Dino Stalker: DC Retrospective

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Ok so get this. Dino Crisis, the game created to bring survival horror back to its roots, ended up going arcade action, and then when it came time to make a 3rd games, capcom decided to roll it into the Gun Survivor series. A spin off franchise under the Resident Evil banner. Man, talk about a confusing family tree! Well let's see if this light gun, dinosaur extinction simulator fits into the normal DC games.............it doesn't.
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@SnappleRyRy89 5 жыл бұрын

Anyone else think of that old Jurassic Park arcade rail shooter game at Chuck E Cheeses from the early 90s? Looks like this game would work better as a rail shooter in honor of that. Also, glad to be supporting you Jared as long as you keep up the good work! Glad I listened to Jimmy Hapa and Super Derek's recommendations on other youtubers :D

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

I think you're right, this game would have been better if it fully commited to the rail shooter thing, or the fps thing. Not both. Also, big thanks for the support. Jimmy and Derek are the fucking best!

@Gruntvc 5 жыл бұрын

Never played that one, but I did love the rail shooter made for The Lost World Jurassic Park by Sega.

@Shdowstorm Жыл бұрын

We had the same thought about making a comment like this. Yes! I have played that game at a theme park, some random guy played the game with me even though I said no. I am still mad at that guy for ruining my no hit with high score streak.

@Kains_Gaming_Channel 5 жыл бұрын

Let's all just say that Tyrannosaurus Rex intro was awesome. But how dare they bring Dylan back and no mention of Regina.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!!!!!

@igodreamer7096 5 жыл бұрын

Indeed, like wtf is this? No word from the MAIN character? At all!?!?

@Gruntvc 5 жыл бұрын

Capcom lost the plot I guess?

@yoman8027 5 жыл бұрын

I've read something about that but I can't confirm its veracity. Apparently, Regina's face model used the badly written contract she had with Capcom to claim that portraying Regina was using her image and she had to be paid for every game she was featured. Since the issue wasn't resolved yet Capcom was forced to shelve Regina and not even mention her or they'd have to pay said model. As I said, there's no proof of it, but it could explain why she vanished from Capcom's products for so long despite being a very popular character.

@igodreamer7096 5 жыл бұрын

@@yoman8027 sad story

@SurfbyShootin 4 жыл бұрын

The aesthetic of this game is one of my favorite. The UI + HUD is beautiful and the combination of futuristic high-tech and natural environments are memorable as well.

@FearTheBeans 5 жыл бұрын

This is the only game of this series i've played, and i didnt know it was related to any series. I only used a controller because i never knew light guns existed. The game wasnt anything crazy or ground breaking but i enjoyed playing it.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I can understand why you didn't know it was connected to DC. I agree. It's nothing special, but pretty fun overall.

@takezokimura2571 4 жыл бұрын

6:42 I actually played this game to know what happened after Dino Crisis 2, and it brought some peace to my heart.

@kibowman 5 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the hell out of this game way back in the PS2 era. Good times.

@vaugna1620 5 жыл бұрын

Slightly unrelated, but Lost Planet 1 has a controller setting to move the reticle independently in a small area and it's lowkey the best feeling shooter controls I've ever felt on a controller.

@RaceToNowhere 5 жыл бұрын

Imagine a Dino Thingie done in the engine and style of Lostu Planetru

@HybridAngelZero 5 жыл бұрын

Ah, at least we still have one good Jared left ;^; I honestly love how batshit insane the stories in many of Capcom's spin-off games are. Also, I can't help but wonder if the odd aiming controls are due to a large number of people in Japan suffering from motion sickness, even in a lot of standard FPS. Also, I think I am the hipster nerd friend you described 😭

@specknacken6507 5 жыл бұрын

Shout outs to ThorHighHeels legendary Dino Crisis rant in his Dino Stalker review.

@brianboniuk1072 5 жыл бұрын

I knew someone else would find ThorHighHeels and quote his bizarre reviews

@jakster16 5 жыл бұрын

@@brianboniuk1072 his policenauts review is one of his best.

