I remember watching this live, the announcers we had were different, but I've seen this clip and it pisses me off that they tried to play it off

There’s important context here. “Targeting” is where you *lead* with your helmet. If there’s incidental helmet to helmet contact, that’s not targeting and as long as you lead with your shoulder you tackled correctly. Jayden lead with his shoulder and turned his helmet away but both didn’t need to make the tackle because the ballcarrier was already out of bounds, and did not get his helmet out of the way nearly early enough. So *technically* it was a shoulder tackle with incidental helmet contact. That’s why the announcer said it was shoulder. Jayden wasn’t targeting but he also wasn’t trying hard enough not to target.

His helmet did hit first though, I'm not saying I can't be wrong, but it certainly looks like his helmet makes contact before his shoulder.

@@omni_mtb3210 The only thing I ask is to try and understand how difficult a game this is. It’s a violent sport that requires the players to make a bunch of split second decisions. Especially while your job is on the line every time you’re on the field. There’s players out there like Jonathan Vilma and Bobbie McCray that were always trying to hurt their opponents best players, and then there’s DBs like Jayden that didn’t move their head out of the way in time. They’re not the same.

@SaintDamain I certainly do understand how grueling the game is. I understand everyone makes mistakes, games boil down to who makes the least mistakes. I understand accidents happen and that most players don't necessarily try to hurt others, but at the end of the day you do have to keep that in mind. In my opinion it was targeting whether he meant to or not. I wish I could've played this sport to get a better understanding.

I think it was Derek Mason, not 100% though

talking about the initial hit. If you threw targeting for every time helmets hit you wouldn't have enough players to play the game on any football team. The initial hit is shoulder which causes the helmet to jerk. Auburn is enough of a dirty team to warrant a list of their own against numerous teams.

I’m a Arkansas fan and he clearly hit the front of his helmet then hit his shoulder pad!! I’m embarrassed that 2 or 3 of these highlights on here are Arkansas players I’m stunned that they would hit people literally out of bounds totally uncalled for no wonder they can’t win games and have a 10 win season much less a 2 win season 😂

​@jeremykisling8176 man please stop dicc eating. Those were regular hits

I was just thinking about how announcers not being able to admit reality is a real problem for football.

It was clean but it was nasty too😅

Yeah, I don't understand why this one was included... unless the person who made the video is a Cal fan. Either way, there was nothing dirty about it.

A lot of the clips in these videos are just thrown in to increase the length of the video.

Agreed, not dirty at all, just a beautiful hit. The only reason the guy got hit so low is because he jumped. In fact several of the clips in here didn't seem dirty.

It wasn't a dirty hit at all!

Fr, returner left his feet before getting hit, that’s on him

If they wanted shock factor, could have replaced it with Junior Rosegreens hit on Reggie Brown which was just blatant head hunting and the only time I ever thought I just watched somebody die on live TV.

WHAT YOU JUMPIN FOR!!

@@deaconj3406dude I looked it up , that has to be the hardest tackle I’ve seen

Agreed

I said the same thing bro

Fr

Good point.

Imagine if that happened in 80s or 90s? 🤔

@@Ze_Moose bro, that's a literal death sentence.

It’s sad they’ll do it just to say they played a big hit on the play it shows no respect or integrity for the game of football

Well Marquel Wade was booted off the team for burglary.

Yeah they really have to think if they’re close enough to hit the player as they’re catching then they have 99% waved, even if they didn’t see it which I don’t buy either

The announcers got it right on the Marshall v Louisiana Lf hit later, your returner gets hit dirty like that and the guy who did it it popping off, he’d better get DQ’d or else he’s going to get his later.

hell yeah haha he be hittin too but he got full of himself and they humbled him

@@antoniobrown759 dam I'm mean he is built like bubble bass

He put it there himself. All the announcers and Penn State fans like to pretend he was just some poor innocent little kid getting picked on by the big bullies on the football field, but he had made a name for himself with his big, reckless hits (should have been penalized for the head-to-head hit against Michigan). The big boys who's job it is to actually hit things didn't want to get shown up by a kicker, so they made themselves known.

