Anyone else ever notice that bonecrusher has the highest draw rate of any card in the game? I draw it in decks that it's not even in.
@deiphos47062 жыл бұрын
i think it's hardcoded to be 95% of the time in opening hands, and also to being able to draw 3 or 4 of them in less than 9 turns
@kharnthebetrayer15752 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂
@vcrdidier2 жыл бұрын
Lol!!!
@donttoywithfloris2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: Splash some red mana in every deck just so you can play it.
@TCousteau2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it has to do with the hand smoothing algorithm with arena bc the mana value of adventure spells are easy to curve with.
@frostcake94262 жыл бұрын
"Doesn't seem like our opponent is going to deal infinite damage with the valet." Today I've learned never to underestimate a Devilish Valet
@jerodast2 жыл бұрын
Normally I try to stay pretty focused on videos I watch, none of this "watch stuff while I fold laundry" stuff, but this was the one game I wasn't paying so close attention to what the opponent was doing...oops. To be fair, they didn't give me that much time to do so.
@shinakagi2 жыл бұрын
The "Oh, oh..." in the end was priceless! kkkkkkkkkkkk
@devan91972 жыл бұрын
Honestly realized that I just love every video you make no matter the format.
@ogsjupiter2 жыл бұрын
The fact you stayed in good spirits and took it on the chin in game 8 is why everyone loves you. Keep on, sir.
@rofiifrobbaaniiaidad76822 жыл бұрын
"Did not know this was a card that existed" Me: Huh, so even gods is not omniscience
@thcdreams6542 жыл бұрын
A chance for Evil LVD to show his quality.
@CoalitionGear2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brutal deck, I love it. You’re so unflappable, 31:05 is probably the most reaction I’ve seen because of an opponent haha. Great sportsmanship in victory and defeat. Best MTG content creator!
@tom44652 жыл бұрын
The 2 mana, every creature creates a 1/1 is incredibly strong whoa
@NoFutureForG0uda2 жыл бұрын
haha yeah that's absolutely overpowered
@cruelphotography2 жыл бұрын
yeah that seems pretty dumb!
@jo4ogameplays2 жыл бұрын
The crab with the knife is such a good reference
@lachlank.82702 жыл бұрын
🚬 🦀
@MondSemmel2 жыл бұрын
4:40: If you bounce Trelasarra in response to the lifegain trigger, she doesn't scry, and opponent is forced to replay 2 mana instead of 1; and more to the point, don't mill decks kind of counter scry, anyway?
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point!
@matador88222 жыл бұрын
looks like very clear efficient streamlined mill deck of all. going to invest some wildcards and ty it. thanks.
@SacredMagic136792 жыл бұрын
"I did not know this was a card that existed."
@angelogabriel68622 жыл бұрын
Mill is by far my favorite decks, specially Dimir. The only deck I've kept in IRL. The addition of glimpse is awesome, but we are still so far from the true potential of this deck :( Very well played, and amazing list, as always! Keep it up!
@nmnate2 жыл бұрын
Man, so many tools missing from the deck due to the card pool in historic. Love the archetype and all the salt it causes. Just another win condition. 😁
@jerodast2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Mill to me is just a modern take on burn where all the numbers are 3 times bigger.
@nmnate2 жыл бұрын
@@jerodast Yeah, it's a good way to look at it. Just like infect. Different but kinda the same.
@RussWilgus Жыл бұрын
Try "Xanathar, Guild Kingpin" for another win condition. Mill there deck, and play there deck against them. Salt on top of Salt. :)
@thechap822 жыл бұрын
Ashiok's ability to remove the graveyard after the mill makes the ability so much better. Maybe even too good.
@nmnate2 жыл бұрын
33:25 Missed a Drown in the Loch in the graveyard when you were looking for counterspells. 😉
@Baszottbivaly224 күн бұрын
I'll never forget the hard-on I got from milling the opponent's 5 mana control deck in 2v2 with ONE Telemin Performance.
@jonathantl75532 жыл бұрын
Holy god! Here it is! Dimir colors !
@terraproxy40972 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your time and wonderful gameplay, master LegenVD.
@LaViejaConsolada Жыл бұрын
what a beautiful deck ^^ Ages ago I milled my friends with a milling stone in a draw&go deck. Oh dear I had good friends back in the day to deal with that. xD
@LegenVD Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@bokwangkim61082 жыл бұрын
This deck is crazy! Just won 10 games in a row. Thanks LegenVD
@jompoking2 жыл бұрын
this deck is garbage. i played 5 games: 2x elves = lost, auras = lost, goblins = lost, rakdos = lost
@bokwangkim61082 жыл бұрын
Maybe I was lucky. But I will keep play with this deck often
@AyZeeUA2 жыл бұрын
wow fastest 15 daily wins in my history so far often ppl just scoop when see you mill
@CyberBuster932 жыл бұрын
Crab: "Gimme yo deck fam." Opponents: "Pffft, I'm not giving my decks to you. You're just a dumb cra...." Crab: (Pulls out knife) Opponents: (Sweating profusely) Crab: ".....you were saying?"