@theretrogamers7690 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know why Capcom didn't take advantage of the PS2 and give us a new mainline entry to the DC games, especially since that console wasn't supposed to get any mainline RE games. Dino Crisis 2 was one of my favorite games as a kid, and I just wanted to see that story progress.

@ShinobiNeon 5 жыл бұрын

It's really too bad Capcom couldn't just make traditional fps controls and instead tried something "experimental". It's like they're trying to reinvent the wheel when the wheels we already have work just fine. But yeah, l was thinking the same thing you mentioned - what even IS Dino Crisis at this point? Every game in the series is a different genre. This one looks fun, but doesn't seem to have a lot of replay value, so that's a dealbreaker for me.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you hit it right on the head. After you finish this game, there's no real reward for a 2nd run.

@SpacePrez 4 жыл бұрын

Its a light gun game. I can't believe nobody is talking about this. This is a guncon game. The controls make sense when you understand that. If you don't like light gun games, that's fine, but you can't really blame them for trying new things.

@matics898 5 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you're going all out with this series. I thought you were just gonna cover DC 1, 2 and 3.

@SG-kp2ql 4 жыл бұрын

this game was a trip, rented it one week and couldnt stop playing. reminded me of the jurassic park arcade games but you control your character not just the gun

@edfire5777 5 жыл бұрын

"do it Paula" FBI open up!

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

HAAA!

@silentxero5955 5 жыл бұрын

Dude, I love your videos and I wish that I could support you, but for the moment, I cannot. Thank you for the Amazing content.

@jjenk911 5 жыл бұрын

Well, better late than never. Good to see you, Mr. Jared.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, accidentally set it to pm and not am. Rookie mistake

@caaltaes732 5 жыл бұрын

Dino Crisis is like Dinosaurs everyone has their own idea of what they are; I mean first they were thought to be dragons by people of the past, then the general idea they were related to modern reptiles and now we know they have most in common with birds

@Maesterful 5 жыл бұрын

Great games for different reasons, I loved the second in particular except for the fecking underwater section.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

I won't lie, I kind of liked the underwater section this time around. I used to hate it, but this playthrough, it kind of pulled me in.

@Maesterful 5 жыл бұрын

@@AvalancheReviews Wow really? I personally can't stand underwater sections and this game along with Kotor were my least favourite sections in my top games of all time. Oh yeah and Sonic. That was the worst.

@rollins1212 5 жыл бұрын

this is one of those games that are just there like not super bad but just there, lucky us we have you doing your retrospectives on this, I really enjoyed this and I love your content keep it up!

@epicmaj8r 3 жыл бұрын

I consider this the real DC3. The other one...doesn't exist in my eyes

@NikhchansGaming 3 жыл бұрын

12:02 Haha.."Pitch black tyrannosaurus" It's both terrifying and hilarious.

@BAIGAMING 5 жыл бұрын

1:25 to skip the ads

@Gruntvc 5 жыл бұрын

You're one of the few KZfaqrs I still enjoy watching and offer great advice for games. Thanks for that. I think I have this game, but I think Time Crisis was better. At least this one didn't kill the franchise like DC3. Still hoping for a DC remake/rebirth.

@DoodlesGaming 5 жыл бұрын

I didn't even know this game existed until a few years ago Can't wait to hear your take on Dino Crisis 3 I remember back in 2007 when I was getting back into gaming, after a few years of not really playing, I bought a copy of Dino Crisis 3 and wasn't too impressed with it

@alexandermejicano6074 9 ай бұрын

Dino Stalker nostalgia to those summer in the 4th grade 👌🏾💯 loved it.

@HyperG707 5 жыл бұрын

This game is kinda like Time Crisis with Dinosaurs on a rail shooter but this one looks hella fun. I don't remember this game at all growing up. I enjoy the dino crisis retrospective so far, keep it up man. Looking forward to the next video Jared.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Working on the DC3 video right now, and I think it's gonna be a good one.

