I expected another results, but you are right :-)

The only real effect from the orientation would be the signal lobes. Horizontal will be more directional - perpendicular to the direction of the elements. Vertical will be more omnidirectional.

We have a really wonderful community, and I am on of them. 🤩

It would be a very interesting comparison, I also have a DX Commander ;-)

Any radials are better then no radials, something I have not tried with a dipole myself, but i orobabky will now you mentioned it. I have 10 x 7m radials on a board but 3/4 is suffice if any at all, I also have a 40+m a long counterpoise, not that it's needed I just like to experiment with antennas I have created myself, and I am far from a Tech or Ham Expert, more The Experimental Ham Guy. 73's Ed

verticals could work better in the cities...maybe...

@@YLRaisa I am over 300ft ASL so that may help factors,have a subscribe anyway.👍

next video comes soon ;-) 73! Raisa

☺ We are all one of a kind 😉

@@YLRaisa what was that at the start ?! You meant to say Hi ?!

@@digitalmediafan I told - Here goes! :)

Thanks for watching and commenting

I have no experiences with delta's yet, but I will do it in the future.. TNX, Raisa

😅 Tnx for the good report 😉

Thanks 👍 Try it :)

@@YLRaisa I will! I’m working on a 30m delta loop right now.

I have much footage but few time to edit and create - this is the reason ;-)

@@YLRaisa I know, I am the same!

Please share your results with me here, very interesting!

Thanks for watching 👀

☺ TNX

Tnx 😀

Hi Simon, please tell me your results ;-) Raisa

@@YLRaisa I will do that. 😊

При низком диполе радиоволны в большей мере поглощаются землёй,но это всё зависит от состава почвы и её влажности.Поэтому,иногда,вертикальный штырь бывает во много раз эффективнее - всё зависит от состава почвы,её влажности и что в данное время происходит в ионосфере,а также различных препятствий радиоволн.Поэтому всегда всё относительно.

Hi Stefan, I tried to install the feed points of both dipoles on the same height :-) 73, Raisa

Yes, I agree. But as you can see in natural conditions, when there is no interference nearby, there is no noise on both antennas. It doesn't matter how they are hung.

experimenting / portable is one of amazing aspects out hobby! 73! Raisa

Да, мы тут делали эксперименты на УКВ и там поляризация антенны сильно влияла, тебя вспоминали ;-)

I wish you to get the licence! We need more people especially like make experiments 😉 Please let me know when you get the call sign 😃

@@YLRaisa OK, I am KN4vvY, General in South Carolina, USA. 73 Raisa ! Great video, Thank you.

@@YLRaisa Hello Raisa, i hope to get my licence one day... but it is not the easiest stuff to learn...

Hi Bruce! in better times I hope you will be able to visit Russia..73! Raisa

THANK YOU YL Raisa! I appreciate it. I really do, but I can't foresee when I will have a chance to get away from home in the near future. But, of course, we never know what the more distant future holds do we? 😊. I have heard stories from people that have been there but I would to see your Beautiful Country with my own two eyes! 😊. Rest Assured I would jump on a plane heading to Russia as quick as I could "if I could." ~73, Bruce~

На обе, потому что я почти в каждом QSO проверяла силу сигнал. :)

Thanks 😊

Yes, I have been waiting for better conditions on 10 m long time and it is still bad... see you on the Air! Raisa

Да, было бы интересно посмотреть, как это работает при DX прохождении.

Thanks Phillip :)

I only used sky wave, with groundwave the result could be different, thanks for your idea ;-) 73, Raisa

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Спасибо. Буду знать :). Из практики познаю и запоминаю больше :)

yes, lake and forest are better than cities ;-) but in the lake it is still just fresh water 73! Raisa

Thanks for watching!

I also expected to have better result with vertical :-)

Hi Marcelo ! You know I like ELKs, and they often appear in my videos, but this time I took my small parrot with me ;-) Raisa

@@YLRaisa 😁🦜

TNX for your comment. I did not intend to make a very exact experiment, I understand what you mean ;-) 73, Raisa

Thanks. My BIG congratulation on your Extra !!! Good job!!! Hope to meet you on the air 😉

@@YLRaisa Thank you so much, it was a lot of work with top honor score. Hope to meet you on the air too😎

Thank you for appreciating the mind, not just the beauty of the body :)

Современные способы нанесения лака, позволяют об этом не думать :))) Не испортила.

@@YLRaisa Воот ! Скажу нашим конторским, чтобы тоже такой же лак использовали. С ним смогут откручивать шурупы ногтями. А то всё жалуются, что не получается открутить, маникюр слабый...

@@ES1LL это появление женственности 😉. Ведь приятно, когда мужчины помогают 😀.