@Jesayou2 жыл бұрын
I hate being Milled and playing Mill but watching it is pretty cool
@grandfathernurgle28402 жыл бұрын
Same, but thats why I love having gaea's blessing in every historic deck as a one off. Best feeling ever is getting to the last few cards of your library just to have gaea be on the bottom put everything back into your library.
@Jesayou2 жыл бұрын
@@grandfathernurgle2840 Love the username! Sisters here lol
@sanitynotincluded48372 жыл бұрын
I just faced 8 mill decks in a row and nearly Uninstalled arena, just for this to pop up in my notifs. Maybe I'll finally make a midrange deck...
@lachlank.82702 жыл бұрын
The only solution is more mill
@Devtronzor2 жыл бұрын
Founding the third path is very good with glimpse the unthinkable and maddening. Maybe even better than other 2 mana enchantment.
@shunsuikyoraku31752 жыл бұрын
So true
@welcomefire Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, I've wanted to run an aggro Mill deck for a while.
@j4rooo2 жыл бұрын
You're such a nice guy Legend. I enjoy your's videos a lot.
What is Runestone even doing in a best of one deck? I don't know the meta, is there some play-everything-from-the-yard deck?
@Dexterity_Jones2 жыл бұрын
The one mill deck I made was the one you msde when hideous laughter came out. That deck was brutally hilarious
@rcheysnarfs2747 Жыл бұрын
I threw in a Bruvac the Grandiloquent and you'd be surprised how many people don't pay attention to it at first.
@RussWilgus Жыл бұрын
what did you take out?
@rcheysnarfs2747 Жыл бұрын
@@RussWilgus I took out 2 Tasha's Hideous Laughter and 1 Drowned Secrets and threw in 3 Bruvac the Grandiloquent. Its worth it because Bruvac makes kicking Maddening Cacophony mill the opponents ENTIRE library since half their library times two is well you know...
@RussWilgus Жыл бұрын
@@rcheysnarfs2747 haha, that's even more evil. Thank you!
@FilmColossus2 жыл бұрын
Wait, a Historic deck this soon after a new set release? I’m happy but shocked. Once a week Historic would be great
@syferpolski43442 жыл бұрын
Rope Line attendant seems crazy good for a go-wide deck
@thepincloud Жыл бұрын
Bro managed to beat mono red with a mill deck. That's skill
@UnderScorePT2 жыл бұрын
Even LegendV sounds a little sad while playing mill decks.
@ronzonirafael2 жыл бұрын
I really wish we had more good responses to mill than Gaea's Blessing.
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
Funny things is while testing the deck in the play queue I faced that card more than once.
@Rusaarules2 жыл бұрын
Well, there's Clear the Mind. But that's assuming you draw it before it's milled.
@ronzonirafael2 жыл бұрын
@@Rusaarules Sure, but being a sorcery, we would have to deal with things like Ashiok and Tasha's Laughter yet.
@ronzonirafael2 жыл бұрын
@@LegenVD algorithm was testing if you really wanted to make this monstrosity. 😆
@Rusaarules2 жыл бұрын
@@ronzonirafael True, but it is still an answer.
@ryanling77632 жыл бұрын
What would you slot out for founding the third path?
@5371W Жыл бұрын
Consider or drowned secrets. I dropped consider, I'm not looking to be good, I'm looking to be lucky.
@DarkRavedgeHollow Жыл бұрын
im looking at this vid months later but like, i figured instead of fading hope, you could probably slap in some Didnt Say Please which counters a spell and mills the opponent for 3 cards, which would be interesting i think
@fooltheroyal86912 жыл бұрын
Always be careful of the crab with a knife.
@CatNoirVR Жыл бұрын
Nice video LVD. Any reason why you haven't included bruvac? I may try a variant of it with bruvac and the new 1U enchantment from DMU.
@LegenVD Жыл бұрын
It's not the best with Hideous Laughter and found it better to avoid creatures, especially if they don't necessarily mill anything right away.
@CatNoirVR Жыл бұрын
@@LegenVD Thanks for the quick answer. I can see your reason especially in the fast historic meta.
@denisskenderovic37072 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance, whatsoever, that you'll build an Explorer Rogues/Mill deck in the future?
@rayzhang75912 жыл бұрын
Worth it to splash red for copying spells?
@janesleny7282 жыл бұрын
hey Legend, do you think Ajani can be saved? What are your thoughts on this? I was pretty heartbroken with what happened to him…
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
We can only hope.
