I'll be 100% honest man, ur approach to new people comes off more interrogatory than enthusiast. Love the videos just my perspective

I love comparison videos like this. especially because you have different levels of generally the same truck to compare.

The dirt king truck needs to have the shocks tuned… I’m not sure about DK front kit but the rear with a set of deavers should ride much better. Dirt King is a legit company. Solid people working and designing their kits.

Bro, your drone footage is radical. Great job on that. I haven’t wanted to upgrade anything in my 1st gen Raptor except the newer 3.0 Fox shocks set. But you are getting me into this upgrade stuff. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼

Awesome video. Looking forward to you testing other builds and kits as time goes on!

Promocode is Active: Just to clear the air. The owner of the Dirt king kit didn’t think this was long travel. The kits designed to let it be close to or slightly better then a stock Raptor. The Svc kit is well know at least on this channel and Ken block lol so it can hang and my honest opinion is keep it dirty could prob go harder on big whoops so come out with me for a day in Barstow or a ocotillo wells, during the week. The blits truck was super sick and they build sick trucks. And we all had a blast out there that day. We made this run happen to stop the hate or bs and let the trucks do the talking. I own literally nothing from dirty king but they build legit as trucks that eat Plater city, Barstow for breakfast lunch and dinner. Watch the last terra crew video lol Is this kit the best? Idk but it’s set up nice for a budget friendly build does more then most people need or will give more then most will push it too. A fully built svc prerunner isn’t what they sell lol they sell nice ass raptors with mild long travel. Also Keep it dirty is more handsome in person

I already wanna hear you thoughts on it!! Can’t wait for the next episode

Great comparison video , can’t wait for the verdict on the dirt king . I’ve got my Evil mfg midtravel +2 kit right here sitting in my garage and I can’t wait to install it and test it out .

Would be pretty cool if you made a video talking about what mid or long travel kits you would recommend. I see a lot of people looking for more info and personal feedback on the kits people run but not much out there great video can’t wait for your opinion on it

Waiting for the next video!

I got fox 3.0 going on my Gen 1front and rear and Foust bump stop kit in the rear going in, in December. My xmas gift for the the raptor run next march in Baja with Texas Raptor runs. Cant wait to feel the difference.

Been following the channel for a long time now, the dk kit should definitely not be called LT. as you stated in an older video “it’s only considered LT if you go into the shock towers” which was super helpful info when I was buying my kit. I heard BMS makes great kits but evil really won my money with their unique products I had already purchased in the past. From what I learned off your channel I ordered the evil +2 kit which is midtravel, to keep the overall width down on my raptor, but asked them to make new shock towers for 10” shocks with 4wd or 12” shocks in 2wd. Waiting on them to ship out here and I’ll definitely be posting up how everything performs. Waiting on the follow up videos too!

So what you’re telling me is I can buy a used stock 2019+ Raptor for around $70k… or buy a used 2019+ F150 for around $35k and spend $15k building it how I like to have it perform the same… I’ll take the Dirt King build thank you very much. It needs some shock tuning that’s for sure but the truck performed pretty well considering it’s a 6” stroke shock up front. Rear absolutely needs to be tuned.

I have essentially the same Dirt King setup, but on my 2011 F150 and I've beat on it hard for 6 years now. For a while I ran it with just the OEM replacement 2.5, and it was a huge improvement over a stock F150, but the short little 2.5's became burning hot when the kit is used as intended. Soonafter I added 2.5 and later 3.0 bypasses to help handle the bigger stuff and that was another big improvement but I still would bottom hard on some bigger hits, so I had Doug at EM add 2.0 bumps and strike pads on the lowers. By this point, I realized I was trying desperately to make this kit something it isn't, and I had spent enough to buy an SVC or Blitzkrieg kit, which I would regret not doing except that the DK is the only kit narrow enough to park in my tiny-ass garage. Also, here's the real poop: once properly bumped and strapped, it gets only 10.5" of travel! That's only 2 inches more than a stock F150. When I bought the kit, DK advertised 13.5" on their website which kinda sucked for me. Now they say 12" with 2WD and no spec on 4WD, probably for this reason. Also, on full bump it rubs the firewall and those beams that support the radiator, so no more up-travel to be had. Anyways, if you wanna talk about my experience with the kit, HMU. I've had an absolutely awesome time pounding the DK kit for the last few years, but TBH I wouldn't recommend.