@@YLRaisa Ещё бы ! Мужчины всегда готовы постоять за себя и полежать за других :)

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z6-Hm8uf2J3bYp8.html Just watch this one 😉

@@YLRaisa oh yes I remember this episode 💓💓💓💓💓💓💓

Это мачта DX Commander, не уверена, что получится её сейчас получить в России... Но наверное есть аналоги из Китая. Удачи! Раиса

I did know that the polarization changes after hops... Thanks! Raisa

I am not aware of this. I just heard about beacon snr..Tnx for advice, Raisa

On one of the forums I found a good answer for you, which gave Kevin Reid AG6YO "For VHF, choice of polarization is not up to your desired radiation pattern, but who you want to be able to communicate with. In HF, the ionosphere causes random rotation of your signal's polarization, but in all line-of-sight communication, VHF or higher, there is no such rotation and a polarization mismatch can result in no signal at all. You should use vertical polarization if you wish to communicate with existing FM mobile and repeater stations, because they also use vertically polarized antennas (by convention, and because quarter-wave verticals are much more convenient than other types of antennas on vehicles and handhelds). On the other hand, you should use horizontal polarization if you are attempting 2 meter SSB or other types of DX/weak-signal work. Again by convention, but the convention arises because (if I understand correctly) horizontal dipoles typically have more gain, and because a horizontal dipole is a simple, efficient freestanding antenna. If you wish to be able to communicate with both types of stations using a single antenna, you can use a diagonally or circularly polarized antenna, as a compromise which has a reliable small amount of loss in either case. However, such antennas are more directional than a vertical (at least as much as a horizontal dipole) and thus require pointing." Thanks Kevin! de R1BIG

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@@YLRaisa Thanks. learnt something new today :)

@@stighenningjohansen you are welcome 😊

Yes, you are right! :)

It is very pity I couldn't test both of antennas with you 🤗

here my video about a dream ;-) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZ5nndx1v73Xlmg.html

спасибо за развёрнутый комментарий. Конечно, волновой канал всегда выиграет, за счёт усиление (точнее "сосредоточения") энергии в определенном угле. 73! Раиса

Hi Ron, I did not understand your question (?)

I live beside the coast, I find signals (DX) much more enhanced over the sea. I work Australia with only 10W ssb and a loaded 1.4m whip antenna. I wondered if it would be same for you, but over lake water,.. 73 de G4FBC

Владимир, не обещаю. В лесу уже много комаров развелось. А такой тест требует длительной технической подготовки. Но в ближайшее время продолжу некоторые другие необычные эксперименты с антеннами на природе ;-)

@@YLRaisa Спасибо за ответ. Да, согласен про подготовку, но все настройки ноутбука+трансивера можно, и даже нужно и удобнее, провести в стационарных условиях, на примере наличных антенн. В крайнем случае можно при настройке делать анализ одной и той же антенны, но на разных диапазонах. А за тем по отлаженному алгоритму повторить в полевых условиях, сами замеры займут несколько минут. Да комары умеют доставлять неудобства... Но даже и для одной антенны результат WSPR теста могут быть интересны и полезны.

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Only DX Commander's pole was touched.

This is DX Commander mast ! see you! Raisa

@@YLRaisa o valor dela fica longe da minha realidade. Recomenda outra ?

Олег, ты, конечно, прав. Наша переключалка (made by RA1AMO) тоже вносит свою лепту. А вот у меня есть старый Кенвуд, там два гнезда антенных, можно сразу 2 антенны вставить в него. Так будет более чистый эксперимент или это тоже самое?

@@YLRaisa я думаю так будет более честно. Можно посмотреть какая там изоляция между входами. Подключить сигнал к 1 входу, а слушать на 2. А вообще как тут уже писали на КВ поляризация не так сильно влияет. Где-то слышал что в пределах 3дб всего, это полбалла по S-метру.

an inv V would work maybe with the same result like vertical...

@@YLRaisa compared the same stations on my vertical , some signals are better on inverted V , but others not so good. When you were in the cave , you were stronger on the vertical than inverted V 🤔

horizontal is much easier to build almost everwhere :-) see you on the Air!

Yes but I think you need a phasing line to achieve circular polarization. 73 de IZ3GOA Sergio.

nice idea, TNX, I will try to try it

@@sergioborghesan6318 No you can use 2 antennas, one in each ear and hear it. Phasing is a completely different type of diversity. Phasing requires processing in a device to phase the signals and diff them. My Apache Labs Anan has phasing where as the Flexradio I have will do the fading as long as I have both a horizontal and vertical antenna tied in. Also realize I am not talking about transmitting. This is receiving.

Ok, now is clear Don! It would be very interesting to compare at the same time two audio from two receivers. Thank you! My best 73. IZ3GOA Sergio.

@@sergioborghesan6318 Yes, that would be interesting.

I think it depends on many aspects, for instance if you are in the city or nature is your shack. But no big difference ;-)

@@YLRaisa ok I’m on holiday in Tennessee by a lake I guess my question is a sloper vrs a horizontal or vertical lol getting ready to setup station soon

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recover...??Alessandro, what do you mean? it was no big problem with the cable at 5 meter feed point. There are many trees there ;-)

maybe easier to build? 73! Raisa

Exactly Raisa. Horizontal elements do not interact with any support pole. A vertically polarized yagi with long elements would be near impossible to support without interaction with the support mast unless it was non metallic.