@talamran74992 жыл бұрын
in the end of game 7 did you cut a moment of you casting another mill spell for fun? it's ok we can understand why would you want to over mill a lifegain deck
@charlieday77312 жыл бұрын
Mess with the crab-o, get the stab-o.
@juventinojusef902 жыл бұрын
"you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
@DamienLavizzo11 ай бұрын
Any reason you didn't include a couple of Mesmeric Orbs? Is it too slow? Seems like free mill that forces the opponent to slow down a bit and punishes "hand dump" decks.
@SSJSephiroth Жыл бұрын
So degenerate I love it. Thought demir rogue mill was nasty then I see this!!!
@garageink742 жыл бұрын
the real question is how did you not face goblins and elves ever game?
@klivermax2 жыл бұрын
Couse he lost those games without any chance.
@lachlank.82702 жыл бұрын
You edit out the first 3 losses to red aggro
@collin45552 жыл бұрын
"Opponent just going for the throat here" No, Go For The Throat targets a creature ;)
@jerodast2 жыл бұрын
🙄👏
@matew187911 ай бұрын
personally i find that Watery Grave 4x and Drowned Catacomb 2x are more suitable in this deck.
@WobblezTheWeird2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered the new 2 mana saga? With glimpse it's 24 cards over 3 turns for 4 mana over 2 turns
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
Yeah could be solid in the deck for sure.
@What-fv1yl2 жыл бұрын
i see mill, i click
@m.fraguelaxd25462 жыл бұрын
Founding of the third path from dominaria united would be probably incredibly good in this deck
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
Yes, can see it slotting in nicely. Recorded this before Dominaria sadly.
@hipnohippy Жыл бұрын
@@LegenVDI'd guess it is wise to have 4 of them? Is it ok to remove 2 Cacophony, 1 Ashiok and 1 Laughter for that, or you'd remove something else, may I ask?
@goreobsessed23082 жыл бұрын
This seems like it would do great in best of 3 whith a switch up side board. Can go rogues removal for aggro or do just this for control
@FuryofTiamat-Flip Жыл бұрын
Nice
@TheBlueMuzzy2 жыл бұрын
do you think that new blue bounce spell with a kicker could make it into here comfortably? Maybe in place of consider?
@Bluecho42 жыл бұрын
Good ol' Mill. It doesn't always work. In fact, it frequently doesn't. But when it does, it's so satisfying.
@lachlank.82702 жыл бұрын
When and why did crabs become the theme animal for milling?
@sophiethesloth2 жыл бұрын
If short a couple cards how's about adding 1 mana instant slip out the back door
@silviobaiguini694202 жыл бұрын
Anybody knows what does the prefix turbo- mean for some decks? Like turbofog, turbomill etc...
@corpsefoot7582 жыл бұрын
Probably just means “really fast”
@C00PDA2 жыл бұрын
It usually denotes a high degree of specialization in the deck's nominal strategy. e.g., the recent "rogues mill" standard deck could be considered a hybrid tempo/mill strategy since it could win by milling or by attacking, whereas this deck can be called "turbo mill" since pretty much all the cards just mill, and milling is the only way this deck plans to win.
@Sibula2 жыл бұрын
It's short for "turbo xerox" which is like a 20-30 year old and still very popular piece of MTG theory. Basically the idea is to play less lands and lots of cheap cantrips. This way you're as likely to hit your land drops but can also find any other card more easily. The strategy is extra good if you can make other use of the cheap spells like in a delver or prowess deck. I have no idea why LVD called this one turbo though, as it doesn't follow the principle.
@silviobaiguini694202 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Thanks for all the kind answers!
@tb1912 Жыл бұрын
Is there a reason for Consider over Opt that I missed?
@LegenVD Жыл бұрын
Usually need a reason to play Opt over Consider. Getting rid of bad cards is great when you end up shuffling the deck.
@seilaoquemvc22 жыл бұрын
Founding the third path would be very good in this deck
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, didn't have it yet when this video was recorded.
@tholdrin2 жыл бұрын
This is evil.
@LyseanEmpire2 жыл бұрын
ln the first match you could've bounced Trelasara in response to Soul Warden's triggered ability, correct? Or am l missing something?
@alexcebollero2 жыл бұрын
Yes but they would have still gotten to scary their deck for 1.
@LyseanEmpire2 жыл бұрын
@@alexcebollero No they wouldn't since that would trigger only if Trelasara was on the battlefield when the trigger of the lifegain resolved since the ability is "When you gain life get a counter and scry 1"
@maciek198822 жыл бұрын
I think Founding of the third path would be great in this deck
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
Could definitely see it slotting in.
@jeffadams9807Ай бұрын
Add - x4 TOXIC DELUGES For Board Control...
