i loved he making a mill deck
@MegaTunamelt
@MegaTunamelt Жыл бұрын
Mill is the stupidest archetype.
@klivermax
@klivermax 2 жыл бұрын
I hightly don't recomment to spend any wildcards on this. Yeah deck is fun for 2 games and complitely unplayable. Idk why LVD make this complitely junk video.
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