@birdman9632 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. I always love watching your videos and I love your reviews of games

@palaiologos4441 5 жыл бұрын

Dino Crisis 3-because going to space worked with Jason, Hellraiser, and the fraggin' Leprechaun.

@RepublicTrooper125 3 жыл бұрын

Years ago in 4th grade I had a Jurassic park dream, I was fighting a carnotaur and the hud was similar to this game. I didn’t play this game until last year!

@juanmartinstehle5047 2 жыл бұрын

Despite of being a game with mix results, this is the true Dino Crisis 3.

@Sonicx360isback 4 жыл бұрын

This is the closest game we ever got to the home console port of The Lost World arcade shooter.

@samrhino9224 5 жыл бұрын

I just played this game recently with the guncon, and your criticisms are pretty spot on. The game is rough, and the controls are sloppy either way, but once you get into the groove it is indeed a dumb enjoyable shooter. And if you're a lightgun fanatic like I am, it's really neat to play one you can move around in, this and the Resi Survivor games are just such fun unique games if you're willing to deal with some major bullshit. Anyways I look forwards to the next Dino Crisis episode, it's great to finally see some one cover these games, and do it well.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I always end up having fun with the gun survivor games.........except 2. Glad to provide a little well needed love to the Dino Crisis series!

@rucikamila9101 4 жыл бұрын

best thing of this game is that they did the scare-factor of the giant dinos so fucking right (not perfect but stupidly great). i remember playing this when i was a kid and the carnotauruses' roar were terrifying and you can imagine the horror of meeting the actual boss of the game which is the t rex.

@peachflavored 5 жыл бұрын

I have this one on my PS2 wishlist for years and after seeing this video I’m totally convinced I should play it asap!

@ChocolatierRob 5 жыл бұрын

Huh, didn't know this game existed... Is that Paula from DC2? It is? Good grief.

@fuzzydunlop7928 5 жыл бұрын

This is the creme of the crop of pre-mocap jankanimation.

@SummonerDagger88 5 жыл бұрын

Even with that ridiculous plot, this game still seems better than Dino Crisis 3 lol. I love your restrospective videos, I'd really love seeing a Silent Hill one and maybe a Fatal Frame retrospective too.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Glad you like em! I will definitely cover the SH series. Easily one of my favorite franchises of all time. As for Fatal Frame, I'm not as interested in those games, but to be honest, I only ever played the first one, and not for that long. I do want to revisit the series, so there's a good chance that they might end up on the list of series I want to cover.

@SummonerDagger88 5 жыл бұрын

@@AvalancheReviews Nice! I am super hyped about what you have to say about the Silent Hill series :D I think the first Fatal Frame is one of the weakest entries in the series (especially with its poor, but hilarious voice acting lol), but Fatal Frame 2 and 3 are pretty good, I am not too fond of Nintendo's Fatal Frame games though lol.

@callmejoe8594 5 жыл бұрын

10:55 I wish I had a friend like that... wait, _I'm_ that friend!

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Be proud of that!

@Quick-Silver206 5 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to hear you talk about the third one.

@andrewstencel 5 жыл бұрын

great video! great channel! keep up, man!

@SirArtanis7 5 жыл бұрын

I remember really wanting to play this one when I was younger. If I had that explanation from the intro that the game gave I might have actually understood what was going on at the end of 2!

@yhormthejollygiant4327 5 жыл бұрын

God this was such a fun game. I replayed this countless times as a child alongside Dino Crisis 2.

@igodreamer7096 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, looks like a fun experience, and that is it, experience. If only CAPCOM take some time to, put some heart in this project. When your game start to behave like a chameleon, you know it have some problems.

@thefantasyhero 5 жыл бұрын

underrated channel

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!!!

@sancer1781 4 жыл бұрын

I played this as a kid and I loved it, but for a long time thought it was some kind of fever dream. Thanks for assuring me I'm not crazy.