Lol the tone of the conversation says it all

dear. How’s everything going?. enjoyed- awesome edition! 🔥

Looks like I have a new goal!! LT that retains the stock bucket, my prayers have been answered… I’ll have to get smaller shocks tho 😅

I would like to get one of those scarf..scarf!

Great video. I honestly think the stock raptor performance was similar to the LT kit raptor per the comparison on this video. I’m new to this off road world. I’ve owned my truck for about 3 years. 08 Silverado, and I went with a a Mazzula kit because it was affordable, bolt on and didn’t have to purchased the shock towers(DK you do plus 3.0 shocks right off the bat, those being fox or kings) because I’m not there yet (his kit is also describe as an LT kit about 12 inches of travel) the display of the upper control arm is a nice billet accompanied by a longer LCA. I haven’t taken it out to the desert to see how it handles. It’s sitting on some old 2.5 king shocks not tuned. I’m not impressed with how it rides at the moment because I haven’t decided wether I want to re valve them or go to the 3.0. What are you thoughts on it? The rear of my suspension is stock expect for 2.5 piggyback reservoirs but those also haven’t been touched in years. All in all, what do you think about Mazzula LT? I wanted to keep my 4x4…

I'd really like to see your second video and I'd really like to see that truck with some shock tuning. from what I've seen DK is the most reasonably priced mid travel kit available for the f150. Its also nice for when poor people (me😂) want to make their lowly f150 a little better.

Im curious about the geometry of the Dk, with the stock bucket and 6" coils I'd bet the shock is not 90° from the lca at full bump, which no amount of tuning could correct. As for testing other kits, it's not a ford but I'd love to see if any yota guys rip the marlin crawler LT kit around.

Looks like the DK kit handled okay, proper shock tuning would have transformed it a lot. But it has potential for a more budget friendly build. I have a full LT for my 10’ Sierra from DK (not installed yet), I really love the race kit they offer but my goal was to retain my 4wd.

So, I watched it again. The DK truck did fine. Way better than stock Raptor. You guys to go out and do this run on both of your trucks without shock tuning is kind of silly. Neither is showcasing the product. Just who runs a little less crappy. Both are leaving a lot on the table. Anyways. Really just needs to have the shocks tuned. Especially the rear. ADS might have a specd kit for DK but the shocks still need to be tuned. MCmasterFabber does a lot of their shock tuning in Az. They might be out of the box better than the rest but definitely don’t come tuned to a specific persons truck like they should be after installed. They’d have to know weight of truck, weight of occupants. Other things.

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 ... on the drone pilots

Those drone shots where you follow behind the truck are badass!! 😍 whats the top speed of the drone?

If anyone in your circle runs the KHC link kit. I’d like your input and thoughts on it. It looks good and Dave builds great stuff. I like that it can run with the stock axle and gas tank. You are the hero to us Everyman Raptor guys!

Can you do a review of the Blitzkrieg set up

Awesome video I think we can all agree on one thing! Dirt king should drop the long travel and call it what it is. Mid travel..

I just love Dirt King because there the only company who have kits for the Rams 1500

Waiting for part 2

First impressions I’m not impressed with the DK truck’s performance. We’ve seen the Scraptor perform nearly as well. You’ve turned me in to an SDI fanboy but all I kept thinking was stock Raptor takeoffs and the E-Clik system would get you more for less 💰. That Blitzkrieg truck just DAMN! Looking forward to the deep dive on that rig.

I’ll be honest this is the first time I see a dirt king kit actually being tested. I see a ton of post and marketing of the products with nice pictures out in the dirt but very rare and far in between do you see the kits being filmed getting beat on.But then again that just my experience This LT kit doesn’t do enough to be called a LT kit. Slap on new shocks and add bypass hoop you would expect better absorption than depicted on the footage.Your definitely better off starting out with a raptor for about the same performance if not better in certain situations. It looked like it bottomed out way sooner than the raptor. Rear looks alright I mean you got bypass and leafs.But the front and rear don’t seem to be in the same page which could be tuning.When you calculate the price and cost idk interested to hear your thoughts. I would point out we are comparing a raptor to a f150 which won’t be apples to apples but then again DK doesn’t really offer a raptor only kit other than just control arms and add ons unlike SVC. Most kits they offer tend to be the same as this f150 kit with the shafts and control arms and hoops being the craziest it gets in terms of suspension geometry. 🤷‍♂️ wait to hear your thoughts.