@LegenVDАй бұрын
That card wasn't on Arena when this deck was built, this is a very outdated video.
@mauromapelli48362 жыл бұрын
Would you put it "Cut your losses" or is it too slow?
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
Too slow for Historic.
@kensw872 жыл бұрын
yeah I call bs in that alchemy card
@HeatIIEXTEND2 жыл бұрын
dayum
@ryanbolson23 Жыл бұрын
Dude plays flashback with runestone isn’t that just a direct counter to themselves?
@bruofdias2 жыл бұрын
nice deck!!! let me ask you a question! If you would have to choose just 1 deck for explorer or historic to change your wildcards.. which deck would be??? Thanks!!!
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
Depends which play style you like!
@maciek198822 жыл бұрын
I went for green 💚 stompy
@MrNLimaJunior2 жыл бұрын
Make a Liliana deck for Historic, pleeease!
@ericsalscheider49612 жыл бұрын
Why fading hope instead of rona's vortex? its better removal
@sladjanavukas54202 жыл бұрын
You can save ur crabs
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
Recorded this before Dominaria, but still prefer Fading Hope for Scry and targeting our own creatures.
@Robesproges2 жыл бұрын
I hope an upvote will excuse the big (hideous) laugh I just had during the 8th game.
@brent00342 жыл бұрын
Love me some Mill
@davestier62472 жыл бұрын
Not playing mill really provides a lot of value
@HighLanderPonyYT2 жыл бұрын
Ontuh De Nex'Twan
@rabidcabbage7230 Жыл бұрын
👍
@sophiethesloth2 жыл бұрын
Add fabled passage
@LegenVD2 жыл бұрын
I talk about it in the intro.
@ExaDat2 жыл бұрын
I love your video and the fact that you play all types of decks instead of focusing on your favourite. But fuck mill.
@checkthenutz Жыл бұрын
Slot in 2 bruvac somewhere for the love of Christ.
@Sixx20992 жыл бұрын
Let them suffer 😈
@Godonstilts Жыл бұрын
Tried this deck, and I get put up against nothing but aggro and get rinsed everytime. 0/11 and counting...
@LeFerret3352 жыл бұрын
Miiiiiiiiiiill
@klumhru Жыл бұрын
Good video and play. Sad to see that this miserable archetype still exists in MTG, 25 years after millstone was printed, but glad that all but two of the wins were against mana screwed oppos.
@antoniomendes71712 жыл бұрын
Looking for a list like this thanks a lot
@theaeskey25022 жыл бұрын
♥️ J. Jameson, Dai, Stefano, David, User 138 and Fifo.
@grandfathernurgle28402 жыл бұрын
Mill never is a problem for me since I often use 100-130 card decks in historic and have at least one gae'as blessing in every deck.
@jerodast2 жыл бұрын
I want to see him face mono black magic some day and fail to mill out by just 1 card.
@yeefyeet49252 жыл бұрын
3rd or 4th
@kharnthebetrayer15752 жыл бұрын
Why I don’t like historic , those damn broken cards that give perpetual and other dumb stuff . Standard and Explorer only for this guy.
@theaeskey25022 жыл бұрын
Bam!
@theaeskey25022 жыл бұрын
1st
@theaeskey25022 жыл бұрын
@@Big_Dai no because I’m first.
@theaeskey25022 жыл бұрын
@@Big_Dai Y U MAD ♥️
@RealClassixX2 жыл бұрын
How old are you that such a thing matters to you?
@myojinofnightsreach3462 жыл бұрын
@@theaeskey2502 You are not, it seems. Check the "newest" comment and scroll down
@theaeskey25022 жыл бұрын
@@myojinofnightsreach346 yes i am.
@antoniomendes71712 жыл бұрын
But the deck needs aome changes to be honest. 4 ashioks seems a lot maybe cut o e for a single bruvac also cut consider and put the enchantment from dominaria united that is blue a d uncommon .
@TheTrooper4242 жыл бұрын
Look, there are 1k+ ways to make a deck, and you can't please everyone. Let's not be dismissive just because you think you know it all.
@Sibula2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrooper424 1k+ is quite an understatement. There are something like 20 000 unique cards that can build around 10^14000 different legal decks give or take a few thousand zeros. Even counting just the ones legal in historic that someone has actually played the number is probably over 10k.
@antoniomendes71712 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrooper424 yes and i am not being dismissive but in historic you need to do things every turn because turn 3 everything is over example heliod combo neoform combo and so on. But i am a fan of legenvd and i loved he making a mill deck
@MegaTunamelt Жыл бұрын
Mill is the stupidest archetype.
@klivermax2 жыл бұрын
I hightly don't recomment to spend any wildcards on this. Yeah deck is fun for 2 games and complitely unplayable. Idk why LVD make this complitely junk video.