@notasilentfilm4669 5 жыл бұрын

I never completed Dino Stalker but after watching your video I want to at least try it for want last time. Nice vid.

@mattlandry 5 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. Loving the jokes

@danielthomas7193 5 жыл бұрын

Dude, that sucks about the copyright strike. Honestly when I get out of near poverty, I'm more than willing to do your Patreon. Until then though, I hope you get some money from my frequent rewatches and I recommend your videos to my fellow nerds as well! 😁

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated man. I know what it's like to struggle with money. Even if you're never able to contribute to the patreon, I'll always appreciate you guys watching my videos and telling me what you think.

@justinorprecio3094 5 жыл бұрын

Heeeeeey welcome back! Cheers and more power Justin from the Philippines

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Cheers man!!! Thanks for the love!

@Milkiy-Hazard 5 жыл бұрын

The Gun Survivor 2 and 3 was heavily funded by Namco, most people who made them were people from Namco, and the reasoning why is because they wanted PS2 games that used the Gun Con 2 on the PS2.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

That makes a lot of sense.

@Safersephiroth777 5 жыл бұрын

Time Travel and Dinosaurs. Makes sense.

@dubyaw9511 5 жыл бұрын

does mouse and keyboard work like they did in RE: dead aim?

@RAY4everYANY 5 жыл бұрын

Very well done, i played this game when it came out. I was disappointed at first as I was expecting an action shooter game, but I did enjoy it for what it was.

@sadtoast6122 4 жыл бұрын

I had no idea this game existed! I thought there was only 3 Dino crisis games

@brianboniuk1072 5 жыл бұрын

Back at it once again, nice work Jared! I feel the same with this as the Dead Aim spinoff in RE, just a serviceable light gun shooter with a cheap plot and janky controls (no surprise, both belong to the Gun Survivor series) though I beat both with relative ease (does this support mouse?) Anyways, now it's time to cover the unholy grail, the franchise killer, also known as Dino Crisis 3, can't wait to see how that goes for ya.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

That's the first thing i thought to check, and no sadly no mouse support. At least not on the Japanese release. Yeah, I'm writing the script for the 3rd game right now. I think this is going to be a good one.

@aliciafraser1835 5 жыл бұрын

So it's not out yet, but there's going to be a patreon going up for a light gun that works near flawlessly on lcd tv's, working prototype and all. Think you'll ever go back with something like that and give these games a try again, should that whole project succeed?

@jtalkalot19 5 жыл бұрын

Plot wise, I need a drink. No completely terrible but i need a drink. Gameplay wise, it looks like a fun play after fiddling with the controls a bit....

@jdgustofwinddance.7748 3 жыл бұрын

4:10 Spoilers? Oh, no. Not for games two decades old. The horror.

@TheDoctorProfessor 5 жыл бұрын

Ou boy we're going to space next! Also, this game remeinds me of the Lost World Jurassic Park arcade game, which I loved as a kid.

@Mythoriir 5 жыл бұрын

Dread. It’s dread you are feeling.

@samsniper2000 5 жыл бұрын

nice job man, keep them coming!

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@lonewolffang 5 жыл бұрын

As convoluted and crazy as the dino crisis storyline is, it's less than confusing as resident evil 6's story. The story was everywhere and they didn't even bother attempting to explain why Wesker was in Edonia. Dino Crisis just went "fuck it just use time manipulation" and it kinda makes sense for Dono Crisis 3 now.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

I found that just sitting back and not thinking about it, was the best way to enjoy both 6 and Dino Stalker's stories.

@lonewolffang 5 жыл бұрын

@@AvalancheReviews yeah true It would be funny if Wesker had beer goggles though and you find out this is why he hated Chris is because he was supposed to be his wingman that night.🤣 Imagine the scenario: Wesker wakes up next to Jake's mother: Ahhh! Chris! Why didn't you stop me?!? She said she might be pregnant!! Chris: I was drunk too. I didn't see you leave out. Plus, you told me if you pick up a "foxy lady", not to stop you. Hell, what does she look like? (Wesker shows him a picture) Chris: Damn! Wesker: I know. Chris:Look. Let's just leave Edonia and hopefully nothing happens. Wesker: Fine. (They leave Edonia, Wesker gets phone call 5 months later) Wesker: Chris!!!!! (Now to resident evil 5) Jill tells Chris: You know he's still pissed about Edonia. Chris: FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!