@@Ahhtisbutaaweeleprec I guess it's deserved then

Tebow??

​@@shawnchristianson324 No, he's just the same number as Tebow.

He should have just taken the knee. His team already won. All that running around just leaves him vulnerable to possible injury.

Yeah it has to be

thought the exact same thing lol

Yeah, he did, then increased the saturation to make it look older.

I came scanning the comments to see if anyone else noticed it. lol

That’s exactly what he did and then used the University of Kentucky “UK” logo. lol

No, it doesn’t work like that. Incidental head to head contact isn’t targeting, and nothing the defender did was targeting. You cannot defy the laws of physics, a body in motion will remain in motion until acted upon.

@@TheCrazyMoparDude68 Glad to read someone who has that understanding of Physics, You are correct in saying that, a few of these hits are avoidable, but sometimes the laws of motion, mass, cause these late hits, let alone if they step out of bounds one second before the defensive impact, or qb slides when they are already facemask to facemask,

ong thats what im sayin, dude photoshopped the logo in the helmet🤣

I knew that looked familiar!!

But like, who suplexes a guy? Why? It's like the dumbest way to tackle someone, with a decent chance of hurting yourself. And guaranteed to give a penalty. So dumb.

Yes, that is the exact definition for targeting. I also don’t think the Tennessee hit on Florida should be a penalty. Dude was running around instead of taking his knee

he talking too much

His whole thing was making dirty hits on his kicks and flopping when he got hit. A lot of people did not like Joey Julius.

@@MargielaGATI was hoping someone would explain it

@@MargielaGAT thank god someone else gets it, Julius was acting like a badass when he was tackling guys and then acting like he was a victim when he got his ass lit up

I am saying bro got beef with everyone on the field 😂

2 days in a row thanks!

nah that’s kentucky’s helmet

Agreed. Some of those calls seemed like penalizing after forward momentum has reached a point of no return.

Exactly, QBs get special treatment in college and pro football. The slide rule should be taken away and QBs treated like the other players on the field.

9 times out of 10, though, the quarterback isn't going to want to absorb a hit like that, so they're often going to slide...and most of the time, there are indicators of such a maneuver (tighter tuck, looking towards the ground, a turn to reduce speed, etc.). Have there been QBs that were built to take hits? Definitely...but many of them want to keep themselves healthy and uninjured to protect their position, so a lot of them are quite hesitant to collide with a defender at speed (two players running at each other creates more force than a single player hitting an unmoving target (as usually happens in a sack situation)).

When the QB runs around and then suddenly decides to kneel down, it is hard for defenders to stop their motion. They need to take away the kneeling rule and the sliding rule.

if the intention of going out of bounds is clear, you don't hit him

@@4id4nl4y wrong....if you are in bounds...you are fair game. This was a clean hit.

@@4id4nl4y intention? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. His intention was to also throw a TD, should we also give him that

Ruins the game.

If I remember correctly, the refs still awarded Maegle the touchdown, even though Lewis laid him out prior to the end zone.

War Eagle

Nothing dirty about it

its a colts player

But only after shoulder to shoulder contact. Watch it at .25 speed and you can clearly see that the runners shoulder moves back from contact before there is head to head contact.

@@TheCrazyMoparDude68 the crown of the helmet cant make contact with the opposing players helmet... doesnt matter the circumstance, if that happens it's targeting.

Yes, but it isn’t an illegal play. If to big guys are running towards each other and make contact shoulder to shoulder first, there is a good chance that they could also have head to head contact after the initial contact. What are defenders supposed to do, just let the runner go and not tackle them? Playing football is a dangerous sport and if you are willing to take the risk, then don’t play.

The play was blown dead. And no one was really moving except the player making the hit. Thats the definition of dirty.

Man, I would be scared shitless if I was a receiver playing against Jack Tatum 😂.

I agree, it looked clean from every angle. Defender led with shoulder and couldn't help the WR lowered his head

marvin?