That shock bucket should’ve came out and replaced with the hoop for sure and the rear leaf kit should’ve been the spring under kit. I love dirt king they make great stuff and great setup. The Nissan Titan kit I was looking at for my project truck had the option of leaving the stock shock bucket in but your travel was not as good. The shock was the almost the same as the oem performance king shock set, which are a good set but not long travel good. When you get the shock hoop setup you get the longer shock set and I believe it’s a progressive spring rate as well. The shock hoop was the much better option for the front end. It just sounds like he went with this setup he has because of cost maybe.

Its all in the shock tuning.

I have not seen anything about this and I think my friend is full of it but he saying you have to remove the anti sway bar to get the Raptor it’s full travel I never heard of this that’s why I’m asking you, but as I said I think he is full of it

from my perspective going aftermarket on a f150 to be stock width as a raptor is a waste of money. you look into any maker that says they're long travel f150 (front ucas, lca) they're all 3.5 inches then you go into the race length and is 4-5 inches longer. from that point for 5-8k in just arms is crazy. Run raptor arms lower and get some svc uppers and you'll be still I. same ball park and just run upgraded shocks. or if you're going to ball out might as well convert using a raptor mid travel/ long travel on a f150 which would then get you the race length arms. just my opinion

To be very honest, what we are seeing in the video is Shock and ByPass valving being too soft. Recently i visited the DK Shop and they make very good suspension parts and fabricated components.

The problem is this isn’t a long travel kit, it’s also not a mid travel kit. It’s an overly expensive raptor swap with a bypass up front. Some people that want stock width can go to this, but it’s definitely more cost effective to just get a RPG lower and front bypass mount and get the same performance. Needs tuning but that still won’t get it to a proper mid travel kit.

Looks like the shocks weren't set up properly for that weight. The front is diving too much and the rear rebound is too fast. I would like to see it again once the shocks are set up correctly

The dirt king truck doesn’t look like it’s much better on raptor with live valve, Dirt kings should not offer that kit and list as mid/long travel kit. Should be sold as upgraded raptor suspension or f150 conversion. Stock buckets wow… no no! Anyway! Great video, great comparison on few different mid travel that are on the market. Id love to see that evil manufacturing truck. Doug has been big help with my prerunner build for the past year! (Great company) Do a video and show off that truck.

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Uhhh. Those front limiting straps seem a bit short. Lol

Wish the speed of each vehicle would've been clocked. Hard to compare the suspension without that and also weight distribution.

Seems like he needs some shock tuning.

The dirt king kit honestly looks way too stiff, and keeping the stock buckets up front really limited his up travel

Honestly... looks like the DK truck did great. They truck owner could be a douche but that has nothing to do with the brand.

Don’t really know what we’re supposed to say. All the trucks are very different and the Dirt King truck is better than a stock Raptor and kind of comparable to yours. Yours is built differently though. Totally different shock package. Is it the driver or Dirt King and ADS we’re beefing with?

You guys should just race.

DK dude blocked me and a few others on instagram for no reason lol.

Dirt king is a fine company, but I think they dipped their toes into too many platforms. When it was just Chevys and Toyotas they were solid, or the odd 1500 Dodge trucks that are surprisingly a great platform, who knew. The Ford kit suffers from the OEM shock location of the regular F-150, Ford knew it was too short. That's why they were raised on the raptor, I just couldn't imagine keeping a 6-in stroke shock after going "long travel" dirt King makes shock towers I'm surprised they didn't cut the OE one off and run a 10" stroke like the other 3 fullsize platforms they build. The manufacturers that work with specific platforms will always have better products overall like SVC with the raptors. Thuren with HD Dodges and so on. But this dude kinda seems like a tool, probably made his money from Tech and is roughly my age.

no kit is good without good shock tuning....

Was not impressed with this long travel kit. Seemed there was a lot of rear-end bucking in the video. The truck was all over the place.

Looks like the stock raptor is great and saves tons of hassle. Sorry

DK is garbage. Just another fanboy front end. If you wanna throw away $thousands then buy a DK kit for sure.