@MattsGeekCorner 5 жыл бұрын

Man those claims are no joke. I got hit with three over music in a game. So I've decided to halt my let's plays for a bit and just get some good reviews out there.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they'll get you if they can.

@lurkingC 5 жыл бұрын

I actually had no idea that this was a Dino Crisis based game. I still have the game and I thought it was really fun at the time. The best way to play was the coop mode where one player controlled the movement with a controller and another player used the gun-con to shoot. Me and a few friends really liked playing that way.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Damn, I imagine that was way more fun than how I played it.

@The1RealDarek 5 жыл бұрын

Was that Steve's voice? You know, from Code Veronica?

@12ealDealOfficial 5 жыл бұрын

I KEEEYYINT ... believe that if it's true!

@Wyllie38 5 жыл бұрын

Sometimes trying to make sense of a plot makes that plot ... not make sense. It does hit that “so bad it’s good” a lot of the time for the laughs if nothing else.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

This is 100% true. You just gotta take it as it goes.

@4RS33N 5 жыл бұрын

Keep up the good wordk..i really like these dino crisis retrospectieve..made my think back of my childhood..dino crisis 1 was the first game i ever had and finished on the PS1 back in thé day....and good luck with dino crisis 3...it was the best of the series 😂

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Yeah.........I'm playing 3 now and.....it's interesting that's for sure.

@ninjazubat2121 4 жыл бұрын

I would guess the reason this was made is because a lot of people would buy it thinking they are getting the Dino Crisis on a next gen console.

@tonybamanabonitomatopowers6057 5 жыл бұрын

What music did you use for the intro at 2:43? I haven't played a Dino Crisis game yet so I don't know if you used music from the game.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

It's from Dino Crisis 2's intro.

@tonybamanabonitomatopowers6057 5 жыл бұрын

@@AvalancheReviews Thanks a ton

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

No problem!

@ScotterationRetard 5 жыл бұрын

So what's next after DC? It's not exactly the longest franchise on earth. Clock Tower? Fatal Frame?

@Fedor_Kisliakov 5 жыл бұрын

Silent Hill, I hope)

@aalidas8951 4 жыл бұрын

i loved this game when i was a kid and was one of the first games i finished.

@patrickswayyze 5 жыл бұрын

What game is that at the begining, its first person and has leon in it?

@solid_fire9388 5 жыл бұрын

what a strange game it was, i enjoyed it back in the game but not satisfied with what happened to dino crisis... great review man keep it coming :) i never had an x box so im looking forward for DC 3 review !

@Muffinpurplegurk 5 жыл бұрын

I honestly had no idea this was related to the Dino Crisis series until a few years ago

@RaceToNowhere 5 жыл бұрын

I had no idea this game even existed

@FlameStormer2000V2 5 жыл бұрын

Oh man. What game is that in the intro at 1:05? I remember playing the demo of it on the orginial Playstation but can't recall the name.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Brave Fencer Musashi

@owenkendall6963 4 жыл бұрын

You forgot to talk about how excited the game was overall i.e the different environments for missions, the mystery

@jordiix 5 жыл бұрын

Another awesome video keep up the good work 😊🇬🇧

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jordiix 5 жыл бұрын

@@AvalancheReviews your welcome

@Sebastian_Athea 5 жыл бұрын

FYI OSSC can output raw 480i, and most modern tvs will perform some sort of field combination deinterlacing which looks very similar to XRGB mini, with added benefit of OSSC superior analog to digital conversion.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

This is true, but then you miss out on the sharp upscaling both units can provide. I have thought about using the ossc for spitting out a clean digital image to the framemeister, so I don't have to worry about the noise it can introduce, but that seems pretty expensive just to use it as a analog to digital converter.

@Sebastian_Athea 5 жыл бұрын

@@AvalancheReviews True, true, I wish that someone made digital only budget upscaler to pair with OSSC. If I had to choose one I would go with OSSC though, because unlike framemeister it doesn't introduce any posterization and noise that ruin the image on emissive displays like PDP and OLED.

@cooltrainervaultboy-39 4 жыл бұрын

Quick question: can this game be played with a mouse like Dead Aim?

@StarLord66X 5 жыл бұрын

I seen this at a local retro game store for thirteen dollars and held it in my hands wondering if I should get it. I got resident evil 2 remake instead but I wanna go back and see if it's still there

@Maesterful 5 жыл бұрын

If you don't mind puzzles and survival then the first is fantastic, if you prefer action and constant shooting which is much easier then go for it instead. Or both! But stay away from DC3! 🤮

@hardmodefbl 5 жыл бұрын

Damnation and Vendetta

@thermonuclearcollider4418 5 жыл бұрын

I didn't even know that Dino Stalker's plot was tied with "Dino Crisis 2". I steered clear of it back in the day as I was never a fan of the Gun Survivor spin-offs - even though I only tried the original once (I wasn't impressed), I did spend a few pounds on GS 2 in an arcade in London back in 2002 (not very fun) and I never played "Dead Aim", which might be a cardinal sin for a self-proclaimed die-hard Resident Evil fan.

@Dead-Pool3_II_Sij6 5 жыл бұрын

sorry if someone else asked this, but didn't you try the mouse option for this game or did you forget to check that(as we've learned on the other PS2 shooters)?

@TheY2JMc 5 жыл бұрын

Wow! never knew Ray Liotta did youtube videos now, excellent!

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

Do I sound like Ray Liotta???

@TheY2JMc 5 жыл бұрын

@@AvalancheReviews I think you could do a very good Ray Liotta Goodfellas impression anyway, you have a very similar basey sound to your voice, this is your first video i watched and i picked up on it straight away! anyway great vid, i went back and watched the other 2 Dino Crisis videos right after, keep up the good work.

@MusouTensei82 5 жыл бұрын

I knew this game exists but I had no idea it's actually part of the Dino Crisis deries, lol.

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised. They didn't do a lot to advertise it as part of the series.

@conanthelibrarian5139 2 жыл бұрын

This is the closest we will likely ever get to a true Dino Crisis 3.... story wise... yea....

@ILikeIcedCoffee 5 жыл бұрын

Didn't even know this one existed.

@Steadysphere 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like an interesting game at least, though not on the level of the 1st two games. Great coverage despite you not having much background info to work with haha. Onto Dino Crisis 3! Yay....?

@colinswinbourn117 5 жыл бұрын

Yay it's ring of red!......oh wait I was wrong. But soon I won't be

@12ealDealOfficial 5 жыл бұрын

Dino Stalker: My Daughter is Also My Daughter's Mom ... Lol that was in poor taste. What kind of freak would look at those characters like that in a time travel scenario... ...

@AvalancheReviews 5 жыл бұрын

That sums it up perfectly!

@rickshawjones8591 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to support your channel besides patreon?

@Hayatehiroyuki25 5 жыл бұрын

Never knew this game was made, sounds like a fun time even if its not super great game

@QMMarc 5 жыл бұрын

I'm one of those friends sadly, if someone pulled up a Dino Stalker copy i'd be all like ''yooo''. But yeah, playing it with a light gun is a blast actually, no clue why some people said that controller is preferable? Like, what? As someone that played it both ways, one on my ps2 as a teen with a borrowed light gun and the other with an emulator during my own marathon of dino crisis, it's super more fun with the gun, but the controller is fine, you get used to it. Also Steve 2.0 is still steve, so he bad, Paula is still cute tho', cuter in the art, her hair looks off here for some reason, granted, ps2 didnt like hairs too much.